Guest guest Posted August 15, 1999 Report Share Posted August 15, 1999 That is why you need the pressure that only HBOT can give, why not come on out and try it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 1999 Report Share Posted August 16, 1999 Dear Vilik, Interesting site. One question : how does he explain the extreme good health enjoyed by pilots, many of whom breathe 100% oxygen every day for hours? What happens to the level of CO2 in their lungs? And what about hyperbaric chambers, where people breathe pure oxygen for hours on end, under pressure? Until I see some reasonable answer to these questions, I will not be advising anyone to become a shallow breather to beat asthma. We have had excellent success with dozens of persons suffering from asthma by having them breathe ozone bubbled through olive oil. And most of them breathe quite deeply. So where is the CO2 theory then? Also, I don't think that there was 20% CO2 in the atmosphere recently. I think you would have to go back long before the advent of mankind to find those kind of levels; to before there were many land plants. That would be before the Carboniferous Era. Interestingly, he advocates breathing through the nostrils only, especially at night, and sleeping on the left side for 5 - 6 hours. I do all three of these instinctively. Best of Health! Saul Pressman URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... Join our mailing list and learn about ozone therapy at: /subscribe/ozonetherapy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 1999 Report Share Posted August 16, 1999 Saul, I tried it with the olive oil, How much flow? I seemed to bubble to much, I did not feel much, Maybe I was doing it wrong? By the way people do not breathe 02 in a chamber for hours, usually one hour, or a 90 with air breaks if very deep, I would give an air break even at a low ata if I were to put anyone in over an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 1999 Report Share Posted August 16, 1999 I find this discussion very interesting. Let me explain my position. I have IPF which is an autoimmune disease of the lungs. It is a very serious disease with one outcome. Death from fibrosis of the lungs causing limited gas diffusion across them. So I have experienced all of what I have seen talked about with this line of thought. I have learned that one has to be very careful with 02. It can cause toxicity in the body. I have found that high rates of 02 inhalation can effect the way the body operates. With me, I have found that if I keep my rates to high, the body uses the high saturation to override the reaction to high CO2 build up. This can cause serious problems to the acidity in the body. One starts to have headaches and a steady downhill sequence of events from it. Then I have to cut back the saturation rates so as to increase the respiratory rate to get the C02 out of the system. I have found the most favorable saturation rate for me to be about 92%. But that is for me to get a balance of these factors that I need. But this should be a warning to others in this regard to the high use of 02. I have seen some reports in flight medicine in regard to 02 use by them also. There is some problems with that also. And with some hyperbaric use too. But I sure am not in a position to speculate on that. Only from my own use. As of the last few days, I have had to spot and deal with this problem. I have been having some infection problems. We get these from the lung diseases and from 02 use with the sinuses. I have had some problems controlling them even with antibiotics. So I have been working some with ozone in this matter. I have had a few problems to work out but have ended up making some devices to help with this. I have been using ozone in the ears and head area for these infections. I have found ways to limit the inhalation of ozone to a great extent. But last night I noticed hat I was having night headaches. This doesn't happen with me much. When it does, it is from to much 02 and the increased COO retention from it. I have been cutting back my 02 today and have learned that my need for 02 has dropped from before the ozone. I am not sure if this is because of clearing infection or from another approach to my 02 requirements effected by the ozone. But it will be very interesting to work with to find out. I hope this is of aid to those out there in regard to high 02 use. I am not finding fault with it at all. I use it 24 hours a day for over 2.5 years now. But it does take some testing and watching and understanding as to what some of the problems can be. I have found that there is much out there that the standard doctors must learn as to the use of 02. I have seen this in my case a number of times. It is treated much to lightly. I have found that one needs to track ones saturation rates and adjust 02 flow to the immediate needs of ones body. Otherwise problems can arise. Gene Downey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 1999 Report Share Posted August 16, 1999 Gene, That is a very compelling story. I am not using O2 at present, but I wish to, so I have paid attention. I have one question for you, though: How much aerobic exercise do you get daily? I would think the quantity & intensity of aerobic exercise would moderate the effects you report. jim -- jim@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry The biggest difference between genius & stupidity is that genius has its limits. -- anony amicus certus in re incerta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 1999 Report Share Posted August 16, 1999 In a message dated 8/16/99 12:30:05 PM Central Daylight Time, jlambert@... writes: << That is a very compelling story. I am not using O2 at present, but I wish to, so I have paid attention. I have one question for you, though: How much aerobic exercise do you get daily? I would think the quantity & intensity of aerobic exercise would moderate the effects you report. >> I also believe this. In fact, I have some information from several other suffers that tell me the same story. I get out a lot and walk and do things but I do not do intensive exercise as yet. I suffered from a very serious case of fibromyalgia that incapacitated me for a period of about 6 months. It almost paralyzed my right arm and shoulder. It took me that long to discover the final " cure " for that one. But since then, I could get back to more exercise. Then I started to suffer from the onset of the infections that I was speaking about. They wore me down also and dropped my diffusion rates drastically. But I feel I am now over coming that problem also. At least from what I have seen over the last few days. So we shall see. But exercise can play a very big part in this. But one needs to be able to breath to do them. When you drop way down on the diffusion rate and are using 4 liters per minute to walk and your saturation still drops into the high 80% range, it saps a great deal from you. But I have whipped it before and am trying again. I was told in the summer of 97 that I had 6 months to a year at most. To check on a hospice. So I sure out lasted that deal. Ha, ha! Gene Downey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 1999 Report Share Posted August 17, 1999 > I was told in the summer of 97 that I had 6 months to a > year at most. To check on a hospice. So I sure out lasted that deal. Ha, > ha! Gene, I'm in my sixth year after being given 1/2 to 2 years to live. I laugh every time I think about it! Hang in there. God bless & good luck! jim -- jim@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry The biggest difference between genius & stupidity is that genius has its limits. -- anony amicus certus in re incerta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 1999 Report Share Posted August 17, 1999 Sounds like someone wanted to you to hang around and be a blessing to others. Thanks Jim. Blessings, Zell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Anyone hear about EWOT (exercise with oxygen therapy)? I have been told that my sleep function might return (after 40 years) with this protocol - after maybe 6-8 weeks. In researching EWOT last night, I found a FAQ page that said if your pH is low (meaning acidic) that EWOT can be harmful, however, others say it helps fibro patients tremendously. I take an OPC supplement daily to get oxygen to my brain and also sniff a certain essential oil blend that affects the limbic portion of my brain. Without these things, I wilt like a dandelion. My husband mentioned last year that he thinks I need oxygen. So when I heard about EWOT, I was intrigued! Has anyone tried this? The thought of being able to sleep naturally on my own again without meds is very enticing! - Dom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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