Guest guest Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 I never stopped the vitamins at all. Id also add a glutathion precurser to the protocol. Last year aids confrence in vienna many doctors proved that using glutathion and stengthining the immune system helped patients get rid of hiv naturally. Glutathion does that.Be well.SaudSAUD H. ALFARHANOn Jul 15, 2011, at 0:39, "momlita55" <momlita55@...> wrote: Thanks so much to ALL of you, you are doing such a difference in our lifes. I have a question about the bob beck protocol. for AIDS patient that is in a cronic stage. can the pulser and the blood electrification be given two week then stop to supply vitamines and supplements for one week and then wait another two week and continue the treatments. do you think that will work or the protocol should be done with no stoping. thanks for helping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 with or without vitamins, if you do not take the meds the condition is likely to get worse, even though the person will feel great. try it with HIV meds instead of vitamins, would be your best bet. bG > > Thanks so much to ALL of you, you are doing such a difference in our lifes. > > I have a question about the bob beck protocol. > > for AIDS patient that is in a cronic stage. > can the pulser and the blood electrification be given two week then stop to supply vitamines and supplements for one week and then wait another two week and continue the treatments. do you think that will work or the protocol should be done with no stoping. > > thanks for helping > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 where is this research ? bG > > > Thanks so much to ALL of you, you are doing such a difference in our lifes. > > > > I have a question about the bob beck protocol. > > > > for AIDS patient that is in a cronic stage. > > can the pulser and the blood electrification be given two week then stop to supply vitamines and supplements for one week and then wait another two week and continue the treatments. do you think that will work or the protocol should be done with no stoping. > > > > thanks for helping > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Just took a very quick look. seems to me it might have promise, the injections method at least. So you could spend 2000 US, and get some stuff and inject it, and boom, gone? Maybe. He said 7 years later no signs of HIV (undetectable viral load?, this is not clear how he determines that) and Cd4 in normal range. How's he defining that? Average time from HIV infection to cd4 in sub-normal, aids-defining range is 10 years. So it is possible to have results like these without any real change in the virus infection underlying it. This is probably why Fauci, and the rest don't respond back. You'd have to demonstrate with western blot the subjects had HIV, then do various tests of viral prescence, especially gut biopsies to see if it is active in the key areas. Simple blood PCR will not tell you for sure if HIV is destroying the immune system. I think if he took a more disciplined approach in the study then maybe this would fly with authorities, as it is, I can see how they would simply say, well...we still have no idea from your study...if this works or not. Supplements to produce same effects? not sure if they can. Strengthen " the immune system " which part? It's like " strengthen New York " what neighborhood? Specifically macrophages? I had read they transport HIV to the Lymph system where HIV then infects everything. They do this even if not suppressed by HIV initial infection. Once the virus replicates, how will the macrophage know this particle is a virus? It has your own antigen coating derived from the cell it infected, how will the macrophage know it is not destroying a CD4 cell? All this is unclear to me, no opinion on it yet, so not closing any doors. But the study of 15 people lacks the finality it needs. And not sure why that is. bG > > > > > > > Thanks so much to ALL of you, you are doing such a difference in our lifes. > > > > > > > > I have a question about the bob beck protocol. > > > > > > > > for AIDS patient that is in a cronic stage. > > > > can the pulser and the blood electrification be given two week then stop to supply vitamines and supplements for one week and then wait another two week and continue the treatments. do you think that will work or the protocol should be done with no stoping. > > > > > > > > thanks for helping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 If a have a retrovirus and my white cell has been contaminated. Do you know anythings how can booster my inmunesystem WITHOUT replicating the virus.?? any help?. any research, studies?? thanks for reading my post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Hi, I would suggest looking into a product called Epicor is has very beneficial immune system properties. I take it. And my Medical Doctor recommended it also. RJ > > > If a have a retrovirus and my white cell has been contaminated. Do you know anythings how can booster my inmunesystem WITHOUT replicating the virus.?? > > > any help?. > any research, studies?? > > thanks for reading my post > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 , glutathione is the main immune booster. In HIV research, undenatured whey isolate increased white cell count and activity through glutathione increase. Scroll down in the references to the subject: <http://tinyurl.com/glutathione-references> Glutathione status is the single most reliable indicator of disease disease state and prognosis. Glutathione is maintained in every cell by precursors, and depleted glutathione stimulates infection of all types. Take undenatured whey and selenium as well to improve glutathione level. If you're on a medical program you might get glutathione IV injections as well. In their paper titled, " Thiol-disulfide system in oxidative stress and distress in HIV infection, Russian researchers said: <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21341517> ....[analyses] allowed authors to attribute this pathology to " free radical diseases " . In this analysis it is suggested that oxidative stress and distress, and also grounds for use of antioxidants and their combinations, can be considered in complex prophylactic or therapeutic application at HIV of infection. ....my interpretation of what's probably a machine translation, but you get the life-saving drift. Other research was more direct, stating, " A whey protein supplement did not increase weight or lean body mass in HIV-positive subjects who were eating adequately, but it did increase CD4 cell counts " .: <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18996868> Also in HIV research, Cuban technicians reported that a 100% cure rate occurs in those in whom the virus has not spread into the lymph. They do it with intravenous ozone therapy; ozone steam saunas are almost as good, cheaper over the long run and less invasive. Undenatured whey and selenium is the " other end " , the antioxidant effect, of the bio-oxidative therapies. Neither of these therapies stimulate or increase viral load. all good, Duncan > > > If a have a retrovirus and my white cell has been contaminated. Do you know anythings how can booster my inmunesystem WITHOUT replicating the virus.?? > > > any help?. > any research, studies?? > > thanks for reading my post > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 DUNCAN, you wrote " Also in HIV research, Cuban technicians reported that a 100% cure rate occurs in those in whom the virus has not spread into the lymph " . what about if the retrovirus already took over the LYMPH, can they die with the magnetic pulser or electrification . or is necessary the glutathione, selenium and ozone saunas?/ I don't understand why if the lymps are compromise there is less probability?? thanks Dunca, and all of you for helping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 The Cuban technicians know there's less probability of killing all the HIV with ozone if it's in the lymph because ozone therapy is given as an IV therapy in Cuba and we don't have a means for quickly circulating the lymph to achieve decent lymph fluid contact with the ozone. Nonetheless the ozone steam sauna works pretty good on any infection over time. Glutathione, through the undenatured whey and selenium, is used to reduce infection of all types, whether in the lymph or wherever else. I think the idea behind the Beck magnetic pulser is to move the lymph and maybe attenuate or kill some virus. all good, Duncan > > > DUNCAN, > you wrote " > Also in HIV research, Cuban technicians reported that a 100% cure rate occurs in those in whom the virus has not spread into the lymph " . > what about if the retrovirus already took over the LYMPH, can they die with the magnetic pulser or electrification . > or is necessary the glutathione, selenium and ozone saunas?/ > > I don't understand why if the lymps are compromise there is less probability?? > > thanks Dunca, and all of you for helping. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 I think you're right on moving lymph w/magnetic pulses, Duncan. Beck faced problem of lymph with patients who were bed-ridden and did not move around enough to move lymph naturally. the short duration of the magnetic pulse may not inactivate virus, however. The effect of current on virus is time dependent, and the pulses are in millionths of a second. whole minutes are needed. bG > > > > > > DUNCAN, > > you wrote " > > Also in HIV research, Cuban technicians reported that a 100% cure rate occurs in those in whom the virus has not spread into the lymph " . > > what about if the retrovirus already took over the LYMPH, can they die with the magnetic pulser or electrification . > > or is necessary the glutathione, selenium and ozone saunas?/ > > > > I don't understand why if the lymps are compromise there is less probability?? > > > > thanks Dunca, and all of you for helping. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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