Fever

July 5, 1999

I wanna hear, too! My little boy is running a fever of 104.5 and even

ibuprofien is not working! HELP!

Shalia

>From: Dlfnluvr@...

>Reply-Vaccinationsonelist

>vaccinationsonelist

>Subject: fever

>Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:04:54 EDT

>

>From: Dlfnluvr@...

>

>This probably isn't appropriate for this list but I wasn't sure what other

>lists there were. Does anyone know what I should do for my 14 month old

>who

>is running a fever between 102 and 103.5? He won't take peppermint tea.

>I've been doing cool washcloths and lukewarm baths. He's drinking fine and

>eating freeze pops. Any suggestions out there? Marcie

>

>---------------------------

July 5, 1999

Marcie,

That's exactly what I would be doing with my child...I would also just

monitor the temperature closely to make sure that the temp did'nt get

dangerously high...and then let the high temp do it's job...ie kill the bugs

that are causing the temp.

Anjin

July 5, 1999

forget ibuprofen!!! if he's uncomfortable, wrap towels

soaked in cool (not cold!) water around his legs,

that'll ease his discomfort. apart from that, look up

the relevant homeopathic remedy for a high fever, ie.

if his face is bright red, give a dose of belladonna

etc.

sending reiki to all your feverish kids

claudia

--- Shalia Overbaugh <rands68@...> wrote:

> From: Shalia Overbaugh <rands68@...>

>

> I wanna hear, too! My little boy is running a fever

> of 104.5 and even

> ibuprofien is not working! HELP!

>

> Shalia

>

> >From: Dlfnluvr@...

> >Reply-Vaccinationsonelist

> >vaccinationsonelist

> >Subject: fever

> >Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:04:54 EDT

> >

> >From: Dlfnluvr@...

> >

> >This probably isn't appropriate for this list but I

> wasn't sure what other

> >lists there were. Does anyone know what I should

> do for my 14 month old

> >who

> >is running a fever between 102 and 103.5? He won't

> take peppermint tea.

> >I've been doing cool washcloths and lukewarm baths.

> He's drinking fine and

> >eating freeze pops. Any suggestions out there?

> Marcie

> >

> >---------------------------

July 6, 1999

Also place cool washcloths under his armpits, back of neck and groin, these

are the some of the warmest spots on the body and if you can get the temp in

those areas down, it will reduce the temp all over.

fever

> > >Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:04:54 EDT

> > >

> > >From: Dlfnluvr@...

> > >

> > >This probably isn't appropriate for this list but I

> > wasn't sure what other

> > >lists there were. Does anyone know what I should

> > do for my 14 month old

> > >who

> > >is running a fever between 102 and 103.5? He won't

> > take peppermint tea.

> > >I've been doing cool washcloths and lukewarm baths.

> > He's drinking fine and

> > >eating freeze pops. Any suggestions out there?

> > Marcie

> > >

> > >---------------------------

July 6, 1999

Marcie, Shalia,

Regarding fever: It's necessary, but not to kill any " bugs " . Herbert

Shelton said " fever is a life saver. Its suppression is always

injurious " . Sir Osler said that many complications from

suppressing fevers are latent, such as Bright's disease from measles, or

cardiac problems from scarlet fever. Dr. Leonard Tushnet, MD, said in The

Medicine Men (1971) recognized the importance of fever in oxidizing blood

toxins and avoiding antibiotics to supress it.

Fasting, or at most fruit juices is the only safe approach. Don't apply

ice or cold washcloths as they check elimination. Marcie, do not get any

more antibiotics. You're pushing your luck.

gary

Coalition For Informed Choice. Krasner, Director

PO Box 230426, Hollis, NY 11423

fax/phone: 718-479-2939, email: gk-cfic@...

The following article originally appeared in the Well Beings newsletter,

a publication of Vaccination Alternatives, NYC, <va-sk@...

CHICKEN POX: Why Do Children Die?

By Krasner (gk-cfic@...)

------------teaser--------------

While chicken pox is rarely fatal, vaccination proponents in New York

State want to mandate universal vaccination of school children against

varicella. But rather than keeping them away from “infected” kids,

Natural Hygienists suggest a better way to regain health and avoid death:

Keep them away from allopathic physicians!

-------------main------------------

After learning of the legislative attempt to make the varicella vaccine

mandatory in New York, I looked for a handle for an article. Since I

didn’t recall that chicken pox had ever been grouped in the category of

medicine’s infamous “Killer Diseases”, I thought I should find out how

the Medical Boys justified making it compulsory for school children. It

became apparent that the only medical justification for this vaccine had

been the claimed mortalities. I went to the CDC’s website and found

something revealing in the May 15, 1998/Vol. 47/No. 18 issue of Morbidity

and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR, their official publication). It was

entitled, “Varicella-Related Deaths Among Children: Texas and Iowa

notified CDC of three fatal cases of varicella (chickenpox) that occurred

in children during 1997.” A short introduction stated that in the U.S.

there are approximately 100 deaths (about half of these in children) and

10,000 hospitalizations each year for complications from chicken pox from

infection with the varicella virus.

After going over the report, I remembered why I stopped reading medical

journals. In each of the three cases the young boys started out with

fevers and/or other minor inflammatory conditions. Following each regimen

of antibiotics, analgesics, or steroidal medications their condition grew

progressively worse. The doctors responded to each new symptom with yet

another drug, until they died. Having an understanding of Natural Hygiene

(briefly described by Harvey Diamond in his best seller, Fit For Life), I

understood specifically why some of the drugs caused the adverse effects.

But even equipped with a rudimentary understanding of the principles of

N.H., one would realize that chicken pox is not a fatal disease, but

rather a very common, benign inflammatory condition. And fatalities—as

rare as they are—must actually result from inappropriate care, or the

kinds of aggressive medical interventions described in the MMWR report.

With paraphrasing here and there, the remainder of this page is taken

from the section on chicken pox from the book, Food Is Your Best Medicine

by Henry Bieler, M.D. He was a renowned clinician practicing in Pasadena,

CA for over 50 years until his death in 1975. Dr. Bieler’s skills were

sought after by Hollywood celebrities and honored by his peers (a medical

wing was named after him).

Chicken pox arises from the elimination of toxic fat or fatty acids

through the hair fat glands. The chemical burn from the purging of waste

products though the skin causes the characteristic blister of this

disease. This occurs when the liver is congested and cannot perform its

eliminative function and metabolic waste matter (toxins) is then thrown

into the bloodstream. These toxins in the blood must be discharged, so

nature uses vicarious avenues of elimination, or “substitutes”. When

these bile poisons (from the liver) in the blood come out through the

skin, we get skin conditions manifested by rashes, boils, acne, etc. Or

they come out through the mucous membranes (inside skin) manifesting as

various catarrhs, like chicken pox. Thus, the skin is “substituting” for

the liver, or a vicarious elimination is occurring through the skin.

FOOD AND DRUGS ARE CONTRAINDICATED

During the more acute and involved forms of toxemia, such as measles,

chicken pox, fever, or flu, the liver is much too busy neutralizing toxic

wastes to be bothered with digestion of food. Therefore, to facilitate

the elimination of this waste, fasting on distilled water is essential in

such cases. This accounts for the lack of digestive juices produced, and

the loss of appetite that accompanies these illnesses.

After cells have been damaged by the toxic wastes, it is important for

bacteria—acting as scavengers—to attack and devour the weakened, injured

and dead cells. Otherwise, these dead cells would become accumulated

toxic waste themselves. Therefore, antibiotics and other bactericides

must not be administered. The so called “bad” bacterial strains die out

on their own anyway, once their food (toxic waste) is used up. But until

that point, they play an important role in the process that converts

waste for eventual elimination.

The class of drugs that doctors use to treat catarrhs like chicken pox

are called antipyretics. Among antipyretics, aspirin tops the list of

favorites. Aspirin is a phenol (carbolic acid) derivative, with all the

chemical qualities of phenol, but without the deadly effect of carbolic

acid. Aspirin, like phenol, deadens the nerve endings, thereby masking

pain. But aspirin also diminishes a fever by partially blocking the

thyroid and the adrenal glands (a bad thing). The phenol derivatives

interfere with the proper function of the liver and damage liver cells.

The use of aspirin, then, is an attempt to drive out one devil (disease

toxins) by admitting another devil!

THE IMPORTANCE OF FEVER

Fever in a child is a frightening symptom to the mother. Just what is the

function of fever? Is it a harmful process, something to suppress and

worry about? Or is it the body’s attempt to burn up a poison, thereby

helping to dispose of it more quickly?

In the diseases of childhood, fever begins in the liver. In a very

strong, robust child, with properly functioning endocrine glands, the

toxin is often completely consumed in the liver. The child does not feel

sick or have pain; he just has a fever and if the liver area is carefully

palpated, it can be noted that there is an elevation of temperature over

that organ. In fact, if the temperature under the tongue is 105 degrees,

the internal temperature of the liver may be as high as 110 degrees. But

if the liver is unable to oxidize completely the poisons of disease so

that some leak through into the blood stream, then, under the action of

the endocrine glands, the poisons seek vicarious outlets via the mucous

membranes. This may be through the upper respiratory tract, in the form

of flu, sinusitis, pharyngitis, tonsillitis and possibly even pneumonia,

which is a complicated kind of bronchitis. All through this process, the

whole power of the liver is diverted into neutralizing the toxic wastes

of disease, as evidenced by the fever.

The liver is much too busy to be bothered with the task of the digestion

of food. Great strain can be taken off that organ if no food is given.

Not only does fasting lower the temperature, relieve the distress and

facilitate elimination, but it also lessens the strain on the liver and

prevents serious complications, such as middle-ear disease, mastoiditis

and meningitis. Left alone, a fever will not exceed 106 degrees. And only

about 4 percent of children experience fever-related convulsions, with no

serious aftereffects.

A fast (on distilled water, or at least diluted fruit or vegetable

juices) should be continued for twenty-four hours after the temperature

has returned to normal. A good rule to remember is that the bowel can be

cleared of toxins (by physic or enemas) in twenty-four hours; the blood

in three days; the liver in five days, providing no food is eaten.

Shingles (“adult chicken pox”), an eliminative crisis through the mucous

membranes that occurs in adults, may require about a week-long fast to

completely clear up.

It appears then, that fever, dreaded because misunderstood, is really

nature’s attempt to help. It is discomforting, but never does harm; never

is attended with serious aftereffects and never should be suppressed with

anti-inflammatory drugs or fed with food. I have seen many a case of flu

pushed into a pneumonia because some anxious grandmother insisted upon

something “to give the child strength”, such as chicken broth or a thin

starchy gruel, both liquids, of course, but protein and starch—just what

the liver cannot handle at this point.

THE TRUE CAUSE OF “INFECTIOUS” DISEASE

>From Dr. Bieler’s words we gain a little understanding of Natural

Hygiene. So called “infectious” diseases like chicken pox, measles, or

whooping cough are actually inflammatory diseases. The symptoms during

such illnesses should be viewed as eliminative crises. They may be very

painful, but they’re a necessary self-limiting process in which an

accumulation of retained metabolic waste (dead cells that become toxic),

and the residues of undigested, unassimilated foods are being purged from

the body through vicarious (abnormal, inappropriate) channels such as the

skin or lungs. So the familiar runny nose, cough, stiffness, fever, and

numerous rashes, swellings, lesions, and eruptions through the skin are

all manifestations of the same cause—which are not pathogenic microbes.

Microbes like bacteria, for example, act as scavengers to consume the

toxic wastes and the dead cells following inflammation. Their formation

and growth do not precede the diseased state in the host, but rather

emerge in its wake; and not exogenically—from say, an “infected”

person—but rather endogenically, from the genetic material contained in a

cell’s nucleus after the cell’s death and decomposition. Fortunately, a

wide range of bacterial strains, or their genetic “blueprints” (e.g., the

various cellular and sub cellular—or “filterable”—stages that bacteria

cycle through), inhabit our bodies all the time in titers low enough that

their waste products do not affect us. Recently reported villains like

salmonella, e. coli, or streptococcus are enteric and ever-present inside

us. The viruses associated with measles, polio, influenza, and all the

rest are also present—both in health and disease—and may have only an

associative relationship with the diseases, but no proven causative

roles. (Incredibly, modern medicine still hasn’t determined the mechanism

by which a virus causes poliomyelitis.) But when we become toxemic and

our blood loses its alkalinity, the pathogenic strains begin to flourish

in the bodily waste that accumulates—even well before any outward

symptoms (inflammation and elimination) begin to appear. Their morphology

(strain and function) is determined by the type of waste that is present

for them to feed upon.

Symptoms are often triggered by a physiochemical or psychological

“trauma”, such as exposure to cold or toxic chemicals, stress, lack of

sleep, ingestion of spoiled meat, a sting or bite from an insect, or an

injected vaccine. Why these diseases occur predominantly in children is

best described by Dr. Bieler: “The childhood years should be the

healthiest of all. It is during those early years that the endocrine

glands and the liver are in their best functional capacity, giving the

healthy child his natural state of exuberance, inexhaustible energy, and

faultless elimination”. When elimination ends and symptoms subside,

doctors will proclaim that the drug had “taken effect”. But they are

confusing symptoms with cause; believing that the disappearance of the

former equates to the disappearance of the latter. But obviously a cause

and an effect cannot be one in the same. When you stop the body from

discharging toxic waste, you are not stopping the disease; you are merely

stopping the effects.

But more importantly, when Allopathic physicians employ pain killers,

fever suppressants, steroids and other drugs—which are sub-lethal doses

of poisons—they have the effect of weakening the patient to the extent of

checking elimination. This is a dangerous effect, because the waste

products of these germs that have fed on the dead cells, together with

the irritation from the toxins themselves may be absorbed into the blood,

and irritating the already overworked liver—which is the detoxification

center of the body. Antibiotics—which literally means “against life”—act

chiefly by violently stimulating the adrenal glands. But if they are weak

or depleted, the disease runs a chronic, often recurring course. In the

aftermath of these germicides, there are also left fewer germs to convert

waste, and no means to carry off and eliminate the dead cells. Not

surprisingly, there are more deaths today from septicemia (blood

poisoning caused by toxic waste from putrefactive bacteria) than there

were before the use of antibiotics. (One of the boys from the MMWR report

died from it.) Reactions from antibiotics include anaphylactic shock,

aplastic anemia, and induced virulent infections. Death from penicillin

still occurs.

CHICKEN POX DOESN’T KILL; DOCTORS KILL

It’s now plain to see why the children described in the afore-referenced

MMWR had died. They were given numerous antibiotics, steroids,

antipyretic and antipruritic medications and other fever suppressers,

some administered directly into their bloodstreams. Probably they were

given food to eat as well, even during the height of their inflammatory

responses. The CDC admits that children don’t die from chicken pox per

se, but rather “complications” from chicken pox. But what they don’t say

is that these complications are all derived from acute blood toxemia

established by the very treatments used by allopathic physicians.

What does the CDC list as the most common complication? Pneumonia and

secondary bacterial infections (caused by the antibiotics). Other

complications, according to the CDC, include encephalitis (inflamed brain

tissue mostly from the antipyretics), hemorrhagic complications (such as

intestinal bleeding, are the most common symptoms of aspirin—an

anticoagulant, or “blood thinner”), hepatitis (congested and inflamed

liver caused by the antipyretics), arthritis (decalcification of bone for

the calcium needed to neutralize acidic blood, mostly caused by the

aspirin), and Reye’s syndrome (most commonly associated with giving

aspirin to children that have chicken pox or influenza). Prescribing

acetaminophen (Tylenol, etc.) in large doses is also toxic to the liver

and kidneys, because they also check the vital actions of the body to

discharge waste from the blood.

Therefore, to say that “death is a complication of chicken pox”, is like

saying, “bleeding is a complication of holding a knife in your hand”:

each event is neither contingent nor a consequence of the preceding one.

Their association is artificial; requiring specific actions to take

place. Actions that are in accord and mandated by standard medical

practice.

To promote the vaccine, the CDC proclaims that, “varicella (chicken pox)

is the leading cause of vaccine-preventable deaths in children in the

United States.” But while the deaths are certainly preventable, they have

nothing to do with the vaccine.

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January 31, 2002

Margaret....you have an *individual* there....

BTW, have you had his thyroid checked? Low temp is one of the symptoms.

j

January 31, 2002

Margaret....you have an *individual* there....

BTW, have you had his thyroid checked? Low temp is one of the symptoms.

j

February 13, 2002

Is your daughter on a gluten/casein free diet? Many times with a fever

all/most food is eliminated because the child doesn't eat so if your

daughter is a good candidate for the diet, this may be the reason why she

seems so much more focused and in touch with you.

Just an idea...

Joy Insinna

Director

Office: (585) 240-7483

Fax: (585) 295-4890

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Jmcgwelch@aol

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cc:

02/12/02

08:50 AM Subject: Fever

Please

respond to

Autism_in_Gir

ls

I know we've chatted about the fever issue where the kids seem more

coherent.

Grace has been sick since Sunday with a nasty virus and high fever. We're

headed to the doctor this morning.

She has been so conversant it just amazes me. My husband who really does

not notice much, mentioned to me what great conversations they had Sunday

and

Monday.

She told me that she hates getting sick because it's so inconvenient. She

has things she wants to do!

February 13, 2002

I have noticed how much more communicative and in

touch with things my daughter is when she is sick. It

seems as though something just causes her mind to

relax and " let go " . I wish there was some way that we

could tap into that and have it happen all the time

without her having to be sick!

Tamara

--- Jmcgwelch@... wrote:

> I know we've chatted about the fever issue where the

> kids seem more coherent.

> Grace has been sick since Sunday with a nasty virus

> and high fever. We're

> headed to the doctor this morning.

>

> She has been so conversant it just amazes me. My

> husband who really does

> not notice much, mentioned to me what great

> conversations they had Sunday and

> Monday.

>

> She told me that she hates getting sick because it's

> so inconvenient. She

> has things she wants to do!

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

__________________________________________________

February 13, 2002

Grace has not missed a meal the whole time she was sick. Which is why we are

at the top of the height and weight chart.

The dr. has been amazed that being gluten/casein allergic, she looks so

healthy. At age 11, she is 5'7 and weights 140 pounds. She wears a ladies

10.5 shoe. My guess is that by the time she reaches her full height, she'll

be 6 feet or over. She has one girl cousin already there. My spouse is 6'3

and I am 5'10, so we never thought we'd have petite children but not 6 foot

ones either!

After three days of being home sick, she is going back today because they

have a half day of school and she needs some interaction.

She also decided that she was only giving Valentines to the girls in her

class because the boys are too gross. Which just makes me laugh. 5th grade

boys usually are.

April 4, 2002

Funny you should mention that, Dolly. I swear I see it all the time! And

I'm not just talking about physical stuff. I truly believe that I see

behavioural differences as well - especially now that I've been taking my

daughter to Gymboree classes. For those not familiar with Gymboree, it is

play classes grouped by age for the under 5 year old set.

Speaking of Gymboree, two weeks ago a mom brought her daughter to class

straight from the pediatrician's office. How do I know? The girl had one

bandaid on each leg. And frankly, it was gross. She was of an age where she

likely had live vaccines. Even though I knew there wasn't too much to worry

about I didn't want my daughter playing with this child. To me, this child

was " contaminated " . And my apologies in advance, but to me those bandaids

represented the mark of the devil. The following week, I did allow my

daughter to play with this child.

Something else I've been noticing in small children is facial bone structure.

I don't know that generational vaccines play a role in this. I'm thinking

it must be the nutrition the baby received in utero (of course in addition to

genetics). I read Adelle ' book " Let's Have Healthy Children " and she

wrote quite a bit about the impact certain nutrients have on bone structure.

So many children out there with oddly set facial features.

Kathleen

In a message dated 4/4/2002 3:10:22 PM Central Standard Time,

dfansler@... writes:

> Anyone else finding out you can just look around & see vaccine damage all

> over?

April 4, 2002

In a message dated 4/5/02 12:10:36 AM GTB Daylight Time, dfansler@...

writes:

<< Temp never went over 102.8...odd for him...lots of fluids here & Bryonia

(3 doses)--temp now just about normal, stomach ache gone, and headache gone

after first dose of Bryonia. Yippee! >>

Aw that is good news.I am happy he is doing well too

Sara

April 4, 2002

In a message dated 4/4/02 2:16:14 PM Pacific Standard Time,

joanna_at_home@... writes:

> I feel sorry for them, but I also get angry too. Don't their parents

> realise that this is not normal and question it?

>

But you see at this point in time it is " Normal " . All the kids look and act

the same. (well almost all)

Chelly

San Diego, CA

Mommy to Trenton 8/19/99 - No Shots!

April 4, 2002

Thanks from Montana too--my son is much better today. Temp never went over

102.8...odd for him...lots of fluids here & Bryonia (3 doses)--temp now just

about normal, stomach ache gone, and headache gone after first dose of Bryonia.

Yippee! I was concerned as many of the older kids in the same school here have

had horrible flu--higher temps and lasting a week or so (whew!). I hope I don't

have to eat my words, but I think we're over the worst of it. Patience is

essential; and no kidding, " the body is not suicidal " !!

Anyone else finding out you can just look around & see vaccine damage all over?

Just wondered if that possibility could be real, or am I just suspicious &

over-reacting?

Dolly

Re: Re:Fever(was Measles

In a message dated 4/4/02 8:54:42 PM GTB Daylight Time, HolisticMomma@...

writes:

<< Fever is generally something we need to learn to leave alone.

A doctor on the Vaccinations List put it very well " The body is not

suicidal " . I love that.

>>

Happy to say my dd's temp is 98.6ax today(yesterday it was 102+).She did just

fine without a fever reducer,and actually understood that being hot would

kill off all the germs and that it was a good thing to have a fever.

Sara

April 4, 2002

--- DOLLY FANSLER <dfansler@...> wrote:

> Anyone else finding out you can just look around &

> see vaccine damage all over? Just wondered if that

> possibility could be real, or am I just suspicious &

> over-reacting?

> Dolly

no, i think not. it's an observation i've shared with

a few people in britain recently. it is very real, and

no, you're not suspicious not over-reacting - sadly.

:-)

claudia

__________________________________________________

April 4, 2002

> Anyone else finding out you can just look around & see vaccine damage all

> over?

I don't know if it's vaccine damage or just todays lifestyle, (TV, stress,

junkfood, dysfunctional family etc), but when I was a kid, some 30+ years ago,

most kids looked healthy. You know glowing cheeks and skin, clear eyes. We

were all polite and well behaved, and had boundless energy. And most of us

weren't vaccinated until we were in our teens. I look around today at the

babies and toddlers. It seems to be a case of 'spot the healthy one'. Most of

what I see

are stressed out looking kids with circles under their eyes, snotty noses, bad

skin, poor posture, dour expressions and bad behaviour. I feel sorry for them,

but I also get angry too. Don't their parents realise that this is not normal

and question it?

Funny you should mention about facial features. I see a lot of kids that just

don't look 'right', like they have not fully developed properly. Many seem to

lack that 'robustness' that I grew up surrounded by. When you do see a 'normal'

looking child, they really stick out like a beacon.

Joanna

January 20, 2003

,

That's what I think would be the common thinking. But, she was running 102.7

and she looked really ill. The other times she had already been in to see

the ped and he had put her on antibiotics and they went ahead and infused.

But, this time they would not infuse because of the fever. I was just

wondering if there are contraindications to not infuse while patient has

fever. I have never heard of it though.

Belinda Rose,

Mom to Allyssa and Cassie, igg immunodeficient, asthma, sinusitis, IVIG for 6

years, heart condition

January 20, 2003

,

That's what I think would be the common thinking. But, she was running 102.7

and she looked really ill. The other times she had already been in to see

the ped and he had put her on antibiotics and they went ahead and infused.

But, this time they would not infuse because of the fever. I was just

wondering if there are contraindications to not infuse while patient has

fever. I have never heard of it though.

Belinda Rose,

Mom to Allyssa and Cassie, igg immunodeficient, asthma, sinusitis, IVIG for 6

years, heart condition

January 20, 2003

They wouldn't infuse Macey at that level of fever. More than likely she would

get a gram (or two sometimes) of IV

Rocephin and then the doctor would come to the hospital himself to evaluate her.

Then it would be a judgment call on

his part. Usually we would come back in about 48 hrs to do it. But one time he

went ahead and infused after the

Rocephin went in.

Ursula Holleman

mom to (10 yrs old) and Macey (7 yr. old with CVID, asthma, sinus disease,

GERD, Diabetes Insipidus, colonic

inertia)

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Immune Deficiency Foundation's 2003 National Conference

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http://www.primaryimmune.org

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January 21, 2003

No our doc wants to get the infusion in ASAP when Lucas has an infusion.

Sometimes it makes a great difference in his ability to fight off the virus

or infection. BARBIE

January 22, 2003

Well,

I just about gave up giving Cassie the Tamiflu. I tried everything. The

whole bottle is almost gone, and she has not even received one dose. I have

a call into the ped right now because she is running 104.2. I am at a lost

as to what to do next. She still has not got her infusion and the

immunologist is very upset. He was upset with the fact that they did not

give it to her while we were at the hospital. He has raised the dose and she

is going on every 3 weeks instead of 4. He said he would have infused her in

ICU if she was there with a temp. So, he did not see any reason not to do it

when we were in the hospital that day. Oh well, live and learn. She is

finally scheduled for her infusion tomorrow. We had to recertify home health

to come back and start her all over again since she had to go through the

hospital for the last 3 months.

Belinda Rose,

Mom to Allyssa and Cassie (8), igg immunodeficient, asthma, sinusitis, IVIG

for 6 years, heart condition

January 22, 2003