Fever

[Guest guest]

<<I am going to read as much of the Vit c info as I can while she is

napping. People keep saying to either cover her to keep her warm or

uncover to cool her off. What would be your take on the cover

situation? >>

She doesn't have to be freezing, but a light cover is enough, don't let

her get too warm.

M

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I got everything from " put her in a cold bath " to " bundle her up and

sweat it out " . Unfortunately she is in that 'I want to be nakey' stage and we

are potty training, so I let her (at home). Thanks

Amy

RE: fever

<<I am going to read as much of the Vit c info as I can while she is

napping. People keep saying to either cover her to keep her warm or

uncover to cool her off. What would be your take on the cover

situation? >>

She doesn't have to be freezing, but a light cover is enough, don't let

her get too warm.

M

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[Guest guest]

At 10:49 PM 12/19/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>Thanks, I got everything from " put her in a cold bath " to " bundle her up

and sweat it out " . Unfortunately she is in that 'I want to be nakey' stage

and we are potty training, so I let her (at home). Thanks

>Amy

Because there really is no ONE answer.

We are all individuals and you will have to figure out over time what works

for her

Some do better being warm and sweating it out and others do worse that way

BUT NEVER put her in a cold bath - any extreme like that, especially to

bring a fever down, very like will bring on a fever

Sheri

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[Guest guest]

Yes! I find this seems to be universally true. Its tough after 40 years of

going to Dr. for the cure, to let nature do the healing. However, I am glad I

let her body heal itself. It did a great job, and probably alot quicker and

certainly cheaper than the Dr. Her fever was gone by 6pm and has not returned

as of 7:30am. She slept soundly nursing occasionally through the night as

normal.

Bless you all for the support. I will try to be less crazy next time. I am

taking your upcoming course. Looking froward to being better informed and

better able to handle the next challenge.

Amy

Re: RE: fever

At 10:49 PM 12/19/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>Thanks, I got everything from " put her in a cold bath " to " bundle her up

and sweat it out " . Unfortunately she is in that 'I want to be nakey' stage

and we are potty training, so I let her (at home). Thanks

>Amy

Because there really is no ONE answer.

We are all individuals and you will have to figure out over time what works

for her

Some do better being warm and sweating it out and others do worse that way

BUT NEVER put her in a cold bath - any extreme like that, especially to

bring a fever down, very like will bring on a fever

Sheri

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

[Guest guest]

stacey, i am so sorry to hear that you are not feeling well. im sending

you some 'get well fast' vibes {{{ stacey }}}

your videos will wait while you rest. take care!

:*carolyn.

At 09:17 PM 6/16/2005, billsgirl93 wrote:

>hi! i have a fever so off to bed i go...i hope to be better soon so i

>can try some of my " new to me " firm videos!

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[Guest guest]

Stacey,

Take it easy. A fever isn't anything to mess with.

**Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have**

[Guest guest]

Hi Stacey,

I'm sorry to hear about your fever, do you have any

other symptoms? I hope you feel well soon!

Donna

--- billsgirl93 <billsgirl93@...> wrote:

> hi! i have a fever so off to bed i go...i hope to be

> better soon so i

> can try some of my " new to me " firm videos! until

> then hope everyone

> has great workouts!

> Stacey

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Iva, I've never heard of this.

Were you also inhibiting perhaps 4-8hz at those sites?

Simply rewarding the speed you want isn't necessarily a successful outcome, as everything can go up, not just the speed you want.

Just wondering,

Fever

Need help with a case of fever developed 2 hours after a first EEG training session. The session consisted of 10 mins of F3 15-18, followed by 20 mins of C4 12-15.

I just read up a bit on thermoregulation and the temperature-regulating preoptic center of the hypothalamus appears to be under a cortical location that is almost identical with C4 and C3. Could the training have led to the fever? Does anybody have any experience reversing a result like this, or any suggestions? The fever and feeling of cold has lasted more than a day now; I am very worried and your help is highly appreciated.

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[Guest guest]

Yes, as well as 22-35. I could not find any cases reporting this as a side effect either... but then, very few side effects get reported in the first place. May switch to Fz/Cz next time... but I thought somebody may have thoughts about how it could be reversed if indeed the training was the cause." St. Clair, MSW" <mastclair@...> wrote: Iva, I've never heard of this. Were you also inhibiting perhaps 4-8hz at those sites? Simply rewarding the speed you want isn't necessarily a successful outcome, as everything can go up, not just the speed you want. Just

wondering, Fever Need help with a case of fever developed 2 hours after a first EEG training session. The session consisted of 10 mins of F3 15-18, followed by 20 mins of C4 12-15. I just read up a bit on

thermoregulation and the temperature-regulating preoptic center of the hypothalamus appears to be under a cortical location that is almost identical with C4 and C3. Could the training have led to the fever? Does anybody have any experience reversing a result like this, or any suggestions? The fever and feeling of cold has lasted more than a day now; I am very worried and your help is highly appreciated. __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Iva~

Sounds to me like it might be a coincidence and that this is a virus that needs to run its course.

~

Fever

Need help with a case of fever developed 2 hours after a first EEG training session. The session consisted of 10 mins of F3 15-18, followed by 20 mins of C4 12-15.

I just read up a bit on thermoregulation and the temperature-regulating preoptic center of the hypothalamus appears to be under a cortical location that is almost identical with C4 and C3. Could the training have led to the fever? Does anybody have any experience reversing a result like this, or any suggestions? The fever and feeling of cold has lasted more than a day now; I am very worried and your help is highly appreciated.

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[Guest guest]

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Not every effect that occurs after an NF session is related to the

session--especially one that can more easily and reasonably be explained by

other natural causes.

Pete

>

> From: Iva C <kratchanova@...>

> Date: 2006/06/05 Mon PM 02:17:46 EDT

>

> Subject: Re: Fever

>

> Yes, as well as 22-35.

> I could not find any cases reporting this as a side effect either... but

then, very few side effects get reported in the first place.

> May switch to Fz/Cz next time... but I thought somebody may have thoughts

about how it could be reversed if indeed the training was the cause.

[Guest guest]

Thank you all for your replies. Van Deusen <pvdtlc@...> wrote: Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Not every effect that occurs after an NF session is related to the session--especially one that can more easily and reasonably be explained by other natural causes. Pete > > From: Iva C <kratchanova@...> > Date: 2006/06/05 Mon PM 02:17:46 EDT > > Subject: Re: Fever > > Yes, as well as 22-35. > I could not find any cases reporting this as a side effect either... but then, very few side effects get reported in the first place. > May switch to Fz/Cz next time... but I thought somebody may have thoughts about how it could be reversed

if indeed the training was the cause. __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Listmates:

I've also seen people that were about to become sick become even more sick rapidly after training: I've wondered if their system was organized around dealing with a coming illness and the neurofeedback temporarily shifted their internal focus leaving them more vulnerable. After all, we are talking temporary state changes in any given EEGNF training session. On the other hand, maybe they were on a trajectory that wasn't impacted by the training at all.

In any case, I haven't found it personally productive to train when people are coming down with something like a flu or cold. Oftentimes though, they may not be aware and become perplexed because they have trained and now they are sick. I let them know that I have had this experience before and ask them to let me know if they suspect they are coming down with something and we will pick up training when they are in more solid health.

Steve

[Guest guest]

I agree that it's probably just coincidence, but will add that I have seen people get sick after neurofeedback. It usually occurs like this ... People with overaroused nervous systems (Type A overachievers) who haven't been sick for years because they don't have time for it do some neurofeedback that calms down their CNS (maybe some C4 SMR) and within the first few sessions they get the flu or something like that. It seems like the SMR training gives the body permission to relax for the first time in years and they get sick. After that they really power on.

Mark Darling

Re: Fever> > Yes, as well as 22-35.> I could not find any cases reporting this as a side effect either... but then, very few side effects get reported in the first place.> May switch to Fz/Cz next time... but I thought somebody may have thoughts about how it could be reversed if indeed the training was the cause.

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/7/2006 8:20:20 A.M. Central Standard Time, mastclair@... writes:

Steve, I have had the same experience with training not working well when someone is "on the verge", even before they know they are getting sick. It's one of the approved excuses in my practice for canceling at the last minute...(that and unsafe weather-related road conditions!)

Most people forget that training may be a waste of time if they are sick...so it takes alot of reminding.

Wow, I had a different result with my daughter when she was sick. Maybe I got lucky or maybe her "sickness" was stress related, but the training actually helped her have an immediate recovery.

She was feeling crampy, sweaty, feverish, irritable, and nauseous. She was supposed to make a 5 hour drive to get to an internship which started the next day. Out of desperation, I offered to train her. We did a WS at T3/T4 and then she took a 1/2 hour nap. She woke with unbelievable energy and no signs of being sick. Amazingly, she also woke up remembering several things she has forgotten to pack and recalled their locations. (she has add and rarely remembers where anything is!) She made the 5 hour drive with no problems!

[Guest guest]

Steve, I have had the same experience with training not working well when someone is "on the verge", even before they know they are getting sick. It's one of the approved excuses in my practice for canceling at the last minute...(that and unsafe weather-related road conditions!)

Most people forget that training may be a waste of time if they are sick...so it takes alot of reminding.

Re: Fever

Listmates:

I've also seen people that were about to become sick become even more sick rapidly after training: I've wondered if their system was organized around dealing with a coming illness and the neurofeedback temporarily shifted their internal focus leaving them more vulnerable. After all, we are talking temporary state changes in any given EEGNF training session. On the other hand, maybe they were on a trajectory that wasn't impacted by the training at all.

In any case, I haven't found it personally productive to train when people are coming down with something like a flu or cold. Oftentimes though, they may not be aware and become perplexed because they have trained and now they are sick. I let them know that I have had this experience before and ask them to let me know if they suspect they are coming down with something and we will pick up training when they are in more solid health.

Steve

[Guest guest]

I have done theta down training for people who are coming down with something and have had good results--they feel a little more energy and clear headed.

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In a message dated 6/7/2006 8:20:20 A.M. Central Standard Time, mastclair@... writes:

Steve, I have had the same experience with training not working well when someone is "on the verge", even before they know they are getting sick. It's one of the approved excuses in my practice for canceling at the last minute...(that and unsafe weather-related road conditions!)

Most people forget that training may be a waste of time if they are sick...so it takes alot of reminding.

Wow, I had a different result with my daughter when she was sick. Maybe I got lucky or maybe her "sickness" was stress related, but the training actually helped her have an immediate recovery.

She was feeling crampy, sweaty, feverish, irritable, and nauseous. She was supposed to make a 5 hour drive to get to an internship which started the next day. Out of desperation, I offered to train her. We did a WS at T3/T4 and then she took a 1/2 hour nap. She woke with unbelievable energy and no signs of being sick. Amazingly, she also woke up remembering several things she has forgotten to pack and recalled their locations. (she has add and rarely remembers where anything is!) She made the 5 hour drive with no problems!

[Guest guest]

I've also had patients improve when they tell me they feel they are coming down with a cold or other illness. I usually do alpha eyes closed work with them, and many are amazed at how fast they get well. I guess it depends on the person and the type of illness.

-------------- Original message -------------- From: Dlove895@...

In a message dated 6/7/2006 8:20:20 A.M. Central Standard Time, mastclair@... writes:

Steve, I have had the same experience with training not working well when someone is "on the verge", even before they know they are getting sick. It's one of the approved excuses in my practice for canceling at the last minute...(that and unsafe weather-related road conditions!)

Most people forget that training may be a waste of time if they are sick...so it takes alot of reminding.

Wow, I had a different result with my daughter when she was sick. Maybe I got lucky or maybe her "sickness" was stress related, but the training actually helped her have an immediate recovery.

She was feeling crampy, sweaty, feverish, irritable, and nauseous. She was supposed to make a 5 hour drive to get to an internship which started the next day. Out of desperation, I offered to train her. We did a WS at T3/T4 and then she took a 1/2 hour nap. She woke with unbelievable energy and no signs of being sick. Amazingly, she also woke up remembering several things she has forgotten to pack and recalled their locations. (she has add and rarely remembers where anything is!) She made the 5 hour drive with no problems!

[Guest guest]

,

When you say " alpha eyes closed work, " do you mean

alpha/theta?

Diane Curriden

--- anchorpoint@... wrote:

> I've also had patients improve when they tell me

> they feel they are coming down with a cold or other

> illness. I usually do alpha eyes closed work with

> them, and many are amazed at how fast they get well.

> I guess it depends on the person and the type of

> illness.

>

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: Dlove895@...

>

> In a message dated 6/7/2006 8:20:20 A.M. Central

> Standard Time, mastclair@... writes:

> Steve, I have had the same experience with training

> not working well when someone is " on the verge " ,

> even before they know they are getting sick. It's

> one of the approved excuses in my practice for

> canceling at the last minute...(that and unsafe

> weather-related road conditions!)

> Most people forget that training may be a waste of

> time if they are sick...so it takes alot of

> reminding.

>

>

> Wow, I had a different result with my daughter when

> she was sick. Maybe I got lucky or maybe her

> " sickness " was stress related, but the training

> actually helped her have an immediate recovery.

> She was feeling crampy, sweaty, feverish, irritable,

> and nauseous. She was supposed to make a 5 hour

> drive to get to an internship which started the next

> day. Out of desperation, I offered to train her.

> We did a WS at T3/T4 and then she took a 1/2 hour

> nap. She woke with unbelievable energy and no signs

> of being sick. Amazingly, she also woke up

> remembering several things she has forgotten to pack

> and recalled their locations. (she has add and

> rarely remembers where anything is!) She made the 5

> hour drive with no problems!

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for clarifying. No, I have been doing alpha up/theta down at C4 or 02 or P4. I add reiki for some clients.

Re: Fever

,When you say "alpha eyes closed work," do you meanalpha/theta?Diane Curriden--- anchorpointcomcast (DOT) net wrote:> I've also had patients improve when they tell me> they feel they are coming down with a cold or other> illness. I usually do alpha eyes closed work with> them, and many are amazed at how fast they get well.> I guess it depends on the person and the type of> illness. > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Dlove895aol > > In a message dated 6/7/2006 8:20:20 A.M. Central> Standard Time, mastclairsbcglobal (DOT) net writes:> Steve, I have had the same experience with training> not working well when someone is "on the verge",> even before they know they are getting sick. It's> one of the approved excuses in my practice for> canceling at the last minute...(that and unsafe> weather-related road conditions!)> Most people forget that training may be a waste of> time if they are sick...so it takes alot of> reminding. > > > Wow, I had a different result with my daughter when> she was sick. Maybe I got lucky or maybe her> "sickness" was stress related, but the training> actually helped her have an immediate recovery.> She was feeling crampy, sweaty, feverish, irritable,> and nauseous. She was supposed to make a 5 hour> drive to get to an internship which started the next> day. Out of desperation, I offered to train her. > We did a WS at T3/T4 and then she took a 1/2 hour> nap. She woke with unbelievable energy and no signs> of being sick. Amazingly, she also woke up> remembering several things she has forgotten to pack> and recalled their locations. (she has add and> rarely remembers where anything is!) She made the 5> hour drive with no problems!> > > __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Yes most Doc's like Tylenol, because they know how much it takes to harm the liver and how much is safe.

If your taking Aspirin, that may be why you need mylanta, it upsets the stomach and can cause bleeding problems, not good in a person with liver disease.

I can take up to four extra strength Tylenol in a 24 hour period or two grams. I have stage two fibrosis and have had a transplant.

Ask you Dr. I also take a baby aspirin twice a day, you should ask about that also.

RE: fever

I use tylenol for fever.

Gail

-----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of SegalSent: August 26, 2007 1:09 AMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: fever

What can I use for fever> I am not on TX but I am concerned .How about Aspirin and Mylanta ?

Regards

Bill

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[Guest guest]

I use tylenol for fever.

Gail

-----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of SegalSent: August 26, 2007 1:09 AMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: fever

What can I use for fever> I am not on TX but I am concerned .How about Aspirin and Mylanta ?

Regards

Bill

[Guest guest]

I use tylenol for fever.

Gail

-----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of SegalSent: August 26, 2007 1:09 AMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: fever

What can I use for fever> I am not on TX but I am concerned .How about Aspirin and Mylanta ?

Regards

Bill

[Guest guest]

I use tylenol for fever.

Gail

-----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of SegalSent: August 26, 2007 1:09 AMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: fever

What can I use for fever> I am not on TX but I am concerned .How about Aspirin and Mylanta ?

Regards

Bill

[Guest guest]

I thought that was dangerous andvery bad for the liver ? How much of it can you use ? or how many times in 24 hours

RE: fever

I use tylenol for fever.

Gail

-----Original Message-----From: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies [mailto:HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies ]On Behalf Of SegalSent: August 26, 2007 1:09 AMTo: HepatitisCSupportGroupForDummies Subject: fever

What can I use for fever> I am not on TX but I am concerned .How about Aspirin and Mylanta ?

Regards

Bill