Re: beck, tens, dc, clarke

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BG,

I think the Beck device is limited a lot by the way it's normally used - on one wrist. This limits it to only affecting germs in the blood. It cannot affect germs resident elsewhere in the body. For instance, it was totally useless on my prostatitus until I started using it between both feet. This got some of the current to where it was needed and slowly resolved the problem. Likewise it won't get to flu or cold germs in the sinuses, unless the electrodes are actually placed in that area.

The germkiller group is all about getting the current to where it's actually needed for specific problems, so is not limited to blood born germs.

Bernie

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From: baby_grand

Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:07 AM

Subject: beck, tens, dc, clarke

beck -- generally good on germs, not always. supplemented with dc device together may lower viral loads, but by itself almost certainly will not. it pulses and annoys user who turns it down or is unbearable. the quick reversing current "undoes" some of the damaage to germs, rendering a net charge zero condition for some of the time of usage. however, works fine on malaria, and other things, but virus in bloodstream probably needs dc.clarke--not too familiar with it, seems like a nerve stimulus device, very low output, will ease pain along path of current while used, afterwards pain returns. uses dc switched on and off rapidly, so is similar to dc anesthetic effects, maybe moreso. temporary pain relief, maybe.dc--generally powerful, must be reversed every 5 minutes or so to avoid chemical buildups.tens---short intense burst of current. useless except for physio-therapy. people have lots of these things and think they will kill germs. none so far have.bG

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Well, that is great, please extend my very best wishes to her.

Please refresh me here on what the illness is we are working with? sorry lost

the original thread.

sponges should not be dripping, but wet. the use of the average tap water gives

a good power level, but if too pure the water will lack conductivity. in that

case add a pinch of baking soda to final rinse water for the sponges. watch

out. it will bump it way up from where it was. use a meter! with dc it is

easy to measure with a cheap meter, 5 bucks or so from Radio shack or harbor

freight, etc. Learning to use one is very valuable skill, only takes a few

minutes maybe an hour total. others can coach you on it if you need, but you

sound tech person to me.

If you are making a suit try to locate where the germ is located so you may be

better able to approach it.

bG

> > > > >

> > > > > BG,

> > > > >

> > > > > I think the Beck device is limited a lot by the way it's normally

> > > > used - on one wrist. This limits it to only affecting germs in the

> > > > blood. It cannot affect germs resident elsewhere in the body. For

> > > > instance, it was totally useless on my prostatitus until I started

> > > > using it between both feet. This got some of the current to where it

> > > > was needed and slowly resolved the problem. Likewise it won't get to

> > > > flu or cold germs in the sinuses, unless the electrodes are actually

> > > > placed in that area.

> > > > >

> > > > > The germkiller group is all about getting the current to where it's

> > > > actually needed for specific problems, so is not limited to blood born

> > > > germs.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bernie

> > > > >

> > > > > ---- Original Message -----

> > > > > From: baby_grand

> > > > >

> > > > <mailto:%40>

> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:07 AM

> > > > > Subject: beck, tens, dc, clarke

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > beck -- generally good on germs, not always. supplemented with dc

> > > > device together may lower viral loads, but by itself almost certainly

> > > > will not. it pulses and annoys user who turns it down or is

> > > > unbearable. the quick reversing current " undoes " some of the damaage

> > > > to germs, rendering a net charge zero condition for some of the time

> > > > of usage. however, works fine on malaria, and other things, but virus

> > > > in bloodstream probably needs dc.

> > > > >

> > > > > clarke--not too familiar with it, seems like a nerve stimulus

> > > > device, very low output, will ease pain along path of current while

> > > > used, afterwards pain returns. uses dc switched on and off rapidly, so

> > > > is similar to dc anesthetic effects, maybe moreso. temporary pain

> > > > relief, maybe.

> > > > >

> > > > > dc--generally powerful, must be reversed every 5 minutes or so to

> > > > avoid chemical buildups.

> > > > >

> > > > > tens---short intense burst of current. useless except for

> > > > physio-therapy. people have lots of these things and think they will

> > > > kill germs. none so far have.

> > > > >

> > > > > bG

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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