Re: Re: blood electrification in patients using morphine

[Guest guest]

I don't know much about his ego, but I do know that he was probably playing it

safe when he did that. In other words, if you electrify your blood in an extreme

way while taking something that is already at the edge, it might be hazardous.

However, I have electrified my blood and drank a beer to see what would happen.

Nothing bad happened and the feeling produced was the equivalent of

approximately 3 beers.

I have also drank echinacea tea and electrified my blood at the same time, when

I had a cold once. It had a powerful effect. I got rid of the cold in about 24

hours, but I got a mean headache because of the increased percentage of the

die-off from the organisms. Blood electrification causes electroporation, where

the pores are opened more than usual causing a higher absorbtion rate than

usual. I do it very carefully, but I wouldn't recommend that someone having

sleeping problems and taking industrial strength valium, use it when they are

already above the standard dosage.

In other words, for me, it isn't a YES or NO question. It is a WHEN question.

P.S. Thanks to those keeping this forum on topic once again.

> From: baby_grand <b7494@...>

> Subject: Re: blood electrification in patients

using morphine

>

> Date: Wednesday, August 10, 2011, 3:52 PM

> I think the meds and electricity are

> not going to cause trouble. 

> Beck said to stop all drugs, vitamins, herbs, etc when

> doing his protocol.  His reasoning was not clear on it,

> and is sometimes attributed to ego and hatred drugs.

>

> Drugs for HIV combined with some of Beck's protocol would

> have been far more effective.  Drugs for Hep-C along

> with blood electrification, resulted in a record-breaking

> fast complete remission, confirmed by test.  Without

> the drugs, half a dozen more hep-c cases did not respond to

> blood electrification alone.

>

> The moral is:  Don't miss out on the synergies you can

> get with both drugs and Beck combination therapy. 

> Stopping meds is bad science, it puts the practitioner's

> prejudices above the well-being of the patient.

>

> bG

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> >  Hi Victor,

> > We treated a relative with stage 4 stomach cancer and

> did as BG suggested. However some medications were still

> given as doctors refused our request to wait until we

> finished the protocol.

> >

> > This is what we did with remarkable results: 20

> minutes pulsing, wait 20 minutes, 2 hours zapping, wait 20

> minutes, drink colloidal silver, wait 20 minutes, drink

> ozonated water. Our relative was off morphine altogether

> after just 3 days. We also gave vitamin B17 and Essiac Tea.

> >

> > We then waited 1 hour and repeated the process

> increasing the pulsing to 45 minutes and the zapping time to

> 3 hours. A lot of work but very effective.

> >

> > Even with the meds still given there were no problems

> with electroporation at all.

> >

> > We noticed a green coloured fluid coming out of her

> pores which we believed to be the Chemo she had.

> >

> > Hope this helps,

> >

> > RB

> >

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Victor_Alcazar <victor_alcazar@...>

> >

> > Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2011 1:10 AM

> > Subject: blood

> electrification in patients using morphine

> >

> >

> >  

> > Hello,

> >

> > My mother has cancer stage 4 (lung, breast and

> spreading). She takes morphine to help with the pain. We

> have all the equipment to follow the Beck protocol. Do you

> recommend to do the blood electrification or is it not

> recommended because of electroporation?

> > As I know, my mom is taking morphine a couple of times

> per day.

> >

> > Thank you for your inputs,

> >

> > Victor

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Victor,All good now, actually was 4 years ago.RBFrom: Victor_Alcazar <victor_alcazar@...> Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2011 2:35 PMSubject: Re: blood electrification in patients using morphine

Hi RB,

so is your relative cured now?

Victor

>

>

>

> Â Hi Victor,

> We treated a relative with stage 4 stomach cancer and did as BG suggested. However some medications were still given as doctors refused our request to wait until we finished the protocol.

>

> This is what we did with remarkable results: 20 minutes pulsing, wait 20 minutes, 2 hours zapping, wait 20 minutes, drink colloidal silver, wait 20 minutes, drink ozonated water. Our relative was off morphine altogether after just 3 days. We also gave vitamin B17 and Essiac Tea.

>

> We then waited 1 hour and repeated the process increasing the pulsing to 45 minutes and the zapping time to 3 hours. A lot of work but very effective.

>

> Even with the meds still given there were no problems with electroporation at all.

>

> We noticed a green coloured fluid coming out of her pores which we believed to be the Chemo she had.

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> RB

>

>

>

> Â

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Victor_Alcazar <victor_alcazar@...>

>

> Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2011 1:10 AM

> Subject: blood electrification in patients using morphine

>

>

> Â

> Hello,

>

> My mother has cancer stage 4 (lung, breast and spreading). She takes morphine to help with the pain. We have all the equipment to follow the Beck protocol. Do you recommend to do the blood electrification or is it not recommended because of electroporation?

> As I know, my mom is taking morphine a couple of times per day.

>

> Thank you for your inputs,

>

> Victor

>

[Guest guest]

I have a question for all of those with the electronic skills to be able to help

me convert the Blood Electrification Protocol (2 hours a day for 90 days at x

volts and y amps) to the 'railway therapy' protocol. I am interested in knowing

what would be the equivalent time for using the railway, for these people at

this link:

Sick Indonesians turn to 'railway therapy'

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-03/electricity-therapy/2823200

This is not a joke. I am doing this just to satisfy my curiousity, but I do

expect a technical answer. This is supposed to be the specs for that railway:

40 volts at 5 amps (200 watts)

Would it still be 2 hours a day for 90 days or would it be less time because it

is more powerful?

What would the formula be if they do it for less time, say 1 hour or 30 minutes?

> From: Victor_Alcazar <victor_alcazar@...>

> Subject: Re: blood electrification in patients

using morphine

>

> Date: Thursday, August 11, 2011, 1:29 PM

>

> Thank you all for your answers.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Victor

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >  Hi Victor,

> > > > > We treated a relative with stage 4

> stomach cancer and

> > > > did as BG suggested. However some

> medications were still

> > > > given as doctors refused our request to wait

> until we

> > > > finished the protocol.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is what we did with remarkable

> results: 20

> > > > minutes pulsing, wait 20 minutes, 2 hours

> zapping, wait 20

> > > > minutes, drink colloidal silver, wait 20

> minutes, drink

> > > > ozonated water. Our relative was off

> morphine altogether

> > > > after just 3 days. We also gave vitamin B17

> and Essiac Tea.

> > > > >

> > > > > We then waited 1 hour and repeated the

> process

> > > > increasing the pulsing to 45 minutes and the

> zapping time to

> > > > 3 hours. A lot of work but very effective.

> > > > >

> > > > > Even with the meds still given there

> were no problems

> > > > with electroporation at all.

> > > > >

> > > > > We noticed a green coloured fluid

> coming out of her

> > > > pores which we believed to be the Chemo she

> had.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope this helps,

> > > > >

> > > > > RB

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >  

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > From: Victor_Alcazar

> <victor_alcazar@>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2011 1:10 AM

> > > > > Subject:

> blood

> > > > electrification in patients using morphine

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >  

> > > > > Hello,

> > > > >

> > > > > My mother has cancer stage 4 (lung,

> breast and

> > > > spreading). She takes morphine to help with

> the pain. We

> > > > have all the equipment to follow the Beck

> protocol. Do you

> > > > recommend to do the blood electrification or

> is it not

> > > > recommended because of electroporation?

> > > > > As I know, my mom is taking morphine a

> couple of times

> > > > per day.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you for your inputs,

> > > > >

> > > > > Victor

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Here is an excerpt from one of the websites discussing it:

Henry Eckstein

" The high currents used in rail systems tend to leak, especially in 3rd world

countries where infrastructure upkeep is poor thus the " patients " are using

their bodies to Short-Circuit the leaking currents which are grounding out via

their bodies.

Since Train Systems tend to use 600 volts DC at whatever high Amperage (probably

5kA) and with the significant resistive losses of the rail power distribution

itself, I'm going to suggest that about 40 volts at 5 amps (200 watts) is

actually being transferred through their bodies. "

--------

I hope this gives you enough information to go on to give up the statistics.

Thanks. Ernie

>

> > From: Victor_Alcazar <victor_alcazar@...>

> > Subject: Re: blood

> electrification in patients using morphine

> >

> > Date: Thursday, August 11, 2011, 1:29 PM

> >

> > Thank you all for your answers.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Victor

> >

> >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >  Hi Victor,

> > > > > > We treated a relative with stage

> 4

> > stomach cancer and

> > > > > did as BG suggested. However some

> > medications were still

> > > > > given as doctors refused our request to

> wait

> > until we

> > > > > finished the protocol.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is what we did with

> remarkable

> > results: 20

> > > > > minutes pulsing, wait 20 minutes, 2

> hours

> > zapping, wait 20

> > > > > minutes, drink colloidal silver, wait

> 20

> > minutes, drink

> > > > > ozonated water. Our relative was off

> > morphine altogether

> > > > > after just 3 days. We also gave vitamin

> B17

> > and Essiac Tea.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We then waited 1 hour and repeated

> the

> > process

> > > > > increasing the pulsing to 45 minutes

> and the

> > zapping time to

> > > > > 3 hours. A lot of work but very

> effective.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even with the meds still given

> there

> > were no problems

> > > > > with electroporation at all.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We noticed a green coloured fluid

> > coming out of her

> > > > > pores which we believed to be the Chemo

> she

> > had.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hope this helps,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RB

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >  

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > From: Victor_Alcazar

> > <victor_alcazar@>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2011

> 1:10 AM

> > > > > > Subject:

>

> > blood

> > > > > electrification in patients using

> morphine

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > Hello,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My mother has cancer stage 4

> (lung,

> > breast and

> > > > > spreading). She takes morphine to help

> with

> > the pain. We

> > > > > have all the equipment to follow the

> Beck

> > protocol. Do you

> > > > > recommend to do the blood

> electrification or

> > is it not

> > > > > recommended because of

> electroporation?

> > > > > > As I know, my mom is taking

> morphine a

> > couple of times

> > > > > per day.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you for your inputs,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Victor

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Victor,She had 3 glasses of CS per day. We did 3 sessions of the Beck protocol a day. B17 was 20 kernels a day crushed as she could not chew them.We did dot use Ozonated water but would do so now.Also had as many cups of Essiac tea as she could stand.She had a teaspoon of baking soda in warm water in the morning and another in the evening.She also meditated as often as time permitted.Hope this helps.RB From: Victor_Alcazar <victor_alcazar@...> Sent: Monday, 15 August 2011 1:40 PMSubject: Re: blood electrification in patients using morphine

Hello RB,

Do you remember what were the dosages of the colloidal silver, ozonated water and B-17 vitamins your relative used?

Thank you,

Victor

> >

> >

> >

> >  Hi Victor,

> > We treated a relative with stage 4 stomach cancer and did as BG suggested. However some medications were still given as doctors refused our request to wait until we finished the protocol.

> >

> > This is what we did with remarkable results: 20 minutes pulsing, wait 20 minutes, 2 hours zapping, wait 20 minutes, drink colloidal silver, wait 20 minutes, drink ozonated water. Our relative was off morphine altogether after just 3 days. We also gave vitamin B17 and Essiac Tea.

> >

> > We then waited 1 hour and repeated the process increasing the pulsing to 45 minutes and the zapping time to 3 hours. A lot of work but very effective.

> >

> > Even with the meds still given there were no problems with electroporation at all.

> >

> > We noticed a green coloured fluid coming out of her pores which we believed to be the Chemo she had.

> >

> > Hope this helps,

> >

> > RB

> >

> >

> >

> > ÂÂ

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Victor_Alcazar <victor_alcazar@>

> >

> > Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2011 1:10 AM

> > Subject: blood electrification in patients using morphine

> >

> >

> > ÂÂ

> > Hello,

> >

> > My mother has cancer stage 4 (lung, breast and spreading). She takes morphine to help with the pain. We have all the equipment to follow the Beck protocol. Do you recommend to do the blood electrification or is it not recommended because of electroporation?

> > As I know, my mom is taking morphine a couple of times per day.

> >

> > Thank you for your inputs,

> >

> > Victor

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Very welcome.From: Victor_Alcazar <victor_alcazar@...> Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 1:52 PMSubject: Re: blood electrification in patients using morphine

Thank you RB.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >  Hi Victor,

> > > We treated a relative with stage 4 stomach cancer and did as BG suggested. However some medications were still given as doctors refused our request to wait until we finished the protocol.

> > >

> > > This is what we did with remarkable results: 20 minutes pulsing, wait 20 minutes, 2 hours zapping, wait 20 minutes, drink colloidal silver, wait 20 minutes, drink ozonated water. Our relative was off morphine altogether after just 3 days. We also gave vitamin B17 and Essiac Tea.

> > >

> > > We then waited 1 hour and repeated the process increasing the pulsing to 45 minutes and the zapping time to 3 hours. A lot of work but very effective.

> > >

> > > Even with the meds still given there were no problems with electroporation at all.

> > >

> > > We noticed a green coloured fluid coming out of her pores which we believed to be the Chemo she had.

> > >

> > > Hope this helps,

> > >

> > > RB

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ÂÂÂ

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: Victor_Alcazar <victor_alcazar@>

> > >

> > > Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2011 1:10 AM

> > > Subject: blood electrification in patients using morphine

> > >

> > >

> > > ÂÂÂ

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > My mother has cancer stage 4 (lung, breast and spreading). She takes morphine to help with the pain. We have all the equipment to follow the Beck protocol. Do you recommend to do the blood electrification or is it not recommended because of electroporation?

> > > As I know, my mom is taking morphine a couple of times per day.

> > >

> > > Thank you for your inputs,

> > >

> > > Victor

> > >

> >

>