Re: blood electrification in patients using morphine

[Guest guest]

take whatever meds after electrifying, this way the level in blood is at the

lowest when electricity is present. reports of interractions are rare.

best of luck,

bG

>

> Hello,

>

> My mother has cancer stage 4 (lung, breast and spreading). She takes morphine

to help with the pain. We have all the equipment to follow the Beck protocol. Do

you recommend to do the blood electrification or is it not recommended because

of electroporation?

> As I know, my mom is taking morphine a couple of times per day.

>

> Thank you for your inputs,

>

> Victor

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Victor,We treated a relative with stage 4 stomach cancer and did as BG suggested. However some medications were still given as doctors refused our request to wait until we finished the protocol.This is what we did with remarkable results: 20 minutes pulsing, wait 20 minutes, 2 hours zapping, wait 20 minutes, drink colloidal silver, wait 20 minutes, drink ozonated water. Our relative was off morphine altogether after just 3 days. We also gave vitamin B17 and Essiac Tea.We then waited 1 hour and repeated the process increasing the pulsing to 45 minutes and the zapping time to 3 hours. A lot of work but very effective.Even with the meds still given there were no problems with electroporation at all.We noticed a green coloured fluid coming out of her pores

which we believed to be the Chemo she had.Hope this helps,RB From: Victor_Alcazar <victor_alcazar@...> Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2011 1:10 AMSubject: blood electrification in patients using morphine

Hello,

My mother has cancer stage 4 (lung, breast and spreading). She takes morphine to help with the pain. We have all the equipment to follow the Beck protocol. Do you recommend to do the blood electrification or is it not recommended because of electroporation?

As I know, my mom is taking morphine a couple of times per day.

Thank you for your inputs,

Victor

[Guest guest]

I think the meds and electricity are not going to cause trouble.

Beck said to stop all drugs, vitamins, herbs, etc when doing his protocol. His

reasoning was not clear on it, and is sometimes attributed to ego and hatred

drugs.

Drugs for HIV combined with some of Beck's protocol would have been far more

effective. Drugs for Hep-C along with blood electrification, resulted in a

record-breaking fast complete remission, confirmed by test. Without the drugs,

half a dozen more hep-c cases did not respond to blood electrification alone.

The moral is: Don't miss out on the synergies you can get with both drugs and

Beck combination therapy. Stopping meds is bad science, it puts the

practitioner's prejudices above the well-being of the patient.

bG

>

>

>

>  Hi Victor,

> We treated a relative with stage 4 stomach cancer and did as BG suggested.

However some medications were still given as doctors refused our request to wait

until we finished the protocol.

>

> This is what we did with remarkable results: 20 minutes pulsing, wait 20

minutes, 2 hours zapping, wait 20 minutes, drink colloidal silver, wait 20

minutes, drink ozonated water. Our relative was off morphine altogether after

just 3 days. We also gave vitamin B17 and Essiac Tea.

>

> We then waited 1 hour and repeated the process increasing the pulsing to 45

minutes and the zapping time to 3 hours. A lot of work but very effective.

>

> Even with the meds still given there were no problems with electroporation at

all.

>

> We noticed a green coloured fluid coming out of her pores which we believed to

be the Chemo she had.

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> RB

>

>

>

>  

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Victor_Alcazar <victor_alcazar@...>

>

> Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2011 1:10 AM

> Subject: blood electrification in patients using

morphine

>

>

>  

> Hello,

>

> My mother has cancer stage 4 (lung, breast and spreading). She takes morphine

to help with the pain. We have all the equipment to follow the Beck protocol. Do

you recommend to do the blood electrification or is it not recommended because

of electroporation?

> As I know, my mom is taking morphine a couple of times per day.

>

> Thank you for your inputs,

>

> Victor

>

[Guest guest]

Hi RB,

so is your relative cured now?

Victor

>

>

>

>  Hi Victor,

> We treated a relative with stage 4 stomach cancer and did as BG suggested.

However some medications were still given as doctors refused our request to wait

until we finished the protocol.

>

> This is what we did with remarkable results: 20 minutes pulsing, wait 20

minutes, 2 hours zapping, wait 20 minutes, drink colloidal silver, wait 20

minutes, drink ozonated water. Our relative was off morphine altogether after

just 3 days. We also gave vitamin B17 and Essiac Tea.

>

> We then waited 1 hour and repeated the process increasing the pulsing to 45

minutes and the zapping time to 3 hours. A lot of work but very effective.

>

> Even with the meds still given there were no problems with electroporation at

all.

>

> We noticed a green coloured fluid coming out of her pores which we believed to

be the Chemo she had.

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> RB

>

>

>

>  

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Victor_Alcazar <victor_alcazar@...>

>

> Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2011 1:10 AM

> Subject: blood electrification in patients using

morphine

>

>

>  

> Hello,

>

> My mother has cancer stage 4 (lung, breast and spreading). She takes morphine

to help with the pain. We have all the equipment to follow the Beck protocol. Do

you recommend to do the blood electrification or is it not recommended because

of electroporation?

> As I know, my mom is taking morphine a couple of times per day.

>

> Thank you for your inputs,

>

> Victor

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Ernie, I used the word ego too loosely, you're right, should be more like

" preference " regarding Beck's orders about drugs and his protocol. Beck had

nothing but love of humanity going on, also, which is not always the case in

mainstream medicine.

I don't disagree with your approach, it's same thing I do.

Playing it " safe " is what he thought he was doing, but that is relative:

Drop the med means

1. lose benefits of med

2. remove bad interactions of med and electrification

3. remove good interactions of med and electrification

Keep the med means

1. keep benefits of med

2. get bad interactions of med and electrification

3. get good interactions of med and electrification

All of these points have to be given a rating, or else it is not " playing it

safe " .

bG

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >  Hi Victor,

> > > We treated a relative with stage 4 stomach cancer and

> > did as BG suggested. However some medications were still

> > given as doctors refused our request to wait until we

> > finished the protocol.

> > >

> > > This is what we did with remarkable results: 20

> > minutes pulsing, wait 20 minutes, 2 hours zapping, wait 20

> > minutes, drink colloidal silver, wait 20 minutes, drink

> > ozonated water. Our relative was off morphine altogether

> > after just 3 days. We also gave vitamin B17 and Essiac Tea.

> > >

> > > We then waited 1 hour and repeated the process

> > increasing the pulsing to 45 minutes and the zapping time to

> > 3 hours. A lot of work but very effective.

> > >

> > > Even with the meds still given there were no problems

> > with electroporation at all.

> > >

> > > We noticed a green coloured fluid coming out of her

> > pores which we believed to be the Chemo she had.

> > >

> > > Hope this helps,

> > >

> > > RB

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: Victor_Alcazar <victor_alcazar@>

> > >

> > > Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2011 1:10 AM

> > > Subject: blood

> > electrification in patients using morphine

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > My mother has cancer stage 4 (lung, breast and

> > spreading). She takes morphine to help with the pain. We

> > have all the equipment to follow the Beck protocol. Do you

> > recommend to do the blood electrification or is it not

> > recommended because of electroporation?

> > > As I know, my mom is taking morphine a couple of times

> > per day.

> > >

> > > Thank you for your inputs,

> > >

> > > Victor

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you all for your answers.

Best regards,

Victor

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >  Hi Victor,

> > > > We treated a relative with stage 4 stomach cancer and

> > > did as BG suggested. However some medications were still

> > > given as doctors refused our request to wait until we

> > > finished the protocol.

> > > >

> > > > This is what we did with remarkable results: 20

> > > minutes pulsing, wait 20 minutes, 2 hours zapping, wait 20

> > > minutes, drink colloidal silver, wait 20 minutes, drink

> > > ozonated water. Our relative was off morphine altogether

> > > after just 3 days. We also gave vitamin B17 and Essiac Tea.

> > > >

> > > > We then waited 1 hour and repeated the process

> > > increasing the pulsing to 45 minutes and the zapping time to

> > > 3 hours. A lot of work but very effective.

> > > >

> > > > Even with the meds still given there were no problems

> > > with electroporation at all.

> > > >

> > > > We noticed a green coloured fluid coming out of her

> > > pores which we believed to be the Chemo she had.

> > > >

> > > > Hope this helps,

> > > >

> > > > RB

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > From: Victor_Alcazar <victor_alcazar@>

> > > >

> > > > Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2011 1:10 AM

> > > > Subject: blood

> > > electrification in patients using morphine

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > > Hello,

> > > >

> > > > My mother has cancer stage 4 (lung, breast and

> > > spreading). She takes morphine to help with the pain. We

> > > have all the equipment to follow the Beck protocol. Do you

> > > recommend to do the blood electrification or is it not

> > > recommended because of electroporation?

> > > > As I know, my mom is taking morphine a couple of times

> > > per day.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for your inputs,

> > > >

> > > > Victor

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

if current in body is 5amps railway, and .3mA Beck, 15,000 times more with

railway. just divide. however, the size of contact area is critical, so you

need to compare the area of skin touching electrodes in both cases and divide by

that value also.

i doubt it is 5 amps, 200watts for railway, it should be a lot less than that.

but there's info on critical damage to body at various levels of current. i

think at 30 milliamps burning starts in, and 1 amp you'd be 30 times that

amount.

bG

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >  Hi Victor,

> > > > > > We treated a relative with stage 4

> > stomach cancer and

> > > > > did as BG suggested. However some

> > medications were still

> > > > > given as doctors refused our request to wait

> > until we

> > > > > finished the protocol.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is what we did with remarkable

> > results: 20

> > > > > minutes pulsing, wait 20 minutes, 2 hours

> > zapping, wait 20

> > > > > minutes, drink colloidal silver, wait 20

> > minutes, drink

> > > > > ozonated water. Our relative was off

> > morphine altogether

> > > > > after just 3 days. We also gave vitamin B17

> > and Essiac Tea.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We then waited 1 hour and repeated the

> > process

> > > > > increasing the pulsing to 45 minutes and the

> > zapping time to

> > > > > 3 hours. A lot of work but very effective.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even with the meds still given there

> > were no problems

> > > > > with electroporation at all.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We noticed a green coloured fluid

> > coming out of her

> > > > > pores which we believed to be the Chemo she

> > had.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hope this helps,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RB

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >  

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > From: Victor_Alcazar

> > <victor_alcazar@>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2011 1:10 AM

> > > > > > Subject:

> > blood

> > > > > electrification in patients using morphine

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > Hello,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My mother has cancer stage 4 (lung,

> > breast and

> > > > > spreading). She takes morphine to help with

> > the pain. We

> > > > > have all the equipment to follow the Beck

> > protocol. Do you

> > > > > recommend to do the blood electrification or

> > is it not

> > > > > recommended because of electroporation?

> > > > > > As I know, my mom is taking morphine a

> > couple of times

> > > > > per day.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you for your inputs,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Victor

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

bear in mind that 1milliamp on 1 square inch of skin is approx point where

damage to skin begins to occur. approx. I would not say a one time application

for an hour at that current would hurt permanently, but repeated use for an hour

or more a day will definitely damage skin and it will not be possible (or wise)

to continue it very long.

our dc current godzilla's can easily deliver that current,not a lot more, but

over time we have used more and people reported they can no longer use the skin

anymore at the spot for futher location of electrodes, the skin instantly reacts

against it.

in my exp, the level of current for microbes in the facial area is around

..3-.7mA for things like sinus, etc. the rest of the body is sort of unknown,

good luck.

bG

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >  Hi Victor,

> > > > > > > We treated a relative with stage 4

> > > stomach cancer and

> > > > > > did as BG suggested. However some

> > > medications were still

> > > > > > given as doctors refused our request to wait

> > > until we

> > > > > > finished the protocol.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This is what we did with remarkable

> > > results: 20

> > > > > > minutes pulsing, wait 20 minutes, 2 hours

> > > zapping, wait 20

> > > > > > minutes, drink colloidal silver, wait 20

> > > minutes, drink

> > > > > > ozonated water. Our relative was off

> > > morphine altogether

> > > > > > after just 3 days. We also gave vitamin B17

> > > and Essiac Tea.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > We then waited 1 hour and repeated the

> > > process

> > > > > > increasing the pulsing to 45 minutes and the

> > > zapping time to

> > > > > > 3 hours. A lot of work but very effective.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Even with the meds still given there

> > > were no problems

> > > > > > with electroporation at all.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > We noticed a green coloured fluid

> > > coming out of her

> > > > > > pores which we believed to be the Chemo she

> > > had.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hope this helps,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RB

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > From: Victor_Alcazar

> > > <victor_alcazar@>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2011 1:10 AM

> > > > > > > Subject:

> > > blood

> > > > > > electrification in patients using morphine

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > Hello,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My mother has cancer stage 4 (lung,

> > > breast and

> > > > > > spreading). She takes morphine to help with

> > > the pain. We

> > > > > > have all the equipment to follow the Beck

> > > protocol. Do you

> > > > > > recommend to do the blood electrification or

> > > is it not

> > > > > > recommended because of electroporation?

> > > > > > > As I know, my mom is taking morphine a

> > > couple of times

> > > > > > per day.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you for your inputs,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Victor

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hello RB,

Do you remember what were the dosages of the colloidal silver, ozonated water

and B-17 vitamins your relative used?

Thank you,

Victor

> >

> >

> >

> >  Hi Victor,

> > We treated a relative with stage 4 stomach cancer and did as BG suggested.

However some medications were still given as doctors refused our request to wait

until we finished the protocol.

> >

> > This is what we did with remarkable results: 20 minutes pulsing, wait 20

minutes, 2 hours zapping, wait 20 minutes, drink colloidal silver, wait 20

minutes, drink ozonated water. Our relative was off morphine altogether after

just 3 days. We also gave vitamin B17 and Essiac Tea.

> >

> > We then waited 1 hour and repeated the process increasing the pulsing to 45

minutes and the zapping time to 3 hours. A lot of work but very effective.

> >

> > Even with the meds still given there were no problems with electroporation

at all.

> >

> > We noticed a green coloured fluid coming out of her pores which we believed

to be the Chemo she had.

> >

> > Hope this helps,

> >

> > RB

> >

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Victor_Alcazar <victor_alcazar@>

> >

> > Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2011 1:10 AM

> > Subject: blood electrification in patients

using morphine

> >

> >

> >  

> > Hello,

> >

> > My mother has cancer stage 4 (lung, breast and spreading). She takes

morphine to help with the pain. We have all the equipment to follow the Beck

protocol. Do you recommend to do the blood electrification or is it not

recommended because of electroporation?

> > As I know, my mom is taking morphine a couple of times per day.

> >

> > Thank you for your inputs,

> >

> > Victor

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you RB.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >  Hi Victor,

> > > We treated a relative with stage 4 stomach cancer and did as BG suggested.

However some medications were still given as doctors refused our request to wait

until we finished the protocol.

> > >

> > > This is what we did with remarkable results: 20 minutes pulsing, wait 20

minutes, 2 hours zapping, wait 20 minutes, drink colloidal silver, wait 20

minutes, drink ozonated water. Our relative was off morphine altogether after

just 3 days. We also gave vitamin B17 and Essiac Tea.

> > >

> > > We then waited 1 hour and repeated the process increasing the pulsing to

45 minutes and the zapping time to 3 hours. A lot of work but very effective.

> > >

> > > Even with the meds still given there were no problems with electroporation

at all.

> > >

> > > We noticed a green coloured fluid coming out of her pores which we

believed to be the Chemo she had.

> > >

> > > Hope this helps,

> > >

> > > RB

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: Victor_Alcazar <victor_alcazar@>

> > >

> > > Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2011 1:10 AM

> > > Subject: blood electrification in patients

using morphine

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > My mother has cancer stage 4 (lung, breast and spreading). She takes

morphine to help with the pain. We have all the equipment to follow the Beck

protocol. Do you recommend to do the blood electrification or is it not

recommended because of electroporation?

> > > As I know, my mom is taking morphine a couple of times per day.

> > >

> > > Thank you for your inputs,

> > >

> > > Victor

> > >

> >

>