Update

September 30, 2009

Hi Louise, 'hugs' Hope all goes as planned. > Subject: Update> > Hello everyone, its been ages since I have written, but we have been without a computer, till now. and I have had a lot on my plate.> > Latest news ragarding my bone cancer, which is the same as my head and neck, expleamorfic, which is very rare, am told. I will let you know how I get on, I truelly believe armour is helping me, to keep well. all my Love Louise.xxx> > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

September 30, 2009

Hello Louise - I am not pleased about your problem with the bone

cancer, but I am pleased that at last, you are going to get something done

about this. I will pray that the results will come back clear and that the

cancer will be blasted completely, This must be such a worry for you all. I

hope to goodness that Armour is helping you. Keep us informed along the way and

let us know each step you take.

God bless and big (((HUGS)))

Luv - Sheila xxx

Latest news ragarding my bone cancer, which is the same as my head and neck,

expleamorfic, which is very rare, am told. So am going for a pet scan next

Monday, to make sure the cancer has not spread, to other cells, if this comes

back clear, Standmore will operate and remove my pelvic bone replace it with

metal, and blast the small bone frature in my right hip with micro waves. and

then hopefully the bone cancer, will all be removed, I am trying to stay

positive, and look ahead, but as the saying goes, am in foe a bumpy ride. I

will let you know how I get on, I truelly believe armour is helping me, to keep

well. all my Love Louise.xxx

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November 11, 2009

Oh my goodness, Sue!! You have so much on your plate. I will keep you and your Angel Nell in my prayers to the Creator.

Love & Hugs

Cyn Boyd

Blue Lark Sakima

Iowa

-- update

Everyone,

I have been meaning to update everyone with what has been going on with me and around me but by the end of the day I just do not have the energy to write it all down. touched on it a bit today with her email she sent to the group.

It has taken me forever to recover from my surgery. Much longer than I thought. Still a lot of pain. I notice that the last couple days the right side looks red and inflamed around the lower incision and a tear that was healing looks like it is opening again. Exhaustion has been a problem. I am completely off the Ativan. I was sleeping fine but with the stress of late I am not sleeping at all. I fall asleep around 4 or 5 and never sleep very deeply. My Naturopathic doctor is now gone and I have not been to the new one yet. I feel a bit shy. Nell is going to need to go soon though.

Since just before my surgery my daughter Nell hit a crisis. For those of you who don't know about her she has a serious Anxiety Disorder, OCD, phobias, Avoidance Personality Disorder, she is school Phobic among other things. She is also brilliant, funny, very gifted, beautiful and suffering. Not getting into the legal battle that we have been in with our terrible school system that has violated her civil rights, a program we agreed to try (Jeff and I were very doubtful) to help to reintegrate her into school (for the sake of not be the obstructing parents) failed Nell miserably. She could not take another failure nor more people failing her. So here we are the same place as last year only she is in worse shape. She said to me " I think some people are born to kill themselves. I think I am one of those people. Maybe my purpose is when I die the people who have not listened will listen to the next person who needs them." I have had her seeing her therapist twice a week and I made a call to her legal team and her educational consultant and said " She is going to New Haven. I wanted her to go a year ago now it is non negotiable."

So on December 7th Nell will be leaving for this wonderful therapeutic boarding school in Utah. She is scared but relieved to be going. I am relieved and scared too. She is a 24/7 job right now. She is up and down. Clings to me, cries, is fine even had a violent episode ( the first in a very long time). I am exhausted. I use up all my reserves helping her, taking her places ( her therapist want her out of the house a lot), counseling, worrying, dealing with my own anxiety/panic and using all my DBT skills I posses. It has been a long 15 years. For her and for me. I am very proud of how brave she is and how she is taking this on.

Jeff and I are going to have to fly out to Utah every other month for family therapy weekends. Starting January. Leave Wednesday. Then work Thursday 9-5, Friday 9-5 and Saturday 9-1. We return home on Sunday. We have figured out it is going to cost 2,000 a trip. How we are going to pay for this I have no idea. Of course when we sue the school for the cost of the school this will be added but until then we have to pay this along with a house sitter for all the animals. That is 12,000 dollars a year. Just on travel. Never mind just wanting to go for things like her birthday and other special events. I have been so worried and upset. I cried at Mondays IEP. Albeit quietly. I have never done that before.

Sorry so long. I have tried to keep it a short as possible and explain.

Thanks all for reading.

hugs,

Sue

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Hi Sue,

I am so sorry for all you are going through. i wish I had the magic answers and the right words that owuld make you feel instantly better, but I know that is not possible. you are an amazing woman and a fantastic mother. I pray that you will have all the strength you need , as well Nell, for this new endeavor. I also pray for the healing of your body.

Many hugs and wishes for better days.

G

From: Urbanczyk <featherednst@...>Subject: update Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 11:12 PM

Everyone,

I have been meaning to update everyone with what has been going on with me and around me but by the end of the day I just do not have the energy to write it all down. touched on it a bit today with her email she sent to the group.

It has taken me forever to recover from my surgery. Much longer than I thought. Still a lot of pain. I notice that the last couple days the right side looks red and inflamed around the lower incision and a tear that was healing looks like it is opening again. Exhaustion has been a problem. I am completely off the Ativan. I was sleeping fine but with the stress of late I am not sleeping at all. I fall asleep around 4 or 5 and never sleep very deeply. My Naturopathic doctor is now gone and I have not been to the new one yet. I feel a bit shy. Nell is going to need to go soon though.

Since just before my surgery my daughter Nell hit a crisis. For those of you who don't know about her she has a serious Anxiety Disorder, OCD, phobias, Avoidance Personality Disorder, she is school Phobic among other things. She is also brilliant, funny, very gifted, beautiful and suffering. Not getting into the legal battle that we have been in with our terrible school system that has violated her civil rights, a program we agreed to try (Jeff and I were very doubtful) to help to reintegrate her into school (for the sake of not be the obstructing parents) failed Nell miserably. She could not take another failure nor more people failing her. So here we are the same place as last year only she is in worse shape. She said to me " I think some people are born to kill themselves. I think I am one of those people. Maybe my purpose is when I die the people who have not listened will

listen to the next person who needs them." I have had her seeing her therapist twice a week and I made a call to her legal team and her educational consultant and said " She is going to New Haven. I wanted her to go a year ago now it is non negotiable."

So on December 7th Nell will be leaving for this wonderful therapeutic boarding school in Utah. She is scared but relieved to be going. I am relieved and scared too. She is a 24/7 job right now. She is up and down. Clings to me, cries, is fine even had a violent episode ( the first in a very long time). I am exhausted. I use up all my reserves helping her, taking her places ( her therapist want her out of the house a lot), counseling, worrying, dealing with my own anxiety/panic and using all my DBT skills I posses. It has been a long 15 years. For her and for me. I am very proud of how brave she is and how she is taking this on.

Jeff and I are going to have to fly out to Utah every other month for family therapy weekends. Starting January. Leave Wednesday. Then work Thursday 9-5, Friday 9-5 and Saturday 9-1. We return home on Sunday. We have figured out it is going to cost 2,000 a trip. How we are going to pay for this I have no idea. Of course when we sue the school for the cost of the school this will be added but until then we have to pay this along with a house sitter for all the animals. That is 12,000 dollars a year. Just on travel. Never mind just wanting to go for things like her birthday and other special events. I have been so worried and upset. I cried at Mondays IEP. Albeit quietly. I have never done that before.

Sorry so long. I have tried to keep it a short as possible and explain.

Thanks all for reading.

hugs,

Sue

December 24, 2009

Hi Tess, Poor you! As far as I understand it excess T3 is just part of the whole hyper thing and theoretically, if your T4 goes down then your T3 should eventually go down too. The propranalol should start to inhibit T4 to T3 conversion- it did for me,but I was hypo and it made me fell much worse. > Subject: Update> > Hi all,> > I got home from hospital on Saturday after another bout of Diverticulitis, its settled down now apart from thrush with> all the antibiotics.> Unfortunately I`ve also been told to stop the PTU and Thyroxine> Anyway bowel surgeon then got an endo from hospital I was in to have> a look at me and he said stop them right away.> I`m taking the magnesium every day (thanks Sheila)but still getting> palpitations,also have higher dose of Propanol now.> So thats all my news. feel like I`m in limbo now.> Hope everyone on here is doing ok.> > Love Tess> > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

January 15, 2010

DAMN THIS IS CORFUSING. i WANTED TO SAY THAT WE WIULL PRAY FOIR YOU/ TOOLATE TO

TYPE OR SPELL CORRECTLY. MY FRIEND ALSO HAS TO HAVE INTESTINAL SURG AMONG OTHER

THINGS NEXT THURDAY. HOPEFULLY ALL WILL GO WELL X 2!!

kAREN/LA 1

> From: davidbrecker@... <davidbrecker@...>

> Subject: Update

> " " < >,

" fibromyalgia-crochet " <fibromyalgia-crochet >

> Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 1:19 AM

>

> Â

>

> My grandson and I leave Wednesday and the surgery is

> Thursday I'll write more later. This is the one that is

> having intestinal surgery. He is begging me to crochet a cat

> or something to take in to surgery room with him.

>

> Sent from my iPod

>

January 15, 2010

Oh shelley, I wish the best for your grandson and of course you. Please let us know how everything goes ok? Wish you all the best. /FLLoving hugs, R/FLFrom: "davidbrecker@..." <davidbrecker@...>Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:19:36 -0800 (PST) < >; fibromyalgia-crochet <fibromyalgia-crochet >Subject: Update My grandson and I leave Wednesday and the surgery is Thursday I'll write more later. This is the one that is having intestinal surgery. He is begging me to crochet a cat or something to take in to surgery room with him.Sent from my iPod

February 6, 2010

Take your time dearest and use your energy to heal. We can be

patient.

Sending many prayers your way.

Hugs,

In a message dated 2/6/2010 6:30:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

vgammill@... writes:

List,

I greatly appreciate the many words of encouragement from so many. I

want to answer each individually but it is extremely difficult for me

right now. Several have asked for details of the things I am

doing. I will do my best to write it up during the next few days.

Thank you,

February 6, 2010

Thank you Bill. It's Szuki by the way..she was my beloved dog.

In a message dated 2/6/2010 9:51:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

w.wilkins@... writes:

Thanks Victor,

I know you and all the members of cancer and all other 5 websites are

sincere, but I got overflooded when I was a member .

I now go thru 50 emails a day, vs. @200 than , I can't imagine how many

you go thru. I reed the messages you and Suzuki send and they are very

informative.

Bill

update

List,

I greatly appreciate the many words of encouragement from so many. I

want to answer each individually but it is extremely difficult for me

right now. Several have asked for details of the things I am

doing. I will do my best to write it up during the next few days.

Thank you,

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

February 6, 2010

i am sure everyone understands. if you need anything you know how to reach me.

hope your doing better. your in my thoughts and prayers.

Â

jenny

Immature love is loving someone because you need them, mature love is needing

someone because you love them!

From: VGammill <vgammill@...>

Subject: update

cures for cancer

Cc:

Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 6:30 PM

Â

List,

I greatly appreciate the many words of encouragement from so many. I

want to answer each individually but it is extremely difficult for me

right now. Several have asked for details of the things I am

doing. I will do my best to write it up during the next few days.

Thank you,

February 6, 2010

Thanks Victor,

I know you and all the members of cancer and all other 5 websites are sincere,

but I got overflooded when I was a member .

I now go thru 50 emails a day, vs. @200 than , I can't imagine how many you go

thru. I reed the messages you and Suzuki send and they are very informative.

Bill

update

List,

I greatly appreciate the many words of encouragement from so many. I

want to answer each individually but it is extremely difficult for me

right now. Several have asked for details of the things I am

doing. I will do my best to write it up during the next few days.

Thank you,

February 6, 2010

Ssuki,

I can understand the wonderful affection you developed with your beloved dog.

Joy and I have had Yorkshire terriers

all during our 44 wonderful years of marriage!

Thank You,

Bill

update

List,

I greatly appreciate the many words of encouragement from so many. I

want to answer each individually but it is extremely difficult for me

right now. Several have asked for details of the things I am

doing. I will do my best to write it up during the next few days.

Thank you,

February 7, 2010

Yes..beyond affection..when Szuki died I developed an extra heartbeat that

showed up on the EKGs. I liked to think that there were two hearts beating

as one! I loved Szuki like my own flesh and blood..she was an

extraordinary dog..more than a dog actually and altho it's hard to explain

without

having met her, everyone who did meet her commented on that. She was one of

5 dogs that was in a clinical trial at St 's Hospital that changed

NY State law so therapy dogs could work in acute care hospitals across NY

State. She was a pioneer! She also was the Friends of Animals mascott when

they did a demonstration at Rockerfeller Center and Szuki who howled like a

wolf on command, wore a sign (please don't kill my cousins the wolves) and

sang her little heart out all afternoon. She was even invited to sing on

a jazz radio show!!! What a special girl she was. I miss her to this day.

In a message dated 2/7/2010 3:15:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

w.wilkins@... writes:

Ssuki,

I can understand the wonderful affection you developed with your beloved

dog. Joy and I have had Yorkshire terriers

all during our 44 wonderful years of marriage!

Thank You,

Bill

update

List,

I greatly appreciate the many words of encouragement from so many. I

want to answer each individually but it is extremely difficult for me

right now. Several have asked for details of the things I am

doing. I will do my best to write it up during the next few days.

Thank you,

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

March 29, 2010

Yep:)

Generally cravings mean there's something your

body needs. When cows start chewing the pasture

rails or other non food things, the farmer or

rancher knows they need mineral/salt blocks.

People are the same. Crave sugary treats and salt?

Your adrenals may be stressed, same for coffee,

tea, and ciggies. They're stimulants. That may be

the reason why so many people have such a hard

time trying to quit smoking, other than the

nicotine addiction, it could be the adrenal issues.

Bethann

" The greatest enemy of knowledge is not

ignorance...it is the illusion of knowledge "

~ Hawking

Jag Jag wrote:

>

> I decided to take Cal-Mag citrate (4 grams) and a gram of mag citrate

> extra. About 30 minutes later my heart seems to be slowing down, back to

> normal.

>

> I am also thinking that my craving the chocolate is not just about

> sugar, but also the magnesium that is in chocolate.

>

> Jag

>

March 29, 2010

Thanks for the 5-HTP suggestions, you guys!

Sherry

> > >

> > > >Well, what is the remedy for serotonin deficiency? Anti depressants are

> > > >the only thing I can think of...Somehow I don't think anti depressants

> > > >would be recommended by this group.

> > >

> > > I believe that a lot of ailments in our society are related to serotonin

> > > deficiency, which is related to demineralization of the soils and

> > constant

> > > stress, including lack of true darkness which inhibits melatonin

> > production

> > > which in turn affects serotonin production. I think the form one's

> > > serotonin-deficiency ailment takes is related to environmental and

> > genetic

> > > factors. I take a supplement called 5-HTP, which furnishes the brain with

> >

> > > the direct precursor to serotonin, effectively flooding the brain with

> > > serotonin. So whereas SSRI drugs and the like conserve whatever serotonin

> >

> > > a person has in their brain, that's not all that helpful if you don't

> > have

> > > enough to start with. I believe this is also possibly the reason why

> > SSRIs

> > > stop working for a lot of people, is that they just don't have any

> > > serotonin left to conserve. Studies have shown 5-HTP to be more effective

> >

> > > than prozac, and without side effects.

> > >

> > > I think being faithful to the iodine protocol will eventually repair my

> > > body's capacities and I am very excited about those potentials. For 10

> > > years I managed my fibromyalgia with 5-HTP, until a couple of years of

> > > unremitting stress coupled with major new stressors resulted in a health

> > > crash last fall. That's when I found LDN (hello, endorphins!) and the

> > > iodine protocol (hello, building block of all hormones in the body!). I'm

> >

> > > actually glad for the health crash because I believe I am now on a

> > better,

> > > more fundamentally effective path for wellness. But I still need the

> > > 5-HTP, for now.

> > >

> > > with best wishes,

> > > --

> > >

> > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> > > --A.J. Muste

> > >

> >

>

March 29, 2010

Thanks so much for the information, ...I believe what you said about

sticking with iodine and the payoff in the long run...It's just so unfortunate

to have to endure such a " painful " side effect. I'm very glad to hear about the

potential weight loss effect with 5-HTP though.

Thanks again

Sherry

> > > > >

> > > > > >Well, what is the remedy for serotonin deficiency? Anti

> > depressants are

> > > > > >the only thing I can think of...Somehow I don't think anti

depressants

> > > > > >would be recommended by this group.

> > > > >

> > > > > I believe that a lot of ailments in our society are related to

> > serotonin

> > > > > deficiency, which is related to demineralization of the soils and

> > constant

> > > > > stress, including lack of true darkness which inhibits melatonin

> > > > production

> > > > > which in turn affects serotonin production. I think the form one's

> > > > > serotonin-deficiency ailment takes is related to environmental and

> > genetic

> > > > > factors. I take a supplement called 5-HTP, which furnishes the

> > brain with

> > > > > the direct precursor to serotonin, effectively flooding the brain with

> > > > > serotonin. So whereas SSRI drugs and the like conserve whatever

> > serotonin

> > > > > a person has in their brain, that's not all that helpful if you

> > don't have

> > > > > enough to start with. I believe this is also possibly the reason why

> > > > SSRIs

> > > > > stop working for a lot of people, is that they just don't have any

> > > > > serotonin left to conserve. Studies have shown 5-HTP to be more

> > effective

> > > > > than prozac, and without side effects.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think being faithful to the iodine protocol will eventually repair

my

> > > > > body's capacities and I am very excited about those potentials. For

10

> > > > > years I managed my fibromyalgia with 5-HTP, until a couple of years of

> > > > > unremitting stress coupled with major new stressors resulted in a

> > health

> > > > > crash last fall. That's when I found LDN (hello, endorphins!) and the

> > > > > iodine protocol (hello, building block of all hormones in the

> > body!). I'm

> > > > > actually glad for the health crash because I believe I am now on a

> > better,

> > > > > more fundamentally effective path for wellness. But I still need the

> > > > > 5-HTP, for now.

> > > > >

> > > > > with best wishes,

> > > > > --

> > >

> > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> > > --A.J. Muste

> > >

> >

> >------------------------------------

> >

> >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

> >group IodineOT/

> >

> >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

March 29, 2010

I was talking with a lady who had been prescribed certain tablets. She had been on them for a year.

When I checked to see what they were for and likely adverse effects I discovered that they

should only be used for up to 8 weeks!!

I wonder how often this takes place.

With the internet it is possible to see this sort of error.

david

From: lookonthebriteside <slehr05@...>Subject: Re: updateiodine Date: Monday, 29 March, 2010, 19:41

I wouldn't be surprised if there are damaging effects from anti depressants (especially fluoxetine/Prozac) ...However, the only thing doctors would do for me since 1991 when my symptoms started, is prescribe antidepressants, and I have to say, they certainly didn't fix the problems, but without them, getting out of bed would have been nearly impossible. They did provide some relief. And I don't think it was a placebo effect. I actually participated in a drug study for an anti depressant. I'm certain I got placebo because I felt no different.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I decided to take Cal-Mag citrate (4 grams) and a gram of mag

> > citrate> > > > > extra. About 30 minutes later my heart seems to be slowing > > down, back to> > > > > normal.> > > > >> > > > > I am also thinking that my craving the chocolate is not just > > about> > > > > sugar, but also the magnesium that is in chocolate.> > > > >> > > > > Jag> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > >> > > >> > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group> > > > http://health. groups.. com/group/ IodineOT/> > > >> > >

>> > > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl. com/yhnds5e > > Groups Links> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

March 29, 2010

isn't amino acid L-trypthophan connected with serotonin production?

david

From: Baker <vbaker@...>Subject: Re: Re: updateiodine Date: Monday, 29 March, 2010, 19:48

>Well, what is the remedy for serotonin deficiency? Anti depressants are >the only thing I can think of...Somehow I don't think anti depressants >would be recommended by this group.I believe that a lot of ailments in our society are related to serotonin deficiency, which is related to demineralization of the soils and constant stress, including lack of true darkness which inhibits melatonin production which in turn affects serotonin production. I think the form one's serotonin-deficienc y ailment takes is related to environmental and genetic factors. I take a supplement called 5-HTP, which furnishes the brain with the direct precursor to serotonin, effectively flooding the brain with serotonin. So whereas SSRI drugs and the like conserve whatever serotonin a person has in their brain, that's not all that helpful if you don't have enough to start with. I believe this is also possibly

the reason why SSRIs stop working for a lot of people, is that they just don't have any serotonin left to conserve. Studies have shown 5-HTP to be more effective than prozac, and without side effects.I think being faithful to the iodine protocol will eventually repair my body's capacities and I am very excited about those potentials. For 10 years I managed my fibromyalgia with 5-HTP, until a couple of years of unremitting stress coupled with major new stressors resulted in a health crash last fall. That's when I found LDN (hello, endorphins!) and the iodine protocol (hello, building block of all hormones in the body!). I'm actually glad for the health crash because I believe I am now on a better, more fundamentally effective path for wellness. But I still need the 5-HTP, for now.with best wishes,--~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J.

Muste

March 29, 2010

I am not too sure on this but i thought if one's melatonin level is ok,

serotonin level should follow, no?

> > > > >

> > > > > I decided to take Cal-Mag citrate (4 grams) and a gram of mag

> > citrate

> > > > > extra. About 30 minutes later my heart seems to be slowing

> > down, back to

> > > > > normal.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am also thinking that my craving the chocolate is not just

> > about

> > > > > sugar, but also the magnesium that is in chocolate.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jag

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group

> > > > IodineOT/

> > > >

> > > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

> > Groups Links

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

March 29, 2010

Check out http://cchr.org

They will send free of charge a dvd with whistle blowers exposing the drug industry and how they falsify their studies.It's called"Making a Killing",the untold story of Psychotropic Drugging.

iodine From: anneseals@...Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:42:34 -0700Subject: Re: Re: update

The Depressing News About Antidepressants

Studies suggest that the popular drugs are no more effective than a placebo. In fact, they may be worse.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/232781

On Mar 29, 2010, at 11:29 AM, lookonthebriteside wrote:

Well, what is the remedy for serotonin deficiency? Anti depressants are the only thing I can think of...Somehow I don't think anti depressants would be recommended by this group.> > >> > >> > > I decided to take Cal-Mag citrate (4 grams) and a gram of mag citrate> > > extra. About 30 minutes later my heart seems to be slowing down, back to> > > normal.> > >> > > I am also thinking that my craving the chocolate is not just about> > > sugar, but also the magnesium that is in chocolate.> > >> > > Jag> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > ------------------------------------> >> >> > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group> > IodineOT/> >> >> > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

March 29, 2010

One way the body gets 5-HTP is that tryptophan is converted into 5-HTP and

waste metabolites that are actually known bladder and kidney carcinogens.

Tryptophan is one of the rarest amino acids, and some people think that's a

good thing based on these metabolites. So if you supplement with 5-HTP

directly instead of with tryptophan, you're saving your body the work of

converting it, and sparing the body the work of detoxifying the waste

products. 5-HTP supplement is made from the extract of the seeds of the

Griffonia plant, native to South Africa.

--

>isn't amino acid L-trypthophan connected with serotonin production?

>david

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

March 29, 2010

I have been on a roller-coaster with SSRI's since 1995. A doctor intimidated me

during a time when I was vulnerable and full of grief and anger and sadness, and

instead of helping me with the problem, he pushed Prozac on me.

I haven't been the same since.

After 2 years they stopped " doing their thing " and I ended up severely depressed

(clinically depressed vs. the sadness I had experienced prior to the Prozac).

It " did " something to my brain. I ended up in the hospital.

After a few different trials, I ended up on Paxil, which I took until 2005, when

IT TOO " stopped working. " I went into such a severe depression, I had to quit

work. Was hospitalized twice. I was suicidal. No medication was working now.

I tried dozens. Had ECT (shock treatments). Nothing worked.

A new doctor finally, just this past December, came up with a new combo of meds

that appears to be helping me (otherwise, I wouldn't even be typing this right

now).

During these last 5 years of this severe depression, I tried every natural thing

under the sun. Seriously. Lots of them and in huge quantities. I consulted

with Naturopaths. I did Acupuncture. Nothing worked and I BELIEVE it's because

the SSRI did permanent damage to my neurotransmitter system in my brain. Just

my opinion, based on what I experienced and my gut.

But I was never really depressed before I went on the Prozac in the first place.

AFTER, THAT was real depression. I now know the difference.

If I could get off these meds, I would, believe me. But I have yet to find a

natural alternative that works for me.

I warn people not to go on SSRI's frivolously. If you are just " down " do not

let your doctor talk you into taking an Anti-depressant. They are horrible and

even when they don't work, you cannot just go off them because you have become

dependent on them and go through serious withdrawal from them.

Guess I'm ranting now. Sorry. Thanks for listening. I'm feeling good now,

knock on wood, but the last 5 years were hell.

On a technical note: L-Tryptophan is the amino acid that is the precursor to

Serotonin. Your body takes the L-Tryptophan and converts it to the 5-HTP. So,

when you buy and take 5-HTP (which somehow they have managed to get from a plant

source), you are just by-passing that first conversion your body would have to

do. So it is better than the L-Tryptophan.

And also, did you know that the largest portion of your neurotransmitters are

found in your intestinal tract? (not your brain). So any problem you may have

in that area can affect your mood. IBS, Crohn's, Colitis, diarrhea,

constipation, leaky gut syndrome, etc.

Beverly

>

> From: Baker <vbaker@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: update

> iodine

> Date: Monday, 29 March, 2010, 19:48

>

> Â

>

> >Well, what is the remedy for serotonin deficiency? Anti depressants are

> >the only thing I can think of...Somehow I don't think anti depressants

> >would be recommended by this group.

>

> I believe that a lot of ailments in our society are related to serotonin

> deficiency, which is related to demineralization of the soils and constant

> stress, including lack of true darkness which inhibits melatonin production

> which in turn affects serotonin production. I think the form one's

> serotonin-deficienc y ailment takes is related to environmental and genetic

> factors. I take a supplement called 5-HTP, which furnishes the brain with

> the direct precursor to serotonin, effectively flooding the brain with

> serotonin. So whereas SSRI drugs and the like conserve whatever serotonin

> a person has in their brain, that's not all that helpful if you don't have

> enough to start with. I believe this is also possibly the reason why SSRIs

> stop working for a lot of people, is that they just don't have any

> serotonin left to conserve. Studies have shown 5-HTP to be more effective

> than prozac, and without side effects.

>

> I think being faithful to the iodine protocol will eventually repair my

> body's capacities and I am very excited about those potentials. For 10

> years I managed my fibromyalgia with 5-HTP, until a couple of years of

> unremitting stress coupled with major new stressors resulted in a health

> crash last fall. That's when I found LDN (hello, endorphins!) and the

> iodine protocol (hello, building block of all hormones in the body!). I'm

> actually glad for the health crash because I believe I am now on a better,

> more fundamentally effective path for wellness. But I still need the

> 5-HTP, for now.

>

> with best wishes,

> --

>

> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>

March 30, 2010

Beverly,Since I have gone gluten free I have no more depression. It took about 3 to 4 months but I no longer take my cymbalta.Â What a diffference in the way I felt taking gluten out of my life. Maybe you should try it.Â from IllinoisFrom: Beverly53 <beebie10@...>To:

iodine Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 11:24:54 PMSubject: Re: update

Â

I have been on a roller-coaster with SSRI's since 1995. A doctor intimidated me during a time when I was vulnerable and full of grief and anger and sadness, and instead of helping me with the problem, he pushed Prozac on me.

I haven't been the same since.

After 2 years they stopped "doing their thing" and I ended up severely depressed (clinically depressed vs. the sadness I had experienced prior to the Prozac). It "did" something to my brain. I ended up in the hospital.

After a few different trials, I ended up on Paxil, which I took until 2005, when IT TOO "stopped working." I went into such a severe depression, I had to quit work. Was hospitalized twice. I was suicidal. No medication was working now. I tried dozens. Had ECT (shock treatments). Nothing worked.

A new doctor finally, just this past December, came up with a new combo of meds that appears to be helping me (otherwise, I wouldn't even be typing this right now).

During these last 5 years of this severe depression, I tried every natural thing under the sun. Seriously. Lots of them and in huge quantities. I consulted with Naturopaths. I did Acupuncture. Nothing worked and I BELIEVE it's because the SSRI did permanent damage to my neurotransmitter system in my brain. Just my opinion, based on what I experienced and my gut.

But I was never really depressed before I went on the Prozac in the first place. AFTER, THAT was real depression. I now know the difference.

If I could get off these meds, I would, believe me. But I have yet to find a natural alternative that works for me.

I warn people not to go on SSRI's frivolously. If you are just "down" do not let your doctor talk you into taking an Anti-depressant. They are horrible and even when they don't work, you cannot just go off them because you have become dependent on them and go through serious withdrawal from them.

Guess I'm ranting now. Sorry. Thanks for listening. I'm feeling good now, knock on wood, but the last 5 years were hell.

On a technical note: L-Tryptophan is the amino acid that is the precursor to Serotonin. Your body takes the L-Tryptophan and converts it to the 5-HTP. So, when you buy and take 5-HTP (which somehow they have managed to get from a plant source), you are just by-passing that first conversion your body would have to do. So it is better than the L-Tryptophan.

And also, did you know that the largest portion of your neurotransmitters are found in your intestinal tract? (not your brain). So any problem you may have in that area can affect your mood. IBS, Crohn's, Colitis, diarrhea, constipation, leaky gut syndrome, etc.

Beverly

>

> From: Baker <vbaker@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: update

> iodinegroups (DOT) com

> Date: Monday, 29 March, 2010, 19:48

>

> Ã‚Â