Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Get yourself some real electrodeshttp://www.medicalproductsonline.org/silver-coated-electrodes--10-packages-4-per-p.html Look around and find them for cheap - use scissors to trim them down to nice sizes and get a velcro wrist strap from your local drug store.BradOn Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:22 PM, martin7730 <martin7730@...> wrote: I just finished my version of the Beck Zapper using two 9 volt batteries in series. I measured the quiescent current of the device with out the electrodes attached to my wrist at just under 2ma, measured in series with the batteries. I then connected the wrist band and the current measured at 4ma. Based on the peak output voltage on a scope, I determined the value of resistor across the contacts of the wrist band that would draw 2ma. I then measured the current in series with the batteries and found it to be 4ma. It appears that I am able to apply 2ma to my wrist which feels too uncomfortable, so I had to turn it down a little. The electrodes have a cloth around it with salt diluted in water applied. What I would like to know if you can buy just the wrist band with electrodes from a retailer. The ones I made seem to work fine, but may not hold up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Heck, go to the fabric section of a Wallmart or a fabric store and get some velcro strips in a suitable width.Make your wrist strap Make electrode holders by stitching a straw sized fold in some cotton scrap, then cutting them to length. Chuck The workers at the Federal Mint went on strike today. They are demanding to make less money! On 10/8/2008 1:22:49 PM, martin7730 (martin7730@...) wrote: > > What I would like to know if you can buy just the wrist band with > electrodes from a retailer. The ones I made seem to work fine, but may > not hold up. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008  are those the silver prongs used with the beck silver pulser? is it possible to use copper wires with the sota silver pulser someone said to try it as it's good? confused Re: My Zapper Get yourself some real electrodeshttp://www.medicalproductsonline.org/silver-coated-electrodes--10-packages-4-per-p.htmlLook around and find them for cheap - use scissors to trim them down to nice sizes and get a velcro wrist strap from your local drug store.Brad On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:22 PM, martin7730 <martin7730@...> wrote: I just finished my version of the Beck Zapper using two 9 voltbatteries in series. I measured the quiescent current of the devicewith out the electrodes attached to my wrist at just under 2ma,measured in series with the batteries. I then connected the wrist bandand the current measured at 4ma. Based on the peak output voltage on ascope, I determined the value of resistor across the contacts of thewrist band that would draw 2ma. I then measured the current in serieswith the batteries and found it to be 4ma. It appears that I am able to apply 2ma to my wrist which feels toouncomfortable, so I had to turn it down a little. The electrodes havea cloth around it with salt diluted in water applied.What I would like to know if you can buy just the wrist band withelectrodes from a retailer. The ones I made seem to work fine, but maynot hold up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Yes, they are 99.999% pure silver. And no, no, no, no, do NOT try to make colloidal copper! It is nearly impossible to find pure copper and if you use regular copper wire you will make yourself very, very ill. Silver and Gold are the only metals your body is very efficient at removing. You get plenty of copper in a vitamin or some broccoli. Good luck,BradOn Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 6:49 PM, kathelee <kathelee@...> wrote:  are those the silver prongs used with the beck silver pulser? is it possible to use copper wires with the sota silver pulser someone said to try it as it's good? confused Re: My Zapper Get yourself some real electrodeshttp://www.medicalproductsonline.org/silver-coated-electrodes--10-packages-4-per-p.html Look around and find them for cheap - use scissors to trim them down to nice sizes and get a velcro wrist strap from your local drug store.Brad On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:22 PM, martin7730 <martin7730@...> wrote: I just finished my version of the Beck Zapper using two 9 voltbatteries in series. I measured the quiescent current of the devicewith out the electrodes attached to my wrist at just under 2ma,measured in series with the batteries. I then connected the wrist bandand the current measured at 4ma. Based on the peak output voltage on ascope, I determined the value of resistor across the contacts of thewrist band that would draw 2ma. I then measured the current in serieswith the batteries and found it to be 4ma. It appears that I am able to apply 2ma to my wrist which feels toouncomfortable, so I had to turn it down a little. The electrodes havea cloth around it with salt diluted in water applied.What I would like to know if you can buy just the wrist band withelectrodes from a retailer. The ones I made seem to work fine, but maynot hold up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008  thankyou someone told me they used copper wires? anyway what would gold do ? thanks kathelee Re: My Zapper Get yourself some real electrodeshttp://www.medicalproductsonline.org/silver-coated-electrodes--10-packages-4-per-p.htmlLook around and find them for cheap - use scissors to trim them down to nice sizes and get a velcro wrist strap from your local drug store.Brad On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:22 PM, martin7730 <martin7730@...> wrote: I just finished my version of the Beck Zapper using two 9 voltbatteries in series. I measured the quiescent current of the devicewith out the electrodes attached to my wrist at just under 2ma,measured in series with the batteries. I then connected the wrist bandand the current measured at 4ma. Based on the peak output voltage on ascope, I determined the value of resistor across the contacts of thewrist band that would draw 2ma. I then measured the current in serieswith the batteries and found it to be 4ma. It appears that I am able to apply 2ma to my wrist which feels toouncomfortable, so I had to turn it down a little. The electrodes havea cloth around it with salt diluted in water applied.What I would like to know if you can buy just the wrist band withelectrodes from a retailer. The ones I made seem to work fine, but maynot hold up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Sorry, My mistake, I thought you were talking about making colloidal metal. If you are just using it for your wrist then metal is okay, but again, some of it may leech into your system. I would use the silicon electrodes. Good luck,BradOn Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:50 PM, kathelee <kathelee@...> wrote:  thankyou someone told me they used copper wires? anyway what would gold do ? thanks kathelee Re: My Zapper Get yourself some real electrodeshttp://www.medicalproductsonline.org/silver-coated-electrodes--10-packages-4-per-p.html Look around and find them for cheap - use scissors to trim them down to nice sizes and get a velcro wrist strap from your local drug store.Brad On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:22 PM, martin7730 <martin7730@...> wrote: I just finished my version of the Beck Zapper using two 9 voltbatteries in series. I measured the quiescent current of the devicewith out the electrodes attached to my wrist at just under 2ma,measured in series with the batteries. I then connected the wrist bandand the current measured at 4ma. Based on the peak output voltage on ascope, I determined the value of resistor across the contacts of thewrist band that would draw 2ma. I then measured the current in serieswith the batteries and found it to be 4ma. It appears that I am able to apply 2ma to my wrist which feels toouncomfortable, so I had to turn it down a little. The electrodes havea cloth around it with salt diluted in water applied.What I would like to know if you can buy just the wrist band withelectrodes from a retailer. The ones I made seem to work fine, but maynot hold up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008  ....actually i've read the copper in elec wire is (or is supposed to be) quite pure. i don't know why people consume colloidal copper... seems like a real bad idea. -----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of Brad AndersenSent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:15 PM Subject: Re: My Zapper Yes, they are 99.999% pure silver. And no, no, no, no, do NOT try to make colloidal copper! It is nearly impossible to find pure copper and if you use regular copper wire you will make yourself very, very ill. Silver and Gold are the only metals your body is very efficient at removing. You get plenty of copper in a vitamin or some broccoli.Good luck,Brad On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 6:49 PM, kathelee <kathelee@...> wrote:  are those the silver prongs used with the beck silver pulser? is it possible to use copper wires with the sota silver pulser someone said to try it as it's good? confused Re: My Zapper Get yourself some real electrodeshttp://www.medicalproductsonline.org/silver-coated-electrodes--10-packages-4-per-p.htmlLook around and find them for cheap - use scissors to trim them down to nice sizes and get a velcro wrist strap from your local drug store.Brad On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:22 PM, martin7730 <martin7730@...> wrote: I just finished my version of the Beck Zapper using two 9 voltbatteries in series. I measured the quiescent current of the devicewith out the electrodes attached to my wrist at just under 2ma,measured in series with the batteries. I then connected the wrist bandand the current measured at 4ma. Based on the peak output voltage on ascope, I determined the value of resistor across the contacts of thewrist band that would draw 2ma. I then measured the current in serieswith the batteries and found it to be 4ma. It appears that I am able to apply 2ma to my wrist which feels toouncomfortable, so I had to turn it down a little. The electrodes havea cloth around it with salt diluted in water applied.What I would like to know if you can buy just the wrist band withelectrodes from a retailer. The ones I made seem to work fine, but maynot hold up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 I could probably order some 99.99% silver wire that is 1/8 inch thick to replace my stainless steel rods. Actually making the holder would be the hardest part for me. > > > > > What I would like to know if you can buy just the wrist band with > > electrodes from a retailer. The ones I made seem to work fine, but may > > not hold up. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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