Guest guest Posted December 30, 2000 Report Share Posted December 30, 2000 In a message dated 12/30/00 2:32:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, pj20844@... writes: << List, I have sent to Sota for their 66 page booklet on the protocol. >> Hi pj, Is there anything in this booklet that would be useful for this and the other Beck list? If you think there is, could you send us whatever you think we haven't read already. I don't know if there are any legalities involved with posting this information but I could post it as a file on the main web page. Thanks, Dotsie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 In a message dated 12/31/00 8:17:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, arose@... writes: << Enclosed is a copy of the Bob Beck Protocol.. comes from Bob Beck and outlines the requirements. New members will appreciate this information. >> Thanks Alvin. I will post this on egroups main page. Dotsie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 Hi Dotsieboo Enclosed is a copy of the Bob Beck Protocol.. comes from Bob Beck and outlines the requirements. New members will appreciate this information. QUICK SUMMARY A New Paradigm for Instant Healng Informational and Educational Purposes Only. Not intended as medical Advice. Revision May 16,1997. Copyright Ó1997 C. Beck Disclosed here is a revolutionary do-it-yourself, safe, natural, inexpensive proven solution to infectious diseases based on blood electrification. It requires no doctors, drugs, or other outside intervention. It costs practically nothing. Clinical tests have confirmed these four steps can " cure " HIV (AIDS), CANCER, HEPATITIS, LUPUS, EPSTEIN-BARR, GULF WAR SYNDROME, GIARDIA, CANDIDA, and even the common cold, plus most other known infectious diseases including ones for which there are no currently successful antibiotics, vaccines, or treatments. It is offered to humanity as a no-profit, information-only, empowerment for everyone who wishes to be healthy again. We have nothing for sale. Unbelievable breakthrough in recent research. HOW? Four separate discoveries are combined in this new " cocktail " paradigm. Together they provide confirmed sweeping magic-bullet " cures " clinically tested and demonstrated to actually eliminate most " incurable " afflictions. If you do it yourself you have nothing to buy except parts and batteries. Most have unconscious death-wishes manifested as disbelief, aversion, resistance and " defeat the unorthodox healer " . But you must take back your own power and be willing to let go of your crutches. What are the four easy protocols? 1. Blood Electrification: Microcurrents are known to eliminate all viruses, parasites, fungi, bacteria and pathogens in blood. Disclosed by many revolutionary patents and research over past years, these breakthroughs were lost or suppressed. The method was rediscovered by Einstein College of Medicine as an AIDS cure in 1990, then silenced. 2. Pulsed Kilogauss Magnetic Fields: Externally applied magnetic resonance of lymph, spleen, kidney & liver helps neutralize germinating, latent alien invaders and blocks re-infection. This quickens disease elimination, restores the immune system and supports detoxification. Permanent magnets, no matter how strong, will not nor can not scavenge pathogens with back-emf currents. You must have a sharp time-varying, not DC, magnetic impulse. 3. Sliver Colloids: Pennies-per-gallon self-made perfected colloids greatly assist in eliminating all known pathogens and guard against opportunistic infections. This " second immune system " is synergistic with steps 1, 2, and 4. 4. Drinking Ozonized Water: Rapid, safe, totally natural cell oxygenation without free radical damage. Universal detoxification by oxidation of wastes, dead and neutralized pathogens, (all anaerobic) reducing all to H5O + CO5 without colonics, heat, liver and kidney flushing, herbs or other modalities. A low-cost, O3 generator is fully described. These four do-it-yourself tools are fully disclosed with detailed illustrated instructions for use. Utilized together and for two hours a day for about three weeks, they eliminate diseases. There is nothing to buy. No outside intervention, pharmaceuticals, herbs, enzymes or other treatments appear necessary. Some persons may need extra rest, liquids, trace minerals plus vitamins B and C during recovery. Malingerers justify avoidance by repeatedly demanding more " proof " . If you show 100 cures, they'll insist on 1000, being more comfortable with peer approval than anything new. Have these flour Proven cures been known previously? Apparently, but not in combination. Related discoveries have been reported in medical journals and patents over many years. Most were lost, ignored, disbelieved or suppressed by doctors and pharmaceutical cartels because this knowledge thwarts profiteering from people's suffering. US patents on related inventions establish public domain by prior state-of-the-art (many are pre-1982). Such miracle " cures " have been independently rediscovered and proven effective many times. Lately all four combined therapies were tested. This proved to be a synergistic breakthrough -the magic-bullet solution to most diseases was found and confirmed by clinical studies including numerous PCR tests plus disappearance of all symptoms. Why haven't doctors revealed this before now? A patient cured is a medical customer lost! When actualized, these data could interrupt HMO profits; disrupt medical-pharmaceutical cartels; abort all biological warfare schemes; eliminate most drugs, medicines, debility, and early deaths; wipe out hospital and health care capital investments; minimize insurance machinations; dramatically abate sickness and suffering; plus imperil social security futures with bankruptcy; wreck sales of supplements, herbs, homeopathic and other health " remedies " , machines, and practitioner's incomes. These are not politically correct. It might permit a few ethical practitioners to keep their Hippocratic oaths by giving back the patient's sovereignty instead of serving the AMA, FDA, and drug cartels. But this would decimate their incomes. Bob Beck *************************************************************** Electro-Medicine How To Be Healthy Again! E-Book: The Electronic Health Solution. Complete Information on: (1) Bob Beck Technology. (2) Colloidal Silver Technology. (3) Dr Hulda Technology. (4) Royal-Rife Technology. Visit: http://www.rtvc-2000.com/healthy.htm Blood Purifiers..Zappers..Colloidal Silver Generators..Etc..Can't decide which one you like.... see the New Model 3..It has both 4hz & 100hz Beck type unit..with 30 kc type Zapper in one unit ..... built in Constant Current Colloidal Silver Generator and plug-in Silver Electrodes....fits in your shirt pocket! Download the E-Book free with any Electronics order. ..See Them at: http://www.rtvc-2000.com/purifier.htm **************************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 Hi Dotsie, I've been lerking in the background for quite awhile, but have been keeping up on the previous post. I know some from the beck-n-stuff list. Hi Alvin, Is ozanated water the same thing as homozon or h202. I'm still confused, and wondering if using the homozon is the same thing, or at least, will it do. Hi Duncan, You're idea is great. With God all things are possible. Take care, Gail Re: Beck protocol > Hi Dotsieboo > Enclosed is a copy of the Bob Beck Protocol.. > comes from Bob Beck and outlines the requirements. > New members will appreciate this information. > > QUICK SUMMARY > > A New Paradigm for Instant Healng > > Informational and Educational Purposes Only. Not > intended as medical Advice. > > Revision May 16,1997. Copyright Ó1997 > C. Beck > > Disclosed here is a revolutionary do-it-yourself, safe, natural, > inexpensive proven solution to infectious diseases based on blood > electrification. It requires no doctors, drugs, or other outside > intervention. It costs practically nothing. Clinical tests have confirmed > these four steps can " cure " HIV (AIDS), CANCER, HEPATITIS, LUPUS, > EPSTEIN-BARR, GULF WAR SYNDROME, GIARDIA, > CANDIDA, and even the common cold, plus most other known infectious > diseases including ones for which there are no currently > successful antibiotics, vaccines, or treatments. It is offered to humanity > as a no-profit, information-only, empowerment for everyone > who wishes to be healthy again. We have nothing for sale. > > Unbelievable breakthrough in recent research. > > HOW? Four separate discoveries are combined in this new " cocktail " > paradigm. Together they provide confirmed sweeping > magic-bullet " cures " clinically tested and demonstrated to actually > eliminate most " incurable " afflictions. If you do it yourself you > have nothing to buy except parts and batteries. Most have unconscious > death-wishes manifested as disbelief, aversion, resistance > and " defeat the unorthodox healer " . But you must take back your own power > and be willing to let go of your crutches. > > What are the four easy protocols? > > 1. Blood Electrification: Microcurrents are known to eliminate all viruses, > parasites, fungi, bacteria and pathogens in blood. > Disclosed by many revolutionary patents and research over past years, these > breakthroughs were lost or suppressed. The method > was rediscovered by Einstein College of Medicine as an AIDS cure in 1990, > then silenced. > > 2. Pulsed Kilogauss Magnetic Fields: Externally applied magnetic resonance > of lymph, spleen, kidney & liver helps neutralize > germinating, latent alien invaders and blocks re-infection. This quickens > disease elimination, restores the immune system and > supports detoxification. Permanent magnets, no matter how strong, will not > nor can not scavenge pathogens with back-emf currents. > You must have a sharp time-varying, not DC, magnetic impulse. > > 3. Sliver Colloids: Pennies-per-gallon self-made perfected colloids greatly > assist in eliminating all known pathogens and guard > against opportunistic infections. This " second immune system " is > synergistic with steps 1, 2, and 4. > > 4. Drinking Ozonized Water: Rapid, safe, totally natural cell oxygenation > without free radical damage. Universal detoxification by > oxidation of wastes, dead and neutralized pathogens, (all anaerobic) > reducing all to H5O + CO5 without colonics, heat, liver and > kidney flushing, herbs or other modalities. A low-cost, O3 generator is > fully described. > > These four do-it-yourself tools are fully disclosed with detailed > illustrated instructions for use. Utilized together and for two hours a > day for about three weeks, they eliminate diseases. There is nothing to > buy. No outside intervention, pharmaceuticals, herbs, > enzymes or other treatments appear necessary. Some persons may need extra > rest, liquids, trace minerals plus vitamins B and C > during recovery. Malingerers justify avoidance by repeatedly demanding more > " proof " . If you show 100 cures, they'll insist on 1000, > being more comfortable with peer approval than anything new. > > Have these flour Proven cures been known previously? Apparently, but not in > combination. Related discoveries have been > reported in medical journals and patents over many years. Most were lost, > ignored, disbelieved or suppressed by doctors and > pharmaceutical cartels because this knowledge thwarts profiteering from > people's suffering. US patents on related inventions > establish public domain by prior state-of-the-art (many are pre-1982). Such > miracle " cures " have been independently rediscovered > and proven effective many times. Lately all four combined therapies were > tested. This proved to be a synergistic breakthrough -the > magic-bullet solution to most diseases was found and confirmed by clinical > studies including numerous PCR tests plus > disappearance of all symptoms. > > Why haven't doctors revealed this before now? A patient cured is a medical > customer lost! When actualized, these data could > interrupt HMO profits; disrupt medical-pharmaceutical cartels; abort all > biological warfare schemes; eliminate most drugs, > medicines, debility, and early deaths; wipe out hospital and health care > capital investments; minimize insurance machinations; > dramatically abate sickness and suffering; plus imperil social security > futures with bankruptcy; wreck sales of supplements, herbs, > homeopathic and other health " remedies " , machines, and practitioner's > incomes. These are not politically correct. > > It might permit a few ethical practitioners to keep their Hippocratic oaths > by giving back the patient's sovereignty instead > of serving the AMA, FDA, and drug cartels. But this would decimate their > incomes. > > Bob Beck > > > > *************************************************************** > Electro-Medicine > How To Be Healthy Again! > E-Book: The Electronic Health Solution. > Complete Information on: > (1) Bob Beck Technology. > (2) Colloidal Silver Technology. > (3) Dr Hulda Technology. > (4) Royal-Rife Technology. > Visit: http://www.rtvc-2000.com/healthy.htm > Blood Purifiers..Zappers..Colloidal Silver > Generators..Etc..Can't decide which one > you like.... see the New Model 3..It has both > 4hz & 100hz Beck type unit..with 30 kc > type Zapper in one unit ..... built in > Constant Current Colloidal Silver Generator > and plug-in Silver Electrodes....fits in your shirt pocket! > Download the E-Book free with any Electronics order. > .See Them at: > http://www.rtvc-2000.com/purifier.htm > **************************************************************** > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 In a message dated 12/31/00 7:33:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, mmgg@... writes: << I'm still confused, and wondering if using the homozon is the same thing, or at least, will it do. >> Hi Gail, Have you tried Homozon? If only I could get over the taste (yuk), I would be taking it a lot more. I posted a booklet as a file on the egroups website that you may find interesting. Below is from the booklet: Dotsie ~~We have thus striven to have first-rate authorities verify our most important points. We asked the professional chemist, Dr. C. Bischoff to ascertain the safety and oxygen content of our Haemozon. He confirmed that our preparation contained 8.534% of active oxygen, i.e., 5.969 liter for every 100 grams. Moreover, there was an absence of any dangerous ad-mixtures of ingredients. At New York University it was demonstrated that 1 gram of Haemozon killed 2 1/4 million Typhus Bacillus. The University of Vienna, as well as the leading bacteriologists of Germany came to the same conclusions. The proof for the efficacy of oxidation was demonstrated by the following experiment: Methylenblue Experiment If 1/10th of 1 gram of methylenblue is ingested, then after 1 to 2 hours the urine takes on a blue-green color, this color will disappear after 3 to 4 days. However, if the ingestion of the methylenblue and the onset of blue-green urine is followed by ingestion of 2 grams of Haemozon, then the color of the urine is significantly cleared, and a further gram of Haemozon completely removes the blue-green color. The body is unable to perform this oxidation on its own. Hence the urine, while on its way to the kidneys must have come in contact with active oxygen. Thereby we have proof that the oxygen in Haemozon is diffused into the blood and there performs the functions we have already theoretically explained. THE CLINICAL EXPERIMENTS of Dr. Winterberg in Vienna had the following results: Heart activity increased, the pulse became stronger, more regular. Breathing became easier, more regular, deeper. Bowel movements improved, bacteria in the intestines were reduced. The kidneys produced more urine and much less uric acid. Metabolism was significantly stimulated. Various Additional Supportive Factors in Healing The essentials have already been mentioned. As a supportive factor, we would like to state that various diets and individually adapted uses of water have proven themselves useful in promoting healing; they are recommended by our doctor in particular cases. At this time we would like to especially make reference to our oxygen baths, and for which we have prepared a separate pamphlet. Our oxygen baths are made from chemicals and not from compressed oxygen. Doctors have demonstrated that oxygen baths are particularly effective for nerve, heart and kidney diseases, as well as for hardening of the arteries, anemia, jaundice, diabetes and insomnia. Urine Analysis In addition to the probing questions of a doctor, analysis of the urine can provide worthwhile insight into metabolic disorders. Urine is a mirror of the blood and the blood is a mirror of the individual organs. Hence many illnesses of the organs can first be detected in the urine. Blood from the veins receives as much dead tissue-cells as it can carry, as well as all sorts of impurities. These are then carried to the bladder where stomach and intestinal juices, gall residue, uric acid, protein, sugar, etc., are transferred to the urine. By examining the urine, an experienced doctor can make a very good diagnosis of the metabolic disorder as well as the location of that disorder. Under certain circumstances, the doctor can even detect illnesses in their beginning stages. Urinalysis is therefore a most valuable diagnostic tool, as well as a control for our preparations. When scientifically analyzed under a microscope, urine has shown itself to be an indispensable indicator in the causes of our ilnesses. It is for this reason that we have devoted so much time and care to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 In a message dated 1/1/01 4:40:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, mmgg@... writes: << I've had an order in for over a month, but still haven't received it. >> Hi Gail, I guess it's the time you ordered it with the heavy Christmas mail deliveries. << I left out the ozonated water >> I did too. <<my magnetic pulser just broke today>> Do you have a Jaguar unit because mine broke also and it didn't take long to send it to and back to me. I wish he would mark the polarity though so I could fix it myself. <<My holiday company will be leaving this Wed., and I look forward to some much needed rest.>> This last week, I was cooking for over 20 people every day and when they finally left for the airport and I got my house back in shape, they all came back due to a snowstorm in NY/NJ.....but it was great and I will have happy memories to last the rest of the year. <<my plans are to try the homozon>> When you do get the homozon, let me know what you think about it. Dotsie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 Hi Gail I was referring to ozonized water made with the ozonizer similar to the beck device..also I understand that it can be done using the correct proportion of h202 (hyrdrogen peroxide) and water. also homozon does the same thing but I am not familiar with it . an oxygen bottle releasing oxygen slowly in a glass of cold ice water will work too...Have you tried the homozon yet and does it work ok? There is a set of instructions to make a home made unit with a vapour street light bulb but I'm not sure how well it works. Might be interesting to try. Alvin *************************************************************** Electro-Medicine How To Be Healthy Again! E-Book: The Electronic Health Solution. Complete Information on: (1) Bob Beck Technology. (2) Colloidal Silver Technology. (3) Dr Hulda Technology. (4) Royal-Rife Technology. Visit: http://www.rtvc-2000.com/healthy.htm Blood Purifiers..Zappers..Colloidal Silver Generators..Etc..Can't decide which one you like.... see the New Model 3..It has both 4hz & 100hz Beck type unit..with 30 kc type Zapper in one unit ..... built in Constant Current Colloidal Silver Generator and plug-in Silver Electrodes....fits in your shirt pocket! Download the E-Book free with any Electronics order. ..See Them at: http://www.rtvc-2000.com/purifier.htm **************************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 Hi Alvin and others, Happy New Year, 2001. Here's to everybody's health. No, I haven't tried the homozon yet. I've had an order in for over a month, but still haven't received it. It's frustrating to say the least. said he order his after me and got it fine. I'm getting jealous, kind of immature, huh? At this rate, I only live in the next state, I could have driven there and picked it up myself. My new year's plan was to start all over with the Bob Beck 4 part protocol. So far, my magnetic pulser just broke today, no homozon, and I'm out of CS. Still the black box works great for me. For those of you who don't know me, I'm treating myself for CFIDS and have had really good results with a 3 part protocol to the Bob Beck healing. I left out the ozonated water. Still I had good results with what I did. By the way, Dotsie, I have a very good stomache, and I'm sure I'll do fine with the homozon. I can stomache about anything. My holiday company will be leaving this Wed., and I look forward to some much needed rest. I think rest should be a 5th part to the protocol of healing. I would like to take a look at some of the plans to make your own ozonier, but so far I'm too chicken to open up any of the attachments, plus I don't really know if I could understand it now anyway. So, for the moment, my plans are to try the homozon, send my pulser back for repairs, and get on with the business of getting well. Hope you all had a good holiday season. Take care, Gail Re: Beck protocol > Hi Gail > I was referring to ozonized water made with the ozonizer > similar to the beck device..also I understand that it can be > done using the correct proportion of h202 (hyrdrogen peroxide) > and water. also homozon does the same thing but I am not > familiar with it . an oxygen bottle releasing oxygen slowly > in a glass of cold ice water will work too...Have you tried the > homozon yet and does it work ok? > There is a set of instructions to make a home made unit with > a vapour street light bulb but I'm not sure how well it works. > Might be interesting to try. > Alvin > *************************************************************** > Electro-Medicine > How To Be Healthy Again! > E-Book: The Electronic Health Solution. > Complete Information on: > (1) Bob Beck Technology. > (2) Colloidal Silver Technology. > (3) Dr Hulda Technology. > (4) Royal-Rife Technology. > Visit: http://www.rtvc-2000.com/healthy.htm > Blood Purifiers..Zappers..Colloidal Silver > Generators..Etc..Can't decide which one > you like.... see the New Model 3..It has both > 4hz & 100hz Beck type unit..with 30 kc > type Zapper in one unit ..... built in > Constant Current Colloidal Silver Generator > and plug-in Silver Electrodes....fits in your shirt pocket! > Download the E-Book free with any Electronics order. > .See Them at: > http://www.rtvc-2000.com/purifier.htm > **************************************************************** > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 Ah Alvin, I do so look forward to some relief. My pulser makes a clicking noise, but the light doesn't flash. Whenever I try and fix something, I usually mess it up more. I did get it from Jaguar, so I'll probably just send it back. Dotsie, I already know I'll love the homozon, just know it. I sure could have use some over the holidays. Take care all, Gail Re: Beck protocol > Hi Gail > I guess it's nice to have the family home for the holidays but > it sure sounds like a lot of work.. relief will come soon...Then > you can start on the Beck Protocol again...What kind of a problem > do you have with your magnetic pulser...Does it come on at all > or is it dead....Best of wishes for the New Year. > Alvin > *************************************************** > Check It Out! > If you're looking for Blood purifiers, Zappers, > Colloidal Silver Generators or E-Book information... > on Beck--Rife-Colloidal Silver technology...... > Feel free to visit: > http://www.rtvc-2000.com/purifier.htm > For E-Book: > Lots of information available here... > http://www.rtvc-2000.com > When you visit ..enter to win a free Model 3.. 4hz & 100hz Blood Purifier > with built-in 30kc Zapper and Constant Current Colloidal Silver > Generator... Drawing to take place on April 20th/2001 > ********************************************************************** > Beck-e-Rife and Colloidal Silver Technology. > Subscribe to the New e-groups Topic in Alternative Health..click link below > BeckRife-ColloidalSilver_users > > **************************************************** > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 Hi Gail I guess it's nice to have the family home for the holidays but it sure sounds like a lot of work.. relief will come soon...Then you can start on the Beck Protocol again...What kind of a problem do you have with your magnetic pulser...Does it come on at all or is it dead....Best of wishes for the New Year. Alvin *************************************************** Check It Out! If you're looking for Blood purifiers, Zappers, Colloidal Silver Generators or E-Book information... on Beck--Rife-Colloidal Silver technology...... Feel free to visit: http://www.rtvc-2000.com/purifier.htm For E-Book: Lots of information available here... http://www.rtvc-2000.com When you visit ..enter to win a free Model 3.. 4hz & 100hz Blood Purifier with built-in 30kc Zapper and Constant Current Colloidal Silver Generator... Drawing to take place on April 20th/2001 ********************************************************************** Beck-e-Rife and Colloidal Silver Technology. Subscribe to the New e-groups Topic in Alternative Health..click link below BeckRife-ColloidalSilver_users **************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2001 Report Share Posted January 2, 2001 Hi all, Is anybody out there whi would have a pulser that could be borrowed or hired if necessary by a friend of mine in the USA while she waits for hers to be delivered. Apparently there is a 3 week delay with the pulsers. any help would be appreciated, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2001 Report Share Posted January 2, 2001 Hi Gail If your magnetic pulser is making a clicking sound it may be working ok..it may be the firing indicator lamp that's not working..try placing a steel washer on top of the coil 1/2 inch size..if the washer is projected away fron the coil when you hear the clicking sound the pulser is firing ok..Do not use a stainless steel or aluminum washer as it is not magnetic.. This will prove if it is working or not..Also jaguar has been having problems with the wire to the coil breaking in one location. This shouldn't be hard to repair..you need to join the wire and put some heat shrink tubing or insulate the join..Hope this helps you. Alvin *************************************************** Check It Out! If you're looking for Blood purifiers, Zappers, Colloidal Silver Generators or E-Book information... on Beck--Rife-Colloidal Silver technology...... Feel free to visit: http://www.rtvc-2000.com/purifier.htm For E-Book: Lots of information available here... http://www.rtvc-2000.com When you visit ..enter to win a free Model 3.. 4hz & 100hz Blood Purifier with built-in 30kc Zapper and Constant Current Colloidal Silver Generator... Drawing to take place on April 20th/2001 ********************************************************************** Beck-e-Rife and Colloidal Silver Technology. Subscribe to the New e-groups Topic in Alternative Health..click link below BeckRife-ColloidalSilver_users **************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 How do I know if the BE electrodes are placed correctly? I saw the Sota diagram, but it was real vague. << So if you aren't getting the results you think you should, it could be as simple a thing as getting the electrodes placed correctly. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 Hi , I agree with you about the Sota diagram being vague. Here are some pictures of electrode placement on wrists and ankles from the Jaguar site. Dotsie http://www.ioa.com/~dragonfly/hand.html http://www.ioa.com/~dragonfly/feet.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 Hi , has pictures for placement of the electrodes on his site. You'll have to search for it tho. There's so much information there. Gail Re: Beck protocol > How do I know if the BE electrodes are placed correctly? I saw the Sota > diagram, but it was real vague. > > > << So if you aren't > getting the results you think you should, it could be as simple a thing > as getting the electrodes placed correctly. >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 Dotsie, You're so good! You amaze me. You're organizational skills are truly a work of art or...... perhaps a gift from God. Gail Re: Beck protocol > Hi , > I agree with you about the Sota diagram being vague. Here are some pictures > of electrode placement on wrists and ankles from the Jaguar site. Dotsie > http://www.ioa.com/~dragonfly/hand.html > http://www.ioa.com/~dragonfly/feet.html > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 Hi the electrodes are placed on the wrist about 1.5 inches below the wrist bend on the small finger side...most people use one on each wrist and place the electrode up and down (parallel with the artery)..you can also use both electrodes on one wrist one on the small finger side and one on the thumb side especially if you wear a pacemaker or other problems. This would take longer but will work ok. A.R *************************************************** Check It Out! If you're looking for Blood purifiers, Zappers, Colloidal Silver Generators or E-Book information... on Beck--Rife-Colloidal Silver technology...... Feel free to visit: http://www.rtvc-2000.com/purifier.htm For E-Book: Lots of information available here... http://www.rtvc-2000.com When you visit ..enter to win a free Model 3.. 4hz & 100hz Blood Purifier with built-in 30kc Zapper and Constant Current Colloidal Silver Generator... Drawing to take place on April 20th/2001 ********************************************************************** Beck-e-Rife and Colloidal Silver Technology. Subscribe to the New e-groups Topic in Alternative Health..click link below BeckRife-ColloidalSilver_users **************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2004 Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 In a message dated 5/5/2004 9:09:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, theniece1@... writes: used to be on conventional medicine for diabetes and was given a prescription for high cholesterol but I was skeptical about the cholesterol drug. Hi , I will post some links below concerning the dangers of using statin drugs. Diabetes: http://www.keelynet.com/biology/cancdiab.txt Nail Fungus: http://askwaltstollmd.com/archives/toe.html Warts: http://natrhealth.com/skincare.html Super Tag Away Ear Infections: My daughter took my grandson to the doctor (traditional doctor) for an ear infection and told her to put drops of colloidal silver in his ear. She also put him on an antibiotic but we're making a little progress here. I make colloidal silver by the gallons and my daughter thought it was necessary to purchase it in the store because her doctor gave her a prescription for it, go figure. Statin Drugs - information posted on SymphonicHealth: LIPITOR,® THIEF OF MEMORY http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0741418819/masternewmedi/104-0848672-55 10327?dev-t=D291Y9X6FSA21J%26camp=2025%26link_code=xm2 Statin Drugs and the Misguided War On Cholesterol is an incredible book. A must read for anyone who is even remotely interested in how our sickness care, billed as health care, system works. Dr. Graveline, like many, obviously a very conscientious doctor, was suddenly faced with a number of dilemmas when he experienced transient global amnesia http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2003/12/05/statin_drugs_memory_loss.htm memory loss induced by Lipitor (one of the http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2003/11/07/bad_news_about_statin_drugs.h tm statin cholesterol lowering drugs). Interestingly http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2003/08/21/whats_a_little_cholesterol_am ongst_friends.htm the manufacturer even proclaims that there is no connection with its use to prevent heart disease or heart attacks yet the use of this useless drug continuers through slick marketing This short eminently readable work discusses, among other issues, what Transient Global Amnesia (TGA) is, how the statin drugs work, http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2004/01/29/cholesterol_does_not_cause_co ronary_heart_disease.htm the myth of the Cholesterol/Modified Low Fat Diet etc. of special interest is the role of cholesterol particularly in the brain. It is shown how statins can transverse the blood brain barrier and interfere with the normal functioning of the brain. This is most important in those who have a dramatic reduction when using statins ... " abrupt, major decreases of serum cholesterol from statin drug therapy should be taken more as a warning than as an indication of success, for cognitive side effects seemed more likely to occur in these cases. " ... Mention is made of a ... " recent http://www.courses.ahc.umn.edu/pharmacy/5822/PROSPER.html PROSPER trial published in Lancet, that statin therapy increased the incidence of http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2003/12/06/statin_drugs_breast_cancer.h tm cancer deaths , completely offsetting the SLIGHT decrease in deaths from cardiovascular disease and further complicating interpretation of reported benefits from statin therapy. " Not to mention http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0684804174/qid=1083684555/sr=1-6 /ref=sr_1_6__i6_xgl14/104-0848672-5510327?v=glance & s=books other significant side effects of liver/kidney damage, muscle pain/injury, http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2003/12/13/statin_drugs_coenzyme_q10_dep letion.htm Coenzyme 10 (CQ10) depletion essential for heart health and continued deficiency of http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2003/06/03/orthomolecular_solutions_to_h eart_disease.htm heart essential Vitamin Bs and other nutrients. Their is a cogent discussion between correlation of good diet and disease. This alone is worth the price of the book. No one, but no one, has ever had a drug deficiency yet our medical system continues to discourage the use of nutrients in lieu of generally toxic drugs! They never even look at the underlying causes which these drugs sadly mask - much to the detriment of the patient. Given the benefits of cholesterol lowering borders more on speculation then in fact http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0967089700/ref=pd_bxgy_img_2/104 -0848672-5510327?v=glance & s=books mostly from manipulated statistics) it is surprising that there is a need to reduce cholesterol at all. Yet both Drs. Graveline and Cohen (in the forward) still seem to feel the need to do so indicates how ingrained the cholesterol lowering mantra has taken hold in the medical community. Should your doctor suggest statins or for that matter any other cholesterol lowering drug just say " here take this (book) and call me in the morning.... " Gupta http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2004/05/05/lipitor_thief_of_memory.htm Dotsie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 In a message dated 5/7/2004 5:01:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, bobluhrs@... writes: Since I got into helping others with it, You can also subscribe to bG's " " list that discusses blood-electrification by going to: Subscribe:-subscribe Description: ......In our files are the results of almost 3 years of experiments. This is similar to, but appears to be stronger in effect than Beck, , et al, who did not apply the battery exactly as the doctors did. In altering it, they may have weakened it inadvertently, losing most of the effects. (If you didn't succeed with them, you may with this)....... Dotsie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 I've used the Beck protocol and did not lose weight. However, that goal is the least supported scientifically in Beck's work. (The microbial effects, like HIV reductions, were hard science-based with lab results in a medical college). He assumed microbes make you gain weight, maybe they made him gain, but recent data I saw and forgot about, says about 15% of obesity could be viral. I think, this is just my speculation, Beck got excited and busy, moved into high gear about saving the human race from all disease, and keeping the same diet he .. probably lost the weight. The rejuvenating effect of doing something that important must play a role in health, I would think. So..get excited about saving the world, put up a site, do research, get going on something that truly motivates a person, and possibly then they will lose some pounds? could work. Since I got into helping others with it, I lost 10 lbs, not by doing, but by getting highly interested and action. bG > Hi > I have also used the Beck protocol for the past two months and have > had similar results. I also have high blood sugar although not to > the diabetic stage and systemic candida infection. I also was > trying to lose weight as I am obese. Bob Beck reported losing over > 100 pounds on the protocol. > The first week I actually gained 6 pounds and in the two months > using it have not lost any weight. As far as the Candida I believe > there has been some improvement, as well as the fungal infection in > my toenail, but not eliminated. > Has anyone else tried using the Beck protocol for weight loss? > Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 " You can have a 100% cure for AIDS ... You can do it yourself, and it is cheap .... You will never have a cold again ... This is the best investment that you can make in your health ... And we guarantee it ... We have stacks of testimonials, hundreds of astounding spontaneous remissions, and we have medical records to prove it ... It will work. Not maybe .... It is the most valuable information that I have ever seen. It is the best that our science can offer today in the hospitals and clinics of America. [interview with Dr. Beck, 1997]. " A Proposed Experimental/Theoretical, Noninvasive, Non-Pharmaceutical, In Vivo Method for Rapid Neutralization of HIV Virus in Human Subjects. Revision March 13, 1996. Copyright 1991/95 by C. Beck, D.Sc. On Sun, 8 May 2005 09:27:44 -0700 (PDT), Sylvain Gagnon wrote > Eliot and , > please share this information about the Beck protocol > here, we can all learn from this. > Syl > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > Eliot: > > > > I'm looking for any weaknesses in the protocol. > > Perhaps if you drop me your phone number > > privately I can talk to you directly. > > > > > > > > On Sat, 7 May 2005 10:14:26 -0700, eseal2 wrote > > > Yes, , I did the whole thing for four years > > and like I said I was > > > able to stay in the OK zone, but I do so many > > therapies that I can't say > > > it was on thing or another that kept me there. I > > was also using the Beck > > > protocol when my cell counts dropped. Why are you > > asking, have your > > > tried it? > > > Eliot > > > > > > Re: The Story Such As It Is > > > > > > > > I'm interested in the OC Beck Protocol Study ... > > > > > > > > > > > > kevin@... > > > > > > > > On Thu, 5 May 2005 23:32:37 -0700 (PDT), Sylvain > > Gagnon wrote > > > > > Way to go, ! > > > > > That's what I am talking about. People sharing > > real > > > > > experiences with a deadly disease. > > > > > I was diagnosed last August with a viral load > > of > > > > > 68,000 and CD4 of 483 and went on a research > > as I > > > > > learned a long time ago not to trust Allopathy > > and saw > > > > > my ex-gf cure herself of cancer with > > macrobiotic in a > > > > > matter of months. > > > > > In September, I started with the Dr. Hulda > > 's > > > > > parasite programm (cloves, wormwood, balck > > walnut > > > > > hull) and all the supplements. In late > > October, I > > > > > switched to the Beck protocol, cutting all the > > > > > supplements but electrifying my blood daily, > > magnetic > > > > > pulser, colloidal silver and drinking ozonated > > water > > > > > with an ambiant air ozonator. The ozonator > > broke in > > > > > the beginning of December and did not get > > replaced > > > > > until late January. In mid January, I got > > another test > > > > > and my viral load was then 140,000, CD4: 423 > > but for > > > > > the first time of my life, I did not get a > > cold this > > > > > winter even though I felt very cold and walked > > under > > > > > the rain, not slept much; those conditions > > would have > > > > > made me sick normally but now, I feel > > invincible in a > > > > > way. The higher viral load was explained by > > some by > > > > > the fact that ozoned water is the dead virus > > scavenger > > > > > and the PCR test can not tell the difference > > between > > > > > dead or live viruses (explainded by Dr. > > Biamonte, > > > > > NY.). > > > > > Now, I am having another test at the end of > > May and > > > > > waiting for an Orange County study on the Beck > > > > > protocol and about to embark into the ozone > > therapy > > > > > with the help of . > > > > > Can someone else share at this level, please? > > > > > I am sorry if I asked Sara to leave, I guess > > the non > > > > > recognition of a deadly disease made me a bit > > too > > > > > reactive. > > > > > Have a great day! > > > > > --- Jovan <humansafe@...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Excerpt from the upcoming re-release of the > > best > > > > > > selling book by Ed McCabe entitled Flood > > Your Body > > > > > > With Oxygen > > > > > > > > > > > > All rights reserved, please do not > > distribute > > > > > > without explicit agreement from the writer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ozone, the Observer of Human Ego > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > “There’s no better way to describe the > > power of > > > > > > medical ozone than relating my experiences > > with > > > > > > Festus, an African man who was dying of full > > blown > > > === message truncated === > > Musically yours, > Sylvain Gagnon > www.sylvaingagnon.net > info@... > > > __________________________________ > Mobile > Take with you! Check email on your mobile phone. > http://mobile./learn/mail > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 , the only problem is that Eliot and I have been on the Beck protocol and both of us have experienced a jump in our viral load, especially me, from 68k to 140k. I must admit that I don't get sick anymore but this is far from being HIV negative, which is what claimed Bob Beck. Sara, I am presently reading the book WHAT IF EVERYTHING YOU THOUGHT YOU KNEW ABOUT AIDS WAS WRONG? So I will understand better what you are talking about but not necessarily agree, we'll see when I am done with it. Syl --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > " You can have a 100% cure for AIDS ... You can do it > yourself, and it is cheap ... You will never > have a cold again ... This is the best investment > that you can make in your health ... And we > guarantee it ... We have stacks of testimonials, > hundreds of astounding spontaneous > remissions, and we have medical records to prove it > ... It will work. Not maybe ... It is the > most valuable information that I have ever seen. It > is the best that our science can offer > today in the hospitals and clinics of America. > [interview with Dr. Beck, 1997]. " > > > A Proposed Experimental/Theoretical, Noninvasive, > Non-Pharmaceutical, In Vivo Method for > Rapid Neutralization of HIV Virus in Human Subjects. > Revision March 13, 1996. Copyright > 1991/95 by C. Beck, D.Sc. > > On Sun, 8 May 2005 09:27:44 -0700 (PDT), Sylvain > Gagnon wrote > > Eliot and , > > please share this information about the Beck > protocol > > here, we can all learn from this. > > Syl > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > Eliot: > > > > > > I'm looking for any weaknesses in the protocol. > > > Perhaps if you drop me your phone number > > > privately I can talk to you directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 7 May 2005 10:14:26 -0700, eseal2 wrote > > > > Yes, , I did the whole thing for four > years > > > and like I said I was > > > > able to stay in the OK zone, but I do so many > > > therapies that I can't say > > > > it was on thing or another that kept me there. > I > > > was also using the Beck > > > > protocol when my cell counts dropped. Why are > you > > > asking, have your > > > > tried it? > > > > Eliot > > > > > > > > Re: The Story Such As > It Is > > > > > > > > > > I'm interested in the OC Beck Protocol Study > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kevin@... > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 5 May 2005 23:32:37 -0700 (PDT), > Sylvain > > > Gagnon wrote > > > > > > Way to go, ! > > > > > > That's what I am talking about. People > sharing > > > real > > > > > > experiences with a deadly disease. > > > > > > I was diagnosed last August with a viral > load > > > of > > > > > > 68,000 and CD4 of 483 and went on a > research > > > as I > > > > > > learned a long time ago not to trust > Allopathy > > > and saw > > > > > > my ex-gf cure herself of cancer with > > > macrobiotic in a > > > > > > matter of months. > > > > > > In September, I started with the Dr. Hulda > > > 's > > > > > > parasite programm (cloves, wormwood, balck > > > walnut > > > > > > hull) and all the supplements. In late > > > October, I > > > > > > switched to the Beck protocol, cutting all > the > > > > > > supplements but electrifying my blood > daily, > > > magnetic > > > > > > pulser, colloidal silver and drinking > ozonated > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... Discover Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover./weekend.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 , I have been out of town, but would be glad to discuss Beck's. Call me toll free at 925 288 0450. I can call you back as I have unlimited long distance. ' Thanks, Eliot Re: The Story Such As It Is > > > > > > > > I'm interested in the OC Beck Protocol Study ... > > > > > > > > > > > > kevin@... > > > > > > > > On Thu, 5 May 2005 23:32:37 -0700 (PDT), Sylvain > > Gagnon wrote > > > > > Way to go, ! > > > > > That's what I am talking about. People sharing > > real > > > > > experiences with a deadly disease. > > > > > I was diagnosed last August with a viral load > > of > > > > > 68,000 and CD4 of 483 and went on a research > > as I > > > > > learned a long time ago not to trust Allopathy > > and saw > > > > > my ex-gf cure herself of cancer with > > macrobiotic in a > > > > > matter of months. > > > > > In September, I started with the Dr. Hulda > > 's > > > > > parasite programm (cloves, wormwood, balck > > walnut > > > > > hull) and all the supplements. In late > > October, I > > > > > switched to the Beck protocol, cutting all the > > > > > supplements but electrifying my blood daily, > > magnetic > > > > > pulser, colloidal silver and drinking ozonated > > water > > > > > with an ambiant air ozonator. The ozonator > > broke in > > > > > the beginning of December and did not get > > replaced > > > > > until late January. In mid January, I got > > another test > > > > > and my viral load was then 140,000, CD4: 423 > > but for > > > > > the first time of my life, I did not get a > > cold this > > > > > winter even though I felt very cold and walked > > under > > > > > the rain, not slept much; those conditions > > would have > > > > > made me sick normally but now, I feel > > invincible in a > > > > > way. The higher viral load was explained by > > some by > > > > > the fact that ozoned water is the dead virus > > scavenger > > > > > and the PCR test can not tell the difference > > between > > > > > dead or live viruses (explainded by Dr. > > Biamonte, > > > > > NY.). > > > > > Now, I am having another test at the end of > > May and > > > > > waiting for an Orange County study on the Beck > > > > > protocol and about to embark into the ozone > > therapy > > > > > with the help of . > > > > > Can someone else share at this level, please? > > > > > I am sorry if I asked Sara to leave, I guess > > the non > > > > > recognition of a deadly disease made me a bit > > too > > > > > reactive. > > > > > Have a great day! > > > > > --- Jovan <humansafe@...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Excerpt from the upcoming re-release of the > > best > > > > > > selling book by Ed McCabe entitled Flood > > Your Body > > > > > > With Oxygen > > > > > > > > > > > > All rights reserved, please do not > > distribute > > > > > > without explicit agreement from the writer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ozone, the Observer of Human Ego > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > “There’s no better way to describe the > > power of > > > > > > medical ozone than relating my experiences > > with > > > > > > Festus, an African man who was dying of full > > blown > > > === message truncated === > > Musically yours, > Sylvain Gagnon > www.sylvaingagnon.net > info@... > > > __________________________________ > Mobile > Take with you! Check email on your mobile phone. > http://mobile./learn/mail > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Eliot, how long have you been on the Beck protocol? Did you check your viral load and Tcells count before and at different intervals while doing the protocol? If yes, would you share with us your results? Did you ever meet someone who managed to reverse his condition to HIV negative using it? How much colloidal silver do you dring daily? How many glasses of ozonated water do you drink daily and do you use a medical grade or an ambiant air ozonator? If it is an ambiant air ozonator, is it a cold corona or an UV model? Thanks. Sylvain --- eseal2@... wrote: > , > > I have been out of town, but would be glad to > discuss Beck's. Call me > toll free at 925 288 0450. I can call you back as I > have unlimited long > distance. ' > > Thanks, > Eliot > > Re: The Story Such As > It Is > > > > > > > > > > I'm interested in the OC Beck Protocol Study > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kevin@... > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 5 May 2005 23:32:37 -0700 (PDT), > Sylvain > > > Gagnon wrote > > > > > > Way to go, ! > > > > > > That's what I am talking about. People > sharing > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... __________________________________ Mobile Take with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile./learn/mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Syl, There is information on ozone spiking viral loads initially. In fact a more close analysis of Bob Becks lectures and he will tell his protocol does this. Spiking viral loads is also noted in Ed MCCabes " Flood Your Body With Oxygen. " Aids Remission also speaks of spiking viral loads in their website which don't use ozone. Perhaps you should listen closely to Mullis on the issue of the PCR viral load, and maybe he can quelch some of your fears. On Mon, 9 May 2005 07:04:19 -0700 (PDT), Sylvain Gagnon wrote > , > the only problem is that Eliot and I have been on the > Beck protocol and both of us have experienced a jump > in our viral load, especially me, from 68k to 140k. I > must admit that I don't get sick anymore but this is > far from being HIV negative, which is what claimed Bob > Beck. > Sara, I am presently reading the book WHAT IF > EVERYTHING YOU THOUGHT YOU KNEW ABOUT AIDS WAS WRONG? > So I will understand better what you are talking about > but not necessarily agree, we'll see when I am done > with it. > Syl > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > " You can have a 100% cure for AIDS ... You can do it > > yourself, and it is cheap ... You will never > > have a cold again ... This is the best investment > > that you can make in your health ... And we > > guarantee it ... We have stacks of testimonials, > > hundreds of astounding spontaneous > > remissions, and we have medical records to prove it > > ... It will work. Not maybe ... It is the > > most valuable information that I have ever seen. It > > is the best that our science can offer > > today in the hospitals and clinics of America. > > [interview with Dr. Beck, 1997]. " > > > > > > A Proposed Experimental/Theoretical, Noninvasive, > > Non-Pharmaceutical, In Vivo Method for > > Rapid Neutralization of HIV Virus in Human Subjects. > > Revision March 13, 1996. Copyright > > 1991/95 by C. Beck, D.Sc. > > > > On Sun, 8 May 2005 09:27:44 -0700 (PDT), Sylvain > > Gagnon wrote > > > Eliot and , > > > please share this information about the Beck > > protocol > > > here, we can all learn from this. > > > Syl > > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Eliot: > > > > > > > > I'm looking for any weaknesses in the protocol. > > > > Perhaps if you drop me your phone number > > > > privately I can talk to you directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 7 May 2005 10:14:26 -0700, eseal2 wrote > > > > > Yes, , I did the whole thing for four > > years > > > > and like I said I was > > > > > able to stay in the OK zone, but I do so many > > > > therapies that I can't say > > > > > it was on thing or another that kept me there. > > I > > > > was also using the Beck > > > > > protocol when my cell counts dropped. Why are > > you > > > > asking, have your > > > > > tried it? > > > > > Eliot > > > > > > > > > > Re: The Story Such As > > It Is > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm interested in the OC Beck Protocol Study > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kevin@... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 5 May 2005 23:32:37 -0700 (PDT), > > Sylvain > > > > Gagnon wrote > > > > > > > Way to go, ! > > > > > > > That's what I am talking about. People > > sharing > > > > real > > > > > > > experiences with a deadly disease. > > > > > > > I was diagnosed last August with a viral > > load > > > > of > > > > > > > 68,000 and CD4 of 483 and went on a > > research > > > > as I > > > > > > > learned a long time ago not to trust > > Allopathy > > > > and saw > > > > > > > my ex-gf cure herself of cancer with > > > > macrobiotic in a > > > > > > > matter of months. > > > > > > > In September, I started with the Dr. Hulda > > > > 's > > > > > > > parasite programm (cloves, wormwood, balck > > > > walnut > > > > > > > hull) and all the supplements. In late > > > > October, I > > > > > > > switched to the Beck protocol, cutting all > > the > > > > > > > supplements but electrifying my blood > > daily, > > > > magnetic > > > > > > > pulser, colloidal silver and drinking > > ozonated > > > === message truncated === > > Musically yours, > Sylvain Gagnon > www.sylvaingagnon.net > info@... > > > Discover > Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! > http://discover./weekend.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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