Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Dear , did you become HIV negative yourself with the Beck protocol or do you know someone who did? We are 2 of us on this group who have tried it and it did not work for us, although I am never sick anymore, not even a cold. Please share your personal experience or someone's you know. Thanks, Sylvain --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > Syl, > > There is information on ozone spiking viral loads > initially. In fact a more close analysis of Bob > Becks lectures and he will tell his protocol does > this. Spiking viral loads is also noted in Ed > MCCabes " Flood Your Body With Oxygen. " Aids > Remission also speaks of spiking viral loads in > their website which don't use ozone. Perhaps you > should listen closely to Mullis on the issue > of the PCR viral load, and maybe he can quelch some > of your fears. > > > > On Mon, 9 May 2005 07:04:19 -0700 (PDT), Sylvain > Gagnon wrote > > , > > the only problem is that Eliot and I have been on > the > > Beck protocol and both of us have experienced a > jump > > in our viral load, especially me, from 68k to > 140k. I > > must admit that I don't get sick anymore but this > is > > far from being HIV negative, which is what claimed > Bob > > Beck. > > Sara, I am presently reading the book WHAT IF > > EVERYTHING YOU THOUGHT YOU KNEW ABOUT AIDS WAS > WRONG? > > So I will understand better what you are talking > about > > but not necessarily agree, we'll see when I am > done > > with it. > > Syl > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > " You can have a 100% cure for AIDS ... You can > do it > > > yourself, and it is cheap ... You will never > > > have a cold again ... This is the best > investment > > > that you can make in your health ... And we > > > guarantee it ... We have stacks of testimonials, > > > hundreds of astounding spontaneous > > > remissions, and we have medical records to prove > it > > > ... It will work. Not maybe ... It is the > > > most valuable information that I have ever seen. > It > > > is the best that our science can offer > > > today in the hospitals and clinics of America. > > > [interview with Dr. Beck, 1997]. " > > > > > > > > > A Proposed Experimental/Theoretical, > Noninvasive, > > > Non-Pharmaceutical, In Vivo Method for > > > Rapid Neutralization of HIV Virus in Human > Subjects. > > > Revision March 13, 1996. Copyright > > > 1991/95 by C. Beck, D.Sc. > > > > > > On Sun, 8 May 2005 09:27:44 -0700 (PDT), Sylvain > > > Gagnon wrote > > > > Eliot and , > > > > please share this information about the Beck > > > protocol > > > > here, we can all learn from this. > > > > Syl > > > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Eliot: > > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for any weaknesses in the > protocol. > > > > > Perhaps if you drop me your phone number > > > > > privately I can talk to you directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 7 May 2005 10:14:26 -0700, eseal2 > wrote > > > > > > Yes, , I did the whole thing for four > > > years > > > > > and like I said I was > > > > > > able to stay in the OK zone, but I do so > many > > > > > therapies that I can't say > > > > > > it was on thing or another that kept me > there. > > > I > > > > > was also using the Beck > > > > > > protocol when my cell counts dropped. Why > are > > > you > > > > > asking, have your > > > > > > tried it? > > > > > > Eliot > > > > > > > > > > > > RE: The Story Such As > It > > > Is > > > > > > > > > > > > Eliot: > > > > > > > > > > > > The Beck protocol is a 45 to 90 day > protocol > > > using > > > > > 1) Magnetic Pulser, > > > > > > 2) Silver Pulser 3) > > > > > > ozonated water and 4) Colloidal Silver. > Have > > > you > > > > > done a full Beck > > > > > > protocol for this duration? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:19:10 -0700, eseal2 > > > wrote > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used the Beck Protocol for about four > > > years, > > > > > every day. MyCD4 > > > > > > bounced > > > > > > > from 300 to 400 and viral load from 20 > to 80 > > > > > thousand. At the end of > > > > > > > four year period I suffered a hard > winter > > > with a > > > > > respiratory virus and > > > > > > a > > > > > > > couple of stomach viruses. I began to > get KS > > > > > outbreaks and CD4 dropped > > > > > > > to 230 (but viral load was only 10 > thousand > > > go > > > > > figure) and have > > > > > > recently > > > > > > > returned to 250 and viral load 30 > thousand. > > > I am > > > > > using various herb, > > > > > > > powdered mushroom and anti herpes type > > > therapies > > > > > and definitely > > > > > > > improving. If I can't get my cell count > up > > > to > > > > > above 300 again, I am > > > > > > > considering using the antiviral > (poisons), > > > but > > > > > only for a year or so > > > > > > > until I get the CD4 up. I still use the > > > silver > > > > > pulse occasionally > > > > > > after > > > > > > > rebound exercise. I can't tell you if > Dr. > > > Beck > > > > > silver pulser was the > > > > > > > reason I maintained a good cell count > for > > > all > > > > > those years as I use a > > > > > > > number of different alternatives from > herbs, > > > > > nutritional supplements, > > > > > > > acupuncture to homeopathic. I can > directly > > > > > relate my decline to a > > > > > > > stressful period in my life and a series > of > > > > > unfortunate illnesses. I > > > > > > > have however heard of others who have > > > > > experienced high viral load > > > > > > > associated with Beck's deal. My answer > > > doesn't > > > > > really validate or > > > > > > > invalidate the it. I too would like to > hear > > > from > > > > > others who have tried > > > > > > > the silver pulser---their successes or > > > failures. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think HIV is not the real culprit and > that > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... __________________________________ Mobile Take with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile./learn/mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 I've had four years experience using it and it may have helped me, but I did fatigue of the protocol and all it involves including wearing a zapper on hour every day. I did get sick on while using it, but my cell counts remained over 300 w/o meds. I have started using it again as I have dropped tcell count down to 230. I do many different alternative and supplemental things so you cant apply my success to any one thing. What experiences has any one else had to share. By the way sickness is a good thing. It is your body's way of processing a lot of bad things. People with cancer and AIDS seldom get colds because the antibody side of the immune system is so elevated that they don't developed symptoms. Cold are actually good thing. A sign your immune system is working, just like a fever. It's good to learn about the TH1 and TH2 sides of the immune system. People with elevated TH2 won't get a cold but are likely to develop AIDS or Cancer. Be Well, Eliot RE: The Story Such As > It > > > Is > > > > > > > > > > > > Eliot: > > > > > > > > > > > > The Beck protocol is a 45 to 90 day > protocol > > > using > > > > > 1) Magnetic Pulser, > > > > > > 2) Silver Pulser 3) > > > > > > ozonated water and 4) Colloidal Silver. > Have > > > you > > > > > done a full Beck > > > > > > protocol for this duration? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:19:10 -0700, eseal2 > > > wrote > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used the Beck Protocol for about four > > > years, > > > > > every day. MyCD4 > > > > > > bounced > > > > > > > from 300 to 400 and viral load from 20 > to 80 > > > > > thousand. At the end of > > > > > > > four year period I suffered a hard > winter > > > with a > > > > > respiratory virus and > > > > > > a > > > > > > > couple of stomach viruses. I began to > get KS > > > > > outbreaks and CD4 dropped > > > > > > > to 230 (but viral load was only 10 > thousand > > > go > > > > > figure) and have > > > > > > recently > > > > > > > returned to 250 and viral load 30 > thousand. > > > I am > > > > > using various herb, > > > > > > > powdered mushroom and anti herpes type > > > therapies > > > > > and definitely > > > > > > > improving. If I can't get my cell count > up > > > to > > > > > above 300 again, I am > > > > > > > considering using the antiviral > (poisons), > > > but > > > > > only for a year or so > > > > > > > until I get the CD4 up. I still use the > > > silver > > > > > pulse occasionally > > > > > > after > > > > > > > rebound exercise. I can't tell you if > Dr. > > > Beck > > > > > silver pulser was the > > > > > > > reason I maintained a good cell count > for > > > all > > > > > those years as I use a > > > > > > > number of different alternatives from > herbs, > > > > > nutritional supplements, > > > > > > > acupuncture to homeopathic. I can > directly > > > > > relate my decline to a > > > > > > > stressful period in my life and a series > of > > > > > unfortunate illnesses. I > > > > > > > have however heard of others who have > > > > > experienced high viral load > > > > > > > associated with Beck's deal. My answer > > > doesn't > > > > > really validate or > > > > > > > invalidate the it. I too would like to > hear > > > from > > > > > others who have tried > > > > > > > the silver pulser---their successes or > > > failures. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think HIV is not the real culprit and > that > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... __________________________________ Mobile Take with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile./learn/mail Read AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Actually, the protocol requires a minimum of 2 hours of Blood electrification, 20 minutes of Magnetic Pulser Generation over your lymphs nodes, stomach, drinking a few glasses of ozonated water and some colloidal silver every day. It should last 3-6 weeks at this intensity. If you did not do all that, you were not really on the full Beck Protocol so you can not expect it to fully work as claimed. I did all that for a few months and now, just doing it sporadically but I still feel great. Planning to do it again with rectal insufflation of ozone and a raw food diet following a 10 days fast drinking only distilled water to which will be added lime, cayenne pepper and maple syrup. Trying to gather all the discipline I can before I start, lol. Discipline is the most difficult thing in the world for me. Sylvain --- eseal2@... wrote: > I've had four years experience using it and it may > have helped me, but I > did fatigue of the protocol and all it involves > including wearing a > zapper on hour every day. I did get sick on while > using it, but my cell > counts remained over 300 w/o meds. I have started > using it again as I > have dropped tcell count down to 230. I do many > different alternative > and supplemental things so you cant apply my success > to any one thing. > What experiences has any one else had to share. > > By the way sickness is a good thing. It is your > body's way of processing > a lot of bad things. People with cancer and AIDS > seldom get colds > because the antibody side of the immune system is so > elevated that they > don't developed symptoms. Cold are actually good > thing. A sign your > immune system is working, just like a fever. It's > good to learn about > the TH1 and TH2 sides of the immune system. People > with elevated TH2 > won't get a cold but are likely to develop AIDS or > Cancer. > > Be Well, > Eliot > > RE: The Story Such > As > > It > > > > Is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eliot: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Beck protocol is a 45 to 90 day > > protocol > > > > using > > > > > > 1) Magnetic Pulser, > > > > > > > 2) Silver Pulser 3) > > > > > > > ozonated water and 4) Colloidal Silver. > > Have > > > > you > > > > > > done a full Beck > > > > > > > protocol for this duration? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:19:10 -0700, > eseal2 > > > > wrote > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used the Beck Protocol for about > four > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail./mailtour.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Discipline is hard for all of us. Keeping in mind this isn't the only thing going on in our lives. I have heard several versions of the protocol and even a different one from the researcher at Sota the manufacture of the equipment. Please don't invalidate my experience. I did enough of it to tell you it helped. Electricity is energy and it does make you feel better. But I still haven't heard any one who sero converted. Are you monitoring yourself with lab results. I still think it has some value in a protocol of other thing to support the immune system. Be Well, Eliot RE: The Story Such > As > > It > > > > Is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eliot: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Beck protocol is a 45 to 90 day > > protocol > > > > using > > > > > > 1) Magnetic Pulser, > > > > > > > 2) Silver Pulser 3) > > > > > > > ozonated water and 4) Colloidal Silver. > > Have > > > > you > > > > > > done a full Beck > > > > > > > protocol for this duration? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 6 May 2005 17:19:10 -0700, > eseal2 > > > > wrote > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used the Beck Protocol for about > four > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail./mailtour.html Read AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Yes Elliot, I go for tests every 4 months and my next test is scheduled for May31st with the results will come mid July. I live in Hong Kong and they send the tests in the USA. Too bad about the Beck protocol, so many of us were hoping that it worked. Anyway, I am pretty confident that combined with Jovan's medical grade ozone protocol, that will work. He showed me some lab results of people who's condition reversed to HIV negative with ozone only. I will meet him in June, will keep in touch about my progress. For the time being, I have been adding 2-4 tea spoons of cold pressed virgin coconut oil to my protocol as well as flax oil. I stopped taking supplements when I started on the Beck protocol. Once in a while, I will take a few cloves, black wlanut hull and wormwood capsules as suggested in the Dr. Hulda 's parasite programm. I am curious to see if the coconut oil will have made any difference. I just came back from the philippines where I bought a few bottles of it. Good luck, Sylvain --- eseal2@... wrote: > Discipline is hard for all of us. Keeping in mind > this isn't the only > thing going on in our lives. I have heard several > versions of the > protocol and even a different one from the > researcher at Sota the > manufacture of the equipment. Please don't > invalidate my experience. I > did enough of it to tell you it helped. Electricity > is energy and it > does make you feel better. But I still haven't heard > any one who sero > converted. Are you monitoring yourself with lab > results. I still think > it has some value in a protocol of other thing to > support the immune > system. > Be Well, > Eliot > > Re: Beck Protocol > > > > > > Dear , > > did you become HIV negative yourself with the Beck > > protocol or do you know someone who did? > > We are 2 of us on this group who have tried it and > > it > > did not work for us, although I am never sick > > anymore, > > not even a cold. > > Please share your personal experience or someone's > > you > > know. > > Thanks, > > Sylvain > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > Syl, > > > > > > There is information on ozone spiking viral > loads > > > initially. In fact a more close analysis of Bob > > > > Becks lectures and he will tell his protocol > does > > > this. Spiking viral loads is also noted in Ed > > > MCCabes " Flood Your Body With Oxygen. " Aids > > > Remission also speaks of spiking viral loads in > > > their website which don't use ozone. Perhaps > you > > > should listen closely to Mullis on the issue > > > of the PCR viral load, and maybe he can quelch > > some > > > of your fears. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 9 May 2005 07:04:19 -0700 (PDT), Sylvain > > > Gagnon wrote > > > > , > > > > the only problem is that Eliot and I have been > > on > > > the > > > > Beck protocol and both of us have experienced > a > > > jump > > > > in our viral load, especially me, from 68k to > > > 140k. I > > > > must admit that I don't get sick anymore but > > this > > > is > > > > far from being HIV negative, which is what > > claimed > > > Bob > > > > Beck. > > > > Sara, I am presently reading the book WHAT IF > > > > EVERYTHING YOU THOUGHT YOU KNEW ABOUT AIDS WAS > > > WRONG? > > > > So I will understand better what you are > talking > > > about > > > > but not necessarily agree, we'll see when I am > > > done > > > > with it. > > > > Syl > > > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > " You can have a 100% cure for AIDS ... You > can > > > do it > > > > > yourself, and it is cheap ... You will never > > > > > > have a cold again ... This is the best > > > investment > > > > > that you can make in your health ... And we > > > > > guarantee it ... We have stacks of > > testimonials, > > > > > hundreds of astounding spontaneous > > > > > remissions, and we have medical records to > > prove > > > it > > > > > ... It will work. Not maybe ... It is the > > > > > most valuable information that I have ever > > seen. > > > It > > > > > is the best that our science can offer > > > > > today in the hospitals and clinics of > America. > > > > > [interview with Dr. Beck, 1997]. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Proposed Experimental/Theoretical, > > > Noninvasive, > > > > > Non-Pharmaceutical, In Vivo Method for > > > > > Rapid Neutralization of HIV Virus in Human > > > Subjects. > > > > > Revision March 13, 1996. Copyright > > > > > 1991/95 by C. Beck, D.Sc. > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 8 May 2005 09:27:44 -0700 (PDT), > > Sylvain > > > > > Gagnon wrote > > > > > > Eliot and , > > > > > > please share this information about the > Beck > > > > > protocol > > > > > > here, we can all learn from this. > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Good Luck Sylvain, And please do share your results. I have heard of some antiviral effect with the coconut oil, but also heard it helps but doesn't rid the problem. I also knew of one person who went to Germany for ozone long before the cocktails came out and died, but he was far along in disease progression. I have been very successful for many years using a variety of alternatives. It seams for some, alternative can keep them healthy and for some it doesn't work, but in any case the alternatives can increase the quality and probably length of life which is what we want. Right? As for not doing supplements while doing Beck's. This is not correct. There is a theory and only a theory that the cells become more permeable while the current is going through the blood that they could be saturated with any substance in the body. By theory it is true, but there have been no real cases reported. It is supposedly called " electosporalisis " or something like that. I am now jumping on a rebounder and using the colodial silver and Beck's pulsar every other day. Be Well, Eliot Re: Beck Protocol > > > > > > Dear , > > did you become HIV negative yourself with the Beck > > protocol or do you know someone who did? > > We are 2 of us on this group who have tried it and > > it > > did not work for us, although I am never sick > > anymore, > > not even a cold. > > Please share your personal experience or someone's > > you > > know. > > Thanks, > > Sylvain > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > Syl, > > > > > > There is information on ozone spiking viral > loads > > > initially. In fact a more close analysis of Bob > > > > Becks lectures and he will tell his protocol > does > > > this. Spiking viral loads is also noted in Ed > > > MCCabes " Flood Your Body With Oxygen. " Aids > > > Remission also speaks of spiking viral loads in > > > their website which don't use ozone. Perhaps > you > > > should listen closely to Mullis on the issue > > > of the PCR viral load, and maybe he can quelch > > some > > > of your fears. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 9 May 2005 07:04:19 -0700 (PDT), Sylvain > > > Gagnon wrote > > > > , > > > > the only problem is that Eliot and I have been > > on > > > the > > > > Beck protocol and both of us have experienced > a > > > jump > > > > in our viral load, especially me, from 68k to > > > 140k. I > > > > must admit that I don't get sick anymore but > > this > > > is > > > > far from being HIV negative, which is what > > claimed > > > Bob > > > > Beck. > > > > Sara, I am presently reading the book WHAT IF > > > > EVERYTHING YOU THOUGHT YOU KNEW ABOUT AIDS WAS > > > WRONG? > > > > So I will understand better what you are > talking > > > about > > > > but not necessarily agree, we'll see when I am > > > done > > > > with it. > > > > Syl > > > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > " You can have a 100% cure for AIDS ... You > can > > > do it > > > > > yourself, and it is cheap ... You will never > > > > > > have a cold again ... This is the best > > > investment > > > > > that you can make in your health ... And we > > > > > guarantee it ... We have stacks of > > testimonials, > > > > > hundreds of astounding spontaneous > > > > > remissions, and we have medical records to > > prove > > > it > > > > > ... It will work. Not maybe ... It is the > > > > > most valuable information that I have ever > > seen. > > > It > > > > > is the best that our science can offer > > > > > today in the hospitals and clinics of > America. > > > > > [interview with Dr. Beck, 1997]. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Proposed Experimental/Theoretical, > > > Noninvasive, > > > > > Non-Pharmaceutical, In Vivo Method for > > > > > Rapid Neutralization of HIV Virus in Human > > > Subjects. > > > > > Revision March 13, 1996. Copyright > > > > > 1991/95 by C. Beck, D.Sc. > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 8 May 2005 09:27:44 -0700 (PDT), > > Sylvain > > > > > Gagnon wrote > > > > > > Eliot and , > > > > > > please share this information about the > Beck > > > > > protocol > > > > > > here, we can all learn from this. > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 I also wanted to say, Why are you taking flax oil? Fish oil is probably better. Do you have high triglycerides? Re: Beck Protocol > > > > > > Dear , > > did you become HIV negative yourself with the Beck > > protocol or do you know someone who did? > > We are 2 of us on this group who have tried it and > > it > > did not work for us, although I am never sick > > anymore, > > not even a cold. > > Please share your personal experience or someone's > > you > > know. > > Thanks, > > Sylvain > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > Syl, > > > > > > There is information on ozone spiking viral > loads > > > initially. In fact a more close analysis of Bob > > > > Becks lectures and he will tell his protocol > does > > > this. Spiking viral loads is also noted in Ed > > > MCCabes " Flood Your Body With Oxygen. " Aids > > > Remission also speaks of spiking viral loads in > > > their website which don't use ozone. Perhaps > you > > > should listen closely to Mullis on the issue > > > of the PCR viral load, and maybe he can quelch > > some > > > of your fears. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 9 May 2005 07:04:19 -0700 (PDT), Sylvain > > > Gagnon wrote > > > > , > > > > the only problem is that Eliot and I have been > > on > > > the > > > > Beck protocol and both of us have experienced > a > > > jump > > > > in our viral load, especially me, from 68k to > > > 140k. I > > > > must admit that I don't get sick anymore but > > this > > > is > > > > far from being HIV negative, which is what > > claimed > > > Bob > > > > Beck. > > > > Sara, I am presently reading the book WHAT IF > > > > EVERYTHING YOU THOUGHT YOU KNEW ABOUT AIDS WAS > > > WRONG? > > > > So I will understand better what you are > talking > > > about > > > > but not necessarily agree, we'll see when I am > > > done > > > > with it. > > > > Syl > > > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > " You can have a 100% cure for AIDS ... You > can > > > do it > > > > > yourself, and it is cheap ... You will never > > > > > > have a cold again ... This is the best > > > investment > > > > > that you can make in your health ... And we > > > > > guarantee it ... We have stacks of > > testimonials, > > > > > hundreds of astounding spontaneous > > > > > remissions, and we have medical records to > > prove > > > it > > > > > ... It will work. Not maybe ... It is the > > > > > most valuable information that I have ever > > seen. > > > It > > > > > is the best that our science can offer > > > > > today in the hospitals and clinics of > America. > > > > > [interview with Dr. Beck, 1997]. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Proposed Experimental/Theoretical, > > > Noninvasive, > > > > > Non-Pharmaceutical, In Vivo Method for > > > > > Rapid Neutralization of HIV Virus in Human > > > Subjects. > > > > > Revision March 13, 1996. Copyright > > > > > 1991/95 by C. Beck, D.Sc. > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 8 May 2005 09:27:44 -0700 (PDT), > > Sylvain > > > > > Gagnon wrote > > > > > > Eliot and , > > > > > > please share this information about the > Beck > > > > > protocol > > > > > > here, we can all learn from this. > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 I don't think I have high trigycerides but I read a few reports that Flax oil was the best Omega3 provider and also it fits my vegetarian diet better than fish oil. I have been vegetarian for 22 years. I have one swollened lymph node and did not try rebounding yet. Did it get rid of the swelling in your lymph nodes? Sylvain --- eseal2@... wrote: > I also wanted to say, Why are you taking flax oil? > Fish oil is probably > better. Do you have high triglycerides? > > Re: Beck Protocol > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > did you become HIV negative yourself with the > Beck > > > protocol or do you know someone who did? > > > We are 2 of us on this group who have tried it > and > > > it > > > did not work for us, although I am never sick > > > anymore, > > > not even a cold. > > > Please share your personal experience or > someone's > > > you > > > know. > > > Thanks, > > > Sylvain > > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Syl, > > > > > > > > There is information on ozone spiking viral > > loads > > > > initially. In fact a more close analysis of > Bob > > > > > > Becks lectures and he will tell his protocol > > does > > > > this. Spiking viral loads is also noted in Ed > > > > > MCCabes " Flood Your Body With Oxygen. " Aids > > > > Remission also speaks of spiking viral loads > in > > > > their website which don't use ozone. Perhaps > > you > > > > should listen closely to Mullis on the issue > > > > of the PCR viral load, and maybe he can quelch > > > some > > > > of your fears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 9 May 2005 07:04:19 -0700 (PDT), > Sylvain > > > > Gagnon wrote > > > > > , > > > > > the only problem is that Eliot and I have > been > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... Discover Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover./online.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Actually, rebounding can increase the swelling for a while as it dumps the toxins out of the lymphs and into the blood stream and then later the swelling will go away. If there is one swollen lymph you can use the magnetic pulsar on it. This is what it is for. Supposedly it will pull the junk out. Eliot Re: Beck Protocol > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > did you become HIV negative yourself with the > Beck > > > protocol or do you know someone who did? > > > We are 2 of us on this group who have tried it > and > > > it > > > did not work for us, although I am never sick > > > anymore, > > > not even a cold. > > > Please share your personal experience or > someone's > > > you > > > know. > > > Thanks, > > > Sylvain > > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Syl, > > > > > > > > There is information on ozone spiking viral > > loads > > > > initially. In fact a more close analysis of > Bob > > > > > > Becks lectures and he will tell his protocol > > does > > > > this. Spiking viral loads is also noted in Ed > > > > > MCCabes " Flood Your Body With Oxygen. " Aids > > > > Remission also speaks of spiking viral loads > in > > > > their website which don't use ozone. Perhaps > > you > > > > should listen closely to Mullis on the issue > > > > of the PCR viral load, and maybe he can quelch > > > some > > > > of your fears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 9 May 2005 07:04:19 -0700 (PDT), > Sylvain > > > > Gagnon wrote > > > > > , > > > > > the only problem is that Eliot and I have > been > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... Discover Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover./online.html Read AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Also, Sylvain, the swelling in the lymph nodes is more likely Human Herpies 6A not HIV. Visit the website keephopealive.org to learn about it. Eliot Re: Beck Protocol > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > did you become HIV negative yourself with the > Beck > > > protocol or do you know someone who did? > > > We are 2 of us on this group who have tried it > and > > > it > > > did not work for us, although I am never sick > > > anymore, > > > not even a cold. > > > Please share your personal experience or > someone's > > > you > > > know. > > > Thanks, > > > Sylvain > > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Syl, > > > > > > > > There is information on ozone spiking viral > > loads > > > > initially. In fact a more close analysis of > Bob > > > > > > Becks lectures and he will tell his protocol > > does > > > > this. Spiking viral loads is also noted in Ed > > > > > MCCabes " Flood Your Body With Oxygen. " Aids > > > > Remission also speaks of spiking viral loads > in > > > > their website which don't use ozone. Perhaps > > you > > > > should listen closely to Mullis on the issue > > > > of the PCR viral load, and maybe he can quelch > > > some > > > > of your fears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 9 May 2005 07:04:19 -0700 (PDT), > Sylvain > > > > Gagnon wrote > > > > > , > > > > > the only problem is that Eliot and I have > been > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... Discover Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover./online.html Read AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 Sylvain, You might read up on the Ed Skilling's Photon Sound Beam VIII as related to the magnificant claim of reducing gold ball size swollen lymph nodes to normal in an hour. I have also seen statements that the lemon olive oil drink has the potential of reducing swollen lymph glands. Here are a couple of lines of inquiry for you. On Fri, 20 May 2005 14:15:56 -0700, eseal2 wrote > Also, Sylvain, the swelling in the lymph nodes is more likely Human > Herpies 6A not HIV. Visit the website keephopealive.org > to learn about it. > Eliot > > Re: Beck Protocol > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear , > > > > did you become HIV negative yourself with the > > Beck > > > > protocol or do you know someone who did? > > > > We are 2 of us on this group who have tried it > > and > > > > it > > > > did not work for us, although I am never sick > > > > anymore, > > > > not even a cold. > > > > Please share your personal experience or > > someone's > > > > you > > > > know. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sylvain > > > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Syl, > > > > > > > > > > There is information on ozone spiking viral > > > loads > > > > > initially. In fact a more close analysis of > > Bob > > > > > > > > Becks lectures and he will tell his protocol > > > does > > > > > this. Spiking viral loads is also noted in Ed > > > > > > > MCCabes " Flood Your Body With Oxygen. " Aids > > > > > Remission also speaks of spiking viral loads > > in > > > > > their website which don't use ozone. Perhaps > > > you > > > > > should listen closely to Mullis on the issue > > > > > of the PCR viral load, and maybe he can quelch > > > > some > > > > > of your fears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 9 May 2005 07:04:19 -0700 (PDT), > > Sylvain > > > > > Gagnon wrote > > > > > > , > > > > > > the only problem is that Eliot and I have > > been > > > === message truncated === > > Musically yours, > Sylvain Gagnon > www.sylvaingagnon.net > info@... > > Discover > Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it > out! > http://discover./online.html > > Read AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 I used the magnetic pulsar on it for many months but it did not go away. :-( --- eseal2@... wrote: > Actually, rebounding can increase the swelling for a > while as it dumps > the toxins out of the lymphs and into the blood > stream and then later > the swelling will go away. If there is one swollen > lymph you can use the > magnetic pulsar on it. This is what it is for. > Supposedly it will pull > the junk out. > Eliot > > RE: Beck Protocol > > > > > > > > > Actually, the protocol requires a minimum of 2 > > hours > > > of Blood electrification, 20 minutes of Magnetic > > > Pulser Generation over your lymphs nodes, > stomach, > > > drinking a few glasses of ozonated water and > some > > > colloidal silver every day. > > > It should last 3-6 weeks at this intensity. If > you > > > did > > > not do all that, you were not really on the full > > > Beck > > > Protocol so you can not expect it to fully work > as > > > claimed. I did all that for a few months and > now, > > > just > > > doing it sporadically but I still feel great. > > > Planning to do it again with rectal insufflation > > of > > > ozone and a raw food diet following a 10 days > fast > > > drinking only distilled water to which will be > > added > > > lime, cayenne pepper and maple syrup. > > > Trying to gather all the discipline I can before > I > > > start, lol. > > > Discipline is the most difficult thing in the > > world > > > for me. > > > Sylvain > > > --- eseal2@... wrote: > > > > > > > I've had four years experience using it and it > > may > > > > have helped me, but I > > > > did fatigue of the protocol and all it > involves > > > > including wearing a > > > > zapper on hour every day. I did get sick on > > while > > > > using it, but my cell > > > > counts remained over 300 w/o meds. I have > > started > > > > using it again as I > > > > have dropped tcell count down to 230. I do > many > > > > different alternative > > > > and supplemental things so you cant apply my > > > success > > > > to any one thing. > > > > What experiences has any one else had to > share. > > > > > > > > By the way sickness is a good thing. It is > your > > > > body's way of processing > > > > a lot of bad things. People with cancer and > AIDS > > > > seldom get colds > > > > because the antibody side of the immune system > > is > > > so > > > > elevated that they > > > > don't developed symptoms. Cold are actually > good > > > > thing. A sign your > > > > immune system is working, just like a fever. > > It's > > > > good to learn about > > > > the TH1 and TH2 sides of the immune system. > > People > > > > with elevated TH2 > > > > won't get a cold but are likely to develop > AIDS > > or > > > > Cancer. > > > > > > > > Be Well, > > > > Eliot > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... Discover Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover./stayintouch.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 , do you still drink ozonated water? Do you use an ambiant air ozonator? How much of it do you drink daily or did you drink? How much colloidal silver did you drink? Sylvain --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > Sylvain, > > You might read up on the Ed Skilling's Photon Sound > Beam VIII as related to the magnificant > claim of reducing gold ball size swollen lymph nodes > to normal in an hour. I have also seen > statements that the lemon olive oil drink has the > potential of reducing swollen lymph glands. > Here are a couple of lines of inquiry for you. > > > > On Fri, 20 May 2005 14:15:56 -0700, eseal2 wrote > > Also, Sylvain, the swelling in the lymph nodes is > more likely Human > > Herpies 6A not HIV. Visit the website > keephopealive.org > > to learn about it. > > Eliot > > > > RE: Beck Protocol > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, the protocol requires a minimum of 2 > > > hours > > > > of Blood electrification, 20 minutes of > Magnetic > > > > Pulser Generation over your lymphs nodes, > stomach, > > > > drinking a few glasses of ozonated water and > some > > > > colloidal silver every day. > > > > It should last 3-6 weeks at this intensity. If > you > > > > did > > > > not do all that, you were not really on the > full > > > > Beck > > > > Protocol so you can not expect it to fully > work as > > > > claimed. I did all that for a few months and > now, > > > > just > > > > doing it sporadically but I still feel great. > > > > Planning to do it again with rectal > insufflation > > > of > > > > ozone and a raw food diet following a 10 days > fast > > > > drinking only distilled water to which will be > > > added > > > > lime, cayenne pepper and maple syrup. > > > > Trying to gather all the discipline I can > before I > > > > start, lol. > > > > Discipline is the most difficult thing in the > > > world > > > > for me. > > > > Sylvain > > > > --- eseal2@... wrote: > > > > > > > > > I've had four years experience using it and > it > > > may > > > > > have helped me, but I > > > > > did fatigue of the protocol and all it > involves > > > > > including wearing a > > > > > zapper on hour every day. I did get sick on > > > while > > > > > using it, but my cell > > > > > counts remained over 300 w/o meds. I have > > > started > > > > > using it again as I > > > > > have dropped tcell count down to 230. I do > many > > > > > different alternative > > > > > and supplemental things so you cant apply my > > > > success > > > > > to any one thing. > > > > > What experiences has any one else had to > share. > > > > > > > > > > By the way sickness is a good thing. It is > your > > > > > body's way of processing > > > > > a lot of bad things. People with cancer and > AIDS > > > > > seldom get colds > > > > > because the antibody side of the immune > system > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... __________________________________ Mobile Take with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile./learn/mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Sylvan, I have not done the protocol. I'm considering doing it as I have the magnetic pulser and the silver pulser. I have listened to some of Beck's lectures and a video lecture as well as post some of his infomration on my website. You seem to think that Beck promised a seroreversion. I personally found him to promise and AIDS cure and he was not specifically clear if he was using PCR negative or Western Blot negative. As far as an AIDS cure or AIDS remission, I tend to think he met his claim with you as you said yourself that you don't get sick. On Sat, 21 May 2005 19:01:28 -0700 (PDT), Sylvain Gagnon wrote > , > do you still drink ozonated water? Do you use an > ambiant air ozonator? How much of it do you drink > daily or did you drink? How much colloidal silver did > you drink? > Sylvain > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > Sylvain, > > > > You might read up on the Ed Skilling's Photon Sound > > Beam VIII as related to the magnificant > > claim of reducing gold ball size swollen lymph nodes > > to normal in an hour. I have also seen > > statements that the lemon olive oil drink has the > > potential of reducing swollen lymph glands. > > Here are a couple of lines of inquiry for you. > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 May 2005 14:15:56 -0700, eseal2 wrote > > > Also, Sylvain, the swelling in the lymph nodes is > > more likely Human > > > Herpies 6A not HIV. Visit the website > > keephopealive.org > > > to learn about it. > > > Eliot > > > > > > RE: Beck Protocol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, the protocol requires a minimum of 2 > > > > hours > > > > > of Blood electrification, 20 minutes of > > Magnetic > > > > > Pulser Generation over your lymphs nodes, > > stomach, > > > > > drinking a few glasses of ozonated water and > > some > > > > > colloidal silver every day. > > > > > It should last 3-6 weeks at this intensity. If > > you > > > > > did > > > > > not do all that, you were not really on the > > full > > > > > Beck > > > > > Protocol so you can not expect it to fully > > work as > > > > > claimed. I did all that for a few months and > > now, > > > > > just > > > > > doing it sporadically but I still feel great. > > > > > Planning to do it again with rectal > > insufflation > > > > of > > > > > ozone and a raw food diet following a 10 days > > fast > > > > > drinking only distilled water to which will be > > > > added > > > > > lime, cayenne pepper and maple syrup. > > > > > Trying to gather all the discipline I can > > before I > > > > > start, lol. > > > > > Discipline is the most difficult thing in the > > > > world > > > > > for me. > > > > > Sylvain > > > > > --- eseal2@... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I've had four years experience using it and > > it > > > > may > > > > > > have helped me, but I > > > > > > did fatigue of the protocol and all it > > involves > > > > > > including wearing a > > > > > > zapper on hour every day. I did get sick on > > > > while > > > > > > using it, but my cell > > > > > > counts remained over 300 w/o meds. I have > > > > started > > > > > > using it again as I > > > > > > have dropped tcell count down to 230. I do > > many > > > > > > different alternative > > > > > > and supplemental things so you cant apply my > > > > > success > > > > > > to any one thing. > > > > > > What experiences has any one else had to > > share. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way sickness is a good thing. It is > > your > > > > > > body's way of processing > > > > > > a lot of bad things. People with cancer and > > AIDS > > > > > > seldom get colds > > > > > > because the antibody side of the immune > > system > > > === message truncated === > > Musically yours, > Sylvain Gagnon > www.sylvaingagnon.net > info@... > > > __________________________________ > Mobile > Take with you! Check email on your mobile phone. > http://mobile./learn/mail > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Dear , I just got news that an Orange county study had been done and soon the test results will be scanned and put on the internet. These are the test results of 16 HIV positive patients who were put on the Beck protocol and many of them got their viral load at undetectable levels, which means HIV NEGATIVE! sylvain --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > Sylvan, > > I have not done the protocol. I'm considering doing > it as I have the magnetic pulser and the > silver pulser. > > I have listened to some of Beck's lectures and a > video lecture as well as post some of his > infomration on my website. You seem to think that > Beck promised a seroreversion. I > personally found him to promise and AIDS cure and he > was not specifically clear if he was > using PCR negative or Western Blot negative. As far > as an AIDS cure or AIDS remission, I > tend to think he met his claim with you as you said > yourself that you don't get sick. > > > > > On Sat, 21 May 2005 19:01:28 -0700 (PDT), Sylvain > Gagnon wrote > > , > > do you still drink ozonated water? Do you use an > > ambiant air ozonator? How much of it do you drink > > daily or did you drink? How much colloidal silver > did > > you drink? > > Sylvain > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > Sylvain, > > > > > > You might read up on the Ed Skilling's Photon > Sound > > > Beam VIII as related to the magnificant > > > claim of reducing gold ball size swollen lymph > nodes > > > to normal in an hour. I have also seen > > > statements that the lemon olive oil drink has > the > > > potential of reducing swollen lymph glands. > > > Here are a couple of lines of inquiry for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 May 2005 14:15:56 -0700, eseal2 wrote > > > > Also, Sylvain, the swelling in the lymph nodes > is > > > more likely Human > > > > Herpies 6A not HIV. Visit the website > > > keephopealive.org > > > > to learn about it. > > > > Eliot > > > > > > > > RE: Beck Protocol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, the protocol requires a minimum > of 2 > > > > > hours > > > > > > of Blood electrification, 20 minutes of > > > Magnetic > > > > > > Pulser Generation over your lymphs nodes, > > > stomach, > > > > > > drinking a few glasses of ozonated water > and > > > some > > > > > > colloidal silver every day. > > > > > > It should last 3-6 weeks at this > intensity. === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 If those Orange County results are posted on the internet, would you post them to this web site so we can see? Not to be cynical, but we have all heard so many stories... And keep in mind just because you say you don't get sick doesn't mean you won't. Testimonials that include " feel well " and " never get sick " , are not real health measures. Lots of thing can give you more energy which is good for you, but that doesn't mean they will reverse HIV progression. Thanks! Eliot RE: Beck Protocol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, the protocol requires a minimum > of 2 > > > > > hours > > > > > > of Blood electrification, 20 minutes of > > > Magnetic > > > > > > Pulser Generation over your lymphs nodes, > > > stomach, > > > > > > drinking a few glasses of ozonated water > and > > > some > > > > > > colloidal silver every day. > > > > > > It should last 3-6 weeks at this > intensity. === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 I agree with you, Eliot. I myself won't beleive anything until I have clear success with it. I only know that I don't get colds anymore when I used to get from 3 to 5 every year. I just got the first herpes outbreak since a year ago and ozonated some extra virgin cold pressed coconut oil to put on it. I used to use olive oil but since coconut oil seems to be superior, I am experimenting with it. Will let you know what happens. Last night, before going to bed, I put some 35% food grade H2O2 diluted in distilled water on the outbreak and then put some ozonated olive oil on it. It looked much better already when I woke up. That's it for now and I will send you the link once those lab tests are published. Sylvain --- eseal2@... wrote: > If those Orange County results are posted on the > internet, would you > post them to this web site so we can see? Not to be > cynical, but we have > all heard so many stories... And keep in mind just > because you say you > don't get sick doesn't mean you won't. Testimonials > that include " feel > well " and " never get sick " , are not real health > measures. Lots of thing > can give you more energy which is good for you, but > that doesn't mean > they will reverse HIV progression. > > Thanks! > Eliot > > RE: Beck Protocol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Elliot, I go for tests every 4 months > > and my > > > > > > next > > > > > > test is scheduled for May31st with the > > results > > > > will > > > > > > come mid July. I live in Hong Kong and > they > > send > > > > the > > > > > > tests in the USA. > > > > > > Too bad about the Beck protocol, so many > of > > us > > > > were > > > > > > hoping that it worked. Anyway, I am pretty > > > > confident > > > > > > that combined with Jovan's medical > > grade > > > > ozone > > > > > > protocol, that will work. He showed me > some > > lab > > > > > > results of people who's condition reversed > > to > > > > HIV > > > > > > negative with ozone only. > > > > > > I will meet him in June, will keep in > touch > > > > about my > > > > > > progress. > > > > > > For the time being, I have been adding 2-4 > > tea > > > > > > spoons > > > > > > of cold pressed virgin coconut oil to my > > > > protocol as > > > > > > well as flax oil. I stopped taking > > supplements > > > > when > > > > > > I > > > > > > started on the Beck protocol. Once in a > > while, I > > > > > > will > > > > > > take a few cloves, black wlanut hull and > > > > wormwood > > > > > > capsules as suggested in the Dr. Hulda > > 's > > > > > > parasite programm. > > > > > > I am curious to see if the coconut oil > will > > have > > > > > > made > > > > > > any difference. I just came back from the > > > > > > philippines > > > > > > where I bought a few bottles of it. > > > > > > Good luck, > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... Discover Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover./stayintouch.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 : I Would think that would apply to those that believe that transmission to another not being possible, would you or do you have sex with other people? This is actually something that I have been thinking of asking this group. I think it is a good topic for discussion. All belief aside, what would be the responsibility to others, I do not believe that this sort of virus, if it is that, can be transmitted any other way, or have not seen that occurrence. However what would it take for a person to safely think that they are free of any transmission to another? May God Bless You And Keep You Well Professor Ozone () www.ozoneuniversity.com Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This communication contains information, which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. RE: Beck Protocol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, the protocol requires a minimum of 2 > > > > hours > > > > > of Blood electrification, 20 minutes of > > Magnetic > > > > > Pulser Generation over your lymphs nodes, > > stomach, > > > > > drinking a few glasses of ozonated water and > > some > > > > > colloidal silver every day. > > > > > It should last 3-6 weeks at this intensity. If > > you > > > > > did > > > > > not do all that, you were not really on the > > full > > > > > Beck > > > > > Protocol so you can not expect it to fully > > work as > > > > > claimed. I did all that for a few months and > > now, > > > > > just > > > > > doing it sporadically but I still feel great. > > > > > Planning to do it again with rectal > > insufflation > > > > of > > > > > ozone and a raw food diet following a 10 days > > fast > > > > > drinking only distilled water to which will be > > > > added > > > > > lime, cayenne pepper and maple syrup. > > > > > Trying to gather all the discipline I can > > before I > > > > > start, lol. > > > > > Discipline is the most difficult thing in the > > > > world > > > > > for me. > > > > > Sylvain > > > > > --- eseal2@... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I've had four years experience using it and > > it > > > > may > > > > > > have helped me, but I > > > > > > did fatigue of the protocol and all it > > involves > > > > > > including wearing a > > > > > > zapper on hour every day. I did get sick on > > > > while > > > > > > using it, but my cell > > > > > > counts remained over 300 w/o meds. I have > > > > started > > > > > > using it again as I > > > > > > have dropped tcell count down to 230. I do > > many > > > > > > different alternative > > > > > > and supplemental things so you cant apply my > > > > > success > > > > > > to any one thing. > > > > > > What experiences has any one else had to > > share. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way sickness is a good thing. It is > > your > > > > > > body's way of processing > > > > > > a lot of bad things. People with cancer and > > AIDS > > > > > > seldom get colds > > > > > > because the antibody side of the immune > > system > > > === message truncated === > > Musically yours, > Sylvain Gagnon > www.sylvaingagnon.net > info@... > > > __________________________________ > Mobile > Take with you! Check email on your mobile phone. > http://mobile./learn/mail > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Elliot: Have you looked at the files regarding HIV on my site, there are a few relating to the reverse of HIV. Is that what you are looking for and if not, what is it specifically that you would like to see? May God Bless You And Keep You Well Professor Ozone () www.ozoneuniversity.com Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This communication contains information, which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. RE: Beck Protocol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, the protocol requires a minimum > of 2 > > > > > hours > > > > > > of Blood electrification, 20 minutes of > > > Magnetic > > > > > > Pulser Generation over your lymphs nodes, > > > stomach, > > > > > > drinking a few glasses of ozonated water > and > > > some > > > > > > colloidal silver every day. > > > > > > It should last 3-6 weeks at this > intensity. === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 There are different ways to test viral load. You can have nondetectable viral loads and still have a positive HIV test. (and vice versa for that matter) Viral load testing is ordinarily not used for diagnosing HIV. The HIV antibody test is still the preferred testing method. Sara --- Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote: > Dear , > I just got news that an Orange county study had been > done and soon the test results will be scanned and > put > on the internet. These are the test results of 16 > HIV > positive patients who were put on the Beck protocol > and many of them got their viral load at > undetectable > levels, which means HIV NEGATIVE! > sylvain > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > Sylvan, > > > > I have not done the protocol. I'm considering > doing > > it as I have the magnetic pulser and the > > silver pulser. > > > > I have listened to some of Beck's lectures and a > > video lecture as well as post some of his > > infomration on my website. You seem to think that > > Beck promised a seroreversion. I > > personally found him to promise and AIDS cure and > he > > was not specifically clear if he was > > using PCR negative or Western Blot negative. As > far > > as an AIDS cure or AIDS remission, I > > tend to think he met his claim with you as you > said > > yourself that you don't get sick. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 21 May 2005 19:01:28 -0700 (PDT), Sylvain > > Gagnon wrote > > > , > > > do you still drink ozonated water? Do you use an > > > ambiant air ozonator? How much of it do you > drink > > > daily or did you drink? How much colloidal > silver > > did > > > you drink? > > > Sylvain > > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Sylvain, > > > > > > > > You might read up on the Ed Skilling's Photon > > Sound > > > > Beam VIII as related to the magnificant > > > > claim of reducing gold ball size swollen lymph > > nodes > > > > to normal in an hour. I have also seen > > > > statements that the lemon olive oil drink has > > the > > > > potential of reducing swollen lymph glands. > > > > Here are a couple of lines of inquiry for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 May 2005 14:15:56 -0700, eseal2 > wrote > > > > > Also, Sylvain, the swelling in the lymph > nodes > > is > > > > more likely Human > > > > > Herpies 6A not HIV. Visit the website > > > > keephopealive.org > > > > > to learn about it. > > > > > Eliot > > > > > > > > > > RE: Beck Protocol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, the protocol requires a > minimum > > of 2 > > > > > > hours > > > > > > > of Blood electrification, 20 minutes of > > > > Magnetic > > > > > > > Pulser Generation over your lymphs > nodes, > > > > stomach, > > > > > > > drinking a few glasses of ozonated water > > and > > > > some > > > > > > > colloidal silver every day. > > > > > > > It should last 3-6 weeks at this > > intensity. > === message truncated === > > > Musically yours, > Sylvain Gagnon > www.sylvaingagnon.net > info@... > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 I did one Western Blot test, 2 PCR tests (68k and 140k), and 2 home self tests and they were all positive. I have no doubt at all that I am HIV positive. --- Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...> wrote: > There are different ways to test viral load. You can > have nondetectable viral loads and still have a > positive HIV test. (and vice versa for that matter) > > Viral load testing is ordinarily not used for > diagnosing HIV. The HIV antibody test is still the > preferred testing method. > > Sara > > > --- Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote: > > > Dear , > > I just got news that an Orange county study had > been > > done and soon the test results will be scanned and > > put > > on the internet. These are the test results of 16 > > HIV > > positive patients who were put on the Beck > protocol > > and many of them got their viral load at > > undetectable > > levels, which means HIV NEGATIVE! > > sylvain > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > Sylvan, > > > > > > I have not done the protocol. I'm considering > > doing > > > it as I have the magnetic pulser and the > > > silver pulser. > > > > > > I have listened to some of Beck's lectures and a > > > video lecture as well as post some of his > > > infomration on my website. You seem to think > that > > > Beck promised a seroreversion. I > > > personally found him to promise and AIDS cure > and > > he > > > was not specifically clear if he was > > > using PCR negative or Western Blot negative. As > > far > > > as an AIDS cure or AIDS remission, I > > > tend to think he met his claim with you as you > > said > > > yourself that you don't get sick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 21 May 2005 19:01:28 -0700 (PDT), > Sylvain > > > Gagnon wrote > > > > , > > > > do you still drink ozonated water? Do you use > an > > > > ambiant air ozonator? How much of it do you > > drink > > > > daily or did you drink? How much colloidal > > silver > > > did > > > > you drink? > > > > Sylvain > > > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sylvain, > > > > > > > > > > You might read up on the Ed Skilling's > Photon > > > Sound > > > > > Beam VIII as related to the magnificant > > > > > claim of reducing gold ball size swollen > lymph > > > nodes > > > > > to normal in an hour. I have also seen > > > > > statements that the lemon olive oil drink > has > > > the > > > > > potential of reducing swollen lymph glands. > > > > > > Here are a couple of lines of inquiry for > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 May 2005 14:15:56 -0700, eseal2 > > wrote > > > > > > Also, Sylvain, the swelling in the lymph > > nodes > > > is > > > > > more likely Human > > > > > > Herpies 6A not HIV. Visit the website > > > > > keephopealive.org > > > > > > to learn about it. > > > > > > Eliot > > > > > > > > > > > > RE: Beck Protocol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Elliot, I go for tests every 4 > months > > > and my > > > > > > > next > > > > > > > test is scheduled for May31st with the > > > results > > > > > will > > > > > > > come mid July. I live in Hong Kong and > > they > > > send > > > > > the > > > > > > > tests in the USA. > > > > > > > Too bad about the Beck protocol, so many > > of > > > us > > > > > were > > > > > > > hoping that it worked. Anyway, I am > pretty > > > > > confident > > > > > > > that combined with Jovan's medical > > > grade > > > > > ozone > > > > > > > protocol, that will work. He showed me > > some > > > lab > > > > > > > results of people who's condition > reversed > > > to > > > > > HIV > > > > > > > negative with ozone only. > > > > > > > I will meet him in June, will keep in > > touch > > > > > about my > > > > > > > progress. > > > > > > > For the time being, I have been adding > 2-4 > > > tea > > > > > > > spoons > > > > > > > of cold pressed virgin coconut oil to my > > > > > protocol as > > > > > > > well as flax oil. I stopped taking > > > supplements > > > > > when > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > started on the Beck protocol. Once in a > > > while, I > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > take a few cloves, black wlanut hull and > > > > > wormwood > > > > > > > capsules as suggested in the Dr. Hulda > > > 's > > > > > > > parasite programm. > > > > > > > I am curious to see if the coconut oil > > will > > > have > > > > > > > made > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 After having tried ozonated coconut oil on herpes outbreak, I do not recommend it because it just opened the blisters and let them wet. So I put some Pau D'arco for 20 minutes, which dried it up in so little time and then switched again to ozonated olive oil and that works much better. Sylvain --- Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote: > I did one Western Blot test, 2 PCR tests (68k and > 140k), and 2 home self tests and they were all > positive. I have no doubt at all that I am HIV > positive. > > --- Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...> wrote: > > > There are different ways to test viral load. You > can > > have nondetectable viral loads and still have a > > positive HIV test. (and vice versa for that > matter) > > > > Viral load testing is ordinarily not used for > > diagnosing HIV. The HIV antibody test is still the > > preferred testing method. > > > > Sara > > > > > > --- Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote: > > > > > Dear , > > > I just got news that an Orange county study had > > been > > > done and soon the test results will be scanned > and > > > put > > > on the internet. These are the test results of > 16 > > > HIV > > > positive patients who were put on the Beck > > protocol > > > and many of them got their viral load at > > > undetectable > > > levels, which means HIV NEGATIVE! > > > sylvain > > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Sylvan, > > > > > > > > I have not done the protocol. I'm considering > > > doing > > > > it as I have the magnetic pulser and the > > > > silver pulser. > > > > > > > > I have listened to some of Beck's lectures and > a > > > > video lecture as well as post some of his > > > > infomration on my website. You seem to think > > that > > > > Beck promised a seroreversion. I > > > > personally found him to promise and AIDS cure > > and > > > he > > > > was not specifically clear if he was > > > > using PCR negative or Western Blot negative. > As > > > far > > > > as an AIDS cure or AIDS remission, I > > > > tend to think he met his claim with you as you > > > said > > > > yourself that you don't get sick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 21 May 2005 19:01:28 -0700 (PDT), > > Sylvain > > > > Gagnon wrote > > > > > , > > > > > do you still drink ozonated water? Do you > use > > an > > > > > ambiant air ozonator? How much of it do you > > > drink > > > > > daily or did you drink? How much colloidal > > > silver > > > > did > > > > > you drink? > > > > > Sylvain > > > > > --- kevin <kevin@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Sylvain, > > > > > > > > > > > > You might read up on the Ed Skilling's > > Photon > > > > Sound > > > > > > Beam VIII as related to the magnificant > > > > > > claim of reducing gold ball size swollen > > lymph > > > > nodes > > > > > > to normal in an hour. I have also seen > > > > > > statements that the lemon olive oil drink > > has > > > > the > > > > > > potential of reducing swollen lymph > glands. > > > > > > > > Here are a couple of lines of inquiry for > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 May 2005 14:15:56 -0700, eseal2 > > > wrote > > > > > > > Also, Sylvain, the swelling in the lymph > > > nodes > > > > is > > > > > > more likely Human > > > > > > > Herpies 6A not HIV. Visit the website > > > > > > keephopealive.org > > > > > > > to learn about it. > > > > > > > Eliot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RE: Beck Protocol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Elliot, I go for tests every 4 > > months > > > > and my > > > > > > > > next > > > > > > > > test is scheduled for May31st with the > > > > results > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > come mid July. I live in Hong Kong and > > > they > > > > send > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > tests in the USA. > > > > > > > > Too bad about the Beck protocol, so > many > > > of > > > > us > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > hoping that it worked. Anyway, I am > > pretty > > > > > > confident > > > > > > > > that combined with Jovan's > medical > > > > grade > > > > > > ozone > > > > > > > > protocol, that will work. He showed me > > > some > > > > lab > > > > > > > > results of people who's condition > > reversed > > > > to > > > > > > HIV > > > > > > > > negative with ozone only. > > > > > > > > I will meet him in June, will keep in > > > touch > > > > > > about my > > > > > > > > progress. > === message truncated === Musically yours, Sylvain Gagnon www.sylvaingagnon.net info@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 My point, which flew right over your head, is that you can be positive on conventional tests and have a nondetectable viral load at the same time, so having a nondetectable viral load won't necesssarily get you a negative test. --- Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote: > I did one Western Blot test, 2 PCR tests (68k and > 140k), and 2 home self tests and they were all > positive. I have no doubt at all that I am HIV > positive. > > --- Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...> wrote: > > > There are different ways to test viral load. You > can > > have nondetectable viral loads and still have a > > positive HIV test. (and vice versa for that > matter) > > > > Viral load testing is ordinarily not used for > > diagnosing HIV. The HIV antibody test is still the > > preferred testing method. > > > > Sara > > > > > > --- Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote: > > > > > Dear , > > > I just got news that an Orange county study had > > been > > > done and soon the test results will be scanned > and > > > put > > > on the internet. These are the test results of > 16 > > > HIV > > > positive patients who were put on the Beck > > protocol > > > and many of them got their viral load at > > > undetectable > > > levels, which means HIV NEGATIVE! > > > sylvain > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 : Have you seen occurrences of this anywhere or heard of others that this has happened to? May God Bless You And Keep You Well Professor Ozone () www.ozoneuniversity.com Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This communication contains information, which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. RE: Beck Protocol My point, which flew right over your head, is that you can be positive on conventional tests and have a nondetectable viral load at the same time, so having a nondetectable viral load won't necesssarily get you a negative test. --- Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote: > I did one Western Blot test, 2 PCR tests (68k and 140k), and 2 home > self tests and they were all positive. I have no doubt at all that I > am HIV positive. > > --- Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...> wrote: > > > There are different ways to test viral load. You > can > > have nondetectable viral loads and still have a positive HIV test. > > (and vice versa for that > matter) > > > > Viral load testing is ordinarily not used for diagnosing HIV. The > > HIV antibody test is still the preferred testing method. > > > > Sara > > > > > > --- Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote: > > > > > Dear , > > > I just got news that an Orange county study had > > been > > > done and soon the test results will be scanned > and > > > put > > > on the internet. These are the test results of > 16 > > > HIV > > > positive patients who were put on the Beck > > protocol > > > and many of them got their viral load at undetectable levels, > > > which means HIV NEGATIVE! > > > sylvain > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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