Re: WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO Drs. Lyman and Kaali

[Guest guest]

I called, and the receptionist at Einstein College some years ago asked if I

wanted to talk with Dr. Kaali. At the time I said " no " . He is around. You

might call him if curious. His original statement was that he felt around 15

years of research would be needed to follow up his lab study. remember at the

time they thought HIV was mainly a blood disease, and it is later found not to

be, so blood electrification would not work on it in the body. I asked some

other medical people and they confirmed that part. Only some strains of HIV can

even live in blood, while others live in the gut linings making up over 80

percent of HIV in the body. If it's not in the blood, then electrifying the

blood only cleans the blood so it can attack invaders. But HIV hides from the

immune system and the bloodstream. Recently someone on this list tried beck's

protocol 5 times in full over 2 years without HIV meds. His cd4 went from

normal to almost full blown AIDS, and viral load rose from undetectable on meds,

to over 100,000 on beck. DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR MEDS. If anything use beck along

with them, to possibly get a bump, but monitor very closely in case this

backfires somehow. Don't expect to live forever on meds, don't expect to get

well with beck. Using both might help, or might not. That BS about drug

poration has not been seen in any significant numbers, so ... go for it.

Russ has done a study at SOTA's expense on malaria which IS blood borne, which

showed very promising results, yet the medical community shot it down due to not

meeting their standards for study design, I think. Yet it worked quite

obviously, by test they all got fully recovered and tested negative in just

days!!.. it is a very sensible public health measure that should be paid

attention to in malarial areas, which are spreading due to planet warming up.

Even if you don't like it as a scientist for a proven cure or treatment, if you

catch it, believe me you will use it (if you read that study). There are, I've

come to believe, 2 worlds: the sick and the well, totally different motivations.

bG

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> What ever happend to Drs. Lyman and Kaali? dhas anybody ever

followed up on there research? has anybody ever ready anything that may follows

up on there carrers or there opinion on bob becks protocol?

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[Guest guest]

I thought bob beck said that his protocol did wonders with aids ?

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> What ever happend to Drs. Lyman and Kaali? dhas anybody ever

followed up on there research? has anybody ever ready anything that may follows

up on there carrers or there opinion on bob becks protocol?

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[Guest guest]

I think it may save a life with AIDS by fighting off opportunistic infections,

but you would have to then be on beck protocol everyday forever, since no immune

system would be left due to HIV infection, which he also said it would defeat

(and it does not).

Remember when he said that, nothing was really known about the hidden locations

of HIV reservoirs in the body. He had no idea what exactly was going on. It

was not until 2006-2007 the info was available. Had he lived, he undoubtedly

would have taken this into account, but he died before it became known. And no,

magnetic pulsing will not work, the pulse is too short and too infrequent. 1mA

is good but only exists a few millionths of a second every 5 seconds. You meed

several minutes total time, and that would take hundreds of millions of pulses.

bG

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> > What ever happend to Drs. Lyman and Kaali? dhas anybody ever

followed up on there research? has anybody ever ready anything that may follows

up on there carrers or there opinion on bob becks protocol?

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[Guest guest]

With beck protocol, importantly, you can fix the things making them sick. But

the underlying ruined immune system means either life in a bubble, or something

like beck's protocol always handy to use instead of the normal immune functions.

This could be a life-saver. Should meds fail, it is the ONLY answer, I think

that is one little-used option that should be taken into the public health arena

as a last-chance approach.

Beck's patients were in the category of dying of AIDS-related infections. I

have no doubt he got rid of those infections, like pneumonia and about 23 known

indicator infections for AIDS. The protocol is capable of " reaching " them. But

the cd4 (t-cell) counts were not part of the recovery. The people could be well

today, dead in two weeks, without an immune defense. They " got well " , went back

to work, gained weight. That is wonderful. But the condition under it will

remain and needs constant attention. You can't just walk away and think things

are fine. T-cell counts can rise and fall over time greatly, reaching a plateau

known as the " set point " , where the virus and the body's defenses are about

evenly matched. It takes years to reach the set point, which can be stable for

10 years or more, with some spikes up and down, almost at random. Then the

viral load shoots up, cd4 shoots down below 200, and the person usually dies

within months or a year or two if the meds cannot save them. They don't have to

die if beck's protocol is used (in my opinion at this time). But they cannot

ever get fully well again, either.

Beck said that the meds should not be used if his protcol is used, and now meds

people are saying Beck should not be used if the meds are not used. No testing

using meds PLUS beck's protocol exists that I could find.

Patients with low cd4 counts, way down there, where set point is no longer

working, are referred to as " salvage patients " . Usually they don't regain

immunity quickly once cured of the ills they have, they stay compromised. Beck

worked miracles with them, saved their lives for a time. You can do the same

should you ever get in that situation.

AIDS, however, means your immunity is compromised to where it is not just a

matter of the diseases du jour, of curing what bugs you have onboard today.

EVERY time a bug is around you probably will get and could die from it, if you

have AIDS. The people who do not have AIDS yet, who are heading in that

direction, may find beck is not effective, as some have.

bG

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> > I thought bob beck said that his protocol did wonders with aids ?

[Guest guest]

I personally have all the beck protocol devices and consider it a very first

line defense. It is not by itself 100% effective for everything, but providing

you are not abandoning standard treatments, then I would NEVER discourage anyone

from using it as an adjunct, and for some things, by itself (like Malaria).

bG

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> With beck protocol, importantly, you can fix the things making them sick. But

the underlying ruined immune system means either life in a bubble, or something

like beck's protocol always handy to use instead of the normal immune functions.

This could be a life-saver. Should meds fail, it is the ONLY answer, I think

that is one little-used option that should be taken into the public health arena

as a last-chance approach.

[Guest guest]

hey p[lease forgive me but i am just trying to bring up some points that i remember a few years back that was brought up? does anybody remember when the makers of the sota instruments claimed to have gone to Africa and gotten rid of some hiv cases and some malera cases with the silver pulsar or the beck protocol? what about that?

[Guest guest]

no problem, amos, sorry if this felt wrong,did not mean that. sota did a

malaria study in Africa (I think) a few years back. AIDS was done by beck in

mexico, and again later by russ of SOTA on a separate small AIDS group in

Canada. They both cleaned up OI's (infections) to where symptoms gone.

But SOTA cannot comment on medical uses of the devices they sell these days due

to govt rulings about how they present their products.

And Beck died without publishing his case histories due to HIPAA privacy rules

requiring peer-review published results first, even without using the names of

patients. No peers wanted to review it.

I thought the malaria study was miraculous, and only used the beck blood

electrifier, it did not even need the whole protocol, yet the patients were

cured of malaria in days, all of them, or the ones they could test, which

numerically was far beyond chance.

best,

bG

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> hey p[lease forgive me but i am just trying to bring up some points that

i remember a few years back that was brought up? does anybody remember when the

makers of the sota instruments claimed to have gone to Africa and gotten rid of

some hiv cases  and some malera cases with the silver pulsar or the beck

protocol? what about that? 

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