Re: Mind Your Magensium

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Thanks for the magnesium info. I will be seeing a popular

nutritionist for the first time next week and will ask her about

this. I was taking vitamin D also and it was helping--I need to get

bback on track with that too.

>

> This article written my Margy Squires is from the December - March

> issue of " Fibromyalgia Aware " magazine:

>

> " In the biochemistry of life, magnesium is involved in more than

325

> enzymatic reactions that help regulate blood pressure, bone

building,

> heart rhythm, glucose, immunity, muscle function, nerve conduction,

> protein synthesis, and the energy that moves us through the day. A

> deficiency state is often found in hyptertension, diabetes, and

> cardiovasculare disease, which coincidently are the top theree

causes

> of death in the United States. However, the list does not stop

there.

>

> Magnesium is also low in osteoporosis, celiac sprue, Crohn's, hypo-

> and hyper- thyroidisim, insomnia, chronic pain conditions, post-

> stress disorders, fibromyalgia, and chronic fatigue syndrome. In

> fact there are few health conditions that are not 'magneium

> challenged.'

>

> Data from two national surveys by the National Center for Health

> Statistics report 70% of Americans receive less than the

recommended

> daily intake (RDI) of magensium. Currently the RDI for magnesium

for

> adults over the age of 30 is 420 mg. a day for males and 320 mg. a

> day for females.

>

> Why the national deficit? Perhaps dietary intake isn't enough if

> harvested foods are grown in magnesium -depleted soils, and we

drink

> mineral poor water. Other lifestyle factors tha decrease magnesium

> stores include prescription drugs such as antibiotics, birth

control,

> anti-inflammatories (particularly steroids), antacids, digoxin, and

> diureticsp and an over-consumption of phosphylated sugars,

saturated

> fats, softe drinks, and alcohol. Finally, some medical disorders

> require more magnesium than is being suppolied. It's not difficult

> to see why only 30 percent of heatlhy people meet the RDI.

>

> While magnesium is essential for good health, it is especially

> important when a known deficiency exists, as in FM. Supplemental

> magnesium can help you each and maintain optimal magnesium levels

to

> lessen symptoms related to sleep, energy, and pain.

>

> Two FM experts who shared their experiences with me were: 1.

> Romano, MD, PhD, a rheumatologist who was on the committee for the

> American College of Rheumatology's 1990 Classification of

> Fibromyalgia and 2. Mark Pellegrino, MD, is a doctor who's seen

more

> than 15,000 fibromyalgia patients and has FM himself.

>

> 'Many patients with FM/CFS appear healthy. so it was a bit of a

> surprise to find that such patients do, in fact, have lower

magnesium

> levels than control subjects,' Romano says. 'Since many patients

with

> FM have low levels of magnesium, it would certainly seem preudent

for

> such patients to take magnesium supplementation, he adds. Romano

> suggests thae direct measurement of an RBC Mg. level. But as we

> know, normal results may not be 'normal' for fibromyalgia. If the

> levels is below average (even though it may be in the normal

range),

> it would be reasonable to try oral magnesium supplements. If the

> level is very low ( i.e. below the lower level of the normal

range),

> then it is even more improtant for the patient to get magnesium

> supplementation, but the physicians may elect to use intramuscular

> injections of magnsium or intravenous solutions containing

magensium,

> in addition to oral magensium supplements.

>

> Dr. Pellegrino agrees that magnesium is often low in those with

> fibromyalgia. 'Research shows many people with FM report

improvement

> in symptoms after taking magnesium supplements,' he

says. 'Although

> it may take several weeks or months for the supplement to work, one

> watches for decreased pain, especially after exertion, improved

> energy, better sleep, and more baseline stability.'

>

> But not all magesium supplements are alike. Magnesium comes in

many

> forms that are not equal in delivery. Minerals in general are hard

> to absorb into the cll unless they are chelated (bound) to an amino

> acid. According to Albion Advanced Nutritions availability

testing,

> magnesium glycinate stays in the body longer, making it more

> available for utilization than other forms. The RBC Mg. is the

> otpimal test and readily avaliable from national laboratories, such

> as Sonora, Quest, and Lab/Cor. "

>

> I think I may ask Dr. Pellegrino about this magensium test when I

see

> him again. I have always taken the magensium malate with malic

acid

> form, but now am thinking of looking for the magnesium glycinate

and

> see if it might be more potent. I know taking the magnesium helps

to

> keep my pain levels down, because when I run out, my pain levels go

> up till I go back on them.

>

> sue in ohio

>

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Does anyone know how much we should take? I take a multi-vitamin but I am supposing supplement to that may be a good idea. I wonder if you can get too much magnesium or if your body sluffs off the excess. in Phx"Debbie H." <djh_50fab@...> wrote: Thanks for the magnesium info. I will be seeing a popular nutritionist for the first time next week and will ask her about this. I was taking vitamin D also and it was helping--I need to get bback on track with that too.

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Get enough magnesium. Aim for 400 mg of this mineral a day (through

diet

or supplements) to keep your metabolism ticking, help lower blood

pressure,

and give calcium absorption a boost. Some magnesium - rich foods

include

whole grane breads and cereals, most varieties of nuts, soybeans,

avocados,

raisins, bananas and dark chocolate. " per Dr. Roizen's lifestyle

changes

It certainly sounds as though most people aren't getting enough

magnesium, least

of all people with FM/CFS. Besides concentrating of foods containing

it, I

wonder how much supplementing would be considered too much or if

there is such a

thing. I do know that before I started taking extra magnesium I would

jump at

noises, had trouble with bright lights, traffic and felt jittery a

lot of the

time. I think it really controls a good deal of our nervous system

function.

Magnesium deficiency is very common in the general US population. Not

only is

our daily intake low, but we eat a diet which increases the demand for

magnesium. And unfortunately, urinary magnesium loss can be increased

by many

factors, both physical and emotional. Magnesium loss increases in the

presence

of certain hormones. Stress can greatly increase magnesium loss. Even

loud

noises can extra magnesium loss. One article on the web goes so far

as to say

that that almost everyone is the United States is at least marginally

deficient

in magnesium. So there is an excellent chance that a person with

fibromyalgia

has a magnesium deficiency. But since people with fibromyalgia often

have high

levels of stress, and a disrupted hormonal system, they are more

likely to be

candidates for magnesium deficiency. Plus, sleep deprivation has been

shown to

cause lower magnesium levels:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\

s=9068914 & dopt=Abstract

Magnesium is known to regulate or inhibit many nerve receptors, such

as NMDA or

5-HT3, which have been considered as sources of certain types of

fibromyalgia

pain. Neurontin, for example, is used because of it's ability to

regulate NMDA.

Since magnesium also blocks NMDA receptors, studies have used

intravenous

magnesium therapy to try and treat similar types of neuropathic pain:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\

s=10687324 & dopt=Abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\

s=9785788 & dopt=Abstract

And it's because of magnesium's ability to regulate nerve functions

that other

fibromyalgia symptoms occur. Migraine headaches, mitral valve

prolapse, and

Raynaud's phenomenon, all problems commonly found in people with

fibromyalgia,

are also problems that have been associated with a magnesium

deficiency.

Without enough magnesium, nerves fire too easily from even minor

stimuli.

Noises will sound excessively loud, lights will seem too bright,

emotional

reactions will be exaggerated, and the brain will be too stimulated

to sleep,

all symptoms commonly found in fibromyalgia. And if the

oversensitivity to

light and noise reminds you of someone suffering from a hangover,

they are one

and the same problem, as alcohol is known for decreasing magnesium

levels, and

magnesium supplementation has been found to relieve hangover symptoms.

A magnesium deficiency also increases levels of substance P, a

chemical which

has been implicated as being responsible for increased pain levels in

FMS.

Several studies, such as the following, show this:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\

s=1384353 & dopt=Abstract

Unfortunately, magnesium deficiency is not easily detected, as serum

levels do

not reflect the levels of magnesium in tissues. This is the reason

why it is so

overlooked and ignored, both by doctors and by studies. And

unfortunately, oral

magnesium supplementation can be difficult because of absorption

problems.

Digestion and diet play a key role in absorption. People with

fibromyalgia

often have conditions like Irritable Bowel System, gluten

intolerance, or other

problems that might limit absorption. Phosphate can bind to magnesium

in the

gut, creating magnesium phosphate, an insoluble salt that can't be

utilized.

Many forms of oral magnesium supplements are hard to assimilate. The

most

common, magnesium oxide and citrate, happen to be the worst to

assimilate, which

is why both have a strong laxative effect. If you suffer from that

effect when

you take magnesium, it is often not because you are taking too much,

but because

you are not assimilating it well. And it may take long term use of

supplements

before magnesium levels are raised in all the tissues, and for

damaged cell

functions to be restored.

Therefore, the symptoms which Dr. St. Amand has attributed to an

excess of

phosphate, would more likely be due to a magnesium deficiency.

http://web.mit.edu/london/www/guai.html

And - All about Magnesium

http://web.mit.edu/london/www/magnesium.html

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Malic Acid

TRADE NAMES

Fibralgia (Nature's Sunshine)

DESCRIPTION

Malic acid, an alpha-hydroxy organic acid, is sometimes referred to

as a fruit acid. This is because malic acid is found in apples and

other fruits. It is also found in plants and animals, including

humans. In fact, malic acid, in the form of its anion malate, is a

key intermediate in the major biochemical energy-producing cycle in

cells known as the citric acid or Krebs cycle located in the cells'

mitochondria.

Malic acid, also known as apple acid, hydroxybutanedioic acid and

hydroxysuccinic acid, is a chiral molecule. The naturally occurring

stereoisomer is the L-form. The L-form is also the biologically

active one. There is some preliminary evidence that malic acid, in

combination with magnesium, may be helpful for some with

fibromyalgia. Malic acid sold as a supplement is mainly derived from

apples and, therefore, is the L-form.

Malic acid, in combination with magnesium, has putative

antifibromyalgic activity.

more:

http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdrugprofiles/nutsupdrugs/mal_0292

..shtml

> Thanks for the magnesium info. I will be seeing a popular

> nutritionist for the first time next week and will ask her about

> this. I was taking vitamin D also and it was helping--I need to get

> bback on track with that too.

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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Thank you - I looked and my multi only has 100 mg of it and it says 25% of daily requirement. I will get a suppliment! Thank you much (magnesium rich foods are also, looking at the list, very rich in carbs and I am on a totally low carb diet for pre-diabetes so I need to supplement). Thank you much <cindyinmd55@...> wrote: Get enough magnesium. Aim for 400 mg of this mineral a day (through dietor supplements) to keep your metabolism ticking, help lower blood pressure,and give calcium absorption a boost. Some magnesium - rich foods includewhole grane breads and cereals, most varieties of nuts, soybeans, avocados,raisins, bananas and dark chocolate." per Dr. Roizen's lifestyle changes

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Too much magnesium will give you diarrhea. That is when your body had had enough!!

Hugs, Michele - Nana & DayCare provider toTwins is and , 18 mos., Zachary, 3 yrs.,Ethan, 7 yrs., and Tony, 11 yrs.

----- Original Message -----

From: in AZ Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 6:03 PM

Does anyone know how much we should take? I take a multi-vitamin but I am supposing supplement to that may be a good idea. I wonder if you can get too much magnesium or if your body sluffs off the excess.

in Phx

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LOL wonderful! Thanks Michele - I'll try to not have that *grin* Michele Townsend <mtownsend29@...> wrote: Too much magnesium will give you diarrhea. That is when your body had had enough!! Hugs, Michele - Nana & DayCare provider toTwins is and , 18 mos., Zachary, 3 yrs.,Ethan, 7 yrs., and Tony, 11 yrs. -----

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When I was in the hospital with Legionnaire's, my doctor had to give me magnesium through the IV. She also told me at this time, that too low magnesium can't result in death!!!! She said that is what happens to a lot of the young kids that die on the basketball court suddenly.

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Re: Mind Your Magensium

Get enough magnesium. Aim for 400 mg of this mineral a day (through dietor supplements) to keep your metabolism ticking, help lower blood pressure,and give calcium absorption a boost. Some magnesium - rich foods includewhole grane breads and cereals, most varieties of nuts, soybeans, avocados,raisins, bananas and dark chocolate." per Dr. Roizen's lifestyle changes It certainly sounds as though most people aren't getting enough magnesium, leastof all people with FM/CFS. Besides concentrating of foods containing it, Iwonder how much supplementing would be considered too much or if there is such athing. I do know that before I started taking extra magnesium I would jump atnoises, had trouble with bright lights, traffic and felt jittery a lot of thetime. I think it really controls a good deal of our nervous system function.Magnesium deficiency is very common in the general US population. Not only isour daily intake low, but we eat a diet which increases the demand formagnesium. And unfortunately, urinary magnesium loss can be increased by manyfactors, both physical and emotional. Magnesium loss increases in the presenceof certain hormones. Stress can greatly increase magnesium loss. Even loudnoises can extra magnesium loss. One article on the web goes so far as to saythat that almost everyone is the United States is at least marginally deficientin magnesium. So there is an excellent chance that a person with fibromyalgiahas a magnesium deficiency. But since people with fibromyalgia often have highlevels of stress, and a disrupted hormonal system, they are more likely to becandidates for magnesium deficiency. Plus, sleep deprivation has been shown tocause lower magnesium levels:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\s=9068914 & dopt=AbstractMagnesium is known to regulate or inhibit many nerve receptors, such as NMDA or5-HT3, which have been considered as sources of certain types of fibromyalgiapain. Neurontin, for example, is used because of it's ability to regulate NMDA.Since magnesium also blocks NMDA receptors, studies have used intravenousmagnesium therapy to try and treat similar types of neuropathic pain:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\s=10687324 & dopt=Abstracthttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\s=9785788 & dopt=AbstractAnd it's because of magnesium's ability to regulate nerve functions that otherfibromyalgia symptoms occur. Migraine headaches, mitral valve prolapse, andRaynaud's phenomenon, all problems commonly found in people with fibromyalgia,are also problems that have been associated with a magnesium deficiency. Without enough magnesium, nerves fire too easily from even minor stimuli. Noises will sound excessively loud, lights will seem too bright, emotionalreactions will be exaggerated, and the brain will be too stimulated to sleep,all symptoms commonly found in fibromyalgia. And if the oversensitivity tolight and noise reminds you of someone suffering from a hangover, they are oneand the same problem, as alcohol is known for decreasing magnesium levels, andmagnesium supplementation has been found to relieve hangover symptoms.A magnesium deficiency also increases levels of substance P, a chemical whichhas been implicated as being responsible for increased pain levels in FMS. Several studies, such as the following, show this:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uid\s=1384353 & dopt=AbstractUnfortunately, magnesium deficiency is not easily detected, as serum levels donot reflect the levels of magnesium in tissues. This is the reason why it is sooverlooked and ignored, both by doctors and by studies. And unfortunately, oralmagnesium supplementation can be difficult because of absorption problems. Digestion and diet play a key role in absorption. People with fibromyalgiaoften have conditions like Irritable Bowel System, gluten intolerance, or otherproblems that might limit absorption. Phosphate can bind to magnesium in thegut, creating magnesium phosphate, an insoluble salt that can't be utilized. Many forms of oral magnesium supplements are hard to assimilate. The mostcommon, magnesium oxide and citrate, happen to be the worst to assimilate, whichis why both have a strong laxative effect. If you suffer from that effect whenyou take magnesium, it is often not because you are taking too much, but becauseyou are not assimilating it well. And it may take long term use of supplementsbefore magnesium levels are raised in all the tissues, and for damaged cellfunctions to be restored.Therefore, the symptoms which Dr. St. Amand has attributed to an excess ofphosphate, would more likely be due to a magnesium deficiency.http://web.mit.edu/london/www/guai.htmlAnd - All about Magnesiumhttp://web.mit.edu/london/www/magnesium.html[Non-text Malic AcidTRADE NAMESFibralgia (Nature's Sunshine)DESCRIPTIONMalic acid, an alpha-hydroxy organic acid, is sometimes referred to as a fruit acid. This is because malic acid is found in apples and other fruits. It is also found in plants and animals, including humans. In fact, malic acid, in the form of its anion malate, is a key intermediate in the major biochemical energy-producing cycle in cells known as the citric acid or Krebs cycle located in the cells' mitochondria.Malic acid, also known as apple acid, hydroxybutanedioic acid and hydroxysuccinic acid, is a chiral molecule. The naturally occurring stereoisomer is the L-form. The L-form is also the biologically active one. There is some preliminary evidence that malic acid, in combination with magnesium, may be helpful for some with fibromyalgia. Malic acid sold as a supplement is mainly derived from apples and, therefore, is the L-form.Malic acid, in combination with magnesium, has putative antifibromyalgic activity.more: http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdrugprofiles/nutsupdrugs/mal_0292.shtml--- In dominie , in AZ <oriana_az@...> wrote:>> Does anyone know how much we should take? I take a multi-vitamin but I am supposing supplement to that may be a good idea. I wonder if you can get too much magnesium or if your body sluffs off the excess.> in Phx> > "Debbie H." <djh_50fab@...> wrote:> Thanks for the magnesium info. I will be seeing a popular > nutritionist for the first time next week and will ask her about > this. I was taking vitamin D also and it was helping--I need to get > bback on track with that too.> > > ---------------------------------> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.>

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I am hoping that upping my magensium will loosen the old bowels up as I have IBS with constipation even though I eat an extremely high fiber diet and use all kinds of fiber supplements. I also have diverticulosis so constipation is a real no-no for me. When it gets bad I use Miralax which I have a prescription for, but would rather use magnesium along with the fiber rather than the Miralax. I use the generic miralax and it tastes yucky but it is much cheaper by prescription for me than over the counter. Thanks for the warning, though.

sue in ohio

>> Too much magnesium will give you diarrhea. That is when your body had had enough!!> Hugs, Michele - Nana & DayCare provider to> Twins is and , 18 mos., Zachary, 3 yrs.,> Ethan, 7 yrs., and Tony, 11 yrs. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: in AZ Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 6:03 PM> > > Does anyone know how much we should take? I take a multi-vitamin but I am supposing supplement to that may be a good idea. I wonder if you can get too much magnesium or if your body sluffs off the excess.> in Phx>

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My step father has terrible IBS and Dr. told him to drink a nightly cocktail made up of Milk of Magnesia and Prune juice (ugh!) Sounds horrible, but it has worked great for him. He used to have to do enema after enema to get relief. My mom definitely enjoys the change too as she doesn't have to "clean up" after him anymore. Thought I'd share =) Nadine sueinohio2001 <sueinohio2001@...> wrote: I am hoping that upping my magensium will loosen the

old bowels up as I have IBS with constipation even though I eat an extremely high fiber diet and use all kinds of fiber supplements. I also have diverticulosis so constipation is a real no-no for me. When it gets bad I use Miralax which I have a prescription for, but would rather use magnesium along with the fiber rather than the Miralax. I use the generic miralax and it tastes yucky but it is much cheaper by prescription for me than over the counter. Thanks for the warning, though. sue in ohio >> Too much magnesium will give you diarrhea. That is when your body had had enough!!> Hugs, Michele - Nana & DayCare provider to> Twins is and , 18 mos., Zachary, 3 yrs.,> Ethan, 7 yrs., and Tony, 11 yrs. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From:

in AZ Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 6:03 PM> > > Does anyone know how much we should take? I take a multi-vitamin but I am supposing supplement to that may be a good idea. I wonder if you can get too much magnesium or if your body sluffs off the excess.> in Phx>

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Believe me it will, trust me. My new dr just gave me something called "Fibrocare" which is magnesium and malic acid even though I was already on a calcium and magnesium capsule. He also gave me B-Complex capsules called "End Fatigue daily energy complex, along with a "End Fatigue daily energy enfusion" which is a powder that I mix with liquid every a.m. I haven't seen much difference yet but the magnesium definitely loosens the stools. They were all recommended and developed by Dr. Teitelbaum which I am sure most of you have heard of. The dr I am seeing now works closely with him so I am really encouraged by this for once and not discouraged when leaving a drs office. Thanks guys for all your sharing. Let me know if any of you have tried or heard of any of these. I have only been on them since Saturday. Shirley Godbout

Re: Mind Your Magensium

I am hoping that upping my magensium will loosen the old bowels up as I have IBS with constipation even though I eat an extremely high fiber diet and use all kinds of fiber supplements. I also have diverticulosis so constipation is a real no-no for me. When it gets bad I use Miralax which I have a prescription for, but would rather use magnesium along with the fiber rather than the Miralax. I use the generic miralax and it tastes yucky but it is much cheaper by prescription for me than over the counter. Thanks for the warning, though.

sue in ohio

>> Too much magnesium will give you diarrhea. That is when your body had had enough!!> Hugs, Michele - Nana & DayCare provider to> Twins is and , 18 mos., Zachary, 3 yrs.,> Ethan, 7 yrs., and Tony, 11 yrs. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: in AZ Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 6:03 PM> > > Does anyone know how much we should take? I take a multi-vitamin but I am supposing supplement to that may be a good idea. I wonder if you can get too much magnesium or if your body sluffs off the excess.> in Phx>

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Amen to that! Shirley Godbout

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Too much magnesium will give you diarrhea. That is when your body had had enough!!

Hugs, Michele - Nana & DayCare provider toTwins is and , 18 mos., Zachary, 3 yrs.,Ethan, 7 yrs., and Tony, 11 yrs.

----- Original Message -----

From: in AZ Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 6:03 PM

Does anyone know how much we should take? I take a multi-vitamin but I am supposing supplement to that may be a good idea. I wonder if you can get too much magnesium or if your body sluffs off the excess.

in Phx

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I went out and bought magnesium - I can't swallow it! It's in tablet form, not coated, and I just can't get it to go down. It starts to melt in my mouth! ACK! in PhxShirley Godbout <prywarr@...> wrote: Believe me it will, trust me. My new dr just gave me something called "Fibrocare" which is magnesium and malic acid even though I was already on a calcium and magnesium capsule. He also gave me B-Complex capsules called "End Fatigue daily energy complex, along with a "End Fatigue daily energy enfusion" which is a powder that I mix with liquid every a.m. I haven't seen much difference yet but

the magnesium definitely loosens the stools. They were all recommended and developed by Dr. Teitelbaum which I am sure most of you have heard of. The dr I am seeing now works closely with him so I am really encouraged by this for once and not discouraged when leaving a drs office. Thanks guys for all your sharing. Let me know if any of you have tried or heard of any of these. I have only been on them since Saturday. Shirley Godbout

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There's a powdered magnesium that you mix with water called

NaturalCalm. Look online.

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apples are a great source of malic acid... when i found this out it was a source of a good of laugh for me and good friend that also has fibro because we loves apples and will pick them all out of a fruit salad and such.. i guess it was our bodies telling us what we needed...Shirley Godbout <prywarr@...> wrote: Believe me it will, trust me. My new dr just gave me something called "Fibrocare" which is magnesium and malic acid even though I

was already on a calcium and magnesium capsule. He also gave me B-Complex capsules called "End Fatigue daily energy complex, along with a "End Fatigue daily energy enfusion" which is a powder that I mix with liquid every a.m. I haven't seen much difference yet but the magnesium definitely loosens the stools. They were all recommended and developed by Dr. Teitelbaum which I am sure most of you have heard of. The dr I am seeing now works closely with him so I am really encouraged by this for once and not discouraged when leaving a drs office. Thanks guys for all your sharing. Let me know if any of you have tried or heard of any of these. I have only been on them since Saturday. Shirley Godbout Re: Mind Your Magensium I am hoping that upping my magensium will loosen the old bowels up as I have IBS with constipation even though I eat an extremely high fiber diet and use all kinds of fiber supplements. I also have diverticulosis so constipation is a real no-no for me. When it gets bad I use Miralax which I have a prescription for, but would rather use magnesium along with the fiber rather than the Miralax. I use the generic miralax and it tastes yucky but it is much cheaper by prescription for me than over the counter. Thanks for the warning, though. sue in ohio >> Too much magnesium will give you diarrhea. That is when your body had had enough!!> Hugs, Michele - Nana & DayCare provider to> Twins is and , 18 mos., Zachary, 3 yrs.,> Ethan, 7 yrs., and Tony, 11 yrs. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: in AZ Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 6:03 PM> > > Does anyone know how much we should take? I take a multi-vitamin but I am supposing supplement to that may be a good idea. I wonder if you can get too much magnesium or if your body sluffs off the excess.> in Phx> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

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