Re: Re: beck, tens, dc, clarke

[Guest guest]

bg,

Have you seen test/case studies of the Magna Pulsing being able to

move embedded germs/pathogens out & into the Blood stream?

Thanks,

M~R

On 6/8/2011 11:09 AM, baby_grand wrote:

I think so too. I have contact with medical people and it

is generally agreed that while the blood can contain

things, and it could be useful to clean it, the blood,

except in cases of septicemia or malaria, etc, is

typically considered sterile. Using directly on the area

of the germ location assures the current passes through

the germ. in the lab tests of dc vs virus, the current was

applied to the solution in which the virus was living, not

the table underneath the dish. the microbe has to be part

of the circuit and the closer to the path the better. I

would stop short of a rectal electrode for prostate, since

the area is delicate, however the principle is right. I

did not really think about all this when first got

involved, figured ok, electrify the blood. It does go

everywhere, as Beck said. But when it goes there, it does

not retain the charge it got from the electrodes, instead

it returns to normal, or neutral charge. And it does NOT

go everywhere. It avoids the sinuses for one, and most

mucosa, places where lots of germs live. Medically this is

just common knowledge. This is like saying a road goes to

Middletown, but you have to be on the road to get there.

Stupidly simple.

bG

>

> BG,

>

> I think the Beck device is limited a lot by the way

it's normally used - on one wrist. This limits it to only

affecting germs in the blood. It cannot affect germs

resident elsewhere in the body. For instance, it was

totally useless on my prostatitus until I started using it

between both feet. This got some of the current to where

it was needed and slowly resolved the problem. Likewise it

won't get to flu or cold germs in the sinuses, unless the

electrodes are actually placed in that area.

>

> The germkiller group is all about getting the current

to where it's actually needed for specific problems, so is

not limited to blood born germs.

>

> Bernie

>

> ---- Original Message -----

> From: baby_grand

>

> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:07 AM

> Subject: beck, tens, dc,

clarke

>

>

>

> beck -- generally good on germs, not always.

supplemented with dc device together may lower viral

loads, but by itself almost certainly will not. it pulses

and annoys user who turns it down or is unbearable. the

quick reversing current "undoes" some of the damaage to

germs, rendering a net charge zero condition for some of

the time of usage. however, works fine on malaria, and

other things, but virus in bloodstream probably needs dc.

>

> clarke--not too familiar with it, seems like a nerve

stimulus device, very low output, will ease pain along

path of current while used, afterwards pain returns. uses

dc switched on and off rapidly, so is similar to dc

anesthetic effects, maybe moreso. temporary pain relief,

maybe.

>

> dc--generally powerful, must be reversed every 5

minutes or so to avoid chemical buildups.

>

> tens---short intense burst of current. useless except

for physio-therapy. people have lots of these things and

think they will kill germs. none so far have.

>

> bG

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, bgMy wife is doing much better. Thank you for the info you provided me. Still working on the suit, it's tough not to get the body wet between the negative and the positive sponges. Do the sponges need to be soak or just wet enough not to drip?She has less headaches and can walk better then before. She still suffers from night sweats, not sure what to do with this. Don't know what causes night sweat to determine placement of the sponges. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 8, 2011, at 3:45 PM, "baby_grand" <b7494@...> wrote:

no. I have felt relief from carpal tunnel, and have seen others with aching nerves relieved, so I tend to think the pulser can move fluids out of tight spots. In HIV lymph nodes it may or may not move virus out of lymph. I think the virus infects the lymph node cells themselves, however, so cannot be removed.

bG

> > >

> > > BG,

> > >

> > > I think the Beck device is limited a lot by the way it's normally

> > used - on one wrist. This limits it to only affecting germs in the

> > blood. It cannot affect germs resident elsewhere in the body. For

> > instance, it was totally useless on my prostatitus until I started

> > using it between both feet. This got some of the current to where it

> > was needed and slowly resolved the problem. Likewise it won't get to

> > flu or cold germs in the sinuses, unless the electrodes are actually

> > placed in that area.

> > >

> > > The germkiller group is all about getting the current to where it's

> > actually needed for specific problems, so is not limited to blood born

> > germs.

> > >

> > > Bernie

> > >

> > > ---- Original Message -----

> > > From: baby_grand

> > >

> > <mailto:%40>

> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:07 AM

> > > Subject: beck, tens, dc, clarke

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > beck -- generally good on germs, not always. supplemented with dc

> > device together may lower viral loads, but by itself almost certainly

> > will not. it pulses and annoys user who turns it down or is

> > unbearable. the quick reversing current "undoes" some of the damaage

> > to germs, rendering a net charge zero condition for some of the time

> > of usage. however, works fine on malaria, and other things, but virus

> > in bloodstream probably needs dc.

> > >

> > > clarke--not too familiar with it, seems like a nerve stimulus

> > device, very low output, will ease pain along path of current while

> > used, afterwards pain returns. uses dc switched on and off rapidly, so

> > is similar to dc anesthetic effects, maybe moreso. temporary pain

> > relief, maybe.

> > >

> > > dc--generally powerful, must be reversed every 5 minutes or so to

> > avoid chemical buildups.

> > >

> > > tens---short intense burst of current. useless except for

> > physio-therapy. people have lots of these things and think they will

> > kill germs. none so far have.

> > >

> > > bG

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,One of the best Energy Pendants available is from http://www.supremechi.net/Check it out. Endorsed by the International Taekwon-do Federation.From: baby_grand <b7494@...> Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2011 1:09 AMSubject: Re: beck, tens, dc, clarke

I think so too. I have contact with medical people and it is generally agreed that while the blood can contain things, and it could be useful to clean it, the blood, except in cases of septicemia or malaria, etc, is typically considered sterile. Using directly on the area of the germ location assures the current passes through the germ. in the lab tests of dc vs virus, the current was applied to the solution in which the virus was living, not the table underneath the dish. the microbe has to be part of the circuit and the closer to the path the better. I would stop short of a rectal electrode for prostate, since the area is delicate, however the principle is right. I did not really think about all this when first got involved, figured ok, electrify the blood. It does go everywhere, as Beck said. But when it goes there, it does not retain the charge it got from the electrodes, instead it returns to normal, or neutral charge. And it does

NOT go everywhere. It avoids the sinuses for one, and most mucosa, places where lots of germs live. Medically this is just common knowledge. This is like saying a road goes to Middletown, but you have to be on the road to get there. Stupidly simple.

bG

>

> BG,

>

> I think the Beck device is limited a lot by the way it's normally used - on one wrist. This limits it to only affecting germs in the blood. It cannot affect germs resident elsewhere in the body. For instance, it was totally useless on my prostatitus until I started using it between both feet. This got some of the current to where it was needed and slowly resolved the problem. Likewise it won't get to flu or cold germs in the sinuses, unless the electrodes are actually placed in that area.

>

> The germkiller group is all about getting the current to where it's actually needed for specific problems, so is not limited to blood born germs.

>

> Bernie

>

> ---- Original Message -----

> From: baby_grand

>

> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:07 AM

> Subject: beck, tens, dc, clarke

>

>

>

> beck -- generally good on germs, not always. supplemented with dc device together may lower viral loads, but by itself almost certainly will not. it pulses and annoys user who turns it down or is unbearable. the quick reversing current "undoes" some of the damaage to germs, rendering a net charge zero condition for some of the time of usage. however, works fine on malaria, and other things, but virus in bloodstream probably needs dc.

>

> clarke--not too familiar with it, seems like a nerve stimulus device, very low output, will ease pain along path of current while used, afterwards pain returns. uses dc switched on and off rapidly, so is similar to dc anesthetic effects, maybe moreso. temporary pain relief, maybe.

>

> dc--generally powerful, must be reversed every 5 minutes or so to avoid chemical buildups.

>

> tens---short intense burst of current. useless except for physio-therapy. people have lots of these things and think they will kill germs. none so far have.

>

> bG

>

[Guest guest]

What brought you to that conclusion?From: Lee <dragonmikelee@...>" " < >Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 1:01 PMSubject: Re: Re: beck, tens, dc, clarke

Hi,One of the best Energy Pendants available is from http://www.supremechi.net/Check it out. Endorsed by the International Taekwon-do Federation.From: baby_grand <b7494@...> Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2011 1:09 AMSubject: Re: beck, tens, dc,

clarke

I think so too. I have contact with medical people and it is generally agreed that while the blood can contain things, and it could be useful to clean it, the blood, except in cases of septicemia or malaria, etc, is typically considered sterile. Using directly on the area of the germ location assures the current passes through the germ. in the lab tests of dc vs virus, the current was applied to the solution in which the virus was living, not the table underneath the dish. the microbe has to be part of the circuit and the closer to the path the better. I would stop short of a rectal electrode for prostate, since the area is delicate, however the principle is right. I did not really think about all this when first got involved, figured ok, electrify the blood. It does go everywhere, as Beck said. But when it goes there, it does not retain the charge it got from the electrodes, instead it returns to normal, or neutral charge. And it does

NOT go everywhere. It avoids the sinuses for one, and most mucosa, places where lots of germs live. Medically this is just common knowledge. This is like saying a road goes to Middletown, but you have to be on the road to get there. Stupidly simple.

bG

>

> BG,

>

> I think the Beck device is limited a lot by the way it's normally used - on one wrist. This limits it to only affecting germs in the blood. It cannot affect germs resident elsewhere in the body. For instance, it was totally useless on my prostatitus until I started using it between both feet. This got some of the current to where it was needed and slowly resolved the problem. Likewise it won't get to flu or cold germs in the sinuses, unless the electrodes are actually placed in that area.

>

> The germkiller group is all about getting the current to where it's actually needed for specific problems, so is not limited to blood born germs.

>

> Bernie

>

> ---- Original Message -----

> From: baby_grand

>

> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:07 AM

> Subject: beck, tens, dc, clarke

>

>

>

> beck -- generally good on germs, not always. supplemented with dc device together may lower viral loads, but by itself almost certainly will not. it pulses and annoys user who turns it down or is unbearable. the quick reversing current "undoes" some of the damaage to germs, rendering a net charge zero condition for some of the time of usage. however, works fine on malaria, and other things, but virus in bloodstream probably needs dc.

>

> clarke--not too familiar with it, seems like a nerve stimulus device, very low output, will ease pain along path of current while used, afterwards pain returns. uses dc switched on and off rapidly, so is similar to dc anesthetic effects, maybe moreso. temporary pain relief, maybe.

>

> dc--generally powerful, must be reversed every 5 minutes or so to avoid chemical buildups.

>

> tens---short intense burst of current. useless except for physio-therapy. people have lots of these things and think they will kill germs. none so far have.

>

> bG

>