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At 13:54 12.03.99 -0500, you wrote:

>Dear, Dusan!

>I hope you can help me with any information that you may have!

>I am 30 years old and a week ago was diagnosed with malignant melanoma.

>The doctor removed my mole on the leg in order to examine the stage of the

disease. I will know what stage I have next week.Now doctor hopes that it

is second or less.

>Now I am pregnant with my second child(1.5 months pregnancy).

>I got very scared and not sure what should I do.

>I want to keep the baby and be able to take care about my kids.

>I will appreciate any advice that you can give me.

>Thank you very much

>Tatyana

This is what I would do:

1.Avoid all everyday toxins !

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2.Stop eating foods that kill!

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3.Start eating a lot of fresh vegetable juices. I would purchase juicer.

4. Start with Johana Budwig diet !

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5. Adjust your diet for your blood type !

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Eat fruits, fish soups, vegetable, grains and grain sprouts, occasionaly

beens, seaweed , ...

5. Wash your skin and melanoma with H2O2, Hydrogen Peroxide, food grade, 6%.

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Cancer cells die in the presence of oxygen.

6. Put fresh flaxseed oil on the tumor, if you still have it.

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Avoid dental cleanse !

Avoid Gallstones cleanse !

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Oatmeal Milk Bath

4 parts epsom salts

2 part Sea salt

* 1 part non fat powdered milk

1 part oatmeal ground to a very fine powder in a food processor a few

dribbles of sandlewood and patchouli oils to scent blend it all together, add

about 1/3 cup to a tub of nice warm water and mmmmm it felt GOOD!

Baby Bottum Bath

1/2 Cup Powdered Milk

1/4 Cup Cornstartch

1/4 Honey

5-7 Drops Rose Oil (if not available don't worry)

2-3 Tbsp. Distilled Water

In a blender or food processor combine powdered milk, cornstarch, honey, and

rose oil. Add distilled water slowly until mixture becomes a smooth paste.

Add to running water. Soak for 10-20 minutes.

NOTE:This milk bath should be stored in a glass or plastic container in a

cool, dry place.

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At 10:06 AM 04/20/2000 EDT, you wrote:

>HB1489 passed through the House in Missouri. This requires MORE

>immunizations for children (chicken pox and Hep A). We also tried to add an

>amendment that allows for a philosophical exemption for ALL childhood

>vaccines. They felt they were really compromising by allowing for a

>philosophical exemption ONLY for chicken pox and Hep A. That's about

useless

>if you ask me. It still has to pass through the Senate. I am writing

>several newspapers and I am going to call my local TV stations. I want to

>make a big issue about the autism/vaccine hearings that recently took place

>in Washington, DC. I want people to understand why philosophical exemptions

>are so important. I taped the rebroadcast yesterday, but haven't had a

>chance to watch it. I was wondering if anyone has info about Dan Burton and

>what started him on this whole vaccine issue. I really need to sound

>informed when I call.

>Thank you

>

Sounds like Merck has been active in Missouri as well as Ohio, buying

votes. YOu may want to check that angle.

He started on this issue because his granddaughter stopped breathing right

after Hep B shot and his grandson has autism after multiple shots. He

tells this story at the beginning of the hearing.

Some it also is in the written testimony - he actually said more at the

hearing than is in his written testimony.

http://www.house.gov/reform/hearings/healthcare/00.06.04/index.htm

" I don’t have to read a letter to experience the heartbreak. I see it in my

own family. {Slide 1} My

grandson Christian was born healthy. He was beautiful and tall. We

were already planning his NBA

career. He was outgoing and talkative. He enjoyed company and going

places. Then, his mother

took him for his routine immunizations and all of that changed. He

was given what so many children

were given – DTaP, OPV, Haemophilus, Hepatitis B, and MMR – all at one

office visit. That night

Christian had a slight fever and he slept for long periods of time.

When he was awake he would

scream a horrible high-pitched scream. He would scream for hours. He

began dragging his head

on the furniture and banging it repeatedly. Over the week-and-a-half

after the vaccinations, Christian

would stare into space and act like he was deaf. He would hit himself

and others, which was

something he had never done. He would shake his head from side to

side as fast as he could. He

lost all language. "

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The doctors thought I had lyme disease when I

went about my knees too. They tested and it was

negative. My legs are sore all the time, but I have also

been diagnosed with RSD. Not sure if my soreness is

from the RSD, the Chondro, or just from lack of use.

Since all of this I really can't do much. Since walking

hurts I try not to do it too much. Which could cause

the muscle aches that I feel. Not

sure.<br><br><br>Jessy

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As far as I know, all hospitals have a patient's bill of rights. They are

not allowed to do anything to you or your baby without permission. However,

they WILL try, so don't give them an inch. Don't let your baby out of your

sight for even a second. If possible have baby's daddy and a trusted

friend/family member there as well. That way if you need immediate

attention, there will still be someone watching out for your baby. Stick to

your convictions. It is when you are tired from labor and very hormonal :)

that they will attack and try to scare you into something. It happened to

me and my husband.

By the way, does anyone know whether the PKU is mandatory by law, with or

without a hospital birth?

-- need info

hi all, im mostly a lurker here, trying to learn all i can. i'll be

having babe #3 very soon and will not vacc. her. unfortunatly my husband

does not agree with an unassisted homebirth,wich was my dream. he agrees

with no vacc. than god! my problem is im terrified of how pushy i know

the hosp. will be about the shots, and the eye ointment. my ob insists

the ointment is mandatory in mass. icant seem to find much info. on its

safety or if its really a law in mass. im hoping to get out of hosp.

asap. i dont even want anyone else laying a finger on her. will this be

possible in a hosp? will they try to sic cps on me if im too

uncoorprative? any info or advice is greatly appreciated.

thanks,

melanie

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The PKU is mandatory but I refused it and my midwife just had me sign a paper of

refusal and that was the end of that!

Suzanne

Ohio

need info

hi all, im mostly a lurker here, trying to learn all i can. i'll be

having babe #3 very soon and will not vacc. her. unfortunatly my husband

does not agree with an unassisted homebirth,wich was my dream. he agrees

with no vacc. than god! my problem is im terrified of how pushy i know

the hosp. will be about the shots, and the eye ointment. my ob insists

the ointment is mandatory in mass. icant seem to find much info. on its

safety or if its really a law in mass. im hoping to get out of hosp.

asap. i dont even want anyone else laying a finger on her. will this be

possible in a hosp? will they try to sic cps on me if im too

uncoorprative? any info or advice is greatly appreciated.

thanks,

melanie

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Hi ,

As your dh is the one insisting on the hospital birth, maybe you should

insist on him taking responsibility for making sure that your new babe

*doesn't* get any vaxes! You are vulnerable when you've just given birth -

and even here in the UK where vaxing isn't mandatory, they still try and

make you feel like some sort of monster if you argue with the Vit K!!

Would your dh compromise with an *assisted* home birth? I know things are

different in the US, but is that an option? Alternatively, just don't tell

him you're in labour until things are too far gone to get to the hospital in

time for the delivery?

Nothing is mandatory here at present - I think most UK mothers would be

completely baffled by the eye ointment, and many do refuse the Vit K. I

would have refused the PKU, but they did it behind my back when the paed did

her *nursery* rounds. I was in the loo! I realise that vaxing is mandatory

unless you have the proper exemption in the US, but can you not get the same

exemption on medication like the eye ointment that you can for vaxes.

I cannot understand a culture which forcefully medicates like you have in

the US. I cannot imagine giving medics that much power. But I do

understand how intimidating they can be. My blood pressure went up a lot

after I had my babe, and I was shut in a side room with an intimidating

midwife and a power-happy, " I-am-God " mentality junior doctor who leaned

against the door threateningly and said I wouldn't be released from hospital

until I agreed to medication (which was contra-indicated for a b/f mum)

which would prevent me from dropping dead from this *silent killer* - after

all, how could I look after my baby if I was dead?

Hold your ground and let them know from the outset that you will not

tolerate any interference in your baby's health. Threaten them with an

assualt charge if they do anything without your permission. And make sure

your dh advocates for you!!

Good luck! :o)

Love, light and peace,

Sue

" He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a

fool forever. " ~ Chinese proverb

> need info

>

>

> hi all, im mostly a lurker here, trying to learn all i can. i'll be

> having babe #3 very soon and will not vacc. her. unfortunatly my husband

> does not agree with an unassisted homebirth,wich was my dream. he agrees

> with no vacc. than god! my problem is im terrified of how pushy i know

> the hosp. will be about the shots, and the eye ointment. my ob insists

> the ointment is mandatory in mass. icant seem to find much info. on its

> safety or if its really a law in mass. im hoping to get out of hosp.

> asap. i dont even want anyone else laying a finger on her. will this be

> possible in a hosp? will they try to sic cps on me if im too

> uncoorprative? any info or advice is greatly appreciated.

> thanks,

> melanie

>

>

>

>

>

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Uh.....hospitals will also give your baby things you are not given papers to

sign for! One thing you can do to prevent that is NEVER LET THEM TAKE YOUR BABY

OUT OF YOUR ROOM!!! And if at all possible, always have a friend with you so

that no one takes your baby out when your eyes are shut. If they insist they

need to perform a test...make them do that in your room too. Like an iron blood

test or something. You do what it takes to be sure the hospital doesn't try

anything under your nose. I know my words sound like the words of a " crazy "

mother. However, it's modern medicine that's given us every reason not trust

the docs and hospitals. You watch what they do to your baby like a hawk!

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/local/7381336.htm

Kimberley

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Are you aware that aborted fetal tissue is used in the development and

manufacture of vaccines? Read more about this and other startling facts about

vaccines at http://www.cogforlife.org and http://www.vaccinetruth.org

Here's a list of vaccine ingredients (chick embryo, formaldehyde, aluminum

hydroxide, mercury, aborted fetus tissue, gelatin-boiled pig skin, monkey kidney

tissue, boiled cow skin, coagulated horse blood...etc) from Centers for Disease

Control http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pink/Appendices/A/Excipient.pdf

Ask the US government what your pediatrician can't answer nipinfo@...

I Corinthians 3:16 " Do you not know that you yourselves are God's temple and

that God's Spirit lives in you?...for God's temple is sacred, and you are that

temple. "

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I refused the Hep vax at the hospital by telling them I was having it done at

the Peds office at her first visit (NOT).

Amy

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>

>

> hi all, im mostly a lurker here, trying to learn all i can. i'll be

> having babe #3 very soon and will not vacc. her. unfortunatly my husband

> does not agree with an unassisted homebirth,wich was my dream. he agrees

> with no vacc. than god! my problem is im terrified of how pushy i know

> the hosp. will be about the shots, and the eye ointment. my ob insists

> the ointment is mandatory in mass. icant seem to find much info. on its

> safety or if its really a law in mass. im hoping to get out of hosp.

> asap. i dont even want anyone else laying a finger on her. will this be

> possible in a hosp? will they try to sic cps on me if im too

> uncoorprative? any info or advice is greatly appreciated.

> thanks,

> melanie

>

>

>

>

>

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As far as I understand it, the PKU is mandatory. The midwife/doctor/whoever

pricks the baby's heel and collects blood samples onto this card with 5

circles on it. It's sent off to a lab and the results are sent to your

ped/family doctor/whoever. Then it's repeated at 2 weeks old. The baby is

never " given " anything, they are just collecting blood samples for 5

screenings.

My pediatrician said that the PKU test (which is really just the 5

screenings) done at birth is useless and they just throw out the results.

The screening done at 2 weeks is important because if the baby " fails " one

of these screenings they can do further tests to determine if there is a

problem. I know that these particular problems/disorders (that cause brain

damage) that the PKU test screens for are Easily managed by diet. As far as

I understand they do not push drugs for these problems/disorders.

As far as the rest of your post~ I Totally agree with everyone else. Don't

let the baby Out of your Sight. Make sure that Dad (or someone) goes to the

nursery with the baby and does NOT leave the baby alone Ever. My last baby

was born in the hospital and DH went and stayed with her in the nursery the

whole time. The nurse was Livid that he wouldn't leave. He told me later

that he just Knew that if he left she would have given our baby the HepB

shot...

As a doula, I always tell my clients that if you're going to be in the

hospital, you need to remember it's Their " territory " so to speak and be

prepared for that. Make sure you have a concise birth plan With a section on

Baby Care covered in it. Many times clients of mine have had to compromise

somewhat by, for example, allowing the eye goop but refusing the Vit.K shot~

or only allowing the oral Vit.K... Pick your battles and Smile A Lot ;-) Be

nice about it. I told the 2 on-call peds who came to see me after our baby

was born that we " were thinking about the HepB. We'd discuss it later "

smiling all the time (even though I wanted to hit both of them for being so

rude). Neither one liked that at all, but they were ok with me discussing it

with our regular ped ;-) The old adage " honey attracts more bees than

vinegar " kept running through my head the whole time I was there ;-)

Jan

El Paso, TX

Mom to 8

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(The baby is

never " given " anything, they are just collecting blood samples for 5

screenings.)

I take it you never heard of the E-Ferol incident in the 80's

NEVER ASSUME that a child is never given anything without your consent. I'm not

saying kids/infants are always given something without your consent. Just NEVER

take any chance of putting too much trust in the doctors and nurses tending to

your baby. You watch them with your child like a hawk!

Take a closer look with the below link:

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/local/7381336.htm

Kimberley

--------signature-------------

Are you aware that aborted fetal tissue is used in the development and

manufacture of vaccines? Read more about this and other startling facts about

vaccines at http://www.cogforlife.org and http://www.vaccinetruth.org

Here's a list of vaccine ingredients (chick embryo, formaldehyde, aluminum

hydroxide, mercury, aborted fetus tissue, gelatin-boiled pig skin, monkey kidney

tissue, boiled cow skin, coagulated horse blood...etc) from Centers for Disease

Control http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pink/Appendices/A/Excipient.pdf

Ask the US government what your pediatrician can't answer nipinfo@...

I Corinthians 3:16 " Do you not know that you yourselves are God's temple and

that God's Spirit lives in you?...for God's temple is sacred, and you are that

temple. "

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When I said this~ " The baby is never " given " anything, they are just

collecting blood samples for 5 screenings. " I was Specifically and Only

talking about the PKU samples taken, not Anything Else. I have always been

Right There when they took the samples, too, to keep an eye on them because

I Don't trust them.

Of course we all need to watch our newborns in the hospital every second,

that's what I said in my post also.

Jan G.

El Paso, TX

Mom to 8

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oh, okay! =)

.............oh, my goodness....you have 8 kids?!?!?!?! Are they all

yours?!?!?!? WOW....!!! That's just amazing. Hands out to you!

Kimberley

When I said this~ " The baby is never " given " anything, they are just

collecting blood samples for 5 screenings. " I was Specifically and Only

talking about the PKU samples taken, not Anything Else. I have always been

Right There when they took the samples, too, to keep an eye on them because

I Don't trust them.

Of course we all need to watch our newborns in the hospital every second,

that's what I said in my post also.

Jan G.

El Paso, TX

Mom to 8

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any info or advice is greatly appreciated.

thanks,

melanie

,

I went into the hospital with a pretyped refusal to vax which stated, " this

letter is to serve as an affidavit stating that immunizations are contrary to

what i believe is healthy for my child. Health & Safety Code #3385 states that

it is my legal right to decline such vaccinations for my child. "

It was dated and signed by both my husband and myself. I ended up delivering

my son by c-sec. while i was being drugged up and not allowed to have my son

in the room with me unless someone else was in the room with me(they felt i

couldn't get out of bed to care for him properly) after i had written " REFUSED "

across their Vaccine Administration Record & Consent form(which i still have

copies of),they waited until i was asleep and cornered by husband outside my

room, with an official from the hospitals " social services dept " (prob bs)and told

him that unless he signed we would not be allowed to leave the hospital with

our son. Unarmed with our legal rights(he agrees with the no-vax, but isn't as

familiar with our rights), he signed. On that form it has checked the HepB,exp

date, mfr,lot, & site. Then below next to a blank entry the is an exp,diff mfr

name, diff lot# written, and a diff site of injection written. To this day i

have no idea what that was!

Stay out of the hospitals if at all possible!

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oh my Gosh.. that's ludicrous! I can't believe how hospitals just do whatever

they want to do! Before my son was born I called my doctor to see if it was

mandatory at our hospital and they said no. Luckily they have the policy not to

do it unless authorized. Unbelievable. I'm sorry this happened to you. I wonder

if you could go do something about this.

Re:need info

any info or advice is greatly appreciated.

thanks,

melanie

,

I went into the hospital with a pretyped refusal to vax which stated, " this

letter is to serve as an affidavit stating that immunizations are contrary to

what i believe is healthy for my child. Health & Safety Code #3385 states that

it is my legal right to decline such vaccinations for my child. "

It was dated and signed by both my husband and myself. I ended up delivering

my son by c-sec. while i was being drugged up and not allowed to have my son

in the room with me unless someone else was in the room with me(they felt i

couldn't get out of bed to care for him properly) after i had written

" REFUSED "

across their Vaccine Administration Record & Consent form(which i still have

copies of),they waited until i was asleep and cornered by husband outside my

room, with an official from the hospitals " social services dept " (prob bs)and

told

him that unless he signed we would not be allowed to leave the hospital with

our son. Unarmed with our legal rights(he agrees with the no-vax, but isn't as

familiar with our rights), he signed. On that form it has checked the HepB,exp

date, mfr,lot, & site. Then below next to a blank entry the is an exp,diff mfr

name, diff lot# written, and a diff site of injection written. To this day i

have no idea what that was!

Stay out of the hospitals if at all possible!

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My baby wasn't given the PKU at the hospital. I was sent something via

smail from the state of Louisiana saying that she needed to have it done

though. Had it done when she was older at the local health unit.

Alison in Louisiana, extended breastfeeding, co-sleeping,

cloth-diapering, non-vaccinating sahm to:

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Ursula: 12-22-02 (my waterbirth baby!) ---> http://ursula.esmartkid.com

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On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:01:51 -0600 (Central Standard Time) "

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> By the way, does anyone know whether the PKU is mandatory by law,

> with or

> without a hospital birth?

>

>

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Hi ,

You'll need to draw up a birth plan and bring it to your OB/midwife

before you go in to deliver the baby. Go over it with them and have them

sign it.

I had a CNM with my 2nd baby and she understood what I wanted and didn't

want and made sure I had the birth I wanted. I had NO drugs entering my

body. I had a natural, vaginal birth in a birthing tub... no tears

either.

My baby NEVER left my room/sight. There was no crib in our room either.

She received NO injections, NO eye ointments, or anything else. She was

given directly to me for at least the first 20 min. I let them have her

to weigh when I was birthing the placenta. Her cord wasn't cut until it

stopped pulsating. I was given my baby back after they did the

measurements and all in MY room.

Even though I have been wanting a unassisted homebirth since before my

firstborn's birth... my 2nd baby's birth was pretty good considering it

was in a hospital. I intend on finally having a homebirth for my 3rd...

whenever that shall be. My SO was scared of having a homebirth...

hopefully he has seen the light by the time the next one comes around :D

You might want to hire a doula to help talk for you while you're in labor

or distracted or whatever... to make sure you get what you want.

HTH,

Alison in Louisiana, extended breastfeeding, co-sleeping,

cloth-diapering, non-vaccinating sahm to:

Calista: 2-13-99 ---> http://calista.esmartkid.com

Ursula: 12-22-02 (my waterbirth baby!) ---> http://ursula.esmartkid.com

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On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 12:02:41 -0500 (EST) therawdog@... writes:

> im terrified of how pushy i know

> the hosp. will be about the shots, and the eye ointment. my ob insists

> the ointment is mandatory in mass. icant seem to find much info. on

its

> safety or if its really a law in mass. im hoping to get out of hosp.

> asap. i dont even want anyone else laying a finger on her. will this

be

> possible in a hosp? will they try to sic cps on me if im too

> uncoorprative? any info or advice is greatly appreciated.

> thanks,

> melanie

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I do believe that this is a state by state thing. My midwife said that it

was optional, but I didn't see the harm in it, so we had it done.

Sara

> As far as I understand it, the PKU is mandatory. The

midwife/doctor/whoever

> pricks the baby's heel and collects blood samples onto this card with 5

> circles on it.

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Man, hospitals stink for giving birth!! I am glad that my son was born at

home, I never had to worry about anyone doing anything to him or taking him

anywhere. My biggest concern was what bowl they put the placenta in!

I know that it was mentioned in the original post that your husband refused

to let you go unassisted, my husband and i have had that same discussion and

insists that if I try that he will call 911, but what about a midwife

assisted birth? If he has doubts about that, then tell him to write down

every single fear he has about a homebirth, meet with a few different

midwives and tell him to voice his fears, chances are good that after he

talks to them, he will feel comfortable with it and if he doesn't then, oh

well, you gave it your best shot. my dh was against a homebirth, but that

is how I got him to change his mind. Seriously, it was a wonderful

experience and NO ONE did anything or gave anything to my baby that I didn't

request.

Sara

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> (The baby is

> never " given " anything, they are just collecting blood samples for 5

> screenings.)

> I take it you never heard of the E-Ferol incident in the 80's

> NEVER ASSUME that a child is never given anything without your consent.

I'm not saying kids/infants are always given something without your consent.

Just NEVER take any chance of putting too much trust in the doctors and

nurses tending to your baby. You watch them with your child like a hawk!

>

> Take a closer look with the below link:

> http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/local/7381336.htm

>

> Kimberley

>

> --------signature-------------

> Are you aware that aborted fetal tissue is used in the development and

manufacture of vaccines? Read more about this and other startling facts

about vaccines at http://www.cogforlife.org and http://www.vaccinetruth.org

>

> Here's a list of vaccine ingredients (chick embryo, formaldehyde, aluminum

hydroxide, mercury, aborted fetus tissue, gelatin-boiled pig skin, monkey

kidney tissue, boiled cow skin, coagulated horse blood...etc) from Centers

for Disease Control

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pink/Appendices/A/Excipient.pdf

>

> Ask the US government what your pediatrician can't answer nipinfo@...

>

> I Corinthians 3:16 " Do you not know that you yourselves are God's temple

and that God's Spirit lives in you?...for God's temple is sacred, and you

are that temple. "

>

>

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Eye ointment - If you had a sexually transmitted disease while pregnant, this

can be passed to your baby and cause blindness. Rather than test for an STD

before applying the ointment, they simply apply it to all infants. Silver

nitrate used to be used, and it stung the baby's eyes, sometimes causing eye

problems later in life. Now it is more common to use Erythromycin, which does

not sting. However, many mothers object to their babies receiving a treatment

that is unnecessary, especially if they are in a monogamous relationship and

know they don't have an STD, or if they have been previously tested. This can

be dispensed with if you sign a waver. Click Here to read the medical

research studies which explain why choosing to forgoe the ointment is a

reasonable decision for parents to make because the treatment does not

significantly reduce infection, and many infants who receive the treatment

contraction the infection anyway.

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Can someone fill me in on what the purpose is of the eye ointment...Please.

Rhonda

Kenny 7yrs. old ASD, Adhd, Odd, DSI

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Yes, please be very careful with hospitals. I had a bad experience. I

had a fever and they had to assume the child had a fever (teaching

hospital-never go to one) They assume alot and don't care what the

parents say. They push and push and at your weakest moment. My husband

couldn't go in to the Nursery during testing, it was not aloud. They

never told us that, they told us we were able to stay with her. They

tell you what you want to hear and then when the times comes they do

what they want. They did everything I didn't want done to my child. At

least they didn't give her the Hep vaccine. From chest x-rays to

antibiotics to feeding her formula to not feeding her for one day after

she was born. HORRIBLE experience, then you get the bill and see

everything they did, and I just broke down when I saw it. Be very

strong. I was weak and emotional and kept telling my husband, please

don't cause an uproar, I just want out of here. I should of let him

take over. Maybe these things could've been prevented.

erinrmos@... wrote:

>

>

> any info or advice is greatly appreciated.

>

> thanks,

>

> melanie

>

> ,

> I went into the hospital with a pretyped refusal to vax which

> stated, " this

> letter is to serve as an affidavit stating that immunizations are

> contrary to

> what i believe is healthy for my child. Health & Safety Code #3385

> states that

> it is my legal right to decline such vaccinations for my child. "

>

> It was dated and signed by both my husband and myself. I ended up

> delivering

> my son by c-sec. while i was being drugged up and not allowed to have

> my son

> in the room with me unless someone else was in the room with me(they

> felt i

> couldn't get out of bed to care for him properly) after i had written

> " REFUSED "

> across their Vaccine Administration Record & Consent form(which i

> still have

> copies of),they waited until i was asleep and cornered by husband

> outside my

> room, with an official from the hospitals " social services dept " (prob

> bs)and told

> him that unless he signed we would not be allowed to leave the

> hospital with

> our son. Unarmed with our legal rights(he agrees with the no-vax, but

> isn't as

> familiar with our rights), he signed. On that form it has checked the

> HepB,exp

> date, mfr,lot, & site. Then below next to a blank entry the is an

> exp,diff mfr

> name, diff lot# written, and a diff site of injection written. To this

> day i

> have no idea what that was!

>

> Stay out of the hospitals if at all possible!

>

>

>

>

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it isn't only to prevent blindness from an std, it is also applied to kill

any bacteria that the baby may have come into contact with in the birth

canal. I didn't have it put into my son's eyes at birth, he did pick up

some bacteria and had a bit of an eye infection, but it wasn't that big of a

deal.

Sara

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>

>

> Can someone fill me in on what the purpose is of the eye

ointment...Please.

>

> Rhonda

> Kenny 7yrs. old ASD, Adhd, Odd, DSI

>

>

>

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Hi , I'm in Columbus, Ohio depending on your situation I would Consult

Dr. Mallory on E. Broad. He is not an active surgeon but he will knowledgeably

direct you to one of his associates who would best fit your needs. I believe

they have a website if I can find it I'll let you know and also if you'd like

I'll give you the number for their office, it's a lovely place.

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