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My first 4 yrs or so with CLL, my temp. was a degree higher than normal

and I could sweat buckets from my head just typing like this. I never

doubted it was CLL-related. I also experienced a different kind of

fatigue those years where I just had to lie down, period. Both these

things went away around the time of my 3rd round of treatment. I've

no idea why. But there are other conditions that can produce low

fevers and fatigue so you probably should have a talk with your

internist and see if he/she wants some tests done. See if things

improve as the weather gets cooler—as I remember, they did with me.

Ellen

On Sep 4, 2008, at 7:48 PM, Suzanne Dolson wrote:

> Yes, I feel well but seem to feel tired a lot.  Not sure if it is

> because of not getting enough sleep along with having a 2 and 3 year

> old or if it is something else.  I just always feel warm though.

>

>

>> From: pkennedy16@... <pkennedy16@...>

>> Subject: Re: Fever

>>

>> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 6:53 PM

>>

>> My sister's and mine always run below 98.6. If I get up to 99 I know

>> I'm sick. I suppose the opposite is also possible. Do you feel well?

>>

>> Pat

>>

>>

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Thank you Ellen and Pat for your input. I think I will talk to my doctor about it. Like you said Ellen it could be the heat too.

>> From: pkennedy16@... <pkennedy16@...>

>> Subject: Re: Fever

>>

>> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 6:53 PM

>>

>> My sister's and mine always run below 98.6. If I get up to 99 I

know >> I'm sick. I suppose the opposite is also possible. Do you feel

well?

>>

>> Pat

>>

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I've noticed fever is either an indication of infection or it's a

reaction to the treatment.

My father is on his 3rd week of CAMPATH and has had severe chills and

fever (103 F) which has hospitalized him twice since starting. I

wonder if others are finding similar results or any research on the

incidence of fever and CLL treatments?

Thanks,

> >> From: pkennedy16@... <pkennedy16@...>

> >> Subject: Re: Fever

> >>

> >> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 6:53 PM

> >>

> >> My sister's and mine always run below 98.6. If I get up to 99 I

> know

> >> I'm sick. I suppose the opposite is also possible. Do you feel

> well?

> >>

> >> Pat

> >>

> >>

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> >> here.

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Just wanted to clear something up that maybe doesn't need it, Suzanne,

but what I meant about the heat was that for me, the sweating was worse

in the summer but that it was defintely CLL-related and was also there

in winter. Now that I'm in remission, no matter how hot it gets I

don't schvitz (sweat) from my head like I did back then! Rivulets

pouring down my face just from typing! I took it with a smile, sure

that I must be losing at least a pound!! I'll do almost anything for

that!

-Ellen

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Sorry I'm just now chiming in, I've been gone for a week to my

daughter's wedding. I have had a low grade fever for over three

months now. My oncologist sent me to an infectious disease doc and

ran all the blood work and concluded that it was CLL. Today I just

finished my third treatment of Rituxan which has reduced the fever,

still have a low grade fever it in the afternoon, but most mornings I

am normal. I too have a real hard time in the heat. If I go outside

(I live near Austin, TX), it takes me 30-40 minutes to cool down. I

also have flushing at work and night sweats. I'm still have the heat

problems, but do feel better as far as energy since the fever is

reduced. I was getting as high as 101.8 at some times before.

The local onc and MDA onc have agreed that I need to start FCR, but

decided to give me four rounds of Rituxan to get me through the

wedding, then install the portacath and start FCR. Due to my high

reaction to the contrast dye for the CT scan, they premedicate me

with steriods, and the usual benadryl and tylenol. I have not had

any problems at all with it.

Hope you're feeling better soon. I'm glad to finally hear that

someone else is experiencing the fevers, I was beginning to worry

that it still might be something else.

Michele

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Zingit,

I tested poz over 20 years ago, but have probably been so for far longer

than that. Stayed away from the doctors, the testing and the meds for 20 years

and had no problems. Recently (late June) I got very dizzy, fell in the

street and hit my head on the curb and ended up being hospitalized. I was

dazed

and confused, but not unconscious, and am told I was running fevers. I have

no memory of what transpired for the entire month of July, but friends who

saw me thought I was going to die. My brother intervened and had me put on

some AIDS meds, and believe it or not, everything cleared up. I left the

hospital and went to a rehab center. I had to be rehabilated to be able to

walk.

I lost my ability to walk, as well as about 30 pounds while I was

hospitalized. Giving in to family and friends demands I am currently taking

Atripla,

but intend to wean off it in a month or two.

If it were entirely up to me, I would have stayed off all meds once I got in

rehab. I still haven't had any t-cell or viral load tests (unless some were

performed while I was barely conscious, but I doubt it), as I don't believe

in them. At first I refused any AIDS meds. One of the doctors yelled, like

a witch, " If you don't take them YOU'RE GONNA DIE!!! " I thought it was

easier to put up with one pill than with the medical curse. I can understand

how just the diagnosis and the medical reaction can make a person sick and I'm

wondering if this wasn't a factor in your disease.

My advice would be to take something for a short time, but then stop testing

and remove yourself from the witchcraft.

Ed

In a message dated 9/2/2008 6:04:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

zingit23@... writes:

I have been HIV positive since 2001. Stayed on meds for @ eight months.

Quit take the meds because of the side effects, they made me feel worse. Have

been doing well until now. Latest lab report shows my CD-4 at 51 l/UL and

viral load 149,000.

Had a fever with a headache for 3 weeks, temperature has been as high as

102.6 degrees. temperature usually goes up in the middle of the night. Have

anybody out there experience the same problem if so, what was done to correct

it. Really hate to go back on meds but it seems as though I'm running out of

options

thanking you in advance,

zingit

**************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,

plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.

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Zingit,

I tested poz over 20 years ago, but have probably been so for far longer

than that. Stayed away from the doctors, the testing and the meds for 20 years

and had no problems. Recently (late June) I got very dizzy, fell in the

street and hit my head on the curb and ended up being hospitalized. I was

dazed

and confused, but not unconscious, and am told I was running fevers. I have

no memory of what transpired for the entire month of July, but friends who

saw me thought I was going to die. My brother intervened and had me put on

some AIDS meds, and believe it or not, everything cleared up. I left the

hospital and went to a rehab center. I had to be rehabilated to be able to

walk.

I lost my ability to walk, as well as about 30 pounds while I was

hospitalized. Giving in to family and friends demands I am currently taking

Atripla,

but intend to wean off it in a month or two.

If it were entirely up to me, I would have stayed off all meds once I got in

rehab. I still haven't had any t-cell or viral load tests (unless some were

performed while I was barely conscious, but I doubt it), as I don't believe

in them. At first I refused any AIDS meds. One of the doctors yelled, like

a witch, " If you don't take them YOU'RE GONNA DIE!!! " I thought it was

easier to put up with one pill than with the medical curse. I can understand

how just the diagnosis and the medical reaction can make a person sick and I'm

wondering if this wasn't a factor in your disease.

My advice would be to take something for a short time, but then stop testing

and remove yourself from the witchcraft.

Ed

In a message dated 9/2/2008 6:04:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

zingit23@... writes:

I have been HIV positive since 2001. Stayed on meds for @ eight months.

Quit take the meds because of the side effects, they made me feel worse. Have

been doing well until now. Latest lab report shows my CD-4 at 51 l/UL and

viral load 149,000.

Had a fever with a headache for 3 weeks, temperature has been as high as

102.6 degrees. temperature usually goes up in the middle of the night. Have

anybody out there experience the same problem if so, what was done to correct

it. Really hate to go back on meds but it seems as though I'm running out of

options

thanking you in advance,

zingit

**************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,

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If you don't take the meds the fact is you will die! You can also open another

monster called CMV which if you have had chicken pox you carry the CMV virus

which remains dormant until immunocompromised. When this unleashes you will get

temps as high as 105. It can attack your brain, your stomach and your eyes. Take

it from someone that has it! I went 10+ years not knowing I was positive

heterosexually married and then became very sick. I was hospitalized with

pneomonia and a CD4 count of 17 viral load of 151,000+. They put me

on antibiotics after 2-weeks of being in rhe hospital they sent me home on

antibiotics only. After 2-weeks of being out of the hospital I finally got an

HIV doctor since the one they gave me was on vacation when I got out, and it

took another week for me to get an appointment. He put me on Atripla along with

the antibiotics that I was already on. After 2-more weeks I started getting

temps of 102.5 to 104.8 I was checked back in

the hospital, after some excrutiatly painful tests and a lung collapse they

finally figured out 13 days later that I had CMV, a viral infection of which

there is no cure. Anyone that has had chicken pox carries this infection, it

just lays dormant and you never know it. They put me on Ganciclovir for 21 days

(4 days in the hospital and 17 days at home) since this drug is only available

through IV line I had to administer it to myself at home 2x a day. Talk about a

drug that makes you sick - this one can cause cancer and is classified as a

toxin. Unfortunately there is no other drug. If you don't take this one you go

blind, it eats your brain and/or your stomach. I am now on the pill form called

valgancilclovir until I can get my CD4 over 250 right now it is

84. Hopefully when my cd4 is up enough the CMV will go dormant again and I can

get off the drug. The Atripla is for life and is the best thing that ever

happened to me even with the side

effects which really aren't that bad. 

From: aidsisover@... <aidsisover@...>

Subject: Re: fever

cures for AIDS

Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 8:34 PM

Zingit,

I tested poz over 20 years ago, but have probably been so for far longer

than that. Stayed away from the doctors, the testing and the meds for 20 years

and had no problems. Recently (late June) I got very dizzy, fell in the

street and hit my head on the curb and ended up being hospitalized. I was dazed

and confused, but not unconscious, and am told I was running fevers. I have

no memory of what transpired for the entire month of July, but friends who

saw me thought I was going to die. My brother intervened and had me put on

some AIDS meds, and believe it or not, everything cleared up. I left the

hospital and went to a rehab center. I had to be rehabilated to be able to walk.

I lost my ability to walk, as well as about 30 pounds while I was

hospitalized. Giving in to family and friends demands I am currently taking

Atripla,

but intend to wean off it in a month or two.

If it were entirely up to me, I would have stayed off all meds once I got in

rehab. I still haven't had any t-cell or viral load tests (unless some were

performed while I was barely conscious, but I doubt it), as I don't believe

in them. At first I refused any AIDS meds. One of the doctors yelled, like

a witch, " If you don't take them YOU'RE GONNA DIE!!! " I thought it was

easier to put up with one pill than with the medical curse. I can understand

how just the diagnosis and the medical reaction can make a person sick and I'm

wondering if this wasn't a factor in your disease.

My advice would be to take something for a short time, but then stop testing

and remove yourself from the witchcraft.

Ed

In a message dated 9/2/2008 6:04:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

zingit23 (DOT) com writes:

I have been HIV positive since 2001. Stayed on meds for @ eight months.

Quit take the meds because of the side effects, they made me feel worse. Have

been doing well until now. Latest lab report shows my CD-4 at 51 l/UL and

viral load 149,000.

Had a fever with a headache for 3 weeks, temperature has been as high as

102.6 degrees. temperature usually goes up in the middle of the night. Have

anybody out there experience the same problem if so, what was done to correct

it. Really hate to go back on meds but it seems as though I'm running out of

options

thanking you in advance,

zingit

************ **Psssst. ..Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,

plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.

(http://www.stylelis t.com/trends? ncid=aolsty00050 000000014)

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If you don't take the meds the fact is you will die! You can also open another

monster called CMV which if you have had chicken pox you carry the CMV virus

which remains dormant until immunocompromised. When this unleashes you will get

temps as high as 105. It can attack your brain, your stomach and your eyes. Take

it from someone that has it! I went 10+ years not knowing I was positive

heterosexually married and then became very sick. I was hospitalized with

pneomonia and a CD4 count of 17 viral load of 151,000+. They put me

on antibiotics after 2-weeks of being in rhe hospital they sent me home on

antibiotics only. After 2-weeks of being out of the hospital I finally got an

HIV doctor since the one they gave me was on vacation when I got out, and it

took another week for me to get an appointment. He put me on Atripla along with

the antibiotics that I was already on. After 2-more weeks I started getting

temps of 102.5 to 104.8 I was checked back in

the hospital, after some excrutiatly painful tests and a lung collapse they

finally figured out 13 days later that I had CMV, a viral infection of which

there is no cure. Anyone that has had chicken pox carries this infection, it

just lays dormant and you never know it. They put me on Ganciclovir for 21 days

(4 days in the hospital and 17 days at home) since this drug is only available

through IV line I had to administer it to myself at home 2x a day. Talk about a

drug that makes you sick - this one can cause cancer and is classified as a

toxin. Unfortunately there is no other drug. If you don't take this one you go

blind, it eats your brain and/or your stomach. I am now on the pill form called

valgancilclovir until I can get my CD4 over 250 right now it is

84. Hopefully when my cd4 is up enough the CMV will go dormant again and I can

get off the drug. The Atripla is for life and is the best thing that ever

happened to me even with the side

effects which really aren't that bad. 

From: aidsisover@... <aidsisover@...>

Subject: Re: fever

cures for AIDS

Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 8:34 PM

Zingit,

I tested poz over 20 years ago, but have probably been so for far longer

than that. Stayed away from the doctors, the testing and the meds for 20 years

and had no problems. Recently (late June) I got very dizzy, fell in the

street and hit my head on the curb and ended up being hospitalized. I was dazed

and confused, but not unconscious, and am told I was running fevers. I have

no memory of what transpired for the entire month of July, but friends who

saw me thought I was going to die. My brother intervened and had me put on

some AIDS meds, and believe it or not, everything cleared up. I left the

hospital and went to a rehab center. I had to be rehabilated to be able to walk.

I lost my ability to walk, as well as about 30 pounds while I was

hospitalized. Giving in to family and friends demands I am currently taking

Atripla,

but intend to wean off it in a month or two.

If it were entirely up to me, I would have stayed off all meds once I got in

rehab. I still haven't had any t-cell or viral load tests (unless some were

performed while I was barely conscious, but I doubt it), as I don't believe

in them. At first I refused any AIDS meds. One of the doctors yelled, like

a witch, " If you don't take them YOU'RE GONNA DIE!!! " I thought it was

easier to put up with one pill than with the medical curse. I can understand

how just the diagnosis and the medical reaction can make a person sick and I'm

wondering if this wasn't a factor in your disease.

My advice would be to take something for a short time, but then stop testing

and remove yourself from the witchcraft.

Ed

In a message dated 9/2/2008 6:04:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

zingit23 (DOT) com writes:

I have been HIV positive since 2001. Stayed on meds for @ eight months.

Quit take the meds because of the side effects, they made me feel worse. Have

been doing well until now. Latest lab report shows my CD-4 at 51 l/UL and

viral load 149,000.

Had a fever with a headache for 3 weeks, temperature has been as high as

102.6 degrees. temperature usually goes up in the middle of the night. Have

anybody out there experience the same problem if so, what was done to correct

it. Really hate to go back on meds but it seems as though I'm running out of

options

thanking you in advance,

zingit

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In a message dated 9/12/2008 12:59:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

dd051959@... writes:

If you don't take the meds the fact is you will die!

This hysteria is, in and of itself, dangerous. There is no evidence to

support your statement. People might believe it if they hear it enough. The

fact is there are hundreds of thousands of people who are HIV-positive and have

been for years, who don't know their " status. " Why aren't they dying? If

you believe in the virus you will surely die, with or without the drugs.

You can also open another monster called CMV which if you have had chicken

pox you carry the CMV virus which remains dormant until immunocompromised.

If this is true, why would you want to take immunosuppressive drugs?

**************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,

plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.

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In a message dated 9/12/2008 12:59:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

dd051959@... writes:

If you don't take the meds the fact is you will die!

This hysteria is, in and of itself, dangerous. There is no evidence to

support your statement. People might believe it if they hear it enough. The

fact is there are hundreds of thousands of people who are HIV-positive and have

been for years, who don't know their " status. " Why aren't they dying? If

you believe in the virus you will surely die, with or without the drugs.

You can also open another monster called CMV which if you have had chicken

pox you carry the CMV virus which remains dormant until immunocompromised.

If this is true, why would you want to take immunosuppressive drugs?

**************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,

plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.

(http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

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I don't know why my responses are not getting to this list, but I am

going to try to post directly through the group site:

dd051959 WROTE: " If you don't take the meds the fact is you will die! "

TROY WRITES: I appreciate the passion in wanting to intervene and

help someone with questions, but this is simply NOT scientifically or

medically true. This is the kind of scare-tactics that keep all of us

stupid and unquestioning and the result of mainstream media and

salesmen who are called " doctors. "

More accurate statements to make might be:

There are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people who are living

without medication and show no symptoms or show any denigration of health.

There are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people whose health

was compromised and chose not to take medication and have lost their

lives to common illnesses that fall under the heading of " AIDS. "

Whether medication would have helped, or not, is not known since what

people die from are the same things people have died from over

hundreds of years. It's just called AIDS now.

There are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people who are living

WITH medication and show no symptoms or side effects or denigration of

health.

There are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people who are living

WITH medication who show severe complications and even more who have

died from the complications caused by medications and not from any

illness. This particular statistic is the highest fact of all; that

more people have died from taking medications than they have from NOT

taking medications.

Bottom line: Everything is a gamble. That's the only real answer

that is factual.

Here's what I did: I am taking meds because of the fear-tactics and

the wide-spread pressure to take the drugs is overwhelming. I caved.

But I made my agreement with myself that if I see any side effects

that feel or show as complications, I am stopping meds immediately.

It's been about 6 months now and so far, so good. I don't know if

they are helping me or hurting me at this point. All I know is that I

was getting better completely on my own after almost dying from

pneumonia, so what the medications are doing, I don't know... except

that they are the source of headaches and diahreah more often than I

would like. Long-term effects on my kidneys and liver and other vital

organs... I don't know. No one really knows until it's almost too

late. So...

The FDA is approving new drugs left and right without any serious or

substantial testing, so for any of us to take the drugs is a gamble

with our health.

THAT's the fact. To state that " if you don't take the meds you will

die " is just fear and not knowledge.

There is no known way to measure the strength of an immune system.

The CD4 counts are guesswork.

There is no known way to confirm an indivual has HIV. The Antibody

tests are total guesswork since no virus has actually been found/isolated.

It's all a big mess and no one should speak conclusively on the subject.

Troy

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>

>

>

> In a message dated 9/12/2008 12:59:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> dd051959@... writes:

>

> If you don't take the meds the fact is you will die!

>

> This hysteria is, in and of itself, dangerous. There is no

evidence to

> support your statement. People might believe it if they hear it

enough. The

> fact is there are hundreds of thousands of people who are

HIV-positive and have

> been for years, who don't know their " status. " Why aren't they

dying? If

> you believe in the virus you will surely die, with or without the

drugs.

>

> You can also open another monster called CMV which if you have had

chicken

> pox you carry the CMV virus which remains dormant until

immunocompromised.

> If this is true, why would you want to take immunosuppressive drugs?

>

>

>

> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new

fashion blog,

> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.

> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

>

>

>

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I don't know why my responses are not getting to this list, but I am

going to try to post directly through the group site:

dd051959 WROTE: " If you don't take the meds the fact is you will die! "

TROY WRITES: I appreciate the passion in wanting to intervene and

help someone with questions, but this is simply NOT scientifically or

medically true. This is the kind of scare-tactics that keep all of us

stupid and unquestioning and the result of mainstream media and

salesmen who are called " doctors. "

More accurate statements to make might be:

There are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people who are living

without medication and show no symptoms or show any denigration of health.

There are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people whose health

was compromised and chose not to take medication and have lost their

lives to common illnesses that fall under the heading of " AIDS. "

Whether medication would have helped, or not, is not known since what

people die from are the same things people have died from over

hundreds of years. It's just called AIDS now.

There are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people who are living

WITH medication and show no symptoms or side effects or denigration of

health.

There are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people who are living

WITH medication who show severe complications and even more who have

died from the complications caused by medications and not from any

illness. This particular statistic is the highest fact of all; that

more people have died from taking medications than they have from NOT

taking medications.

Bottom line: Everything is a gamble. That's the only real answer

that is factual.

Here's what I did: I am taking meds because of the fear-tactics and

the wide-spread pressure to take the drugs is overwhelming. I caved.

But I made my agreement with myself that if I see any side effects

that feel or show as complications, I am stopping meds immediately.

It's been about 6 months now and so far, so good. I don't know if

they are helping me or hurting me at this point. All I know is that I

was getting better completely on my own after almost dying from

pneumonia, so what the medications are doing, I don't know... except

that they are the source of headaches and diahreah more often than I

would like. Long-term effects on my kidneys and liver and other vital

organs... I don't know. No one really knows until it's almost too

late. So...

The FDA is approving new drugs left and right without any serious or

substantial testing, so for any of us to take the drugs is a gamble

with our health.

THAT's the fact. To state that " if you don't take the meds you will

die " is just fear and not knowledge.

There is no known way to measure the strength of an immune system.

The CD4 counts are guesswork.

There is no known way to confirm an indivual has HIV. The Antibody

tests are total guesswork since no virus has actually been found/isolated.

It's all a big mess and no one should speak conclusively on the subject.

Troy

EVERYTHING COCTEAUBOY:

http://www.profilactic.com/mashup/CocteauBoy

>

>

>

> In a message dated 9/12/2008 12:59:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> dd051959@... writes:

>

> If you don't take the meds the fact is you will die!

>

> This hysteria is, in and of itself, dangerous. There is no

evidence to

> support your statement. People might believe it if they hear it

enough. The

> fact is there are hundreds of thousands of people who are

HIV-positive and have

> been for years, who don't know their " status. " Why aren't they

dying? If

> you believe in the virus you will surely die, with or without the

drugs.

>

> You can also open another monster called CMV which if you have had

chicken

> pox you carry the CMV virus which remains dormant until

immunocompromised.

> If this is true, why would you want to take immunosuppressive drugs?

>

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Ruth, have you called & / otherwise contacted your doctor & / those

medical professional responsible for your trial? I would contact my

doctor immediately if I have real concerns before contacting a list.

>

> I am taking Revlimid in a clinical trial. I guess I have caught a

cold. I feel terrible, coughing, sore throat, etc. My fever has been

pretty steady at 100.8 degrees all day. I took some Tylenol and it has

come down to 98.8. ........ Ruth

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Ruth - chances are that you'll get over it - However, we are taught to regard all fevers with great suspicion, especially those having to do with respiratory infections - I'm not sure what this has to do with the trial, my guess is that it is not the Revlimid that caused it, however you are involved in a medically supervised situation because of the trial.

My advice would be that if it does not go away in a day or two, I would make a fuss.

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I will talk to Houston tomorrow. I just hated the idea of going to the ER. It is such a zoo on the weekends. I have been able to keep it under a 100 with Tylenol. I will take care of the situation tomorrow. Ruth

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I missed the earlier exchagnges, but it is important to remember that even if a

fever stays down with tylenol, it is still a fever that needs to be treated as a

fever. If someone is neutropenic, it should still prompt a call to your

physician.

Rick Furman

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I will talk to Houston tomorrow. I just hated the idea

of going to the ER. It is such a zoo on the weekends. I have been able to keep

it under a 100 with Tylenol. I will take care of the situation tomorrow. Ruth

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Ruth,

Last year I had a reaction with the flu vaccine and had a temperature, I phoned the local hospital at 1.30 a.m. and I had a phone call back within 10 minutes from the duty nurse, she instructed me to take some paracetamol and phone her back if the temperature had not gone down in an hour, fortunatelly it did, next day I had a phone call from the surgery to see how I was and also another phone call from the duty doctor with a message to go straight to hospital if my neuts were low, which I knew that week had been ok. I was very well impressed by how many people checked my records and acted, which mean any fever with low neutrophils can not wait for the morning. I think they even contacted Prof. Hamblin in Bourmouth who was my consultant during that treatment.

In The Great Western Hospital in Swindon the hospital I am having treatment now they have a system, any one with a temperature do not go to ER, but phone direct to the oncology unit and they deal with the problem there, as they think in our condition we should not be mixed with other ER people.

I hope my experience helps in a small way.

regards and Happy New Year

Chonette

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Chonette, My mind boggles at the thought anyone would call from our local ER. I had a bad night sweats attack early this morning. My bed, pajamas, hair, everything was soaked. That is the first one that bad I have had. When I took my temp this a.m., it was normal. It has only went up one degree. My doctor says I have a bad ear infection and sinus infection. My lungs were clear. So I received two shots and a prescription for antibiotics. I already feel some better. Thanks to everyone for responding. Ruth

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Ruth, it would behoove you, as well as anyone else in like situation,

to get a 24h tel. no. to reach your PCP, as well as your hem/onc. I'm

somewhat surprised that you did not have such contact as I would think

the law of good practice would dictate it, if not then the law of torts!

I liked Chonette's suggestion to make contact via the hem/onc

dept/sec/unit. Also, I would not be so surprised to receive contact

from a local ER -- as they may be " liable " to contact you in a timely

manner as a standard of care.

>

> Chonette, My mind boggles at the thought anyone would call from our

local ER. ...... Ruth

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What other symptoms? runny nose? cough? is she drinking enough water?

I would not worry yet but, make sure she is getting enough water push that as much as you can give her Vitamin C and keep an eye on her. Maybe fruits and some broths or Chicken noodle soup type things. Sounds like her body is fighting something off. Stay away from dairy completely

From: Trish Chapman <twotheark@...>Subject: FeverVaccinations Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 8:47 PM

 Hi,

I know fevers were just discussed, but I didn't read all of the messages and for some reason, I can't access the group home page to search for the messages - says I am not a member. My 2 yr old DD has an armpit temp of 102.9. She is fairly subdued, but is still playing a little, being a little silly, and eating a little. When should I worry??

Thanks,

Trish

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She probably has a true temp a degree higher than that. This is good. Fever is your friend. You can worry a little when she moans and is unhappy, but I would not give any Advil/Tylenol type meds--ever. No need to involve the doctor unless your antennae go up.

Try to hold off on the food unless she begs, and just keep up the fluids and rest. Her fever may very likely go down over night, then spike back up the next night. It can be scary when they're little with a fever, I know.

Winnie FeverVaccinations > Hi,> I know fevers were just discussed, but I didn't read all of the > messages and for some reason, I can't access the group home page > to search for the messages - says I am not a member. My 2 > yr old DD has an armpit temp of 102.9. She is fairly subdued, > but is still playing a little, being a little silly, and eating > a little. When should I worry??> > Thanks,> Trish>

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Hope your feeling a little better..I understand that this is a slow recovery

process. I believe that this might be a flare-up due to your stress. Just try to

take it slow. You are not alone..many of us suffer on a daily basis..some more

than others. I was diagnosed with Reiter's two years ago and HLA-B27 positive.

Thankfully I'm doing better than when I initially was diagnosed. My younger

brother is experiencing the same symptoms that I did two years ago.

Unfortunately he doesn't have any health insurance at the time and unable to

receive medical care in the United States. We live on a border town with Mexico

and he just visited a Rheumatologist. We are waiting for blood work results.

Hopefully, he will get some relief from all the pain he's been experiencing. As

well as you . Remember you are not alone, even if you feel overwhelmed

with all your symptoms right know, you need to be patient to be able to overcome

this disease. We cannot let this disease win the battle and we gotta keep

strong.

God bless you,

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