Re: SOTA Silver Pluser and Hep C

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Electroherbalism+Traditional Chinese Medicine.

On 4/6/2011 12:50 AM, Yunno wrote:

> I was trying to find some info in the archives regarding Hep and

blood/zapping.

> Most of the posts I saw was old stuff from years ago regarding a Godzilla

zapper etc. Any new stuff since then, and anyone using the silver pluser with

any luck. I know the drill of virus in the cells and blood zapping does not go

there, however I am not looking for a cure so to speak just improvement till the

magic bullet comes out.

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Thanks , lots of information there , I am looking at.

> > I was trying to find some info in the archives regarding Hep and

blood/zapping.

> > Most of the posts I saw was old stuff from years ago regarding a Godzilla

zapper etc. Any new stuff since then, and anyone using the silver pluser with

any luck. I know the drill of virus in the cells and blood zapping does not go

there, however I am not looking for a cure so to speak just improvement till the

magic bullet comes out.

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can you tolerate the meds? there is a case on record at

of using both meds and godzilla dc device to get a

full remission in a month (record time). the rest of the reports showed dropped

viral load using dc, not a good drop using 4 hertz device. it soared back up

after stopping 3 weeks. I am not sure of what else can happen with hep-c but

there are 2 more cases of full remission using the drugs at the lowest possible

doses, plus the " new " colloidal silver called " silver sol " . It would seem to me

that silver sol plus the DC would make sense to try first, then add the drugs if

needed later to finish it off. Not a doc here, good luck

bG

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> I was trying to find some info in the archives regarding Hep and

blood/zapping.

> Most of the posts I saw was old stuff from years ago regarding a Godzilla

zapper etc. Any new stuff since then, and anyone using the silver pluser with

any luck. I know the drill of virus in the cells and blood zapping does not go

there, however I am not looking for a cure so to speak just improvement till the

magic bullet comes out.

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I haven't been checking in with the group lately. I suggest you watch/read the "Beck videos/papers" two or three times carefully. Use the original protocol as minimum requirements. I believe Hep was one of the most stubborn. I wish you success in your experiment. Sincerely, J.C From: baby_grand <b7494@...> Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 8:42:30 PMSubject: Re: SOTA Silver Pluser and Hep C

can you tolerate the meds? there is a case on record at of using both meds and godzilla dc device to get a full remission in a month (record time). the rest of the reports showed dropped viral load using dc, not a good drop using 4 hertz device. it soared back up after stopping 3 weeks. I am not sure of what else can happen with hep-c but there are 2 more cases of full remission using the drugs at the lowest possible doses, plus the "new" colloidal silver called "silver sol". It would seem to me that silver sol plus the DC would make sense to try first, then add the drugs if needed later to finish it off. Not a doc here, good luck

bG

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> I was trying to find some info in the archives regarding Hep and blood/zapping.

> Most of the posts I saw was old stuff from years ago regarding a Godzilla zapper etc. Any new stuff since then, and anyone using the silver pluser with any luck. I know the drill of virus in the cells and blood zapping does not go there, however I am not looking for a cure so to speak just improvement till the magic bullet comes out.

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Go to bobbeck.com and contact the webmaster...

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> I was trying to find some info in the archives regarding Hep and

blood/zapping.

> Most of the posts I saw was old stuff from years ago regarding a Godzilla

zapper etc. Any new stuff since then, and anyone using the silver pluser with

any luck. I know the drill of virus in the cells and blood zapping does not go

there, however I am not looking for a cure so to speak just improvement till the

magic bullet comes out.

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[Guest guest]

Russ, I too was hoping to find out how well your blood/zapping machines work against Hep C. I tried to phone your office for some insight, but I could tell the person on the phone was being very reserved in her answers and was left with nothing. Can you please tell me if you know any first hand people that have used your products and what kind of results they have had? Thanks From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 09:23 Subject: Re: SOTA Silver Pluser and Hep C Go to bobbeck.com and contact the webmaster...>> I was trying to find some info in the archives regarding Hep and blood/zapping. > Most of the posts I saw was old stuff from years ago regarding a Godzilla zapper etc. Any new stuff since then, and anyone using the silver pluser with any luck. I know the drill of virus in the cells and blood zapping does not go there, however I am not looking for a cure so to speak just improvement till the magic bullet comes out.> > >

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They are following the law, they can't give out medical info, testimonials,

nothing. They'd love to but they cannot.

So we are left with volunteers trying it and reporting. I assume you are one

such volunteer, willing to buy and try, and report? Probably not, you want

someone else to go first. So there you are.

you can visit group and dig in the group files menu,

and find about 12 reports of people using both the SOTA or beck-type devices and

the plain old DC devices. No one got over Hep-c except one fellow who took both

the meds and the dc device, and got full remission in 30 days.

It does not mean that the SOTA or other devices cannot work...these folks all

were not cooperative with any of my instructions, and they insisted on their own

methods, which did not make scientific sense to me at all...one would not do

multiple sessions, insisting on one long session a day, as Beck says, when he

should have done two shorter ones to interrupt the virus replication cycles,

etc...I got tired of working with them.

bG

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> > I was trying to find some info in the archives regarding Hep and

> blood/zapping.

> > Most of the posts I saw was old stuff from years ago regarding a Godzilla

> zapper etc. Any new stuff since then, and anyone using the silver pluser

> with any luck. I know the drill of virus in the cells and blood zapping does

> not go there, however I am not looking for a cure so to speak just

> improvement till the magic bullet comes out.

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Unfortunately none of here at SOTA can answer medical questions - including

myself.

Please consider going to www.bobbeck.com and contact the webmaster.

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> > I was trying to find some info in the archives regarding Hep and

> blood/zapping.

> > Most of the posts I saw was old stuff from years ago regarding a Godzilla

> zapper etc. Any new stuff since then, and anyone using the silver pluser

> with any luck. I know the drill of virus in the cells and blood zapping does

> not go there, however I am not looking for a cure so to speak just

> improvement till the magic bullet comes out.

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[Guest guest]

Russ,I was looking for firsthand knowledge, not medical advice. I would think there would be a difference.I really don’t know how it all works with what can or cannot be said and who truly regulates what is being said. But I can tell you from an outsider looking for some advise and knowledge, answers like the ones I get a lot seem to shed light on this being a sham or scam, even though I know in my heart it is not. I would say that people need to take a stand on what they believe and know to be the truth. It seems that what God said, ‘For the truth shall set you free’, only applies to people not selling stuff? Personally if I knew first hand that something worked or didn’t work, I would be the first one screaming on my roof top shouting it out. Even the person that was told by Jesus not to tell anyone that he healed him, could not contain himself NOT to tell people. Did God strike this man dead? I don’t think so. So what would be nice is since you sell this machine or people selling things, set up a wordpress site like www.testimonies.wordpress.com for FREE and have your clients or customers give their feedback and response of what they experienced so that people can see and judge for themselves to make a decision if they would like to try certain paths in their attempts to find alternative treatments, etc.I hope I’m not coming across as an ass on this issue, however, the only place to find things out is groups like these, which are far and in-between. Had I not known someone that stumbled on this group, I would have never had known about it. Which is a sad thing for people looking for answers out there.You knew Beck personally if I recall. What advice would he be telling you on this subject? It would be good enough to take and work off his design to make money off of, but yet not believe in his stand on withholding information? Beck was an open book and didn’t give a hoot who was talking bad about him or what the government said.Love to hear your take on this since it is not medical advice.Frustrated Sufferer! PS I did go to the bobbeck.com site and requested some info. Thanks for that! And I really am a nice guy! Lol From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 13:07 Subject: Re: SOTA Silver Pluser and Hep C Hi ,Unfortunately none of here at SOTA can answer medical questions - including myself.Please consider going to www.bobbeck.com and contact the webmaster.> >> > I was trying to find some info in the archives regarding Hep and> blood/zapping. > > Most of the posts I saw was old stuff from years ago regarding a Godzilla> zapper etc. Any new stuff since then, and anyone using the silver pluser> with any luck. I know the drill of virus in the cells and blood zapping does> not go there, however I am not looking for a cure so to speak just> improvement till the magic bullet comes out.> > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

From another " frustrated sufferer " , I could not agree with you more on this

subject! I own all of the Sota devices and have been using the Beck protocol

mostly on " faith " because of the lack of information. While I understand the

concerns that Russ has, it is possible to at set up an independent

not-for-profit type of website that is not associated with Sota where this

information can be disseminated. What does Sota do with those customer

submissions that it takes on its website? Seems to me that these could published

somewhere. Maybe that's what the bobbeck.com website is going to eventually be?

I also have to Sota LightWorks unit. There's even less information about how to

use that device to treat specifics issues. There are many colors and frequencies

to choose from and absolutely no guidance on how to use it. I don't feel that

I'm receiving the maximum potential from it because there very little

information.

Bottom line is that Sota needs to find a way to disseminate its vast accumulated

knowledge so that people can get the maximum benefit from the products that it

sells!

Russ has spent a lot of time researching and developing these products and has

accumulated a wealth of knowledge on how use them properly, but feels that he

can not part with any of that knowledge. He knows a lot more than he feels that

he can say. The easy solution is to part with this knowledge so some independent

third party who would be able to talk or write a book about it without

mentioning Sota or Russ.

I'm really a nice guy too, but just frustrated :-)

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> Russ,

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> I was looking for firsthand knowledge, not medical advice. I would think

> there would be a difference.

>

> I really don't know how it all works with what can or cannot be said and who

> truly regulates what is being said. But I can tell you from an outsider

> looking for some advise and knowledge, answers like the ones I get a lot

> seem to shed light on this being a sham or scam, even though I know in my

> heart it is not.

>

> I would say that people need to take a stand on what they believe and know

> to be the truth. It seems that what God said, 'For the truth shall set you

> free', only applies to people not selling stuff? Personally if I knew first

> hand that something worked or didn't work, I would be the first one

> screaming on my roof top shouting it out.

>

> Even the person that was told by Jesus not to tell anyone that he healed

> him, could not contain himself NOT to tell people. Did God strike this man

> dead? I don't think so.

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> So what would be nice is since you sell this machine or people selling

> things, set up a wordpress site like www.testimonies.wordpress.com for FREE

> and have your clients or customers give their feedback and response of what

> they experienced so that people can see and judge for themselves to make a

> decision if they would like to try certain paths in their attempts to find

> alternative treatments, etc.

>

> I hope I'm not coming across as an ass on this issue, however, the only

> place to find things out is groups like these, which are far and in-between.

> Had I not known someone that stumbled on this group, I would have never had

> known about it. Which is a sad thing for people looking for answers out

> there.

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> You knew Beck personally if I recall. What advice would he be telling you on

> this subject? It would be good enough to take and work off his design to

> make money off of, but yet not believe in his stand on withholding

> information? Beck was an open book and didn't give a hoot who was talking

> bad about him or what the government said.

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> Love to hear your take on this since it is not medical advice.

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> Frustrated Sufferer!

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> PS I did go to the bobbeck.com site and requested some info. Thanks for

> that! And I really am a nice guy! Lol

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My hands are tied. If I could share more info, don't you think I would? From

just a sales point of view, I could do so much better. We used to have customer

testimonials on our website. Our government sent us a letter " demading " us to

close our business due to the use of testimonials on our website! Furthermore,

we were also charged with having a link to another website that talked about the

health benefits of the Beck technology. A simple link almost cost us our

business.

The truth shall set your free, you say? Sure, that might be true however it is

not that we have an issue with the truth...we have an issue with sharing the

truth! Ask yourself why there are not more manufacturers of the Beck equipment.

Many have tried...many have been hamstrung by the restrictions or the real fear

of even going to jail.

Forrest spent almost two years in jail. Jim Folsum is currently serving

a 52 month sentenece. The threat of jail time is REAL!

You ask what would Bob Beck do? He would ask me to do what I can to continue to

allow this technology to exist. Even Bob faced federal agents when he tried to

get hos Brain Tuner FDA approved.

We have battled 6 governments, and have come out successful in each case. Why?

For one, we agreed to be classified as a Consumer Product. We had medical class

licencing, but voluntarily gave it up. Being classified as a Consumer Product

means we share NO health related information and we do not share testimonials.

We also do NOT answer any health related questions.

You cannot have it both ways. Either we stay classified as a Consumer Product

and share sparse/restricted information...or we shutdown the business.

I understand your frustrations. You might imagine mine. I want to share and

cannot. You want information - you DEMAND it - and yet the government says you

are not responsible enough to have access to this innformation. Why? Because

they say it wil mislead you and deceive you. Why? Because they see testimonials

as anecdotal information and they say anecdotal information has no scientifc

basis. You do not even have the RIGHT to access this information and make up

your own mind whether it is misleading or not.

It is like going to a library and not being allowed access to certain isles

because the librarian is acting on your behalf and the librarian feels that you

are not intelligent enough to make your own decisions.

So, there it is. I hope this helps.

Blessings,

Russ

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> > > I was trying to find some info in the archives regarding Hep and

> > blood/zapping.

> > > Most of the posts I saw was old stuff from years ago regarding a

> Godzilla

> > zapper etc. Any new stuff since then, and anyone using the silver pluser

> > with any luck. I know the drill of virus in the cells and blood zapping

> does

> > not go there, however I am not looking for a cure so to speak just

> > improvement till the magic bullet comes out.

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[Guest guest]

, I think you speak for most of us. I could not have said it better. You

put into words what I and many on this and other groups (ozone, chelation,

Dougplus, and others)have felt. It is hard to get good scientific facts. Of

course I understand there are no double blind studies testing and there are too

too many variables in what works for one or another.

Thats all for now.

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> > > I was trying to find some info in the archives regarding Hep and

> > blood/zapping.

> > > Most of the posts I saw was old stuff from years ago regarding a

> Godzilla

> > zapper etc. Any new stuff since then, and anyone using the silver pluser

> > with any luck. I know the drill of virus in the cells and blood zapping

> does

> > not go there, however I am not looking for a cure so to speak just

> > improvement till the magic bullet comes out.

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[Guest guest]

my advice to some of you having problems finding information on the machines you are using is to use a different search engine. google is part of mass media and is goverened as well as many more like . there are several search engines out there just try to find one that isnt moderated.

From: sgboss_2000 <sgboss_2000@...>Subject: Re: SOTA Silver Pluser and Hep C Date: Thursday, April 7, 2011, 3:25 PM

From another "frustrated sufferer", I could not agree with you more on this subject! I own all of the Sota devices and have been using the Beck protocol mostly on "faith" because of the lack of information. While I understand the concerns that Russ has, it is possible to at set up an independent not-for-profit type of website that is not associated with Sota where this information can be disseminated. What does Sota do with those customer submissions that it takes on its website? Seems to me that these could published somewhere. Maybe that's what the bobbeck.com website is going to eventually be?I also have to Sota LightWorks unit. There's even less information about how to use that device to treat specifics issues. There are many colors and frequencies to choose from and absolutely no guidance on how to use it. I don't feel that I'm receiving the maximum potential from it because there very little information.Bottom line is

that Sota needs to find a way to disseminate its vast accumulated knowledge so that people can get the maximum benefit from the products that it sells!Russ has spent a lot of time researching and developing these products and has accumulated a wealth of knowledge on how use them properly, but feels that he can not part with any of that knowledge. He knows a lot more than he feels that he can say. The easy solution is to part with this knowledge so some independent third party who would be able to talk or write a book about it without mentioning Sota or Russ.I'm really a nice guy too, but just frustrated :-)>> Russ,>

> I was looking for firsthand knowledge, not medical advice. I would think> there would be a difference.> > I really don't know how it all works with what can or cannot be said and who> truly regulates what is being said. But I can tell you from an outsider> looking for some advise and knowledge, answers like the ones I get a lot> seem to shed light on this being a sham or scam, even though I know in my> heart it is not. > > I would say that people need to take a stand on what they believe and know> to be the truth. It seems that what God said, 'For the truth shall set you> free', only applies to people not selling stuff? Personally if I knew first> hand that something worked or didn't work, I would be the first one> screaming on my roof top shouting it out. > > Even the person that was told by Jesus not to tell anyone that he healed>

him, could not contain himself NOT to tell people. Did God strike this man> dead? I don't think so. > > So what would be nice is since you sell this machine or people selling> things, set up a wordpress site like www.testimonies.wordpress.com for FREE> and have your clients or customers give their feedback and response of what> they experienced so that people can see and judge for themselves to make a> decision if they would like to try certain paths in their attempts to find> alternative treatments, etc.> > I hope I'm not coming across as an ass on this issue, however, the only> place to find things out is groups like these, which are far and in-between.> Had I not known someone that stumbled on this group, I would have never had> known about it. Which is a sad thing for people looking for answers out> there.> > You knew Beck personally if I

recall. What advice would he be telling you on> this subject? It would be good enough to take and work off his design to> make money off of, but yet not believe in his stand on withholding> information? Beck was an open book and didn't give a hoot who was talking> bad about him or what the government said.> > Love to hear your take on this since it is not medical advice.> > Frustrated Sufferer! > > > > PS I did go to the bobbeck.com site and requested some info. Thanks for> that! And I really am a nice guy! Lol