Rv: Rv: Re: FW: Magical Mineral Supplement (MMS) Trojan Horse

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I'm curious as to how it created hemolytic anemia. Why wouldn't one just do

peroxide or ozone therapy?

all good,

Duncan

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> De: s Ludwig Kalcker <desdeandreas@...>

> Para: HUMBERTO ROJAS <hrojas1206@...>

> Enviado: viernes, 11 de marzo, 2011 8:00:03

> Asunto: Re: Rv: Re: FW: Magical Mineral

Supplement (MMS) Trojan Horse

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> Due to the electrochemical state of a (3 mol 117º) composition there is no

way to create trihalomethane,

> that is the reason why it is allowed since 100 years as disinfectant for

potable water.

> The non toxicity is more than proven with many doctoral thesis and scientific

Papers.

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> it decays to table salt, period.

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> saludos

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On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:15 PM, DuncanCrow <duncancrow@...> wrote:

 

I'm curious as to how it created hemolytic anemia. Why wouldn't one just do peroxide or ozone therapy?

all good,

DuncanThis is some info I'm sharing from the rainharvesting group. The bottom line is that stuff like MMS and even ozone " can " be dangerous, as they generally fall into the category of disinfectants; and what we are doing with stuff like ozone and even MMS is treating our water system within us.

The posts on ozone have had me puzzled and amused. Any disinfectant, in order to be effective as a disinfectant - IS TOXIC TO LIFE. That's what makes it a disinfectant, because it kills anything alive in the water. As a waste water and environmental water quality guy I really don't like

chlorine products because its hard to get out of the water stream once it is introduce and adversely impacts the environment - but its effective at protecting our water supply and it is the most effective (and inexpensive) persistent disinfectant we can use right now for a PWS

and until something better and cheaper comes along we are stuck with it. In the modern world many have largely forgotten the past and what the third world deals with on a daily bases with regard to clean drinking water - death from cholera and a variety of water borne diseases.

 

Ozone is a great disinfectant - when used properly and so is UV. Sunlight will disinfect as well in addition to chlorine products and good old sodium hypochlorite BUT all must be used properly and all have certain limitations and risks. One of the things I like about Ozone is that yes it is very toxic, so it will effectively decon a water stream and given the proper de-ozone process leaves the water stream with a GREAT by product - oxygen. One waste water plant I worked at used ozone and the effluent produced was trout stream quality - about as good as it

gets. I could go into the issues with all these different disinfectant methods but that's not my point. My point is a disinfectant, by its nature - is toxic. So when looking at water disinfection systems and methods choose one that you are comfortable with and are willing to properly use and maintain. Beats dying from dysentery any day.  

Ozone has indeed been used for many years to treat rivers, lakes and

streams that have fallen victim to increased biological and chemical

oxygen demand that can render them anaerobic. It helps add the needed

oxygen as it also destroys the cause of the problem. The process is

very different from residential systems that do not release ozone gas

into the air as this would be dangerous.

Older ozone treatment systems (and large-scale industrial systems today)

created ozone gas and diffused it into a contact chamber or tank that

had a ozone distructor on the vent to prevent excess gas from getting

out. The treated water then passed through either Granulated Activated

Carbon (GAC) or a UV chamber (UV can both make ozone or destroy it,

depending on the wavelength) to remove any residual that could be

present.

Modern equipment, that is intended to be used in a home, is different in

that the ozone is diffused directly into the water only when the water

is running and is removed along with any oxidized elements present in

the water by a GAC post filter so no ozone is present in the air or

water that is exposed to humans. Babies, even inquisitive adults, could

not be exposed to the active ozone even if they attempted to overcome

the safety devices present on the unit.

A brief and useful document is available on the EPA website at:

http://www.nesc.wvu.edu/ndwc/pdf/ot/tb/tb1_disinfection.pdf

<http://www.nesc.wvu.edu/ndwc/pdf/ot/tb/tb1_disinfection.pdf>

If you haven't already been alerted, disinfection is not child's play.

Whether using iodine, chlorine, ozone or UV there are dangers and

drawbacks that should be considered by trained personnel.

Fortunately, newer technology is becoming available such as nanoalumina

filtration and photodisinfection by high intensity LED light that

promise to be safer and use less energy than current systems.

Older methods, such as the Berkey gravity filter unit that was mentioned

earlier, are easy to use, inexpensive and available now.

Other sources of accurate consumer information include: The National

Drinking Water Clearinghouse, the American Waterworks Association and

the National Sanitation Foundation