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Hi Olga,

Here's one of the articles I was referring to when I said that I had

read that inflammation wasn't a part of CFIDS:

http://python.8m.com/patientfibro.html

It's actually an article about Fibromyalgia. Now here's the tricky

part: Cfids and Fibro are often considered the same dd. I have both

and think they go together even though most of my fibro sx didn't show

up until 10 years after I came down with Cfids.

I guess I would think that if they are seperate dds, fibro would be the

one with inflammation. I was surprised to read it wasn't. And yet, I

think it's possible my brain was inflammed with CFIDS (ME) especially

the first year when I was bed-ridden with it.

Tracey

lahra2000@... wrote:

> In a message dated 10/10/02 6:55:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> writes:

>

> << The latest research I've read

> says that inflammation is not happening in us, even though the >>

>

> Just want to throw out a few thoughts here. Many of us PWC's have

> other

> problems,arthritis, fibro., etc. I am not clear about what exactly is

> meant

> by " inflammation " . I know it is used to describe the very obvious

> type, like

> in rheumatoid arthritis, where the skin is reddened and the joints

> swollen.

> But I have been running across references to " inflammation " as the

> cause of

> aging, degenerative disease, etc.The kind of thing we are supposed to

> take

> anti-oxidants and proteolitic)sp? enzymes for. I guess this is

> inflammation

> at the cellular level? Any biochemists out there care to comment? I

> would

> welcome clarification.

> Olga

>

>

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Hi All,

if possible I think that it would be good to mention

research sources.

When one says that " the latest research says " , it gives the impression

that

that info is what everyone in the CFS / FM research field agrees on.

I don't believe that CFS / FM is one disease and that everyone

reacts differently and is different. I don't see how anyone could make

a general statement about it without extensive research and good

statistics.

I happen to have inflammatory conditions that are related to the

severity

of my CFS. Just because I have inflammatory conditions does not mean

that everyone does. Continued study is necessary.

Mike

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  • 2 years later...

Thanks for all the info. It sure explains alot. , do you

know

of anything you can do to reduce the inflamation besides treatment?

> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to control the inflamation of

the

> liver. If seems to be giving my husband the most problems. He gets

a

> sharp pain and sometimes an ache in the right just under the rib

cage.

> Just wondering if there is anything out there to help bring the

> swelling down. Other then that his liver is in good shape. He is

trying

> to eat healther and has not had a drink since finding out.

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Inflammation can be due to fatty liver....which is very common with

alcohol use. Besides stopping the alcohol use, other things that

can help is gradual weight loss if he's obese, good nutrition, blood

sugar control if he's diabetic, and Milk Thistle which has been

proven to be anti-inflammatory. Make sure this is okay with your

doctor.

Silvia

> > Can anyone tell me if there is a way to control the inflamation

of

> the

> > liver. If seems to be giving my husband the most problems. He gets

> a

> > sharp pain and sometimes an ache in the right just under the rib

> cage.

> > Just wondering if there is anything out there to help bring the

> > swelling down. Other then that his liver is in good shape. He is

> trying

> > to eat healther and has not had a drink since finding out.

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  • 5 years later...

I have another question for all of you. Thanks so much for helping with such a

generous HEART!!

1.if I want to decrease inflamation in my body for example stomach, inflamatory

bowel syndrome, brain, while I use the magnetic, and electrification system. i

wonder if I can drink some green tea, or which other natural stuff do you think

will be good to reduce inflamation?

2.Can I take Lugol iodine at the same time with silver solucion.

thanks

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, nearly all cases of IBD have as either a cause or aggravating factor, a

large and incorrect bacterial flourish called dysbiosis. Inflammatory bowel

disease can be cured then by controlling the bowel bacteria that are causing it.

A low-carb diet with adequate inulin maintains a healthy bowel ecology, which on

its own reduces the inflammation-causing bacteria.

Conversely, a low inulin diet has been proposed as a requirement for bowel

dysbiosis, which in turn has been proposed as a " prerequisite " for IBD. Some of

the research is here:

http://tinyurl.com/inulins

In the rest of the body, glutathione increase and DHA are the primary

inflammation reducers. Glutathione is made in the cells from undenatured whey

and selenium, and DHA is from fish oil.

all good,

Duncan

>

>

> 1.if I want to decrease inflamation in my body for example stomach,

inflamatory bowel syndrome, iodine at the same time with silver solucion.

>

> thanks

>

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