Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 Katrhyn why to doubt the message of JR? I mean black salve is maybe good for skincancer but not for all cancers? As I told before I know now four people with braintumors who are in full remission with a rife liking approach but people with lungcancer and coloncancer f.i. don't have with the same treatment any reaction in positive way, except some painrelief. But that doesn't say that Rife is a bad option .. In contrary an oncologist showed interest in the medical reports of those four people and in two weeks we will have an appointment with that oncologist. So probably black salve is good for skincancers and hopefully for mnelanomes and has it to prove more for other cancers. Gr. kees braam webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl Re: Black Salve > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 In a message dated 2/15/03 12:09:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, redactie@... writes: > so important to know who tells the story > and who gives the information I have heard very good things about Black Salve and in fact I would like to try some. Do you sell small samples? It is particularly important that I only try it as I have multiple chemical sensitivities. Please advise. <A HREF= " www.bednbiscuit.com " >www.bednbiscuit.com</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 In a message dated 2/15/03 12:09:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, redactie@... writes: > so important to know who tells the story > and who gives the information I have heard very good things about Black Salve and in fact I would like to try some. Do you sell small samples? It is particularly important that I only try it as I have multiple chemical sensitivities. Please advise. <A HREF= " www.bednbiscuit.com " >www.bednbiscuit.com</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 Dear Johanna, I agree with you for 100 procent. That's all what I want to say. And really I don't attack for her information but like says with the example of Burzinsky it is so important to know who tells the story and who gives the information even if a man like Burzinsky can be sincere. But f.i. what Ralph Moss is telling now to the whole world about PDT and CLT is so difficult to take it in an objective way because he earns a lot of money with this treatment. He really gave up his independent postition towards this promising treatment. And he told me personal that in his eyes is this the only way to break the power of the regular world, but sometimes this is difficult to believe seeing he earns an enormous lot of money with it. Fortunately I follow patients who got the CLT and I'm very close to all what happens with CLT so hopefully I can make an objective opinion. And that's what I expect from people in this mailinglist. Please give with the information and stories also your commercial interest with the product or clinic etc. The product or treatment can still be OK and helpfull even if brought as information by the seller Gr. kees Braam webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl Re: Re: Black Salve > I want to respond to this! > > My name is Johanne, I am 37 years old and have battled a pituitary brain > tumor since 1989. We have four children 8-12 years old that we homeschool. > > I do NOT work for any clinic or have any personal interest in any > organization or product. I want to share that if it wasn't for alternative > health, I probably would not have been alive today! > > I was an oncology nurse before all this happened and my loyalty was to > medicine. As time went on, I succumbed to the medicine the doctors prescribed > and I got worse! After six years of the conventional treatment with no > positive results and the tumor get larger (the drugs were supposed to > prohibit the tumor from growing), I threw everything down the toilet and > decided to go on my own search with alternative health. After talking with > people that have the same condition than me and seeing that they were worse > off than me we decided to discontinue that path. Why go down the path that > has no evidence of success that we saw and experienced? Yes, there were > shady things but there were many more beneficial things that we did along the > way. Our whole family has changed our lifestyle to natural health and I am > still standing. My health is stable and I can lead a normal life which is > such a surprise to the doctor. I shouldn't be in this condition. Thanks to > alternative medicine and many willing to share their knowledge!! > > There is a lot to say about detoxification and regeneration. It makes sense > that to clean the 'pipes' of your body as well as your filter will enhance > your health. Conventional medicine will not advise you there. All they have > to offer is to cut, burn or poison and to limit your lifestyle or life! > > I am not saying that we should discount conventional medicine. I am saying > that we need to educate ourselves and help our bodies detoxify and heal. The > doctor is not trained to guide you in this area. He is trained to deal with > crisis intervention. The doctors that deal with chronic conditions are simply > people dealing with prescription medicine juggling. > > We have been blessed with a few great doctors and a few were wanting to > 'help' for their own interests only. > > If there are products out there that are helpful and do not fall under the > prescription medicine category, that is just great! It is great for people to > share their success stories and wanting to enhance others' lives. If we > continue to stay skeptical, then it will get the best of us and maybe take > our lives. We need to question but not at the risk of excluding valid help > and blindly following the medical establishments like lambs to slaughter. > > I am not for or against natural treatments, I am not for or against > conventional treatment; I am for what's going to help people get better! > > Have a great day! > > Thanks cures for cancer for offering such encouragement to our family! > > Sincerely, > Johanne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 Dear Johanna, I agree with you for 100 procent. That's all what I want to say. And really I don't attack for her information but like says with the example of Burzinsky it is so important to know who tells the story and who gives the information even if a man like Burzinsky can be sincere. But f.i. what Ralph Moss is telling now to the whole world about PDT and CLT is so difficult to take it in an objective way because he earns a lot of money with this treatment. He really gave up his independent postition towards this promising treatment. And he told me personal that in his eyes is this the only way to break the power of the regular world, but sometimes this is difficult to believe seeing he earns an enormous lot of money with it. Fortunately I follow patients who got the CLT and I'm very close to all what happens with CLT so hopefully I can make an objective opinion. And that's what I expect from people in this mailinglist. Please give with the information and stories also your commercial interest with the product or clinic etc. The product or treatment can still be OK and helpfull even if brought as information by the seller Gr. kees Braam webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl Re: Re: Black Salve > I want to respond to this! > > My name is Johanne, I am 37 years old and have battled a pituitary brain > tumor since 1989. We have four children 8-12 years old that we homeschool. > > I do NOT work for any clinic or have any personal interest in any > organization or product. I want to share that if it wasn't for alternative > health, I probably would not have been alive today! > > I was an oncology nurse before all this happened and my loyalty was to > medicine. As time went on, I succumbed to the medicine the doctors prescribed > and I got worse! After six years of the conventional treatment with no > positive results and the tumor get larger (the drugs were supposed to > prohibit the tumor from growing), I threw everything down the toilet and > decided to go on my own search with alternative health. After talking with > people that have the same condition than me and seeing that they were worse > off than me we decided to discontinue that path. Why go down the path that > has no evidence of success that we saw and experienced? Yes, there were > shady things but there were many more beneficial things that we did along the > way. Our whole family has changed our lifestyle to natural health and I am > still standing. My health is stable and I can lead a normal life which is > such a surprise to the doctor. I shouldn't be in this condition. Thanks to > alternative medicine and many willing to share their knowledge!! > > There is a lot to say about detoxification and regeneration. It makes sense > that to clean the 'pipes' of your body as well as your filter will enhance > your health. Conventional medicine will not advise you there. All they have > to offer is to cut, burn or poison and to limit your lifestyle or life! > > I am not saying that we should discount conventional medicine. I am saying > that we need to educate ourselves and help our bodies detoxify and heal. The > doctor is not trained to guide you in this area. He is trained to deal with > crisis intervention. The doctors that deal with chronic conditions are simply > people dealing with prescription medicine juggling. > > We have been blessed with a few great doctors and a few were wanting to > 'help' for their own interests only. > > If there are products out there that are helpful and do not fall under the > prescription medicine category, that is just great! It is great for people to > share their success stories and wanting to enhance others' lives. If we > continue to stay skeptical, then it will get the best of us and maybe take > our lives. We need to question but not at the risk of excluding valid help > and blindly following the medical establishments like lambs to slaughter. > > I am not for or against natural treatments, I am not for or against > conventional treatment; I am for what's going to help people get better! > > Have a great day! > > Thanks cures for cancer for offering such encouragement to our family! > > Sincerely, > Johanne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 My wife, 54 years old with ovarian cancer that has metastasized, had a tumor appear on her left leg - about 1 1/2 " in diameter. We tried a black salve that we got at Hospital Santa in Mexico (south of Tijuana), and the tumor literally fell off in about 3 or 4 weeks. They told us it would take about a week, but it took longer... That was last summer, and there has been no recurrence of that tumor. Not a " study " , but we can say we saw it work...we have pictures, the tumor, and the scar to show... I believe it is better than anything conventional medicine has to offer. Her oncologist here in the states hasn't commented much on it, but that doesn't surprise me... Re: Re: Black Salve > In a message dated 2/15/03 9:20:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, > redactie@... writes: > >> But it wonders me how many people in this mailinglist are involved in > > certain treatments and 'medicins' or work in a private clinic who has > > interest in more patients. You should have told that in the fist message > > about black salve I think that you might have been more honest and reliable > > then now. At least for me.< > > > > Perhaps if you could share some of the data and actual patient information > with us (with their permission of course) it would be helpful. I understand > what the concern is...it is of your own self interest that people use your > product. It doesn't mean that it doesn't work. It just makes some people > suspicious of your motives, which as I said might be absolutely pure. If Dr. > Bryzinsky (exuse misspell) promotes his treatment for brain tumors do we > become more suspicious because he developed it and wants patients? Does he > want patients because he wants to help people or to make money? These are the > questions people have. So we need some backup proof that your salve > works..not just sayso but actually studies...which it would be wonderful for > you to do. Is this something that interests you? > > <A HREF= " www.bednbiscuit.com " >www.bednbiscuit.com</A> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 My wife, 54 years old with ovarian cancer that has metastasized, had a tumor appear on her left leg - about 1 1/2 " in diameter. We tried a black salve that we got at Hospital Santa in Mexico (south of Tijuana), and the tumor literally fell off in about 3 or 4 weeks. They told us it would take about a week, but it took longer... That was last summer, and there has been no recurrence of that tumor. Not a " study " , but we can say we saw it work...we have pictures, the tumor, and the scar to show... I believe it is better than anything conventional medicine has to offer. Her oncologist here in the states hasn't commented much on it, but that doesn't surprise me... Re: Re: Black Salve > In a message dated 2/15/03 9:20:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, > redactie@... writes: > >> But it wonders me how many people in this mailinglist are involved in > > certain treatments and 'medicins' or work in a private clinic who has > > interest in more patients. You should have told that in the fist message > > about black salve I think that you might have been more honest and reliable > > then now. At least for me.< > > > > Perhaps if you could share some of the data and actual patient information > with us (with their permission of course) it would be helpful. I understand > what the concern is...it is of your own self interest that people use your > product. It doesn't mean that it doesn't work. It just makes some people > suspicious of your motives, which as I said might be absolutely pure. If Dr. > Bryzinsky (exuse misspell) promotes his treatment for brain tumors do we > become more suspicious because he developed it and wants patients? Does he > want patients because he wants to help people or to make money? These are the > questions people have. So we need some backup proof that your salve > works..not just sayso but actually studies...which it would be wonderful for > you to do. Is this something that interests you? > > <A HREF= " www.bednbiscuit.com " >www.bednbiscuit.com</A> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 Hi ! There is so many things to share on my journey but I will try to be somewhat descriptive! I was diagnosed in 1989 with a pituitary brain tumor. At the time, I was a Canadian RN specialized in pediatric and geriatric oncology. My goal was to go through medical school and become a doctor! At the time, I married my husband and we were trying to conceive. I had breast milk and was not ovulating regularly. Now, had I not gotten married, this would all have been unnoticed since my need for an OB check would not have been there. Anyway, I took my temperature and was able to get pregnant with our first child, Nicolas. I wanted 4 children in 4 years. Why? I do not know. All I can tell you is that this is what I was strongly motivated to strive for and the Lord allowed it. (The first and last child have the same birthday 4 years apart!) After Nicolas was born, I continued lactating and I never breastfed! The doctor gave me Parlodel which was supposed to dry up my milk. It did not! The doctor immediately warned me of my condition and we were scared. I continued the Parlodel therapy because it was supposed to stop the growth of the tumor. At the time, it was 1-2mm. That size is still big considering that the gland itself is about 5 mm. I had thyroid problems and growth hormone deficiencies as well as low adrenals. I had a miscarriage after this. I know now that this was a low progesterone symptom but at the time, I was still determined to get pregnant, on schedule. The following month, was conceived. I was a high risk Mom through that pregnancy being 4 cm dilated for three months of that time. My husband was a Major League Baseball Player at the time and we already had moved over 10 times in our two year marriage. That year was no exception. With no help, I was moving around the country to meet my husband as he was trying to build his career in the Major and Minor Leagues. With my 4 cm dilated, I managed to make it to 38 weeks of gestation and gave birth to !(More on later!) I became pregnant immediately with Felicia! She too was a blessing and our family was growing amidst this nomadic and lonely lifestyle! I was still lactating from the first baby and ovulated once a year! I must have been good with my temperature because the very time an egg would come out, I was able to detect it. After Felicia was born, I ended up having routine checkups and the doctor discovered my right ovary full of tumors. He also accidentally discovered 20 stones in my gallbladder. I have never been overweight and am really athletic. This was not a typical situation. I underwent surgery to remove the right ovary and my gallbladder. Not very fun! I went home the same day to take care of my three children three and under since I knew no one in the city and would not entrust my children in daycare! What a time! That year, a neighbor started mentioning the healthfood store to us and shared the wonders of echinacea etc. We decided to investigate a little since our children had ear infection upon ear infection. We explored a milk-free diet! Not very long after, the doctor told me that the tumor was growing (MRI) and I was now infertile! I was so upset by those news. Refusing to accept this, I found another OB doctor and begged her to help me get pregnant. I was immediately put on Clomid and we conceived ! That pregnancy was not without activity. was called to the LA Dodgers and off to Vero Beach we went! made the team and I had to drive from Florida to LA with the three babies in the car and 7 months pregnant. What a time! It was two months after that big earthquake that year! Meanwhile, a breast tumor had been growing. It was at a strange location. The doctor told us not to worry about it since it probably was an infected sweat gland! So over the months, the thing grew and grew. At my 9th month pregnancy, I gave up and went to a doctor in LA. I had so many new doctors that I just went in to ask them about an issue and off I was to another city! Anyway, this doctor wanted to biopsy the thing and I would not let him do anything unless it was in office. He reluctantly did that. My situation was different and the children were coloring their little books while the doctor was biopsying this thing. He too thought that this thing was an infected sweat gland. The tumor was more underneath my underarm. IT WAS CANCEROUS! I guess doctors are wrong sometimes! I had him do a lumpectomy and left it at that. I was 9 months pregnant with at the time and I wanted to give birth! So, here I am two weeks later in the hospital in labor and the Dodgers team call in the labor room announcing that we are sent to the Minor Leagues again! We had a couple of days to move our family to Albuquerque, NM! I was not too happy but that was that. The situation with my breast tumor was put on the shelf as we brought home our new baby boy and made plans to move again! The doctor did a tubal ligation this time so I could not get pregnant. My labors always were so hard with no oxytocin to give for the contractions. The doctor always prescribed 'pitocin' and it was a two day affair for every labor. I desperately did not want c-sections because of our lifestyle and lack of support. It turned out a wise decision in the end. So here we are in NM, I know no one and have four children 4 and under. I had no idea how to take care of myself. My husband and I bought 'The Cancer Battle Plan' and started going the health store to get our groceries. That was an expensive change right there. Anyway, we figured that if we feed our bodies properly, it would benefit us. We finished the season there and made it to Colorado three months later to set up house. had played with the Rockies in '93 and we chose Colorado as the place to raise our family. Again, we knew no one here but loved the weather. Life went on and I continued educating myself with alternative health. I bought myself a colonic board and started doing coffee colonics. These were so helpful. I came face to face with 'parasites'. My husband and I were in a microbiology live class here. What a scary time! I started going to a nutritionist here in town and she had very little experience with brain tumors. Who does really? After four months of intense supplementation and cleansing, I was at 80 lbs and very weak and much poorer! I asked her many questions and she became tired of me questioning and questioning. During this time, I decided to seek a doctor to get my 6-week check-up, 9 months later! Oh well! I thought I found a doctor opened to alternative therapy but I was naive. I explained to this man my parasite experience and he had no answer to give me. I had no support! At that appointment, I was told that I had 4th stage cervical cancer! Another hurdle! As that was not upsetting enough, I had my then 5 years old, struggling with two tumors on both sides of her neck. She had febrile seizures and must overall malaise! I asked the doctor to just peak at her even if he was not her doctor and let me know if I should pursue this further. He urged me to go to children's hospital! SO, the day I am told of terrible news for me, I have to rush to Children's with our children. Nine hours later and exhaustion emotionally and physically in our family, the 12 doctors all suspect to have an aggressive form of lymphoma! This was a bad dream and day! We reluctantly scheduled the biopsy/chemotherapy for the following Wednesday and I asked permission to go home and plan a family picture so I have a memory of my daughter with hair on! As we returned home, friends from Baseball Chapel called us our of the blue to see how we were. After sharing our day's events with them, they put us in touch with a person they knew who went to Tijuana's American Biologics and made it out of there successfully. We had a great conversation with him and immediately decided to go! We didn't think of telling 's doctors that we were going to Mexico because we thought she would immediately taken away from us. We got to Mexico. I had my reservations there. Having been a nurse, I was told negative things about Mexico. I was wrong and it was a blessing for our family. We lived in two different locations in San Diego and crossed the border in a shuttle. The doctors there initially did not take children and after having pity on us, located a pediatric oncologist. He did not think that had a problem but was willing to take on the case. (Now, don't forget that I am supposed to have cervical cancer still at this point!) got biopsied with no cancer after all the preliminary tests showed the opposite! The Lord spared us again! Alleluia! We had to wait 10 days for the results of this biopsy and we decided for me to go through detoxification therapy with high folic acid and I did this for 10 days. The cancer left me too! We were impressed at the integrative approach that the Mexican clinics have. and I are the only survivors of the group there at the time. I was unimpressed with their teaching on nutrition though. They were too vague. Maybe it is a useless subject for them to tackle because I know as I counsel people on cancer nutrition now, people are so unwilling to change their habits for every reason in the world! We came home more convicted than ever to change our lifestyle and life to natural health! Children's hospital demanded the biopsy sample and a report. They had sent social services after us and after we sent these things, they left us alone! Thank the Lord there!! I still had this brain tumor to deal with and we did not have the funds to invest in Dr. Bruzynski for the antineoplaston therapy. I don't know if he has any experience with the pituitary tumor situation. It looks like he deals with glioblastomas but I could be wrong on my notes. Anyway, we simply have no funds for that treatment. retired from baseball and since we moved around a lot, you can gather that we did not make too much money. So we resolved ourselves to be more technical with diet and go from there. I did many different cleanses and tried many different diets. None were successful per say but all improved our family to some level. The following year, I learned about natural progesterone. I met Dr. Ray Peat and have been taking his natural progesterone oil at 1000mg/ounce ever since! I know it stops cell division for any cancer and is an asset to anybody's protocol! Our family came down with the flu in January and I wanted to find a doctor who was sympathetic to my natural lifestyle cause. While that was futile and we all got on antibiotics twice that month, she checked my moles. I guess I had melanoma on my back! I never could have known it was there because I do not examine my back regularly! So this time, this thing was again discovered by accident and I upped my ingestion of natural progesterone oil. This did the trick. I detoxified (although I sometimes wonder how much detoxification one needs) and did all that I had already incorporated in my life and it worked! By this time, I had become way more confident. We learned about Nature Sunshine herbs and did this for a while. They did not benefit us but we had to learn about it ourselves. We learned about Dr. Schulze and I did his incurables program and this was great! The hot/cold therapy brought up a cyst on my head. I sometimes wonder how I can get the poisons out of this brain with the blood/brain barrier accepting only sugar and fat in it! Anyway, that was a positive. From that time on, we have been with Dr. Schulze's Formula #1 & 2 for colon therapy. It is better than a colonic but I still have my board anyway! The brain tumor shrunk to nothing and had grown again. Last March, I visited my parents in Florida for the first time in 13 years. It was emotional and definitely an adjustment. My parents do not accept the natural lifestyle that we lead and in order no to offend them more than they were, I ate a few pieces of beef a couple of times and I believe that the bovine growth hormone from that fed this tumor from undetectable to 11mm! My symptoms were severe and scary! I again applied all that I knew and the thing is now at 3mm. My endocrinologist has no explanations why things are reversing like this and she is speechless. I know that what I am doing is successful to a point! I took black salve too! I bought it from somebody here and took it internally. It is kind of hard to apply this on your head expecting something to pop out. I have to lead a normal life here! Anyway, nausea was the side effect for me. It did not take anything away though. I did apply it on 's back. He had two tumors or at least that is what we call them. Both sites emptied on 2x2 gauze over a two week period and left huge scars. He also had another come out of his front side. We are amazed at this. is kind of traumatized about his experience there. He does not want to do this ever again! Now, I am seriously considering Cesium Chloride. It would be a painless therapy with no side effects from what I hear. I am willing to sign with that company that sell this ionic form of the product. I have a precious friend that tried to save money and bought the industrial powdered form only to throw her into ascites and be buried 5 weeks later! When I have enough money to do this, I want to do it right and take the ionic form. I am excited about this testimonies on this and am thankful it came to my attention. I am no expert but life has taught me so much on our lifestyle. I am very cautious about products because even if different MLM companies have special great products, I can't bring myself to believe that one company has it all. If it did, every cancer would be taken care of by that company and life would be easy! I think that lifestyle changes are necessary. One thing I just learned with my friend Melinda that just went to heaven here is that if your spouse does not enter into this fight with you, you can count your days! It will not matter how great the products are. You have to be emotionally even to be able to fight this. There are too many ups and downs to go it with the opposition of your mate. Melinda never had a chance. Her husband had full faith in chemotherapy. He scorned all forms of alternative health. Having a Ph.D. in theology, he is above all of us searching survivors. His theology also dictates predestination so he considered his wife dead from the first day of diagnosis. If that would have been the case for us, we would have had no children! Anyway, this experience for me was a sharp reminder to work on being on the same page with my husband with alternative health. I need his support! Melinda died a lonely, unsupported death. She was so upset and sad that her husband chose to bury his head in the sand and never investigate anything else but chemo! If any of you have any other suggestions and guidance with different cancers, I would value that. Many visit us wanting encouragement and guidance from us. Part of it I am sure is my determination and encouraging personality. Many feel like what works for me may not be what works for another person. I can say that detoxification is universal and should be routine. It does not matter what cancer pops up. How one goes about that may be personal but we all should do this 3-4 times a year! I met a naturopathic doctor through my experience with Melinda who is willing to share with me what he does with 4th stage cancer patients. He believes that I am capable of counseling people that are ready to do the protocol. He does Cesium Chloride and is successful with it. I am sure that many of you have words of wisdom for me too! I am still very green in some ways and I also am on the quest of getting rid of this pituitary tumor. I will not get chemo or radiation and that's that. That's it for now! Johanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 Hi ! There is so many things to share on my journey but I will try to be somewhat descriptive! I was diagnosed in 1989 with a pituitary brain tumor. At the time, I was a Canadian RN specialized in pediatric and geriatric oncology. My goal was to go through medical school and become a doctor! At the time, I married my husband and we were trying to conceive. I had breast milk and was not ovulating regularly. Now, had I not gotten married, this would all have been unnoticed since my need for an OB check would not have been there. Anyway, I took my temperature and was able to get pregnant with our first child, Nicolas. I wanted 4 children in 4 years. Why? I do not know. All I can tell you is that this is what I was strongly motivated to strive for and the Lord allowed it. (The first and last child have the same birthday 4 years apart!) After Nicolas was born, I continued lactating and I never breastfed! The doctor gave me Parlodel which was supposed to dry up my milk. It did not! The doctor immediately warned me of my condition and we were scared. I continued the Parlodel therapy because it was supposed to stop the growth of the tumor. At the time, it was 1-2mm. That size is still big considering that the gland itself is about 5 mm. I had thyroid problems and growth hormone deficiencies as well as low adrenals. I had a miscarriage after this. I know now that this was a low progesterone symptom but at the time, I was still determined to get pregnant, on schedule. The following month, was conceived. I was a high risk Mom through that pregnancy being 4 cm dilated for three months of that time. My husband was a Major League Baseball Player at the time and we already had moved over 10 times in our two year marriage. That year was no exception. With no help, I was moving around the country to meet my husband as he was trying to build his career in the Major and Minor Leagues. With my 4 cm dilated, I managed to make it to 38 weeks of gestation and gave birth to !(More on later!) I became pregnant immediately with Felicia! She too was a blessing and our family was growing amidst this nomadic and lonely lifestyle! I was still lactating from the first baby and ovulated once a year! I must have been good with my temperature because the very time an egg would come out, I was able to detect it. After Felicia was born, I ended up having routine checkups and the doctor discovered my right ovary full of tumors. He also accidentally discovered 20 stones in my gallbladder. I have never been overweight and am really athletic. This was not a typical situation. I underwent surgery to remove the right ovary and my gallbladder. Not very fun! I went home the same day to take care of my three children three and under since I knew no one in the city and would not entrust my children in daycare! What a time! That year, a neighbor started mentioning the healthfood store to us and shared the wonders of echinacea etc. We decided to investigate a little since our children had ear infection upon ear infection. We explored a milk-free diet! Not very long after, the doctor told me that the tumor was growing (MRI) and I was now infertile! I was so upset by those news. Refusing to accept this, I found another OB doctor and begged her to help me get pregnant. I was immediately put on Clomid and we conceived ! That pregnancy was not without activity. was called to the LA Dodgers and off to Vero Beach we went! made the team and I had to drive from Florida to LA with the three babies in the car and 7 months pregnant. What a time! It was two months after that big earthquake that year! Meanwhile, a breast tumor had been growing. It was at a strange location. The doctor told us not to worry about it since it probably was an infected sweat gland! So over the months, the thing grew and grew. At my 9th month pregnancy, I gave up and went to a doctor in LA. I had so many new doctors that I just went in to ask them about an issue and off I was to another city! Anyway, this doctor wanted to biopsy the thing and I would not let him do anything unless it was in office. He reluctantly did that. My situation was different and the children were coloring their little books while the doctor was biopsying this thing. He too thought that this thing was an infected sweat gland. The tumor was more underneath my underarm. IT WAS CANCEROUS! I guess doctors are wrong sometimes! I had him do a lumpectomy and left it at that. I was 9 months pregnant with at the time and I wanted to give birth! So, here I am two weeks later in the hospital in labor and the Dodgers team call in the labor room announcing that we are sent to the Minor Leagues again! We had a couple of days to move our family to Albuquerque, NM! I was not too happy but that was that. The situation with my breast tumor was put on the shelf as we brought home our new baby boy and made plans to move again! The doctor did a tubal ligation this time so I could not get pregnant. My labors always were so hard with no oxytocin to give for the contractions. The doctor always prescribed 'pitocin' and it was a two day affair for every labor. I desperately did not want c-sections because of our lifestyle and lack of support. It turned out a wise decision in the end. So here we are in NM, I know no one and have four children 4 and under. I had no idea how to take care of myself. My husband and I bought 'The Cancer Battle Plan' and started going the health store to get our groceries. That was an expensive change right there. Anyway, we figured that if we feed our bodies properly, it would benefit us. We finished the season there and made it to Colorado three months later to set up house. had played with the Rockies in '93 and we chose Colorado as the place to raise our family. Again, we knew no one here but loved the weather. Life went on and I continued educating myself with alternative health. I bought myself a colonic board and started doing coffee colonics. These were so helpful. I came face to face with 'parasites'. My husband and I were in a microbiology live class here. What a scary time! I started going to a nutritionist here in town and she had very little experience with brain tumors. Who does really? After four months of intense supplementation and cleansing, I was at 80 lbs and very weak and much poorer! I asked her many questions and she became tired of me questioning and questioning. During this time, I decided to seek a doctor to get my 6-week check-up, 9 months later! Oh well! I thought I found a doctor opened to alternative therapy but I was naive. I explained to this man my parasite experience and he had no answer to give me. I had no support! At that appointment, I was told that I had 4th stage cervical cancer! Another hurdle! As that was not upsetting enough, I had my then 5 years old, struggling with two tumors on both sides of her neck. She had febrile seizures and must overall malaise! I asked the doctor to just peak at her even if he was not her doctor and let me know if I should pursue this further. He urged me to go to children's hospital! SO, the day I am told of terrible news for me, I have to rush to Children's with our children. Nine hours later and exhaustion emotionally and physically in our family, the 12 doctors all suspect to have an aggressive form of lymphoma! This was a bad dream and day! We reluctantly scheduled the biopsy/chemotherapy for the following Wednesday and I asked permission to go home and plan a family picture so I have a memory of my daughter with hair on! As we returned home, friends from Baseball Chapel called us our of the blue to see how we were. After sharing our day's events with them, they put us in touch with a person they knew who went to Tijuana's American Biologics and made it out of there successfully. We had a great conversation with him and immediately decided to go! We didn't think of telling 's doctors that we were going to Mexico because we thought she would immediately taken away from us. We got to Mexico. I had my reservations there. Having been a nurse, I was told negative things about Mexico. I was wrong and it was a blessing for our family. We lived in two different locations in San Diego and crossed the border in a shuttle. The doctors there initially did not take children and after having pity on us, located a pediatric oncologist. He did not think that had a problem but was willing to take on the case. (Now, don't forget that I am supposed to have cervical cancer still at this point!) got biopsied with no cancer after all the preliminary tests showed the opposite! The Lord spared us again! Alleluia! We had to wait 10 days for the results of this biopsy and we decided for me to go through detoxification therapy with high folic acid and I did this for 10 days. The cancer left me too! We were impressed at the integrative approach that the Mexican clinics have. and I are the only survivors of the group there at the time. I was unimpressed with their teaching on nutrition though. They were too vague. Maybe it is a useless subject for them to tackle because I know as I counsel people on cancer nutrition now, people are so unwilling to change their habits for every reason in the world! We came home more convicted than ever to change our lifestyle and life to natural health! Children's hospital demanded the biopsy sample and a report. They had sent social services after us and after we sent these things, they left us alone! Thank the Lord there!! I still had this brain tumor to deal with and we did not have the funds to invest in Dr. Bruzynski for the antineoplaston therapy. I don't know if he has any experience with the pituitary tumor situation. It looks like he deals with glioblastomas but I could be wrong on my notes. Anyway, we simply have no funds for that treatment. retired from baseball and since we moved around a lot, you can gather that we did not make too much money. So we resolved ourselves to be more technical with diet and go from there. I did many different cleanses and tried many different diets. None were successful per say but all improved our family to some level. The following year, I learned about natural progesterone. I met Dr. Ray Peat and have been taking his natural progesterone oil at 1000mg/ounce ever since! I know it stops cell division for any cancer and is an asset to anybody's protocol! Our family came down with the flu in January and I wanted to find a doctor who was sympathetic to my natural lifestyle cause. While that was futile and we all got on antibiotics twice that month, she checked my moles. I guess I had melanoma on my back! I never could have known it was there because I do not examine my back regularly! So this time, this thing was again discovered by accident and I upped my ingestion of natural progesterone oil. This did the trick. I detoxified (although I sometimes wonder how much detoxification one needs) and did all that I had already incorporated in my life and it worked! By this time, I had become way more confident. We learned about Nature Sunshine herbs and did this for a while. They did not benefit us but we had to learn about it ourselves. We learned about Dr. Schulze and I did his incurables program and this was great! The hot/cold therapy brought up a cyst on my head. I sometimes wonder how I can get the poisons out of this brain with the blood/brain barrier accepting only sugar and fat in it! Anyway, that was a positive. From that time on, we have been with Dr. Schulze's Formula #1 & 2 for colon therapy. It is better than a colonic but I still have my board anyway! The brain tumor shrunk to nothing and had grown again. Last March, I visited my parents in Florida for the first time in 13 years. It was emotional and definitely an adjustment. My parents do not accept the natural lifestyle that we lead and in order no to offend them more than they were, I ate a few pieces of beef a couple of times and I believe that the bovine growth hormone from that fed this tumor from undetectable to 11mm! My symptoms were severe and scary! I again applied all that I knew and the thing is now at 3mm. My endocrinologist has no explanations why things are reversing like this and she is speechless. I know that what I am doing is successful to a point! I took black salve too! I bought it from somebody here and took it internally. It is kind of hard to apply this on your head expecting something to pop out. I have to lead a normal life here! Anyway, nausea was the side effect for me. It did not take anything away though. I did apply it on 's back. He had two tumors or at least that is what we call them. Both sites emptied on 2x2 gauze over a two week period and left huge scars. He also had another come out of his front side. We are amazed at this. is kind of traumatized about his experience there. He does not want to do this ever again! Now, I am seriously considering Cesium Chloride. It would be a painless therapy with no side effects from what I hear. I am willing to sign with that company that sell this ionic form of the product. I have a precious friend that tried to save money and bought the industrial powdered form only to throw her into ascites and be buried 5 weeks later! When I have enough money to do this, I want to do it right and take the ionic form. I am excited about this testimonies on this and am thankful it came to my attention. I am no expert but life has taught me so much on our lifestyle. I am very cautious about products because even if different MLM companies have special great products, I can't bring myself to believe that one company has it all. If it did, every cancer would be taken care of by that company and life would be easy! I think that lifestyle changes are necessary. One thing I just learned with my friend Melinda that just went to heaven here is that if your spouse does not enter into this fight with you, you can count your days! It will not matter how great the products are. You have to be emotionally even to be able to fight this. There are too many ups and downs to go it with the opposition of your mate. Melinda never had a chance. Her husband had full faith in chemotherapy. He scorned all forms of alternative health. Having a Ph.D. in theology, he is above all of us searching survivors. His theology also dictates predestination so he considered his wife dead from the first day of diagnosis. If that would have been the case for us, we would have had no children! Anyway, this experience for me was a sharp reminder to work on being on the same page with my husband with alternative health. I need his support! Melinda died a lonely, unsupported death. She was so upset and sad that her husband chose to bury his head in the sand and never investigate anything else but chemo! If any of you have any other suggestions and guidance with different cancers, I would value that. Many visit us wanting encouragement and guidance from us. Part of it I am sure is my determination and encouraging personality. Many feel like what works for me may not be what works for another person. I can say that detoxification is universal and should be routine. It does not matter what cancer pops up. How one goes about that may be personal but we all should do this 3-4 times a year! I met a naturopathic doctor through my experience with Melinda who is willing to share with me what he does with 4th stage cancer patients. He believes that I am capable of counseling people that are ready to do the protocol. He does Cesium Chloride and is successful with it. I am sure that many of you have words of wisdom for me too! I am still very green in some ways and I also am on the quest of getting rid of this pituitary tumor. I will not get chemo or radiation and that's that. That's it for now! Johanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 In a message dated 2/16/03 9:15:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, redactie@... writes: > But better ask Ralph Moss Hello, Thank you for writing to me. How do I reach Ralph Moss? Thanks , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 In a message dated 2/16/03 9:15:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, redactie@... writes: > But better ask Ralph Moss Hello, Thank you for writing to me. How do I reach Ralph Moss? Thanks , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 I don't know anything about black salve and we don't sell anything. I/we just give information about recent developments around treatments and 'natural 'medicins for cancer at our website first in Dutch www.kanker-actueel.nl and some in english. www.kanker-actueel.nl/index_e.html But CLT seems to give a simular effect as what the black salve does. And a physician/scientist who gives me regular information about all kind of things sended me the information about Bloodroot. And CLT www.kanker-actueel.nl/oth_al.CLT.html is also possible to take in a salve or oral. But better ask Ralph Moss he knows more about it though he gave up his independent position by starting his company for CLT. I think this is so pity and also doubtfull in my opinion. He was always the objective and independent persoon in the field of complementary treatments and natural 'medicins' and now he becomes a salesman of CLT. This is hard to understand for me. but probably I don't know all of the backgrounds and will he have his reasons for doing so. Hopefully it is not the big money which hits him too. Gr. kees braam webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl Re: Re: Black Salve > In a message dated 2/15/03 12:09:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, > redactie@... writes: > > > > so important to know who tells the story > > and who gives the information > > I have heard very good things about Black Salve and in fact I would like to > try some. Do you sell small samples? It is particularly important that I > only try it as I have multiple chemical sensitivities. > Please advise. > > <A HREF= " www.bednbiscuit.com " >www.bednbiscuit.com</A> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 I don't know anything about black salve and we don't sell anything. I/we just give information about recent developments around treatments and 'natural 'medicins for cancer at our website first in Dutch www.kanker-actueel.nl and some in english. www.kanker-actueel.nl/index_e.html But CLT seems to give a simular effect as what the black salve does. And a physician/scientist who gives me regular information about all kind of things sended me the information about Bloodroot. And CLT www.kanker-actueel.nl/oth_al.CLT.html is also possible to take in a salve or oral. But better ask Ralph Moss he knows more about it though he gave up his independent position by starting his company for CLT. I think this is so pity and also doubtfull in my opinion. He was always the objective and independent persoon in the field of complementary treatments and natural 'medicins' and now he becomes a salesman of CLT. This is hard to understand for me. but probably I don't know all of the backgrounds and will he have his reasons for doing so. Hopefully it is not the big money which hits him too. Gr. kees braam webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl Re: Re: Black Salve > In a message dated 2/15/03 12:09:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, > redactie@... writes: > > > > so important to know who tells the story > > and who gives the information > > I have heard very good things about Black Salve and in fact I would like to > try some. Do you sell small samples? It is particularly important that I > only try it as I have multiple chemical sensitivities. > Please advise. > > <A HREF= " www.bednbiscuit.com " >www.bednbiscuit.com</A> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 Ralph you can reach by www.cancerdecisions.com I have also his personal number etc. but I don't want to give that in a mailinglist like this. Gr. kees Braam webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl Re: Re: Black Salve > In a message dated 2/16/03 9:15:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, > redactie@... writes: > > > > But better ask Ralph Moss > > Hello, > Thank you for writing to me. How do I reach Ralph Moss? > Thanks , > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 Ralph you can reach by www.cancerdecisions.com I have also his personal number etc. but I don't want to give that in a mailinglist like this. Gr. kees Braam webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl Re: Re: Black Salve > In a message dated 2/16/03 9:15:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, > redactie@... writes: > > > > But better ask Ralph Moss > > Hello, > Thank you for writing to me. How do I reach Ralph Moss? > Thanks , > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 Hello, I am very much interested in your Black Salve. Please e-mail me the information at - - - golflvr111@.... Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 Hello, I am very much interested in your Black Salve. Please e-mail me the information at - - - golflvr111@.... Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 I am new to the group and would love more info on the black salve as well........ thankyou! **I have learned to seek my happiness by limiting my desires, rather than in attempting to satisfy them** ~~~ Jade ~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 I am new to the group and would love more info on the black salve as well........ thankyou! **I have learned to seek my happiness by limiting my desires, rather than in attempting to satisfy them** ~~~ Jade ~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 If you will write to me privately I will send you the information on the salve. Your email on here did not work for me. thanks > Hello, I am very much interested in your Black Salve. Please e- mail me the > information at - - - golflvr111@a... > Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 If you will write to me privately I will send you the information on the salve. Your email on here did not work for me. thanks > Hello, I am very much interested in your Black Salve. Please e- mail me the > information at - - - golflvr111@a... > Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 kathryn......I have tried writing you privately, but for some reason you have not responded so I figured I would try to reach you through the group. I am very much interested in the black salve. thanks . e-mail golflvr111@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 kathryn......I have tried writing you privately, but for some reason you have not responded so I figured I would try to reach you through the group. I am very much interested in the black salve. thanks . e-mail golflvr111@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 a hoxsey type of black salve is at altcancer.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 a hoxsey type of black salve is at altcancer.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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