Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Hi everyone I just wanted to thank everyone (especially Minna) for all the info they provided on enzymes. I have ordered and received the enzymes, and have started my daughter out on them. I will keep everyone posted as to her progress. Have a great one! AmyGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 > The enzymes start to die within 15 minutes of preparing juice and are usually all expired after about 3 hours. Some, however will survive the freezing process and at least the chlorophyll won't go to waste, along with the less volatile vitamins, minerals, and amino acids. > > Freezing is probably helping preserve some enzymes. The algae I eat is preserved by a process called sublimation which freezes first, then drys at low temperatures to preserve the enzymes. I also supplement my diet with plant based enzymes and co-enzyme Q10 and occasional probiotics (like acidopholus and bifidus). Here's an interesting article I just read by one of the fathers of the sprouting movement, Viktoras Kulvinskas. http://www.heartlandwellness.com/_text/enzymes.htm Enjoy, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 > The enzymes start to die within 15 minutes of preparing juice and are usually all expired after about 3 hours. Some, however will survive the freezing process and at least the chlorophyll won't go to waste, along with the less volatile vitamins, minerals, and amino acids. > > Freezing is probably helping preserve some enzymes. The algae I eat is preserved by a process called sublimation which freezes first, then drys at low temperatures to preserve the enzymes. I also supplement my diet with plant based enzymes and co-enzyme Q10 and occasional probiotics (like acidopholus and bifidus). Here's an interesting article I just read by one of the fathers of the sprouting movement, Viktoras Kulvinskas. http://www.heartlandwellness.com/_text/enzymes.htm Enjoy, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2002 Report Share Posted August 17, 2002 I take the houstonni enzymes for myself. i saw no benefits at all without going completely gf/cf free. then the benefits were minor eg more clearly able to identify hunger and not needing to eat constantly. about 6 weeks ago i started using no-fenol as well as zyme prime and peptizyde. that has made a huge difference although i still cannot have gluten and casein. i no longer have constant depression and anxiety and i think ongoing yeast issues are being addressed. maybe in a few months i can start adding things back into my diet. there is a period when i felt a lot worse, probably associated with yeast die off. but now i would be worried about not having the enzymes. Autism_in_Girls wrote: > >There are 10 messages in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > > Â Â Â 1. (unknown) > Â Â Â Â Â From: rhonda m pineau <scottron2@...> > Â Â Â 2. Re: (unknown) > Â Â Â Â Â From: HMMS571209@... > Â Â Â 3. Re: (unknown) > Â Â Â Â Â From: " cheezer " <cheezer@...> > Â Â Â 4. Re: (unknown) > Â Â Â Â Â From: " joan migton " <jandjmig@...> > Â Â Â 5. re: > Â Â Â Â Â From: " rydernina " <rydernina@...> > Â Â Â 6. Re: (unknown) > Â Â Â Â Â From: rhonda m pineau <scottron2@...> > Â Â Â 7. Re: (unknown) > Â Â Â Â Â From: rhonda m pineau <scottron2@...> > Â Â Â 8. Re: (unknown) > Â Â Â Â Â From: HMMS571209@... > Â Â Â 9. Re: (unknown) > Â Â Â Â Â From: " cheezer " <cheezer@...> > Â Â 10. Re: (unknown) > Â Â Â Â Â From: Barbara Harvell <barb_harv@...> > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 1 > Â Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 18:40:31 -0400 > Â From: rhonda m pineau <scottron2@...> >Subject: (unknown) > >I'm wondering how many parents of girls with autism are trying the >enzymes? Â I've joined the enzyme group on and hear quite a bit of >good stuff regarding boys and enzymes, are girls showing the same signs >of success? Â I'd like to start Olivia on them but want to hear from other >parents first. Â Thanks, Â Rhonda > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 2 > Â Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 18:43:22 EDT > Â From: HMMS571209@... >Subject: Re: (unknown) > >I have started them, and thought they were doing good things, but my daughter >was also on meds which were a nightmare. So I stopped everything until I >could figure out what was what. I have just started her back on them and it >seems to be helping. Her coloring is better and she seems to be slowing down >on the overeating. > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 3 > Â Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 17:39:04 -0600 (Mountain Daylight Time) > Â From: " cheezer " <cheezer@...> >Subject: Re: (unknown) > > Â Â Niave question but what are enzymes? Â I mean do you give it to the >child in herbs or something? Â I hope Idontsound too niave LOL Â Â Â Â >Charlene > >-- (unknown) > >I'm wondering how many parents of girls with autism are trying the >enzymes? I've joined the enzyme group on and hear quite a bit of >good stuff regarding boys and enzymes, are girls showing the same signs >of success? I'd like to start Olivia on them but want to hear from other >parents first. Thanks, Rhonda > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 >Finally, how do I know if my boys would benefit from taking enzymes to help with digestive issues? What enzymes have people have success with? Where are they available?< First of all you should join the autism treatment list. () There are many archives to explain enzymes. I recommend the Houston Neutraceutical brand. You can go to the website www.houstonni.com. not sure if I spelled it right. There may be only one n. The enzymes group is great for any questions we have before starting and also during. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 >Finally, how do I know if my boys would benefit from taking enzymes to help with digestive issues? What enzymes have people have success with? Where are they available?< First of all you should join the autism treatment list. () There are many archives to explain enzymes. I recommend the Houston Neutraceutical brand. You can go to the website www.houstonni.com. not sure if I spelled it right. There may be only one n. The enzymes group is great for any questions we have before starting and also during. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 Dear , Wobenzyme is excellent and have a good reputation. Standard Process was very good for many years, although some peole say they have slipped. There is a spin off company (forgot the name) from SP who is supposedly very good. We have been getting protease from an Oregon company and it is super. They are Enzyme Research in Lake Oswego, OR 97034 Tel: 1-888-635-4413. Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ -------- ----Original Message Follows---- From: TheSkyKing@... Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Enzymes Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:54:55 EDT Saul, As far as a systemic enzyme formula for overall health, what do you think of Wobenzym? Do you recommend this, or another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 hi, since wobenzym is a german product....i have studied it a little more... what i don´t like about it, is the colouring, the sugar coating. it is possible to create your own wob enzyme with three different products. i know them from KAL. 1. bromelaine 2. pancreatin (containing protease, lipase and amylase) 3. papaya zyme (papaine) when combining these three enzyme products, you have exactly what is in wobenzym, but need to take less tablets and therefore do not get the colouring and the sugar coating. as an alternative... marlene Enzymes > Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:54:55 EDT > > Saul, > > As far as a systemic enzyme formula for overall health, what do you think of > Wobenzym? Do you recommend this, or another? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 Re: Enzymes > hi, > since wobenzym is a german product....i have studied it a little more... > what i don´t like about it, is the colouring, the sugar coating. > it is possible to create your own wob enzyme with three different products. > i know them from KAL. > 1. bromelaine > 2. pancreatin (containing protease, lipase and amylase) > 3. papaya zyme (papaine) > when combining these three enzyme products, you have exactly what is in > wobenzym, but need to take less tablets and therefore do not get the > colouring and the sugar coating. > as an alternative... > marlene , Wobenzyme has two different multi-enzyme products that contain exactly the same enzymes -- except one is red and sugar coated, and the other is white and free from sugar and dyes. I use the one that does not contain sugar or dyes for myself and also for my dogs, and we do fine on it. The Wobenzyme " plain " is quite palatable, and the dogs readily chew and swallow it. Nenah Nenah Sylver, Ph.D. Products, services, and information about health Author (under the name " Nina Silver " ) of *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* Order the book and read excerpts at http://www.nenahsylver.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 hi nenah, hey, i didn´t know. i don´t think, i´t can be bought like this here.... good idea anyways. marlene Re: Enzymes > > > > hi, > > since wobenzym is a german product....i have studied it a little more... > > what i don´t like about it, is the colouring, the sugar coating. > > it is possible to create your own wob enzyme with three different products. > > i know them from KAL. > > 1. bromelaine > > 2. pancreatin (containing protease, lipase and amylase) > > 3. papaya zyme (papaine) > > when combining these three enzyme products, you have exactly what is in > > wobenzym, but need to take less tablets and therefore do not get the > > colouring and the sugar coating. > > as an alternative... > > marlene > > , > Wobenzyme has two different multi-enzyme products that contain exactly the same > enzymes -- except one is red and sugar coated, and the other is white and free > from sugar and dyes. I use the one that does not contain sugar or dyes for > myself and also for my dogs, and we do fine on it. The Wobenzyme " plain " is > quite palatable, and the dogs readily chew and swallow it. > > Nenah > > Nenah Sylver, Ph.D. > Products, services, and information about health > Author (under the name " Nina Silver " ) of > *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* > Order the book and read excerpts at > http://www.nenahsylver.com/ > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires int > elligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you a > re a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 Actually, You can order Wobenzym without the red colored sugar coating. After I received my first bottle of 900 tablets (expensive), I called the company (I purchased this particular product from lef.org), and I told them I wanted a refund, when they, to my surprise, told me they would gladly exchange it for " Wobenzym N " which has no sugar coating. The product I have not is the same exact thing but the eneric coating is clear and there is no sugar. > That's a good idea. I don't like the coating and sugar of wobenzyme > either, and never tried it for that reason. You have thought of > smoething clever! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 That's a good idea. I don't like the coating and sugar of wobenzyme either, and never tried it for that reason. You have thought of smoething clever! > hi, > since wobenzym is a german product....i have studied it a little more... > what i don´t like about it, is the colouring, the sugar coating. > it is possible to create your own wob enzyme with three different products. > i know them from KAL. > 1. bromelaine > 2. pancreatin (containing protease, lipase and amylase) > 3. papaya zyme (papaine) > when combining these three enzyme products, you have exactly what is in > wobenzym, but need to take less tablets and therefore do not get the > colouring and the sugar coating. > as an alternative... > marlene > Enzymes > > Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:54:55 EDT > > > > Saul, > > > > As far as a systemic enzyme formula for overall health, what do you think > of > > Wobenzym? Do you recommend this, or another? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Message: 12 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:07:42 -0600 From: " , M " <pwatson@...> Subject: FW: My Daughter is having remarkable results with Houston Enzymes http://216.114.78.114/webcenter/sites/HNI/ Well, after giving up on the other cheaper cost enzymes and my daughters building emotions and problems at school and home and the good advice of another Parent we purchased all 3 Houston Enzymes and used them over the 3 week Holiday break. Ok some want to know what the other brands were, we tried Kirkmans http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/ and generic ones from Puritans Pride http://www.puritanspride.com . We had no effect with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Message: 12 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:07:42 -0600 From: " , M " <pwatson@...> Subject: FW: My Daughter is having remarkable results with Houston Enzymes http://216.114.78.114/webcenter/sites/HNI/ Well, after giving up on the other cheaper cost enzymes and my daughters building emotions and problems at school and home and the good advice of another Parent we purchased all 3 Houston Enzymes and used them over the 3 week Holiday break. Ok some want to know what the other brands were, we tried Kirkmans http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/ and generic ones from Puritans Pride http://www.puritanspride.com . We had no effect with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Hi , I noticed no one had answered your response, so I thought I should give you a heads up that I have heard some kids are bit more constipated but I mostly have heard good things about bms. We have been on Houston enzymes for so long it is hard to think back to pre- enzymes---we started Houston enzymes Dec. 2001. My son has some constipation issues that impact his behavior and performance but I am not sure if it is from the enzyme use. This is something I would closely monitor if you start any new vitamin or enzyme treatment--you are such a smart cookie to be concerned with this. I hope you notice something good. We started slow with just the Zyme and then added the Pep 1/4 of a capsule at a time. We are still on a special diet so we do not use the enzymes in place of diet restrictions. We have had occasional infractions with enzymes with no negative response but it is not something I would dive into regulary. I do want to remind anyone that is thinking about starting enzymes that there are parents out there that have said enzymes have not helped their kids. Some parents have said that Kirkmans worked better than Houstons so it is also trial and error. I also feel that my son is very dependent on the enzymes and I don't view this as an ideal situation. After seeing Dr. Jaqueline McCandless, a food sensitivity test showed him reactive to aspergillus which can be related back to the enzymes--they are derived from this. On her advice we stopped the enzymes but stayed GFCF soy, beef, yeast, sugar free. Within 2 weeks he stopped talking completely. I called Devin and he said he didn't feel that the enzymes caused the aspergillus positive reaction. Dr. McCandless said to go back on the enzymes and see what happens and within a few days he was talking again. When we started the enzymes over 2 years ago, he was talking with over 100 words so I am not sure what to conclude here. Overall he is doing very well right now and I know enzymes are a part of the success but for my son, but it did not heal his gut or he would not regress so dramatically when off of them (he is a MMR child with high levels of measles and rubella). It is also not the only reason why he is doing as well as he is. We anticipate staying on the enzymes forever. I highly recommend reading the FILES from the / list. Good luck, Theresa, SA > Have you experienced constipation while using the enzymes? > > > FW: My Daughter is having remarkable results with Houston > > Enzymes http://216.114.78.114/webcenter/sites/HNI/ > > > > Well, after giving up on the other cheaper cost enzymes and my daughters > > building emotions and problems at school and home and the good advice of > > another Parent we purchased all 3 Houston Enzymes and used them over the > > 3 week Holiday break. > > > > Ok some want to know what the other brands were, we tried Kirkmans > > http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/ and generic ones from Puritans Pride > > http://www.puritanspride.com . We had no effect with them. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Hi , I noticed no one had answered your response, so I thought I should give you a heads up that I have heard some kids are bit more constipated but I mostly have heard good things about bms. We have been on Houston enzymes for so long it is hard to think back to pre- enzymes---we started Houston enzymes Dec. 2001. My son has some constipation issues that impact his behavior and performance but I am not sure if it is from the enzyme use. This is something I would closely monitor if you start any new vitamin or enzyme treatment--you are such a smart cookie to be concerned with this. I hope you notice something good. We started slow with just the Zyme and then added the Pep 1/4 of a capsule at a time. We are still on a special diet so we do not use the enzymes in place of diet restrictions. We have had occasional infractions with enzymes with no negative response but it is not something I would dive into regulary. I do want to remind anyone that is thinking about starting enzymes that there are parents out there that have said enzymes have not helped their kids. Some parents have said that Kirkmans worked better than Houstons so it is also trial and error. I also feel that my son is very dependent on the enzymes and I don't view this as an ideal situation. After seeing Dr. Jaqueline McCandless, a food sensitivity test showed him reactive to aspergillus which can be related back to the enzymes--they are derived from this. On her advice we stopped the enzymes but stayed GFCF soy, beef, yeast, sugar free. Within 2 weeks he stopped talking completely. I called Devin and he said he didn't feel that the enzymes caused the aspergillus positive reaction. Dr. McCandless said to go back on the enzymes and see what happens and within a few days he was talking again. When we started the enzymes over 2 years ago, he was talking with over 100 words so I am not sure what to conclude here. Overall he is doing very well right now and I know enzymes are a part of the success but for my son, but it did not heal his gut or he would not regress so dramatically when off of them (he is a MMR child with high levels of measles and rubella). It is also not the only reason why he is doing as well as he is. We anticipate staying on the enzymes forever. I highly recommend reading the FILES from the / list. Good luck, Theresa, SA > Have you experienced constipation while using the enzymes? > > > FW: My Daughter is having remarkable results with Houston > > Enzymes http://216.114.78.114/webcenter/sites/HNI/ > > > > Well, after giving up on the other cheaper cost enzymes and my daughters > > building emotions and problems at school and home and the good advice of > > another Parent we purchased all 3 Houston Enzymes and used them over the > > 3 week Holiday break. > > > > Ok some want to know what the other brands were, we tried Kirkmans > > http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/ and generic ones from Puritans Pride > > http://www.puritanspride.com . We had no effect with them. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 No we have not had any change such as constipation with the enzymes. , C.P.M. pwatson@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 I have a new question about enzymes. Did anyone find that although their lil one was communicating more, they were also stimming more when they started enzymes? Is that related? Does it die off? Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 I have a new question about enzymes. Did anyone find that although their lil one was communicating more, they were also stimming more when they started enzymes? Is that related? Does it die off? Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 From: <szukidavis@...> > Can you tell me about the enzymes please? enzymes-- important for detoxification Pancreatin/pancreatic enzymes-- reportedly " rated " as the best single supplement for healing cancer by naturopathic physicians (also by Brodie, M.D. [1997] and many others); its most important component is chymotrypsin, which is apparently unavailable in sufficient quantity in supplements sold in health food stores; trypsin and all the other types of digestive enzymes are also important. It's essential to use a top quality brand. I think the best commercially available enzymes are Kelley's and Allergy Research Group's Pork Pancreas (877-259-3393/800-545-9960/210-658-5562/bevweavtx@...; from New Zealand; economical; most similar to the enzymes uses; some practitioners have reportedly used up to 60 pills/day, but this requires medical supervision). It's essential to use large amounts (under medical supervision). " Leukemia is the easiest to treat. Brain and bone cancer are slower. The difficulty is not any greater. It just takes longer. Recovery time is quicker when the cancer is in the soft tissue [(e.g., leukemia, lymphoma [including Hodgkins], myeloma, & melanoma; substantially effective in soft-tissue sarcoma)] and other cancers for which circulation is good. Where the circulation is less...brain, bone and skin--recovery is slower " (*Kelley, [1973]. Dr. Kelley's Three Interviews. Cancer Control Journal, 1(2), 1-20; p. 4). Bladder cancer's rather slow to respond. Kelley healed a case of AML leukemia. Extremely effective w/pancreatic cancer.; effective in treating ascites but ineffective w/benign tumors (including benign brain tumors). Reportedly effective w/all cancers (including breast, colon, cervical, lung, prostate, uterine, skin, and other cancers). Pancreatic enzymes are particularly important for persons w/heavy tumor loads. For solid-tumor patients, I believe has prescribed them EVERY 4 hrs (throughout the day & night, and particularly at 3am and 7am) on empty stomach (can also take a few w/meals), totalling 35-40g/day (w/medical supervision); the more protein you eat, the more proteolytic enzymes are needed; 's patients take them for 15 days, then stop for 5 days, etc. Kelley prescribes 12 formula Ca+ 6 times/day for 15 days, then stop for 5 days. Then take 9 tablets 6 times/day for up to 25 days, then stop for 5 days. Check w/practitioner before taking large amounts of pancreatic enzymes, and be sure to do simultaneous liver detox (ideally coffee enemas). Protease inhibitors (particularly nonfermented, nonsprouted soy) greatly inhibit proteolytic enzymes and thus should be STRICTLY avoided if you're taking enzymes. Take extra minerals if you're doing enzyme therapy. bromelain (in enzyme supplements, pineapple)-- extremely effective w/breast, ovarian, lung, & metastasized cancer; induces differentiation in leukemia; 1g 3-4x/day on empty stomach; synergistic w/Laetrile/amygdalin, curcumin & green tea; get a brand that's rated at least 2000 GDU amylase-- contained in most multi-enzyme products; for more info, www.navi.net/~rsc/sialo.htm For more info on enzyme therapy, www.bluegrass.net/~jclark/enzyme_therapy.htm www.theherbfinder.com/index www.annieappleseedproject.org/repfromalton.html www.annieappleseedproject.org/fdaapuseofen.html /message/5855 (apparently a commercial attempt to promote Megazyme Forte, and it wrongly dismisses Wobe Mugos but contains valuable info on enzyme therapy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 From: <szukidavis@...> > Can you tell me about the enzymes please? enzymes-- important for detoxification Pancreatin/pancreatic enzymes-- reportedly " rated " as the best single supplement for healing cancer by naturopathic physicians (also by Brodie, M.D. [1997] and many others); its most important component is chymotrypsin, which is apparently unavailable in sufficient quantity in supplements sold in health food stores; trypsin and all the other types of digestive enzymes are also important. It's essential to use a top quality brand. I think the best commercially available enzymes are Kelley's and Allergy Research Group's Pork Pancreas (877-259-3393/800-545-9960/210-658-5562/bevweavtx@...; from New Zealand; economical; most similar to the enzymes uses; some practitioners have reportedly used up to 60 pills/day, but this requires medical supervision). It's essential to use large amounts (under medical supervision). " Leukemia is the easiest to treat. Brain and bone cancer are slower. The difficulty is not any greater. It just takes longer. Recovery time is quicker when the cancer is in the soft tissue [(e.g., leukemia, lymphoma [including Hodgkins], myeloma, & melanoma; substantially effective in soft-tissue sarcoma)] and other cancers for which circulation is good. Where the circulation is less...brain, bone and skin--recovery is slower " (*Kelley, [1973]. Dr. Kelley's Three Interviews. Cancer Control Journal, 1(2), 1-20; p. 4). Bladder cancer's rather slow to respond. Kelley healed a case of AML leukemia. Extremely effective w/pancreatic cancer.; effective in treating ascites but ineffective w/benign tumors (including benign brain tumors). Reportedly effective w/all cancers (including breast, colon, cervical, lung, prostate, uterine, skin, and other cancers). Pancreatic enzymes are particularly important for persons w/heavy tumor loads. For solid-tumor patients, I believe has prescribed them EVERY 4 hrs (throughout the day & night, and particularly at 3am and 7am) on empty stomach (can also take a few w/meals), totalling 35-40g/day (w/medical supervision); the more protein you eat, the more proteolytic enzymes are needed; 's patients take them for 15 days, then stop for 5 days, etc. Kelley prescribes 12 formula Ca+ 6 times/day for 15 days, then stop for 5 days. Then take 9 tablets 6 times/day for up to 25 days, then stop for 5 days. Check w/practitioner before taking large amounts of pancreatic enzymes, and be sure to do simultaneous liver detox (ideally coffee enemas). Protease inhibitors (particularly nonfermented, nonsprouted soy) greatly inhibit proteolytic enzymes and thus should be STRICTLY avoided if you're taking enzymes. Take extra minerals if you're doing enzyme therapy. bromelain (in enzyme supplements, pineapple)-- extremely effective w/breast, ovarian, lung, & metastasized cancer; induces differentiation in leukemia; 1g 3-4x/day on empty stomach; synergistic w/Laetrile/amygdalin, curcumin & green tea; get a brand that's rated at least 2000 GDU amylase-- contained in most multi-enzyme products; for more info, www.navi.net/~rsc/sialo.htm For more info on enzyme therapy, www.bluegrass.net/~jclark/enzyme_therapy.htm www.theherbfinder.com/index www.annieappleseedproject.org/repfromalton.html www.annieappleseedproject.org/fdaapuseofen.html /message/5855 (apparently a commercial attempt to promote Megazyme Forte, and it wrongly dismisses Wobe Mugos but contains valuable info on enzyme therapy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 > I have a new question about enzymes. Did anyone find that although their lil > one was communicating more, they were also stimming more when they started > enzymes? Is that related? Does it die off? > > Val Yes. It gave him diahhrea too. I didn't stick with it long enough to see if it would go away. It was early in my son's PDD diagnosis so I didn't know as much as I do now. Turns out he was reacting to the bromelain, which is made from pineapples. He tested moderately intolerant to all citrus fruits on his IgG/IgE Food Panel. I forgot that little fact when I ordered it. FYI I sent an email today to Dr. Houston about this issue. He emailed back saying that they were coming up with a new HP-Zyme Prime formula without papaya (papain) or pineapple (bromelain). Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 > I have a new question about enzymes. Did anyone find that although their lil > one was communicating more, they were also stimming more when they started > enzymes? Is that related? Does it die off? > > Val Yes. It gave him diahhrea too. I didn't stick with it long enough to see if it would go away. It was early in my son's PDD diagnosis so I didn't know as much as I do now. Turns out he was reacting to the bromelain, which is made from pineapples. He tested moderately intolerant to all citrus fruits on his IgG/IgE Food Panel. I forgot that little fact when I ordered it. FYI I sent an email today to Dr. Houston about this issue. He emailed back saying that they were coming up with a new HP-Zyme Prime formula without papaya (papain) or pineapple (bromelain). Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Hi, Enzymes have also been attributed to destroying the outer cell of yeast which can cause stimming and other such things as a " die-off " toxin effect. If your child has had a recent clear urine test then the stimming is probably not related to that. Also, if a child was not purely GFCF before starting the enzymes, there will probably be withdrawals from the lack of peptides, which could have behavior implications. Good luck, Theresa > > I have a new question about enzymes. Did anyone find that > although their lil > > one was communicating more, they were also stimming more when they > started > > enzymes? Is that related? Does it die off? > > > > Val > > Yes. It gave him diahhrea too. I didn't stick with it long enough > to see if it would go away. It was early in my son's PDD diagnosis > so I didn't know as much as I do now. Turns out he was reacting to > the bromelain, which is made from pineapples. He tested moderately > intolerant to all citrus fruits on his IgG/IgE Food Panel. I forgot > that little fact when I ordered it. > > FYI I sent an email today to Dr. Houston about this issue. He > emailed back saying that they were coming up with a new HP-Zyme > Prime formula without papaya (papain) or pineapple (bromelain). > > Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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