Re: Study confirms stress speeds aging

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This is a bummer. Living = stress. No doubt the opposite of stress

(boredom?) is its own type of " stress " - so there's not much getting away

from it.

There are people who just seem to be born " laid back " .

I'm glad I'm doing yoga.

on 11/30/2004 8:22 AM, aequalsz at aequalsz@... wrote:

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First, they need to be in an environment where they CAN be laid back. I lose psychological stress by thinking about how much of man's projects will remain when man is gone. In a thousand years there will likely be far less humans, maybe the population will cycle, but today's projects will be mostly gone.

The hardiest is maybe the faces carved on mountains but those are weathering even today. So they will surely be smooth in 10,000 years. A lot happens in just a few hundred years to cover up and break down stone structures erected just the last 1000 years. Even pyramids will be eroded or covered up in 10,000 yrs.

I can't imagine humans living a 10000 yrs from now so why would I worry about wars, who's elected, whose god is the greatest, and especially a schedule for the completion of say another Eiffel tower?

I worked with a schedule for many years, primarily based on funding. then I got the notion if they really wanted this thing, they'd extend the funding or I'd get another job. Once completed, I had to get another job anyway, so why worry?

I worked 7-12's on the Atlas program once and once it was completed they began dismantling the sites. So why did I worry? On the last site, they were actually trying to get me to worry about the schedule for contract completion knowing full well they would be dismantled and everyone laid off. ONLY HUMANS do that.

That's the kind of stress that drives folks nuts. Meaningless BS.

"Laid back" is an observational psychological response to things we have no control of.

Regards.

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From: Francesca Skelton

Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 7:50 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Study confirms stress speeds aging

This is a bummer. Living = stress. No doubt the opposite of stress(boredom?) is its own type of "stress" - so there's not much getting awayfrom it.There are people who just seem to be born "laid back".I'm glad I'm doing yoga.on 11/30/2004 8:22 AM, aequalsz at aequalsz@... wrote:> > Hello,> > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6613721/> > Aequalsz>

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Let's consider one does not have the luxury of time to ponder " how much of man's

projects will remain when man is gone " . Perhaps you have a job where you can

walk away from your desk and get a few minutes of fresh air. Maybe you could

take off for the remainder of the day. How about an early lunch break?

For those of us who are in constant, extreme stress, I would say CRON and yoga

are the best answers. I came to CRON looking for health. My co-workers suffer

from heart-attacks, high blood pressure, high rates of cancer, etc. and all of

us are under 55 years old.

I am a 35 year old Air Traffic Controller at the 4th busiest airport in the

United States. After 15 years in this position, I feel I can speak with

authority on stress and its impact on my body. Stress is a relative thing.

Each person " stresses " over something for intimate reasons understood only by

someone in their " shoes " . If my body has been fed what it needs, no more, no

less, the rough edges seems rubbed off during the tough situations. I have

exceptional mental clarity and greatly improved ability to cope with harsh

shiftwork and little sleep.

Whether or not to CRON is not an option for me. It is necessary for survival.

I only hope others can see this before it is too late.

Sincerely,

le Howell

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that input le,

I once knew an air traffic controller guy and I am sure that stress effected his health.

Do women, you think react moreso than men?

Just wondering.

Regards.

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From: cookingdani@...

Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:37 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Study confirms stress speeds aging

Let's consider one does not have the luxury of time to ponder "how much of man's projects will remain when man is gone". Perhaps you have a job where you can walk away from your desk and get a few minutes of fresh air. Maybe you could take off for the remainder of the day. How about an early lunch break?For those of us who are in constant, extreme stress, I would say CRON and yoga are the best answers. I came to CRON looking for health. My co-workers suffer from heart-attacks, high blood pressure, high rates of cancer, etc. and all of us are under 55 years old.I am a 35 year old Air Traffic Controller at the 4th busiest airport in the United States. After 15 years in this position, I feel I can speak with authority on stress and its impact on my body. Stress is a relative thing. Each person "stresses" over something for intimate reasons understood only by someone in their "shoes". If my body has been fed what it needs, no more, no less, the rough edges seems rubbed off during the tough situations. I have exceptional mental clarity and greatly improved ability to cope with harsh shiftwork and little sleep. Whether or not to CRON is not an option for me. It is necessary for survival. I only hope others can see this before it is too late.Sincerely, le Howell

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Meditation, also perhaps. Anyone here ever read " Jitterbug Perfume " by

Tom Robbins? All about life extension. The protagonists extended their

youth for decades via meditiation, CR, hot tubbing, and dancing. A

quite enjoyable and diverting novel, IMO. I read it about 20 years

ago, and it started me towards the practice of CR, as well as

meditation. Hot tubbing once in a while. Although I own one, my kids

use it a lot more than I do.

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:11:54 -0600, jwwright <jwwright@...> wrote:

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> Thanks for that input le,

> I once knew an air traffic controller guy and I am sure that stress effected

> his health.

> Do women, you think react moreso than men?

> Just wondering.

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> Regards.

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> ----- Original Message -----

> From: cookingdani@...

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> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:37 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Study confirms stress speeds aging

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> Let's consider one does not have the luxury of time to ponder " how much of

> man's projects will remain when man is gone " . Perhaps you have a job where

> you can walk away from your desk and get a few minutes of fresh air. Maybe

> you could take off for the remainder of the day. How about an early lunch

> break?

>

> For those of us who are in constant, extreme stress, I would say CRON and

> yoga are the best answers. I came to CRON looking for health. My

> co-workers suffer from heart-attacks, high blood pressure, high rates of

> cancer, etc. and all of us are under 55 years old.

>

> I am a 35 year old Air Traffic Controller at the 4th busiest airport in the

> United States. After 15 years in this position, I feel I can speak with

> authority on stress and its impact on my body. Stress is a relative thing.

> Each person " stresses " over something for intimate reasons understood only

> by someone in their " shoes " . If my body has been fed what it needs, no

> more, no less, the rough edges seems rubbed off during the tough situations.

> I have exceptional mental clarity and greatly improved ability to cope with

> harsh shiftwork and little sleep.

>

> Whether or not to CRON is not an option for me. It is necessary for

> survival. I only hope others can see this before it is too late.

>

> Sincerely,

> le Howell

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had once read an anecdote about a woman who had a stubborn case of

depression that defied even meds. She licked it by " dancing " and music

whenever she could.

on 11/30/2004 1:10 PM, Dowling at

christopher.a.dowling@... wrote:

> Meditation, also perhaps. Anyone here ever read " Jitterbug Perfume " by

> Tom Robbins? All about life extension. The protagonists extended their

> youth for decades via meditiation, CR, hot tubbing, and dancing. A

> quite enjoyable and diverting novel, IMO. I read it about 20 years

> ago, and it started me towards the practice of CR, as well as

> meditation. Hot tubbing once in a while. Although I own one, my kids

> use it a lot more than I do.

>

[Guest guest]

Exercise is a terrific antidepressant, and music adds to the

experience, and the effectiveness of exercise, according to recent

studies. Thus dancing is, perhaps, the best exercise.

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:18:57 -0500, Francesca Skelton

<fskelton@...> wrote:

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> I had once read an anecdote about a woman who had a stubborn case of

> depression that defied even meds. She licked it by " dancing " and music

> whenever she could.

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> on 11/30/2004 1:10 PM, Dowling at

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> christopher.a.dowling@... wrote:

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> > Meditation, also perhaps. Anyone here ever read " Jitterbug Perfume " by

> > Tom Robbins? All about life extension. The protagonists extended their

> > youth for decades via meditiation, CR, hot tubbing, and dancing. A

> > quite enjoyable and diverting novel, IMO. I read it about 20 years

> > ago, and it started me towards the practice of CR, as well as

> > meditation. Hot tubbing once in a while. Although I own one, my kids

> > use it a lot more than I do.

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[Guest guest]

Hi All,

Stress, food search and longevity may be related, says the below, I

believe.

Hunt for food, avoiding predators stresses out sparrows

Last Updated Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:29:29 EST

TORONTO - For songbirds, the stress of trying to find food without

becoming dinner can be like coping with post-traumatic stress,

scientists say.

" Kill or be killed combat stress can have life-long consequences for

humans, " said Rudy Boonstra, a zoology professor at the University of

Toronto at Scarborough.

" Wild animals experience something similar daily having to find food

while avoiding being killed by predators, " he added in a release.

Boonstra and his colleagues at the University of Western Ontario, the

University of Washington and the University of British Columbia

tested how stress affects the reproduction and survival.

The stress of food and predators can harm both the physiology of the

birds as well as their community structure or demographics, according

to the researchers.

The new findings in sparrows suggest it may be important to target

both food and predators to conserve threatened species, Boonstra

said.

Predators and prey

The team used nets to capture fathers with six-day-old nestlings,

noted the number and condition of the young, collected blood samples

and then released the birds unharmed.

Researchers also measured levels of the stress hormone corticosterone

and the amount of an energy molecule used for flight.

Unfed birds under high pressure from predators had the highest stress

levels, while fed birds living with few predators had the lowest, the

team reported in this month's issue of Proceedings of the Royal

Society B: Biological Sciences.

Previously, Boonstra studied the effect of food and predators on

populations of snowshoe hares.

He found reducing predator pressure doubled hare population densities

and adding food tripled densities. Doing both led to an 11-fold

increase, implying an additive effect.

The research was funded by Natural Sciences and Engineering Research

Council of Canada and the U.S. National Science Foundation.

Written by CBC News Online staff

Cheers, Alan Pater

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