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Posted here a few months ago was a study of the omega 3 in such eggs. It

was so low that it was laughable. Get your omega 3's from a rich source

(and it's always better to get it from a natural one anyway) such as fish.

on 10/13/2004 9:10 AM, rwalkerad1970 at rwalkerad1970@... wrote:

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> freebird: when I look at eggs as part of a balanced diet (not to

> high in total fat) then they seem a very good source of natural

> omega3, vit E and selenium.

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1. What's unnatural 'bout eggs?

2. Fish may contain mercury, PCBs, other heavy metals and pesticides,

fire retardants, etc., so purified fish oil may indeed be a " better "

choice.

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:10:43 -0000, rwalkerad1970

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> freebird: when I look at eggs as part of a balanced diet (not to

> high in total fat) then they seem a very good source of natural

> omega3, vit E and selenium. So are you saying the cholesterol in

> eggs is bad, if so then is my own blood cholesterol not the most

> important factor for my own personal health (my 12 eggs a week blood

> cholesterol when tested at the doctors about a year and half ago was

> 3.6 (that's about 140 in american numbers) is that figure bad?, the

> doctors say it is low. This is only the total figure, did not get a

> break down (will get a break down early next year when I have a new

> test).

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> Rodney: When you say ALA do you mean the 18:3 Alpha Linolenic Acid

> which is in flaxseed and flax oil is that in your opinion the

> dangerous fat for prostate cancer and if so what do you think of

> 18:2 Linoleic Acid is that safe prostate wise. (I have been

> wondering whether to add a bit of flax seed to diet for sake of

> variety, guess that would not be a good idea then? are walnuts a

> problem in your opinion?)

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> Rodney: My omega 3 eggs have the following information on the back,

> but they are from a local united kingdom supplier so not much chance

> of you getting then same ones in USA, but this is what it says per

> 100g " Polyunsaturates 1.3g - Total Omega 3 fatty acids 300mg of

> which long chain omega 3 (including DHA) 195mg. "

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> Another supplier of omega 3 eggs I have sometimes used give the

> following info, but its not clear to me if they are saying this

> transformation happens in the egg before you eat it or in your body

> after you eat it: " When linoleic acid and alpha-linolenic acid

> interact with certain enzymes, they go through two transformations:

> they become polyunsaturated by increasing the number of double

> bonds, and they become longer (add more carbon atoms) When they

> change in this manner, they are given new names. Linoleic acid

> becomes gamma-linolenic, or GLA, and then arachidonic acid, or AA.

> Alpha-linolenic acid becomes eicosapentaenoic acid, or EPA, and then

> docosahexaenoic acid, or DHA.

> (http://www.columbuseggs.com/acidprimer.html

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> I always presumed, Rodney, that the omega3 egg supplies epa/dha

> rather than the ALA, so although I don't worry about the cholesterol

> in eggs, you got me worried about the ALA issue as I guess you have

> done a good bit of research in this area.

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Nothing unnatural about eggs and I eat them myself (plain not omega 3's)

because they're rich in many nutrients; but omega 3's are an addition (IIRC

through feeding flaxseed to chickens). Last I heard, fish contamination was

low and only dangerous to high risk populations such as pregnant women.

on 10/13/2004 9:27 AM, Dowling at

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> 1. What's unnatural 'bout eggs?

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> 2. Fish may contain mercury, PCBs, other heavy metals and pesticides,

> fire retardants, etc., so purified fish oil may indeed be a " better "

> choice.

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For fish, depends upon the fish, and location caught or farmed. Also,

it's tough to get large doses of DHA and EPA unless one eats a lot of

fish. The more one eats, the greater the potential contaminant load.

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 14:07:42 -0000, rwalkerad1970

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> the omega 3 enriched free range eggs only appeared in my town about

> nine months ago, I switched to them from free-range organic, looks

> like that may have been a bad move. Infact the organic free range

> ones cost less money and the omega3 ones were never organic, only

> free-range. I do eat sardines so the omega3 in those enriched eggs,

> like fransesca says, was always a bit of a joke, especially compared

> to sardines.

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> a very confused .........

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I'm too lazy to go back again. I think I've posted on this subject at least

twice. The omega 3 eggs are manufactured by supplementing the chicken feed.

There is one or more patents describing the supplements used and target

result.

I consider this a (successful) marketing gimmick and might advise buying the

egg company's stock before their eggs....

If you need more n-3 in your diet their are several whole foods that are

good sources.

JR

-----Original Message-----

From: Rodney [mailto:perspect1111@...]

Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 5:50 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Dozen eggs a week now safe?

Hi :

For me the issue is: " What is the omega-3 that is in eggs? " . Is it

EPA and DHA? Or is it ALA?

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Agree. I think of food as my enemy and it better do more than taste good.

As Jack LaLanne says:"if it tastes good, don't eat it".

It was the martha stewart ad making tamale pie that caused me to quit watching the TV chefs, forever.

SIX grams of sodium per serving.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: freebird5005

Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:47 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Dozen eggs a week now safe?

Eggs have too much cholesterol and too much sat fats.. i think thatabout sums it up.The way I approach this is I start with this (weel-founded) assumptionTHAT all foods are bad for you, so I ask two questions: which foodsare less bad and in what quantities. Plant foods in general are lessbad.. begin sort!> "Conclusions: Intake of 2 eggs/d results in the maintenance ofLDL:HDL and in the generation of a less atherogenic LDL in thispopulation of Mexican children. "> > doesn't mean they are "safe". doesn't say anything for omega-3 eggs.> > Regards.

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