Re: rent to own

[Guest guest]

"Rife" technology is fine in theory but terrible in practice. Here's why:1. True Rife technology is lost although some have gotten some old machines towork. We are left with more questions than answers because Royal Rifepurposely didn't make public exactly what he did to cure cancer andthe other diseases on his short frequency list.2. Modern "Rife" machines are almost never like the original machines. Even if you only use the original 10 Rife frequencies you still are missing the mark by not applying the

frequencies in the same effective way that Rife did. A frequency does nothing if not applied in the right way by the right machine (such as the original Rife machine).3. The "Rife" frequency list has hundreds of frequencies, 99% of whichwere not from Rife. Where did they come from? Over the years anyself-named "researcher" could add a frequency for a disease, however true oruntrue it was. There was absolutely no quality control at all.4. I used to sell Rife machines but stopped because the success rate ofmy customers was very low.5. Why try to pinpoint a specific frequency for each of thousands ofmicrobes when Beck has given us a surefire scattergun method thatkills or immobilizes all of them? "Rife" technology is outdated andhas been superseded.

Since Beck machines target just the blood then for localized infections you need equipment that outputs even more electric current at either AC or DC (which is more effective in this case).Mr "rent to own" maybe you didn't notice that this group is not about electromedicine in general but is specifically about Beck technology. Please go scam some other group with your overpriced ineffective devices. Man, I wish I had a dime for every person that emailed me saying their $3000 Rife device just sits in the closet because it didn't work on their ailment. I hate that people scam the sick.

[Guest guest]

I think Beck made the remark that the Rife machine never worked. As I recall he

seemed to be talking from his experience owning one or more for his own

research.

The limitation of the Beck type assault on a germ is the amount of current you

have to pass through the germ. To do it, a steady amount over several minutes

or hours without interruptions. a powerful magnetic pulse would have to repeat

thousands of times per second to pile up enough total charge you get with a

plain battery in a good conductive area of the body, like the mouth. Total

charge is intensity times time, and it determines the kill rate. The way the

body is constructed it is hard to reach very far inside with a surface

electrode, past fat layers and so forth. I am talking with an electrical

engineer about bending a field of DC current using external magnets to explore

if in any way a stream of charge can be directed by deflection any deeper than

normal. No data on it yet.

bG

bG

bG

>

> " Rife " technology is fine in theory but terrible in practice. Here's why:1.

True Rife technology is lost although some have gotten some old machines to

> work. We are left with more questions than answers because Royal Rife

> purposely didn't make public exactly what he did to cure cancer and

> the other diseases on his short frequency list.

> 2. Modern " Rife " machines are almost never like the original machines. Even if

you only use the original 10 Rife frequencies you still are missing the mark by

not applying the frequencies in the same effective way that Rife did. A

frequency does nothing if not applied in the right way by the right machine

(such as the original Rife machine).3. The " Rife " frequency list has hundreds of

frequencies, 99% of which

> were not from Rife. Where did they come from? Over the years any

> self-named " researcher " could add a frequency for a disease, however true or

> untrue it was. There was absolutely no quality control at all.4. I used to

sell Rife machines but stopped because the success rate of

> my customers was very low.5. Why try to pinpoint a specific frequency for each

of thousands of

> microbes when Beck has given us a surefire scattergun method that

> kills or immobilizes all of them? " Rife " technology is outdated and

> has been superseded. Since Beck machines target just the blood then for

localized infections you need equipment that outputs even more electric current

at either AC or DC (which is more effective in this case).

> Mr " rent to own " maybe you didn't notice that this group is not about

electromedicine in general but is specifically about Beck technology. Please go

scam some other group with your overpriced ineffective devices. Man, I wish I

had a dime for every person that emailed me saying their $3000 Rife device just

sits in the closet because it didn't work on their ailment. I hate that people

scam the sick.

>

[Guest guest]

Okay then...God bless us all...my machine gives me a good buzz.

Aloha,

From: Forrest <a57ngel@...> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 3:15 PMSubject: Re: rent to own

"Rife" technology is fine in theory but terrible in practice. Here's why:

1. True Rife technology is lost although some have gotten some old machines towork. We are left with more questions than answers because Royal Rifepurposely didn't make public exactly what he did to cure cancer andthe other diseases on his short frequency list.

2. Modern "Rife" machines are almost never like the original machines. Even if you only use the original 10 Rife frequencies you still are missing the mark by not applying the frequencies in the same effective way that Rife did. A frequency does nothing if not applied in the right way by the right machine (such as the original Rife machine).

3. The "Rife" frequency list has hundreds of frequencies, 99% of whichwere not from Rife. Where did they come from? Over the years anyself-named "researcher" could add a frequency for a disease, however true oruntrue it was. There was absolutely no quality control at all.

4. I used to sell Rife machines but stopped because the success rate ofmy customers was very low.

5. Why try to pinpoint a specific frequency for each of thousands ofmicrobes when Beck has given us a surefire scattergun method thatkills or immobilizes all of them? "Rife" technology is outdated andhas been superseded. Since Beck machines target just the blood then for localized infections you need equipment that outputs even more electric current at either AC or DC (which is more effective in this case).

Mr "rent to own" maybe you didn't notice that this group is not about electromedicine in general but is specifically about Beck technology. Please go scam some other group with your overpriced ineffective devices.

Man, I wish I had a dime for every person that emailed me saying their $3000 Rife device just sits in the closet because it didn't work on their ailment.

I hate that people scam the sick.

[Guest guest]

, Very interesting. I am sure this statement comes a disappointment to a whole lot of people. Could you elaborate further on your statement about the effectiveness of the Beck approach? I am really intrigued by the whole subject and I am sure I am not alone.

Thanks

From: Forrest

Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:15 PM

Subject: Re: rent to own

"Rife" technology is fine in theory but terrible in practice. Here's why:

1. True Rife technology is lost although some have gotten some old machines towork. We are left with more questions than answers because Royal Rifepurposely didn't make public exactly what he did to cure cancer andthe other diseases on his short frequency list.

2. Modern "Rife" machines are almost never like the original machines. Even if you only use the original 10 Rife frequencies you still are missing the mark by not applying the frequencies in the same effective way that Rife did. A frequency does nothing if not applied in the right way by the right machine (such as the original Rife machine).

3. The "Rife" frequency list has hundreds of frequencies, 99% of whichwere not from Rife. Where did they come from? Over the years anyself-named "researcher" could add a frequency for a disease, however true oruntrue it was. There was absolutely no quality control at all.

4. I used to sell Rife machines but stopped because the success rate ofmy customers was very low.

5. Why try to pinpoint a specific frequency for each of thousands ofmicrobes when Beck has given us a surefire scattergun method thatkills or immobilizes all of them? "Rife" technology is outdated andhas been superseded. Since Beck machines target just the blood then for localized infections you need equipment that outputs even more electric current at either AC or DC (which is more effective in this case).

Mr "rent to own" maybe you didn't notice that this group is not about electromedicine in general but is specifically about Beck technology. Please go scam some other group with your overpriced ineffective devices.

Man, I wish I had a dime for every person that emailed me saying their $3000 Rife device just sits in the closet because it didn't work on their ailment.

I hate that people scam the sick.

[Guest guest]

First of all, how dare you make judgement on me? I have been living with

Chronic Lyme Pain for over 12 years and if I found something that actually

helped relieved MY daily pain that I suffer that had been treating by Big Pharma

(who in MY opinion are THE REAL SCAMMERS), then who are YOU to make judgement on

others in the manner you did???

If you had taken the time to educate yourself about this particular new machine,

your theories would show your ignorance. I wrote 1 million frequencies, not

10!!! The machine is also is not used alone but with other proven homeopathic

remedies and there are many testimonials by real people (not scammers )

that prove it can work.

People like you use words to scare others from something that could help them!

Are you sure YOU'RE not working for the FDA??? Sure sounds it!

If anyone is interested in someone that is not a scammer and has found a

different method to treat pain for herself that is NOT putting money in the

pharm companies, you know how to reach me.

Shame on you for coming down on me like that when I'm only trying to help myself

and others!! Freedom of speech . I don't think Hitler lives amongst us

anymore.

Believe what you want! Your kinds always does. I do see you make mention you

are profiting from selling your own " cure " .

Hope many of you find a way to help yourself other than listening to THIS

scammer. I understand the physical and emotional suffering by my own

experience, and whatever solution those of you may have found or are looking

for, I certainly hope this group continues to allow discussions in a mature and

professional manner.

I hate people that judge others - pretty strong words aren't they?

Not The Scammer Implied

Ilene

>

> " Rife " technology is fine in theory but terrible in practice. Here's why:1.

True Rife technology is lost although some have gotten some old machines to

> work. We are left with more questions than answers because Royal Rife

> purposely didn't make public exactly what he did to cure cancer and

> the other diseases on his short frequency list.

> 2. Modern " Rife " machines are almost never like the original machines. Even if

you only use the original 10 Rife frequencies you still are missing the mark by

not applying the frequencies in the same effective way that Rife did. A

frequency does nothing if not applied in the right way by the right machine

(such as the original Rife machine).3. The " Rife " frequency list has hundreds of

frequencies, 99% of which

> were not from Rife. Where did they come from? Over the years any

> self-named " researcher " could add a frequency for a disease, however true or

> untrue it was. There was absolutely no quality control at all.4. I used to

sell Rife machines but stopped because the success rate of

> my customers was very low.5. Why try to pinpoint a specific frequency for each

of thousands of

> microbes when Beck has given us a surefire scattergun method that

> kills or immobilizes all of them? " Rife " technology is outdated and

> has been superseded. Since Beck machines target just the blood then for

localized infections you need equipment that outputs even more electric current

at either AC or DC (which is more effective in this case).

> Mr " rent to own " maybe you didn't notice that this group is not about

electromedicine in general but is specifically about Beck technology. Please go

scam some other group with your overpriced ineffective devices. Man, I wish I

had a dime for every person that emailed me saying their $3000 Rife device just

sits in the closet because it didn't work on their ailment. I hate that people

scam the sick.

>

[Guest guest]

I've been using a zapper ever since Dr. 's book came out. I have made more than a dozen for friends and relatives with success stories from them all. I know they work and all the stories about why they don't goes in my "El Toro Poo' file. We all know that what works for one might not work for someone else. If it works for you then enough said!!!From: baby_grand <b7494@...>To:

Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:32 PMSubject: Re: rent to own

I think Beck made the remark that the Rife machine never worked. As I recall he seemed to be talking from his experience owning one or more for his own research.

The limitation of the Beck type assault on a germ is the amount of current you have to pass through the germ. To do it, a steady amount over several minutes or hours without interruptions. a powerful magnetic pulse would have to repeat thousands of times per second to pile up enough total charge you get with a plain battery in a good conductive area of the body, like the mouth. Total charge is intensity times time, and it determines the kill rate. The way the body is constructed it is hard to reach very far inside with a surface electrode, past fat layers and so forth. I am talking with an electrical engineer about bending a field of DC current using external magnets to explore if in any way a stream of charge can be directed by deflection any deeper than normal. No data on it yet.

bG

bG

bG

>

> "Rife" technology is fine in theory but terrible in practice. Here's why:1. True Rife technology is lost although some have gotten some old machines to

> work. We are left with more questions than answers because Royal Rife

> purposely didn't make public exactly what he did to cure cancer and

> the other diseases on his short frequency list.

> 2. Modern "Rife" machines are almost never like the original machines. Even if you only use the original 10 Rife frequencies you still are missing the mark by not applying the frequencies in the same effective way that Rife did. A frequency does nothing if not applied in the right way by the right machine (such as the original Rife machine).3. The "Rife" frequency list has hundreds of frequencies, 99% of which

> were not from Rife. Where did they come from? Over the years any

> self-named "researcher" could add a frequency for a disease, however true or

> untrue it was. There was absolutely no quality control at all.4. I used to sell Rife machines but stopped because the success rate of

> my customers was very low.5. Why try to pinpoint a specific frequency for each of thousands of

> microbes when Beck has given us a surefire scattergun method that

> kills or immobilizes all of them? "Rife" technology is outdated and

> has been superseded. Since Beck machines target just the blood then for localized infections you need equipment that outputs even more electric current at either AC or DC (which is more effective in this case).

> Mr "rent to own" maybe you didn't notice that this group is not about electromedicine in general but is specifically about Beck technology. Please go scam some other group with your overpriced ineffective devices. Man, I wish I had a dime for every person that emailed me saying their $3000 Rife device just sits in the closet because it didn't work on their ailment. I hate that people scam the sick.

>

[Guest guest]

Basically the Beck approach is many times more effective than the false Rife imitation devices. And blood electrifiers, if they can output up to 5 milliamps of current, can be used with large (3" square or larger) cloth pad electrodes to treat infections in areas of the body (such as a throat infection). If Rife devices ever help anything it is because of the generic electrical stimulus effect they have on the immune system, not because of specific frequencies. The only exception to that is the use of 464hz against candida. So I can't say that Rife devices are totally useless but for the amount of money it takes to buy one, in relation to their usefullness, it is a sad situation.>, Very interesting. I am sure this statement comes a

disappointment to a whole lot of people. Could you elaborate further on your statement about the effectiveness of the Beck approach? I am really intrigued by the whole subject and I am sure I am not alone.

[Guest guest]

I like that got people using electricity and overcame their fear of it.

That some get relief or other good results is probably why it continues. I used

it with her hand held electrodes for sinuses and found it worked when applied

and stopped working when the current went off. So in my case it eased pain in

nerves, pulsed DC being a natural anesthetic. That could sell a zapper, but I

don't think it will work every time, and the problem is, that is what it has to

do in some situations, those where time is not on your side.

I also do not think Beck's will, either. If you have the time, I don't see a

real downside to trying either thing as written by the authors. You have the

cost of books, devices, but it's pretty cheap, usually under 1000 for your

experiment.

My sinuses finally did get cured by applying dc current in fairly high doses to

the sinuses themselves, killing off the bacteria inside. Simple. No protocol.

No book signed by the author. Just a rational placement of electrodes, not on

the hands or wrists, not in the air around the body, directly on the germ area

in the sinuses, using a reasonable amount of dc current. It is even easier to

test than other methods. All of it is an experiment, be honest.

bG

> >

> > " Rife " technology is fine in theory but terrible in practice. Here's why:1.

True Rife technology is lost although some have gotten some old machines to

> > work. We are left with more questions than answers because Royal Rife

> > purposely didn't make public exactly what he did to cure cancer and

> > the other diseases on his short frequency list.

> > 2. Modern " Rife " machines are almost never like the original machines. Even

if you only use the original 10 Rife frequencies you still are missing the mark

by not applying the frequencies in the same effective way that Rife did. A

frequency does nothing if not applied in the right way by the right machine

(such as the original Rife machine).3. The " Rife " frequency list has hundreds of

frequencies, 99% of which

> > were not from Rife. Where did they come from? Over the years any

> > self-named " researcher " could add a frequency for a disease, however true or

> > untrue it was. There was absolutely no quality control at all.4. I used to

sell Rife machines but stopped because the success rate of

> > my customers was very low.5. Why try to pinpoint a specific frequency for

each of thousands of

> > microbes when Beck has given us a surefire scattergun method that

> > kills or immobilizes all of them? " Rife " technology is outdated and

> > has been superseded. Since Beck machines target just the blood then for

localized infections you need equipment that outputs even more electric current

at either AC or DC (which is more effective in this case).

> > Mr " rent to own " maybe you didn't notice that this group is not about

electromedicine in general but is specifically about Beck technology. Please go

scam some other group with your overpriced ineffective devices. Man, I wish I

had a dime for every person that emailed me saying their $3000 Rife device just

sits in the closet because it didn't work on their ailment. I hate that people

scam the sick.

> >

>