Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 In a message dated 4/28/99 12:48:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cmarcus@... writes: << I am curious as to what results you have had so far, just with using the silver pulser. Could you elaborate? >> , Thanks for the info. I haven't noticed any changes so far. I was hit with a bad flu in the middle of this and I'm still fighting the effects of that. I wonder if it was the flu or a cleansing reaction? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 Do you feel any different from all those hrs with machine? Did you have any difficulty such healing crisis? Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 > From: Chrisanell@... > > Hi, > > I just joined the list. I recently finished using the Silver > Pulser (75 hours) and I'm going to buy the Magnetic Pulser > this week. I should have started them together but couldn't > wait. I have Chronic Fatigue and am anxious to get results. > Can anyone share experiences with the Magnetic Pulser? Does > it cause electroporation like the Silver Pulser? > > Thanks, > > Chris Hey Yes, the MPG is supposed to cause electroporation (or transvection, or whatgever it is) as well. There is no need to use it 'together' with the silver pulser... using it afterwards is fine. The MPG is used to get critters deep inside body tissues, like lymph glands, stomach muscles, etc. I am curious as to what results you have had so far, just with using the silver pulser. Could you elaborate? Also, I disagree with Dr Beck on most of his comments regarding diet (although he admittedly hasn't made many). I believe it is IMPERATIVE to eliminate certain foods from your diet, or you are just beating your head against a wall. For chronic fatigue, this would be ALL simple carbs (refined grain and sugar products). Also, it may be necessary to severely restrict even the so-called 'good' carbs (the complex ones, like whole grain bread, brown rice, etc), until you get rid of the critters causing your problems. -- Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 In a message dated 4/28/99 4:32:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Es9525@... writes: << Do you feel any different from all those hrs with machine? Did you have any difficulty such healing crisis? >> Edith, I guess I was lucky because I didn't have any healing crisis - just the flu. In the beginning, I only pulsed 1 hour a day and gradually increased to 2 hours, so that might have had something to do with it. Have you tried the silver pulser? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 1999 Report Share Posted April 29, 1999 In a message dated 4/29/99 9:17:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cmarcus@... writes: << Did you pulse for 24 hrs/day for two days, per protocol? >> , In the literature that comes with the pulser, it says that " recent changes in theoretical protocol, being currently tested suggest following up the three weeks of treatment with a 24 hour per day (around the clock) continuous electrification of blood for two days to deal a knockout blow to remaining HIV's 1.2 day life cycle... " I take that to mean that only applies to AIDS? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 1999 Report Share Posted April 29, 1999 > From: Chrisanell@... > > I guess I was lucky because I didn't have any healing crisis > - just the flu. In the beginning, I only pulsed 1 hour a day > and gradually increased to 2 hours, so that might have had > something to do with it. Have you tried the silver pulser? > > Chris Did you pulse for 24 hrs/day for two days, per protocol? -- Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 1999 Report Share Posted April 29, 1999 > From: Chrisanell@... > > In a message dated 4/29/99 9:17:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > cmarcus@... writes: > >> Did you pulse for 24 hrs/day for two days, per protocol? > , > > In the literature that comes with the pulser, it says that > " recent changes in theoretical protocol, being currently > tested suggest following up the three weeks of treatment with > a 24 hour per day (around the clock) continuous > electrification of blood for two days to deal a knockout blow > to remaining HIV's 1.2 day life cycle... " > > I take that to mean that only applies to AIDS? > > Chris Most of the discussion of these devices centers around AIDS, and yes, this 2 day thing was generally decdided on because of the 1.2 day life-cycle of the HIV virus, but other bacteria/virus/fungus also have life cycles, and all of them are relatively short, and the same theory applies to them as to HIV - in order to completely wipe it out, you must get it over its entire life cycle. The only problem is, I don't have a clue as to what the life cycle of the Epstein Barr, or Candida Albicans is, but it certainly can only be more effective to treat it 24 hrs/day straight. no? The 2 hrs/day for 3 weeks is for slowly killing off enough so you can TOLERATE having the device on 24 hrs/day. I will be starting off at 2 hrs, and increasing it 2 hrs each day, until I either start getting uncomfortable detox symptoms, or hit 24 hrs/day for 3 days, whichever comes first. I want to be rid of this CFS once and for all. -- Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 1999 Report Share Posted April 30, 1999 In a message dated 4/30/99 12:05:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cmarcus@... writes: << I will be starting off at 2 hrs, and increasing it 2 hrs each day, until I either start getting uncomfortable detox symptoms, or hit 24 hrs/day for 3 days, whichever comes first. I want to be rid of this CFS once and for all. >> , Wow! I have CFS too and I started pulsing last month. I can't imagine doing it for 24 hours straight. Don't know where I would find the time with 5 kids and always on the go. I wouldn't recommend driving a car with the pulser attached. I remember that you were waiting for everything to come before you started pulsing......did you start yet? Do you drink the ozonated water? Dotsie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 1999 Report Share Posted April 30, 1999 > From: Chrisanell@... > > In a message dated 4/28/99 12:48:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > cmarcus@... writes: > >> I am curious as to what results you have had so far, >> just with using the silver pulser. Could you elaborate? > > , > > Thanks for the info. I haven't noticed any changes so far. > I was hit with a bad flu in the middle of this and I'm still > fighting the effects of that. I wonder if it was the flu or > a cleansing reaction? > > Chris Well, I'm confused. Since 'flu-like symptoms' are one of the most common cleansing reactions to the use of these devices, I'm wondering why you would even ask this question? OF COURSE it was a cleansing reaction. Did you stop? Slow down? Where are you now? -- Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 1999 Report Share Posted April 30, 1999 > , > > Wow! I have CFS too and I started pulsing last month. I > can't imagine doing it for 24 hours straight. Don't know > where I would find the time with 5 kids and always on the go. A good way to start, and would probably be enough, would be to just do it while sleeping. that way you would get 8 hrs/day, and doing this for weeks, or even months, would probably be just as effective as 2-3 days continuous, don't you think? I sympathize, though, I can't imagine doing some of the things I do while being responsible for anyone else - one GOOD aspect of being single. > I wouldn't recommend driving a car with the pulser attached. Agreed. The last thing I want to absorb more of is toxic fumes from the cars and trucks on the road in front of me. > I remember that you were waiting for everything to come > before you started pulsing......did you start yet? Do you > drink the ozonated water? > > Dotsie No, There was a problem in shipping, but I should get it by the middle of next week...and I can't wait to get started! -- Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 1999 Report Share Posted July 6, 1999 Hello, I donot know about the Pulser but, where did you get your AC adaptered Zapper? I have one that has Spring type wires from the battery pack to a Velcro strap with a snap on lead (like for EKGs) for each wrist(you wet the inside prior to fastening to wrist), thus you can be mobil and use your hands for anything during the hour application. Also, does anyone have direct experience with using Clodronate 800 mg Caps(two a day) in place of using Aredia IV ?? It is apparently legal everywhere except the USA and since Aredia is a BIG money maker for Drug Conpanies it may never be allowed to be given IV Here. " It doesnot directly kill cancer cells, but it does prevent metastasis " it is stated. Aredia is very expensive and does have some toxic side effects. I have been on it for 15 months now and need good feedback prior to considering switching to Clodronate. Sincere thanks in advance, Liz At 09:35 PM 7/6/99 -0700, you wrote: >We're trying many supplements including zapper (per Dr. ) to fight >cancer. However, ultimate goal of being cancer free has not been reached. >Have just invested in a new zapper (AC adapter, etc) and magnetic pulser >invented by Dr. Beck. I expect to get pulser in a week. Does anybody out >there have any personnel experience with the pulser? Info would be >appreciated. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Just Tell Us What You Want... >Respond.com - Shopping the World for You! >http://clickhere./click/390 > > >eGroups.com home: cures for cancer > - Simplifying group communications > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: cures for cancer - Simplifying group communications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 1999 Report Share Posted July 7, 1999 Hi , I have seen your name on many e-mails. I was actually expecting to see an answer from you. But I'm glad to be providing some info for a change. Search under Ultimate Zapper or look at http://www.intergate.bc.ca/personal/sweet/order.htm Do you zap for an hour? recommmends three sessions of 7 minutes each 20 minutes apart. The pulser and info can be found by searching under SOTA or Dr. Beck. I still am interested in finding info from other people using the zapper and pulser. ONE FINAL PLEA WE WHO ARE HELPING THOSE FIGHT CANCER AND THOSE WHO ARE FIGHTING CANCER NEED TO UNITE. WE NEED TO HELP EACH OTHER. PLEASE LETS SHARE INFO AND LIFE EXPERIENCES. For example, just briefly on my friend's experience fighting breast (which spread) cancer... Doing OK, about 6 months. Better than doctor's would have thought. Small biopsy, No radiation or chemo to date. Still lots of pain. Takes lots of supplements. Follows Dr. . Will try magnetic pulser. Experiences lots of pain, zapper sometimes help sleep - I sometimes help with hypnosis (not too hard to do if willing to go under). Very tough spirit. Liver flushed twice... will flush again this week. Still working and exercising. Will try Dr. Becks magnetic pulser. BIGGEST REVELATION...in keeping with Dr.'s philosophy parasites are in our bodies... we need to get them out...therefore having regular bowel movements is a MUST...since trying these alternative therapies bowel movements have increased drastically...experienced irritable bowel syndrome (but corrected itself within day). Please feel free to share your thoughts. Re: Magnetic Pulser > Hello, I donot know about the Pulser but, where did you get your AC > adaptered Zapper? I have one that has Spring type wires from the battery > pack to a Velcro strap with a snap on lead (like for EKGs) for each > wrist(you wet the inside prior to fastening to wrist), thus you can be > mobil and use your hands for anything during the hour application. > Also, does anyone have direct experience with using Clodronate 800 mg > Caps(two a day) in place of using Aredia IV ?? It is apparently legal > everywhere except the USA and since Aredia is a BIG money maker for Drug > Conpanies it may never be allowed to be given IV Here. " It doesnot directly > kill cancer cells, but it does prevent metastasis " it is stated. Aredia is > very expensive and does have some toxic side effects. I have been on it for > 15 months now and need good feedback prior to considering switching to > Clodronate. Sincere thanks in advance, Liz At 09:35 PM 7/6/99 -0700, > you wrote: > >We're trying many supplements including zapper (per Dr. ) to fight > >cancer. However, ultimate goal of being cancer free has not been reached. > >Have just invested in a new zapper (AC adapter, etc) and magnetic pulser > >invented by Dr. Beck. I expect to get pulser in a week. Does anybody out > >there have any personnel experience with the pulser? Info would be > >appreciated. > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Just Tell Us What You Want... > >Respond.com - Shopping the World for You! > >http://clickhere./click/390 > > > > > >eGroups.com home: cures for cancer > > - Simplifying group communications > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Just Tell Us What You Want... > Respond.com - Shopping the World for You! > http://clickhere./click/390 > > > eGroups.com home: cures for cancer > - Simplifying group communications > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: cures for cancer - Simplifying group communications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 1999 Report Share Posted July 8, 1999 Hi, The lady I ordered my Zapper from had worked with Dr. 's son on them. It does cycle every 7 mins as I recollect,about and is off for a set period and runs for a total of about 1 hr. This lady was referred to me as a reference that the method works, as her Nephew had been operated on in a Naval Hosp and told his 'cancererous tumors were inoperable and only Chemo and Radiation may help', around vital organs. His dad called his sister, the lady I got the Zapper from, and she sent him the Herbs and Zapper Dr. reccomends. When he reported back to the Drs for follow up scans & etc they ask him where the tumors were, as they were not showing up, he told them where the operation scars were (upper abd,around the heart and stomach area)....and the Doctors said the tumors were gone...that was after 3 months I believe she told me. She sent me a couple of loaner Vedios of Dr. at a conference in Canada taking Questions and Answers and patients giving testomony of their healing and progress, the other was a radio interview of Dr.. I returned the films but ordered my own. If intersted I can furnish an add in N.Y. I have said this before, but will repeat it here, asI feel it is important, that Dr. was ask about Essiac tea curing cancer, and she said she had not researched it, but " that all the patients taking it,that she had seen, tested negative for paricites " . Sincerely, Liz At 05:55 PM 7/7/99 -0700, you wrote: >Hi , > >I have seen your name on many e-mails. I was actually expecting to see an >answer from you. But I'm glad to be providing some info for a change. >Search under Ultimate Zapper or look at >http://www.intergate.bc.ca/personal/sweet/order.htm >Do you zap for an hour? recommmends three sessions of 7 minutes each >20 minutes apart. > >The pulser and info can be found by searching under SOTA or Dr. Beck. > >I still am interested in finding info from other people using the zapper and >pulser. > > >ONE FINAL PLEA > >WE WHO ARE HELPING THOSE FIGHT CANCER AND THOSE WHO ARE FIGHTING CANCER NEED >TO UNITE. WE NEED TO HELP EACH OTHER. PLEASE LETS SHARE INFO AND LIFE >EXPERIENCES. > >For example, just briefly on my friend's experience fighting breast (which >spread) cancer... >Doing OK, about 6 months. Better than doctor's would have thought. Small >biopsy, No radiation or chemo to date. Still lots of pain. Takes lots of >supplements. Follows Dr. . Will try magnetic pulser. Experiences >lots of pain, zapper sometimes help sleep - I sometimes help with hypnosis >(not too hard to do if willing to go under). Very tough spirit. Liver >flushed twice... will flush again this week. Still working and exercising. >Will try Dr. Becks magnetic pulser. BIGGEST REVELATION...in keeping with >Dr.'s philosophy parasites are in our bodies... we need to get them >out...therefore having regular bowel movements is a MUST...since trying >these alternative therapies bowel movements have increased >drastically...experienced irritable bowel syndrome (but corrected itself >within day). > >Please feel free to share your thoughts. > > > > Re: Magnetic Pulser > > >> Hello, I donot know about the Pulser but, where did you get your AC >> adaptered Zapper? I have one that has Spring type wires from the battery >> pack to a Velcro strap with a snap on lead (like for EKGs) for each >> wrist(you wet the inside prior to fastening to wrist), thus you can be >> mobil and use your hands for anything during the hour application. >> Also, does anyone have direct experience with using Clodronate 800 mg >> Caps(two a day) in place of using Aredia IV ?? It is apparently legal >> everywhere except the USA and since Aredia is a BIG money maker for Drug >> Conpanies it may never be allowed to be given IV Here. " It doesnot >directly >> kill cancer cells, but it does prevent metastasis " it is stated. Aredia is >> very expensive and does have some toxic side effects. I have been on it >for >> 15 months now and need good feedback prior to considering switching to >> Clodronate. Sincere thanks in advance, Liz At 09:35 PM >7/6/99 -0700, >> you wrote: >> >We're trying many supplements including zapper (per Dr. ) to fight >> >cancer. However, ultimate goal of being cancer free has not been >reached. >> >Have just invested in a new zapper (AC adapter, etc) and magnetic pulser >> >invented by Dr. Beck. I expect to get pulser in a week. Does anybody >out >> >there have any personnel experience with the pulser? Info would be >> >appreciated. >> > >> > >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >Just Tell Us What You Want... >> >Respond.com - Shopping the World for You! >> >http://clickhere./click/390 >> > >> > >> >eGroups.com home: cures for cancer >> > - Simplifying group communications >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Just Tell Us What You Want... >> Respond.com - Shopping the World for You! >> http://clickhere./click/390 >> >> >> eGroups.com home: cures for cancer >> - Simplifying group communications >> >> >> >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >FreeShop is the #1 place for free and trial offers and great deals! >Try something new and find out how you could win two round-trip tickets >anywhere in the U.S.! http://clickhere./click/368 > > >eGroups.com home: cures for cancer > - Simplifying group communications > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups.com home: cures for cancer - Simplifying group communications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2001 Report Share Posted June 19, 2001 Is any similar effect seen with the zapper, i.e. do you get a secondary effect of lymph movement, not just deactivation of pathogens? Peggy magnetic pulser <For clarification the Magnetic pulser is used to create a mild electric current of microamperes in the lymph tissue not just to move the lymph. How it works is when you have a direct current of a pulsed time variant magnetic wave entering any tissue (in this case lymph) that contains water with minerals it produces a slight electric current. This mild electric current in the tissue will be around 50 to 100 microamperes, just enough electric current to deactivate any virus, fungus, bacteria etc. The movement of lymph is secondary to the electric current produced. Hope this helps.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 The zapper does not produce the mild electric current of 50 to 100 microamperes. The Dr. Bob Beck silver pulser does produce the electric current at the 50 to 100 microamperes. You get the deactivation of pathogens not lymph movement. Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph Personal and Financial Freedom www.herbs4health.com (home page) www.successlinks.com/global-3 (financial freedom) www.16thamendment.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud) www.taxstatement.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud) Watch your thoughts; they become your words. Watch your words; they become your actions. Watch your actions; they become your habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character, it becomes your destiny. Re: magnetic pulser > Is any similar effect seen with the zapper, i.e. do you get a secondary effect of lymph movement, not just deactivation of pathogens? > > Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2001 Report Share Posted June 23, 2001 The zapper does not produce the mild electric current of 50 to 100 microamperes. The Dr. Bob Beck silver pulser does produce the electric current at the 50 to 100 microamperes. You get the deactivation of pathogens not lymph movement. Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph Personal and Financial Freedom www.herbs4health.com (home page) www.successlinks.com/global-3 (financial freedom) www.16thamendment.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud) www.taxstatement.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud) Watch your thoughts; they become your words. Watch your words; they become your actions. Watch your actions; they become your habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character, it becomes your destiny. Re: magnetic pulser > Is any similar effect seen with the zapper, i.e. do you get a secondary effect of lymph movement, not just deactivation of pathogens? > > Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2001 Report Share Posted June 24, 2001 The zapper and the Beck zapper, now called a silver pulser, both do essentially the same thing, but different ways. The idea that an electrical current could destroy HIV in vitro was discovered in pharmaceutical research, patented & shelved, at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine. Six months later, an independent team at MIT did something similar. Beck heard about these and looked up the patents. Then, he designed his original zapper, for which there is a kit called a " plant stimulator, " and research with his type zapper began. Hulda had been using RIFE principles & equipment to zap pathogens. Her son attempted to design a battery-operated zapper, and came up with what we now call a zapper. While RIFE frequencies zap individual pathogens, found her little zapper would stun them all because of its " positive offset " current, something that had always been avoided in RIFE work. Beck's zapper has electrodes that are placed over an artery, such as on the wrist or ankle, and all the blood that passes through that artery is electrified. With 's zapper, it is simply applied to the body, usually by holding electrodes. Both zappers work equally well for zapping pathogens in general. But, Beck's zapper has been proven in research, according to Beck, to kill a number of specific pathogens like HIV, Hep C, herpes type II, & epstein-Barr. They both point out that the effect of their zappers do not penetrate certain objects in the body, like eyeballs, GI tract, cholesteral stones. Beck's EM pulser is designed to fill this gap. The EM pulse stuns pathogens too, but penetrates up to 4 " into any tissue, includeing those objects the zappers miss. There seems to be a lot of competition between proponents of the different zappers, which seems silly to me. They have each been shown to do certain things. They both probably do the same things, but anyone wishing to be sure should use the type of zapper whose research first impressed them. Then, they will know they are getting what they wanted. Beck's zapper can be made from a kit from Action Electronics in California. Ask for the " plant stimulator " kit. They know what you mean. I understand the new kit is almost completed. You just add a few finishing touches to make it legally a kit, and you're in business. This accomplishes the hardest part of Beck's design, getting his special electrodes soldered to the copper wire. I have built and used all of these products for the last 5 years, or more. They all work. The only one I regularly use now is the EM pulser -- not to be confused with the silver pulser. There are different companies making these things & they come up with different names, which adds to the confusion. The buyer has to figure out which one they are buying from the description of what it does or how to use it. jim " Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph " wrote: > > The zapper does not produce the mild electric current of 50 to 100 > microamperes. The Dr. Bob Beck silver pulser does produce the electric > current at the 50 to 100 microamperes. You get the deactivation of > pathogens not lymph movement. > > Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph ----- The TRUTH in 11 words: Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! -- anon jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2001 Report Share Posted June 24, 2001 The zapper and the Beck zapper, now called a silver pulser, both do essentially the same thing, but different ways. The idea that an electrical current could destroy HIV in vitro was discovered in pharmaceutical research, patented & shelved, at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine. Six months later, an independent team at MIT did something similar. Beck heard about these and looked up the patents. Then, he designed his original zapper, for which there is a kit called a " plant stimulator, " and research with his type zapper began. Hulda had been using RIFE principles & equipment to zap pathogens. Her son attempted to design a battery-operated zapper, and came up with what we now call a zapper. While RIFE frequencies zap individual pathogens, found her little zapper would stun them all because of its " positive offset " current, something that had always been avoided in RIFE work. Beck's zapper has electrodes that are placed over an artery, such as on the wrist or ankle, and all the blood that passes through that artery is electrified. With 's zapper, it is simply applied to the body, usually by holding electrodes. Both zappers work equally well for zapping pathogens in general. But, Beck's zapper has been proven in research, according to Beck, to kill a number of specific pathogens like HIV, Hep C, herpes type II, & epstein-Barr. They both point out that the effect of their zappers do not penetrate certain objects in the body, like eyeballs, GI tract, cholesteral stones. Beck's EM pulser is designed to fill this gap. The EM pulse stuns pathogens too, but penetrates up to 4 " into any tissue, includeing those objects the zappers miss. There seems to be a lot of competition between proponents of the different zappers, which seems silly to me. They have each been shown to do certain things. They both probably do the same things, but anyone wishing to be sure should use the type of zapper whose research first impressed them. Then, they will know they are getting what they wanted. Beck's zapper can be made from a kit from Action Electronics in California. Ask for the " plant stimulator " kit. They know what you mean. I understand the new kit is almost completed. You just add a few finishing touches to make it legally a kit, and you're in business. This accomplishes the hardest part of Beck's design, getting his special electrodes soldered to the copper wire. I have built and used all of these products for the last 5 years, or more. They all work. The only one I regularly use now is the EM pulser -- not to be confused with the silver pulser. There are different companies making these things & they come up with different names, which adds to the confusion. The buyer has to figure out which one they are buying from the description of what it does or how to use it. jim " Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph " wrote: > > The zapper does not produce the mild electric current of 50 to 100 > microamperes. The Dr. Bob Beck silver pulser does produce the electric > current at the 50 to 100 microamperes. You get the deactivation of > pathogens not lymph movement. > > Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph ----- The TRUTH in 11 words: Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! -- anon jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2001 Report Share Posted June 24, 2001 What are some of the specific results you attribute to your use of the EM zapper? Jim Lambert wrote: > The zapper and the Beck zapper, now called a silver pulser, both > do essentially the same thing, but different ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2001 Report Share Posted June 25, 2001 Bjorn, I have used zappers for deparisitizing, as she describes in her book, and it works as advertised, for me. I also got a frequency generator & used that with positive offset, and it works also. As does the Beck zapper. I have stopped various infections with them. But, I liked the EM pulser best. It makes spasmed muscled let go in moments. It stops herpes outbreaks in an average one treatment. Zap the point of outbreak plus the intestines, since the colon is involved with herpes. It helped with the itch from the cleansing reaction I have, but that use is too new to comment on. I have also stopped headaches with it. When I use the EM pulser, I always pulse my head and abdomen, as so many infections reside in those places. jim Bjorn Roxendal wrote: > > What are some of the specific results you attribute to your use of the EM zapper? > > Jim Lambert wrote: > > > The zapper and the Beck zapper, now called a silver pulser, both > > do essentially the same thing, but different ways. > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2001 Report Share Posted June 25, 2001 Bjorn, I have used zappers for deparisitizing, as she describes in her book, and it works as advertised, for me. I also got a frequency generator & used that with positive offset, and it works also. As does the Beck zapper. I have stopped various infections with them. But, I liked the EM pulser best. It makes spasmed muscled let go in moments. It stops herpes outbreaks in an average one treatment. Zap the point of outbreak plus the intestines, since the colon is involved with herpes. It helped with the itch from the cleansing reaction I have, but that use is too new to comment on. I have also stopped headaches with it. When I use the EM pulser, I always pulse my head and abdomen, as so many infections reside in those places. jim Bjorn Roxendal wrote: > > What are some of the specific results you attribute to your use of the EM zapper? > > Jim Lambert wrote: > > > The zapper and the Beck zapper, now called a silver pulser, both > > do essentially the same thing, but different ways. > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 Jim, who would you recommend as a source for a magnetic pulser. Many thanks, Jeff _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 Jim, who would you recommend as a source for a magnetic pulser. Many thanks, Jeff _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 Jeff, I just bought a SOTA pulser, so I guess that answers your question. They are reasonable, fast & very reliable. My pulser arived and I tried it, but it hung up in the first 5 minutes of use. There is an LED aray, and as the capacitor charges, the lights turn on from left to right. After 3 minutes use, it got hung where the first 3 lights stayed on and it wouldn't pulse. So, I called SOTA and they shipped another out immediately, no questions, no charging me for the second one til mine is returned. And, they will refund the return postage! Yes, I LIKE SOTA! ANyway, later that day I decided to use it for the first few minutes it would run, before it warmed up and failed again. To my surprise, it hasn't hung up again, and I am using it til the replacement arrives next week. I measured it with my tri-field meter and it registered 2-1/2 to 3 milligauss, but I have no way of knowing if this is normal because of the hinky start. It might be still working, but not at full power. I will check the new one immediately out of the box, because I also tested my pulser made from a Radio Shack Strobe, and it also pumped out 2-1/2 to almost 3 milligauss, but the SOTA seems to have a longer duration pulse, if one can tell that, I could be wrong on. I have always wanted a pulser that would throw a 1 " fender washer across a room, as one friend described his. The fender washer is Bob Beck's low-tech pulser test. If it tosses the washer over a foot in the air, he says it's strong enough. It was Dr. Ben-Elizier's comments that made me take the plunge and buy SOTA's new generation pulser. So far, I prefer the strobe idea, since there are enough pulses to simply wave the paddle around the body, and is faster to use. But, faster is useless if it is not as good. Still, much of this is conjecture based on the output of the possibly defective unit I have. I'll report late next week on what I find with the new pulser. jim Jeff Hatcher wrote: > > Jim, who would you recommend as a source for a magnetic pulser. Many > thanks, Jeff > _________________________________________________________________ ----- The TRUTH in 11 words: Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! -- anon jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 Jeff, I just bought a SOTA pulser, so I guess that answers your question. They are reasonable, fast & very reliable. My pulser arived and I tried it, but it hung up in the first 5 minutes of use. There is an LED aray, and as the capacitor charges, the lights turn on from left to right. After 3 minutes use, it got hung where the first 3 lights stayed on and it wouldn't pulse. So, I called SOTA and they shipped another out immediately, no questions, no charging me for the second one til mine is returned. And, they will refund the return postage! Yes, I LIKE SOTA! ANyway, later that day I decided to use it for the first few minutes it would run, before it warmed up and failed again. To my surprise, it hasn't hung up again, and I am using it til the replacement arrives next week. I measured it with my tri-field meter and it registered 2-1/2 to 3 milligauss, but I have no way of knowing if this is normal because of the hinky start. It might be still working, but not at full power. I will check the new one immediately out of the box, because I also tested my pulser made from a Radio Shack Strobe, and it also pumped out 2-1/2 to almost 3 milligauss, but the SOTA seems to have a longer duration pulse, if one can tell that, I could be wrong on. I have always wanted a pulser that would throw a 1 " fender washer across a room, as one friend described his. The fender washer is Bob Beck's low-tech pulser test. If it tosses the washer over a foot in the air, he says it's strong enough. It was Dr. Ben-Elizier's comments that made me take the plunge and buy SOTA's new generation pulser. So far, I prefer the strobe idea, since there are enough pulses to simply wave the paddle around the body, and is faster to use. But, faster is useless if it is not as good. Still, much of this is conjecture based on the output of the possibly defective unit I have. I'll report late next week on what I find with the new pulser. jim Jeff Hatcher wrote: > > Jim, who would you recommend as a source for a magnetic pulser. Many > thanks, Jeff > _________________________________________________________________ ----- The TRUTH in 11 words: Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! -- anon jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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