enzymes

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Luiz Moreira wrote:

Luiz,

Thanks for the input. But, I still disagree about the importance of Ph &

temperature, as well as the need for enteric coating the enzymes to pass the

stomach. In Dr. Howell's book, Enzyme Nutrition, he explains in great detail

what happens at each phase of digestion from the upper stomach where enzyme

action is supposed to begin for most foods. He details the Ph changes, from

upper to lower stomach, small & large intestines, which are supposed to turn

ezyme action on and off. And, shows that enzymes being destroyed by stomach acid

to be a

fallacy, since they do survive. Further, that temperatures also turn them on

and off, and in the case of some enzymes, they simply don't work at normal human

body temperatures.

In the case of people like myself, with an underactive thyroid, my body

temperature is even lower, which is why I have further trouble digesting food.

This is also a good reason for not drinking cold liquids with meals.

My reason for believing so strongly in what I do is because the enzymes I am now

taking are working, where digestive enzymes I have taken all my life did not

work, and were made up mostly of the enzymes I have listed as being active at

the wrong temp or Ph. Dr. Howell's book is decades old and should be in

libraries to read. The paperback costs $7.16 at

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/generic-quicksearch-query/002-3813645-4410200

and I understood more in the first 20 pages than I had all my life.

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Jim,

What enzymes are you now taking? I too have thyroid problems and low temp.

Every time I go to Dr. and tell him, he does a blood test and says they are

in range and there is nothing he can do.

Edith

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Heavy metals cause low temperature, get a hair analysis done.

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Re: Enzymes

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Jim,

What enzymes are you now taking? I too have thyroid problems and low temp.

Every time I go to Dr. and tell him, he does a blood test and says they are

in range and there is nothing he can do.

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Es9525@... wrote:

> What enzymes are you now taking? I too have thyroid problems and low temp.

> Every time I go to Dr. and tell him, he does a blood test and says they are

> in range and there is nothing he can do.

>

> Edith

Edith,

It isn't simply what enzymes I am taking. I believe it is more important to

understand what is needed so you can recognize the ingredients on a label when

you see one. I have posted the list of ingredients 3 times in the last few

weeks. The company I buy from won't sell to the public. My chiropractor buddy

buys them for me. I recommend you read Enzyme Nutrition by Dr. Howell.

As for the lowered temperature and depressed thyroid, check out

http://www.wilsonssyndrome.com/default.htm for information to help you & your

doctor understand why he gets results he believes are normal.

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Just to clarify, I do take papaya enzymes, I take them as part of my parasite

cleansing. During this process I have noted that I do not digest potato. I do

not take the papaya to digest starches. But I was wondering if there is a

certain deficiency or condition that might cause the potatoes to not be digested

- I do digest rice.

> Hi Jim,

>

> I believe you should review your oppinion about bromelain, papain

> not being fit for human consumption due to pH. In Europe these

> enzymes are sold by millions of doses every day and they do work.

> For more information please visit the site of Mucos Pharma a German enzyme

> company that even have a free book on enzymes to be downloaded.

> http://www.mucos.de

>

> Recently some American companies have started to produce enzymes from

> Aspergillus ( I hope it is not A.niger because one small mistake could be

> fatal) and are saying that THEIR enzymes do work and others don´t as always

> in this kind of sales war.

>

> The lady was asking about why she could not digest Potato while taking a

> protease ( in that case Papain) . There is no pH in the world that will make

> a protease digest an starch. To digest an starch you will need an amylase to

> start with regardless the pH.

>

> This story of only enzymes made out of Aspergillus or any other organism

> being ideal for human beings is just another sales story.

>

> By the way this Pharmaceutical German company I have just given you the web

> site is supposed to be one of the best in the world if not the best and they

> use bromelain, papain, etc... but their tablets are enteric coated in order

> to be delivered and absorbed were it is suppose to be.

>

> Take a Good Luck at that site if you want to learn a little bit more about

> enzymes

>

> Luiz

>

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Hi ,

How does one know that they don't digest potatoes? J.

[Guest guest]

,

okay, well, you asked. I am on a simple diet of chicken, baked potato,

veggies and a few other things. I am working with a nutritionist doing

parasite cleanse, she wants me to go through my bowel movements with a

stick. Sure enough there have ben chunks of potato, I couldn't be

sure it was potato, but then I found a big chunk with the skin still

attached! There could be no mistaking it.

:-)

[Guest guest]

> From: Jules <jules@...>

>

> Just to clarify, I do take papaya enzymes, I take them as part of my parasite

cleansing. During this process I have noted that I do not digest potato. I do

not take the papaya to digest starches. But I was wondering if there is a

certain deficiency or condition that might cause the potatoes to not be digested

- I do digest rice.

,

An underactive thyroid causes an underactive pancreas, and since the pancreas

does the work of converting, manufacturing & secreting digestive enzymes (other

than salivary amylase) into the small intestines. People with a severly affected

pacreas usually have a tension or pain after eating in the following location:

Put your finger in the inverted " V " of soft tissue just below the center of the

breastbone. This should be a few inches above your navel. Then move your finger

to the left about 1 inch, on the edge of the ribcage. Then try to push

the finger around-under the ribcage. If there is any sensitivity here you

definitely have a sluggish pancreas. BTW, rice is much easier to digest. I have

no trouble with it either.

So you know where I am coming from, I have had digestion & assimilation problems

for 50 years. I am 6 feet tall and a few times I went down to 112-114 lbs. So my

interest in enzymes and my attitudes and beliefs are not merely theoretical. (I

can feel the difference in a good enzyme.) I have been in a serious assimilation

crisis for about a year. The last few months the worst. In the past few weeks I

have eaten single foods, taken the finest enzymes in large doses and still not

digested or assimilated much from it. So, I know what you're living

with.

I started alergy injections on Tuesday because allergies throw the stomach

meridian out on both sides, which in itself can interrupt digestion. But, as it

happens, on Tuesday I also received my first shipment of HGH secretagogues. I

found a new sublingual one that is reasonably priced. Less than 1/10 of a

substance is usually assimilated when taken orally, so maybe just being able to

use smaller doses than the oral types makes it cheaper.

Anyway, I took two of the three daily doses the first day, and the next morning

I woke up feeling GREAT for the first time in months. Then, I got high from

breakfast because I assimilated so much from it. I did well with my later meals

also. Today is the following day and I assimilated breakfast again today. My

girlfriend took two doses yesterday and woke up feeling great today also, which

isn't usual for her either since she has allergies so bad she has asthma.

Normally, she can't stand the idea of eating in the morning, but this morning we

both had an appetite and she enjoyed a normal breakfast too.

My biggest problem lately has been a terrible dehydration. I'm drinking at least

3 liters of distilled water a day with Flanagan Microclusters. My weight has

been hovering about 124-125 pounds, well below my normal. My lips drying out is

the first sign I get of something dehydrating me, so I have a very finely tuned

and sensitive sensing mechanism in re digestion & dehydration. I can drink raw

organic vegetable & fruit juices with additional enzymes and not need water. But

if I eat anything cooked I need to take enzymes & drink at least a pint

of water. I have had less trouble with this for the last two days also.

Since it is only two days, I have no idea if this effect will last and continue

improving my situation. But, so far I have high hopes for this HGH secretagogue,

since direct side effects of increased HGH are an increased thyroid, and

therefore, increased pancreatic activity AND re-hydration. As I said, one of the

upstream causes of poor digestion and malassimilation is a sluggish thyroid. And

an upstream cause of a sluggish thyroid is diminished HGH. That is why I was

interested in trying the secretagogue. If you are having trouble digesting

food I suggest you try some to see what it does for you -- IF it continues

helping me this way. I will make a post again in a few days if I continue

getting this benefit from the secretagogue. (Boy do I wish I could afford the

injections!) Then, there are also all of the other benefits of more HGH in your

body.

Most oral secretagogues I have seen cost about $90 a month. But then I found the

one I bought for about $29 delivered by buying three a month. (buy 2 get 1 free)

Singly they are $39 + $5 shipping. Here is the URL I found for them:

http://www.emptechno.com/secrt3x3.htm I try to avoid selling things, but I'll

sell singles, when I have extras, for $37 w/shipping included to anyone

interested.

jim

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[Guest guest]

Jim,

thanks so much for all this info. I have had thyroid tests that all

tell to be in the normal range, but I do get very cold frequently. Yes

I do have tenderness where you mention. 50 years is a long time! I am

only 31 now. Is there no cure for this condition? What about Thyroid

supplements? my weight goes up & down all the time, sometimes way

down. I am not sure what you mean by 'assimilation', how does that

differ from digestion? I too have severe allergies and sometimes get

asthma from them. I also get very dehydrated, my lips dry out all

the time, I have to carry lip balm with me at all times. Sometimes in

the morning my upper lip is cracked at the center. These symptoms

have been very mysterious to me. I would be interested in any good

information sources you could recommend, also in buying a single

bottle of secretagogue if you have one around.

Thanks,

:-)

Jim Lambert wrote:

> From: Jim Lambert <jlambert@...>

>

> > From: Jules <jules@...>

> >

> > Just to clarify, I do take papaya enzymes, I take them as part of my

parasite cleansing. During this process I have noted that I do not digest

potato. I do not take the papaya to digest starches. But I was wondering if

there is a certain deficiency or condition that might cause the potatoes to not

be digested - I do digest rice.

>

> ,

>

> An underactive thyroid causes an underactive pancreas, and since the pancreas

does the work of converting, manufacturing & secreting digestive enzymes (other

than salivary amylase) into the small intestines. People with a severly affected

pacreas usually have a tension or pain after eating in the following location:

Put your finger in the inverted " V " of soft tissue just below the center of the

breastbone. This should be a few inches above your navel. Then move your finger

to the left about 1 inch, on the edge of the ribcage. Then try to push

> the finger around-under the ribcage. If there is any sensitivity here you

definitely have a sluggish pancreas. BTW, rice is much easier to digest. I have

no trouble with it either.

>

> So you know where I am coming from, I have had digestion & assimilation

problems for 50 years. I am 6 feet tall and a few times I went down to 112-114

lbs. So my interest in enzymes and my attitudes and beliefs are not merely

theoretical. (I can feel the difference in a good enzyme.) I have been in a

serious assimilation crisis for about a year. The last few months the worst. In

the past few weeks I have eaten single foods, taken the finest enzymes in large

doses and still not digested or assimilated much from it. So, I know what you're

living

> with.

>

> I started alergy injections on Tuesday because allergies throw the stomach

meridian out on both sides, which in itself can interrupt digestion. But, as it

happens, on Tuesday I also received my first shipment of HGH secretagogues. I

found a new sublingual one that is reasonably priced. Less than 1/10 of a

substance is usually assimilated when taken orally, so maybe just being able to

use smaller doses than the oral types makes it cheaper.

>

> Anyway, I took two of the three daily doses the first day, and the next

morning I woke up feeling GREAT for the first time in months. Then, I got high

from breakfast because I assimilated so much from it. I did well with my later

meals also. Today is the following day and I assimilated breakfast again today.

My girlfriend took two doses yesterday and woke up feeling great today also,

which isn't usual for her either since she has allergies so bad she has asthma.

Normally, she can't stand the idea of eating in the morning, but this morning we

> both had an appetite and she enjoyed a normal breakfast too.

>

> My biggest problem lately has been a terrible dehydration. I'm drinking at

least 3 liters of distilled water a day with Flanagan Microclusters. My weight

has been hovering about 124-125 pounds, well below my normal. My lips drying out

is the first sign I get of something dehydrating me, so I have a very finely

tuned and sensitive sensing mechanism in re digestion & dehydration. I can drink

raw organic vegetable & fruit juices with additional enzymes and not need water.

But if I eat anything cooked I need to take enzymes & drink at least a pint

> of water. I have had less trouble with this for the last two days also.

>

> Since it is only two days, I have no idea if this effect will last and

continue improving my situation. But, so far I have high hopes for this HGH

secretagogue, since direct side effects of increased HGH are an increased

thyroid, and therefore, increased pancreatic activity AND re-hydration. As I

said, one of the upstream causes of poor digestion and malassimilation is a

sluggish thyroid. And an upstream cause of a sluggish thyroid is diminished HGH.

That is why I was interested in trying the secretagogue. If you are having

trouble digesting

> food I suggest you try some to see what it does for you -- IF it continues

helping me this way. I will make a post again in a few days if I continue

getting this benefit from the secretagogue. (Boy do I wish I could afford the

injections!) Then, there are also all of the other benefits of more HGH in your

body.

>

> Most oral secretagogues I have seen cost about $90 a month. But then I found

the one I bought for about $29 delivered by buying three a month. (buy 2 get 1

free) Singly they are $39 + $5 shipping. Here is the URL I found for them:

http://www.emptechno.com/secrt3x3.htm I try to avoid selling things, but I'll

sell singles, when I have extras, for $37 w/shipping included to anyone

interested.

>

> jim

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>

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I think www.worldwithoutcancer.com might be able to answer your questions.

Melinda

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enzymes

>I am trying to understand the relationship of trypsin and chymotrypsin with

>amylase, lipase and protease and how they fit into a cancer therapy.

>Is there any readings that might help me in this direction?

>

>Thanks

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the enzymes also digest the food you eat so it can be eliminated quickly .

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sounds like Wobenzyn N -- high potency enzymes from Germany. It is

supposed to break down protein covering of cancer cells so immune stystem

and other stuff like laetril (sp?) can attack it.

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I am trying to understand the relationship of trypsin

and chymotrypsin with

amylase, lipase and protease and how they fit into a cancer therapy.

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the4cs@... writes:

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No direct experience yet execpt for digestive enzymes taken at meals, but my

doctor works with the ideas of Nickolas , MD and I want him to look

into how they could work in CFS.

>

> Have any of you had experience with enzyme therapy?

>

> H.

[Guest guest]

I've been reading about enzymes and enzyme activation lately

(magnesium's main role is as an enzyme activator). Enzymes are protein

or RNA. Does that mean a high purine diet or supplemental RNA would

increase enzymes? J.

[Guest guest]

Hi , I just wanted to say that since I have been taking homozon I have

noticed that I need far less supplemental digestive enzymes. I have no idea

what that connection is.

Donna

________________________________________________

I've been reading about enzymes and enzyme activation lately

(magnesium's main role is as an enzyme activator). Enzymes are protein

or RNA. Does that mean a high purine diet or supplemental RNA would

increase enzymes? J.

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Donna, maybe it is the magnesium in Homozone enhancing the enzyme balance?

What a great double edged sword.

Re: Enzymes

>

> Hi , I just wanted to say that since I have been taking homozon I

have noticed that I need far less supplemental digestive enzymes. I have no

idea what that connection is.

>

> Donna

> ________________________________________________

>

>

> I've been reading about enzymes and enzyme activation lately

> (magnesium's main role is as an enzyme activator). Enzymes are

protein

> or RNA. Does that mean a high purine diet or supplemental RNA would

> increase enzymes? J.

>

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Just wanted to post something positive and possible.

Re: Enzymes

>

>

> >

> > Hi , I just wanted to say that since I have been taking

homozon I

> have noticed that I need far less supplemental digestive enzymes. I

have no

> idea what that connection is.

> >

> > Donna

> > ________________________________________________

> >

> >

> > I've been reading about enzymes and enzyme activation lately

> > (magnesium's main role is as an enzyme activator). Enzymes are

> protein

> > or RNA. Does that mean a high purine diet or supplemental RNA

would

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> >

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Donna, maybe it is the magnesium in Homozone enhancing the enzyme balance?

What a great double edged sword.

Subject: Re: Enzymes

>

> Hi , I just wanted to say that since I have been taking homozon I

have noticed that I need far less supplemental digestive enzymes. I have no

idea what that connection is.

>

> Donna

> ________________________________________________

>

>

> I've been reading about enzymes and enzyme activation lately

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>

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What is amylase? How much do you take? Where do you get it? How much did you

take and how soon did the allergies go away?

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Hi Donna, Thanks for the info. I'm taking enzymes for my

indigestion, nice to know they might help my hayfever too

Laurie

Donna wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> Just wanted to share my recent allergy experience. The

> last few weeks I have been having major hayfever/allergy

> things going on. Sneezing like crazy, totally blocked

> sinus', itchy eyes and it has been frustrating.

>

> To make a long story short, enzymes were recommended and I

> took about 30 yesterday and a few more this morning and I

> went from totally miserable to totally sumptom free.

> And I am very happy, happy, happy. I have ordered amylase

> as a single enzyme as I understand it is the main one that

> works. But the ones I have been taking are gamma zyme and

> quadra zyme by R Garden. You can read the ingredients at

> www.rgarden.com

>

> I am hoping when I have the amylase I can take less and

> get the same results. I will keep you posted.

>

> I tried quercetin and some other things that were supposed

> to work and none of them did. Today is beautifully sunny

> and warm and so I know the pollen is out there and I am

> having no response. I am so happy.

>

> I heard a story about a woman who was applying for a job

> with a Doctor who specialized in enzymes and she was

> having allergy symptoms related to her cat and the doctor

> handed her a bottle of amylase and told her to take the

> whole bottle right then and she did and the symtoms went

> away and stayed away for over a year and a half.

>

> Just thought I'd pass that on, in case anyone is prone to

> similar problems.

>

> Breathing easy,

> Donna

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Laurie, If the enzymes you are taking have protease in them you might not

want to do them in high doses as protease digests protein and can be irritating

to the stomach. Short term as a experiment, it might be okay but I wouldn't do

it long term. That is why I ordered the amylase. It digests carbs and so it

isn't irritating to flesh.

Let us know if it works for you.

Donna

Re: Enzymes

Hi Donna, Thanks for the info. I'm taking enzymes for my

indigestion, nice to know they might help my hayfever too

Laurie

Donna wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> Just wanted to share my recent allergy experience. The

> last few weeks I have been having major hayfever/allergy

> things going on. Sneezing like crazy, totally blocked

> sinus', itchy eyes and it has been frustrating.

>

> To make a long story short, enzymes were recommended and I

> took about 30 yesterday and a few more this morning and I

> went from totally miserable to totally sumptom free.

> And I am very happy, happy, happy. I have ordered amylase

> as a single enzyme as I understand it is the main one that

> works. But the ones I have been taking are gamma zyme and

> quadra zyme by R Garden. You can read the ingredients at

> www.rgarden.com

>

> I am hoping when I have the amylase I can take less and

> get the same results. I will keep you posted.

>

> I tried quercetin and some other things that were supposed

> to work and none of them did. Today is beautifully sunny

> and warm and so I know the pollen is out there and I am

> having no response. I am so happy.

>

> I heard a story about a woman who was applying for a job

> with a Doctor who specialized in enzymes and she was

> having allergy symptoms related to her cat and the doctor

> handed her a bottle of amylase and told her to take the

> whole bottle right then and she did and the symtoms went

> away and stayed away for over a year and a half.

>

> Just thought I'd pass that on, in case anyone is prone to

> similar problems.

>

> Breathing easy,

> Donna

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Donna, you are amazing. Now I need an education on enzymes and what they

do. Does this ever end?

I always thought digestive enzymes are just for that. Digestion.

Need your help on that one if you are not tired of my questions already.

Love and Light

Christel

[Guest guest]

Hi Elsol, Amylase is a digestive enzyme that digest carbohydrates. I do not

know why it also works for airborne allergens. I have not taken it yet. I just

ordered it today. What I took was a general digestive enzyme with amylase and

other enzymes in it also. But it worked. I just thought it would be good to

take just plain amylase as the other enzymes I have, have protease in them and

if you take too much it can irritate the tissues of the stomach. And so if I

want to take high doses, I might have a problem in time, so I ordered the

amylase so I can take the dose I need to keep the allergies at bay and not

irritate my stomach.

I ordered it from R garden. I don't know if anyone else has amylase alone.

Someone else said they looked on the net and didn't see any. I called the local

health shop today and they didn't have any and hadn't heard of any. So I called

R garden and ordered it.

Usually I order their stuff in large quantitiy and get 40% discount. But since

I have not actually used the amylase yet I just ordered one. It cost $20 plus I

think $4 for postage. If it works as well as the quadra zyme, then I will order

12 and can then offer it to people for $16.

Or people can sign up with them for $5 and buy in quantitiy themselves, for them

and their family and friends.

But, a general enzyme product from your local health food store might work too,

I am just being cautious because I have had stomach pain before when doing too

much protease and so I am going to try the amylase. That is why they bottle it

seperately. And I am assuming it will be more cost effective because I should

be able to take less and get better results since it is pure amylase and not

diluted with other enzymes like lipase, cellulase, etc.

Hope that is more clear.

Also, you asked me privately about coral calcium and I have tried to respond to

you privately several times and it always comes back undeliverable. Can you e

mail me privately again and I will try again.

Thanks,

Donna

Re: Enzymes

What is amylase? How much do you take? Where do you get it? How much did

you

take and how soon did the allergies go away?

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna, Where are you ordering your Amylase from? and yes

mine do contain protease, and I don't eat much animal

protein, lots of plant protein.

Laurie

Donna wrote:

> Hi Laurie, If the enzymes you are taking have protease in

> them you might not want to do them in high doses as

> protease digests protein and can be irritating to the

> stomach. Short term as a experiment, it might be okay but

> I wouldn't do it long term. That is why I ordered the

> amylase. It digests carbs and so it isn't irritating to

> flesh.

>

> Let us know if it works for you.

> Donna

>

>

> Re: Enzymes

>

>

> Hi Donna, Thanks for the info. I'm taking enzymes for

> my

> indigestion, nice to know they might help my hayfever

> too

> Laurie

>

> Donna wrote:

>

> > Hi all,

> >

> > Just wanted to share my recent allergy experience.

> The

> > last few weeks I have been having major

> hayfever/allergy

> > things going on. Sneezing like crazy, totally

> blocked

> > sinus', itchy eyes and it has been frustrating.

> >

> > To make a long story short, enzymes were recommended

> and I

> > took about 30 yesterday and a few more this morning

> and I

> > went from totally miserable to totally sumptom free.

>

> > And I am very happy, happy, happy. I have ordered

> amylase

> > as a single enzyme as I understand it is the main

> one that

> > works. But the ones I have been taking are gamma

> zyme and

> > quadra zyme by R Garden. You can read the

> ingredients at

> > www.rgarden.com

> >

> > I am hoping when I have the amylase I can take less

> and

> > get the same results. I will keep you posted.

> >

> > I tried quercetin and some other things that were

> supposed

> > to work and none of them did. Today is beautifully

> sunny

> > and warm and so I know the pollen is out there and I

> am

> > having no response. I am so happy.

> >

> > I heard a story about a woman who was applying for a

> job

> > with a Doctor who specialized in enzymes and she was

>

> > having allergy symptoms related to her cat and the

> doctor

> > handed her a bottle of amylase and told her to take

> the

> > whole bottle right then and she did and the symtoms

> went

> > away and stayed away for over a year and a half.

> >

> > Just thought I'd pass that on, in case anyone is

> prone to

> > similar problems.

> >

> > Breathing easy,

> > Donna

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >