Re: Osteoarthritis.........Mag/Pulser and knee pain..gettting worse ???

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Might want to take a closer look at the knee, if it doesn't get better.

My daughter was having lots of pain in her heel/ankle. Did lots of non

intrusive stuff like therapy and wearing a boot to work, even used the MP on it.

But after several months, with no improvement, had an MRI which showed a torn

ligament and eventually had to have surgery to repair it. That wasn't her first

choice, but the other didn't work.

There could be more going on with your knee than just arthritis. Just a

thought.

Gail

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> I have been using the Mag Pulser for about 3 weeks on the knee and the pain

has gotten worse. I am not sure if there is something I am doing wrong or what.?

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robert, the magnetic pulser can move fluids out of an area of pressure. it can

reduce pain in carpal tunnel, by removing fluid from swollen nerves. that is

all good.

where it gives me pause, just in my opinion, is that the same force that removes

fluids and reduces pressure would tend to make your joint less fluid and thus

hurt as the hard surfaces are less lubricated. Am I making sense?

Another issue with mag pulsers is the use on things like MRSA where you could be

pushing fluids out of a local infection where the body is trying to contain them

there. It might not be a problem, but it also might cause the infection go go

systemic. You don't want that, you want it contained.

So...to me...and there are others out there who will maybe disagree, movement

of fluid away from an area, as the pulser definitely accomplishes, is something

you have to think about in each situation. So do you want the fluid gone? Where

will it go? Etc.

In a joint there is hyaluronic acid a lubricant. Doctors sometimes inject it

right into a painful joint. Some sell supplements using HA. I have no idea how

good they are. When I was undertaking a weight training program, I supplemented

with HA in a very expensive fluid of high " Daltons " value, just in case, to help

provide better lubrication and protect the joints against irritation from the

heavy pressure that would tend to drive the fluid out of the joint. I have no

idea if it helped or not, as it was just insurance so to speak.

Good luck with the knee.

bG

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> I have been using the Mag Pulser for about 3 weeks on the knee and the pain

has gotten worse. I am not sure if there is something I am doing wrong or what.?

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[Guest guest]

HiA magnetic pulser is effective if the pain comes from a pathogen based infection. As Gail says pain may result from mechanical damage and although a pulser may reduce the pain, or at least do no harm, it is unlikely to heal it. A scan would be the best option to show if there is damage and your MD may then advise treatment.Knowing what the problem is would then guide you to other alternative treatments which may help. DMSO could be effective to reduce pain, also low voltage DC current from a Beck Zapper, tens machine or other similar device used directly across the source of the pain could also be useful. DaveFrom: wanda85929 <wanda85929@...> Sent: Sunday, 16 October 2011 7:09 AMSubject: Re: Osteoarthritis.........Mag/Pulser and knee pain..gettting worse ???

Might want to take a closer look at the knee, if it doesn't get better.

My daughter was having lots of pain in her heel/ankle. Did lots of non intrusive stuff like therapy and wearing a boot to work, even used the MP on it. But after several months, with no improvement, had an MRI which showed a torn ligament and eventually had to have surgery to repair it. That wasn't her first choice, but the other didn't work.

There could be more going on with your knee than just arthritis. Just a thought.

Gail

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> I have been using the Mag Pulser for about 3 weeks on the knee and the pain has gotten worse. I am not sure if there is something I am doing wrong or what.?

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I have a worn out knee/leg, that is crooked and had previous operations.

I was told years ago, that knee replacement was needed, but they don't want to

do them until the pain is unbearable, then they do them.I don't think there is

any ligament. tendon damage although from what I under stand they get stretched

and loose, which causes the joint to scrape.

I was hoping that the Mag/Pulser may cause some regeneration, and it may but it

is too soon to tell.

I don't expect miracles with the MP or maybe I do. Miracle meaning restored to

health. Not a straight new knee but some function without pain and time until

knee replacements are improved with newer technology.

From what I understand according to Hal Huggins, any implant into bone (knee

replacement) causes an immune system reaction. This I do not need.

Thanks Gail.

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I don't have to much swelling and or fluid just I think what they call bone on

bone and bad alignment from wear and tear.

I have taken Hyaluronic acid " Hyla-Joint " Trade Mark. 100mg on and of over the

last few years but not on a constant schedule. I restarted a few days ago when

the pain go severe. I will take 2 (100mg) twice a day. I will also restart UC

II " undenatured type 2 chicken collagen 10mg this is supposed to counter the

body attacking the tissue that is destroyed from the immune system on cartilage.

I have been on large doses of Cosamin DS glucosamine/chondroitin.

To no avail, I think it is helping my other joints from damage, however , from

what I understand there has to be something there to rebuild, if it to far gone

the supplements may not help.

I also have been taking gelatin and egg shell membrane which are supposed to

provide support.

I am hoping there may be some regeneration from the Magnetic Pulsing so I will

continue the supplements so if it does occur there will be some nutrients to

build with.

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I have on possible problem, I have a metal staple in the knee on the outside

where the pain is occuring. The pain was on the inside where most OA happens as

the knee bows inward. But now the pain has shifted to the outside where the

staple is. The staple are supposed to be no magnetic and I don't feel a snap

from the pulser when it is on. They don't recommend using it where metal is ,

but I have read otherwise.

Maybe that is the interference field the staple.?

I do need to get an Xray to see the extent of the knee damage.

I would like to get Prolotherapy or as my Doctor calls it Reconstructive

/therapy.

I have even heard that Prolozone is effective at rebuilding joints?

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Hi ,

I don't think you are suppose to use the MP if there's any pins, or things of

that nature. Your metal staple might be part of the problem. Personally, I'd

stop using it as it seems to be making it worse. I'm thinking the MP can

actually move the pins or something like that. Don't remember for sure.

I'm sure you've thought over your options, but I just wanted to say I think

they've made some good advancement with replacements. Also, being in constant

pain can affect your already challenged immune system.

My daughter's fathernlaw has had both knees replaced, as well as a hip

replavement, and back surgery. He played handball for years, which I'm sure

played havoc on his body. Infact, he had the knee replacement in order to be

able to keep playing handball. The man also has cfs and is doing remarkable

well living painfree now and playing handball.

Alternatively, check out immune tree colostrum. You can read up on it on

Donna's site. I think it's www.donnacrow.com which should bring up her various

sites. Click on 'bulk colustrum' and then the testimonials. It'll give you

lots of information that might help. She also has information about joints and

stuff. Might be helpful.

Gail

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ps

Forgot to mention MSM. Check out www.msm-msm.com out of Phoenix for excellent

prices. They also have other supplements for joint support at good prices.

Their company is PC NetwoPx. Really good prices.

I remember hearing a testimonial about a guy that prevented surgery by using

large amounts of MSM. Can't remember what the surgery was tho or even how much

MSM he used. Seemed like it was somethilng like 16 tlbs daily but not sure. It

was just a lot. Sorry I can't remember the details.

Gail

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