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And what is this supposed to mean? I feel bad for both men, but this isn't

evidence of anything by any stretch of the imagination.

JR

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From: Rodney [mailto:perspect1111@...]

Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:42 PM

Subject: [ ] Mc's CEO has Cancer

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Hi JR:

" What is this supposed to mean? "

The point that came home to me from this article is the irony of it.

The CEOs of a company that for a very long time has promoted the

consumption of products which clearly increase the incidence of heart

disease and colon cancer, are coming down with them.

No one can prove the specific causes in their cases (nor anyone

else's case either, for that matter). Indeed they may have had the

good sense never to eat at outlets selling their company's products.

As you will be aware, the evidence is that a low fat diet reduces the

incidence of colon cancer by 50% (Giovannucci, Willett, Draser);

avoidance of red meats reduces incidence of colon cancer by 63%

(PMID: 10479227); high folic acid intake - something no doubt

deficient in Mcs fare until the flour from which they make the

buns came to be fortified with it by government edict - reduces colon

cancer incidence by 75% (Glynn and Albanes); the 'lack of emphasis'

at Mcdonalds on fruit and vegetables, many of which have been shown

to have a protective effect against colon cancer (cruciferous

vegetables as one example show 46% protection - I have mislaid my

source for that one); ..................

You are right it doesn't prove anything. But it is ironic, and

perhaps cases like this may help raise the awareness of those who

read the article, to the scientific evidence regarding the food-

related causes of heart disease and cancer. So noting this possible

connection may even be helpful.

Rodney.

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> And what is this supposed to mean? I feel bad for both men, but

this isn't

> evidence of anything by any stretch of the imagination.

>

> JR

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Rodney [mailto:perspect1111@y...]

> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:42 PM

>

> Subject: [ ] Mc's CEO has Cancer

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>

>

> Hi folks:

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Actually, the last coupla CEOs at McD's (the prior suddenly dropped

dead of heart attack at a young age, IIRC), have boosted the company's

sales by changing the menu to include more salads and other relatively

healthy dining options......

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 20:49:46 -0000, Rodney <perspect1111@...> wrote:

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>

> Hi JR:

>

> " What is this supposed to mean? "

>

> The point that came home to me from this article is the irony of it.

> The CEOs of a company that for a very long time has promoted the

> consumption of products which clearly increase the incidence of heart

> disease and colon cancer, are coming down with them.

>

> No one can prove the specific causes in their cases (nor anyone

> else's case either, for that matter). Indeed they may have had the

> good sense never to eat at outlets selling their company's products.

>

> As you will be aware, the evidence is that a low fat diet reduces the

> incidence of colon cancer by 50% (Giovannucci, Willett, Draser);

> avoidance of red meats reduces incidence of colon cancer by 63%

> (PMID: 10479227); high folic acid intake - something no doubt

> deficient in Mcs fare until the flour from which they make the

> buns came to be fortified with it by government edict - reduces colon

> cancer incidence by 75% (Glynn and Albanes); the 'lack of emphasis'

> at Mcdonalds on fruit and vegetables, many of which have been shown

> to have a protective effect against colon cancer (cruciferous

> vegetables as one example show 46% protection - I have mislaid my

> source for that one); ..................

>

> You are right it doesn't prove anything. But it is ironic, and

> perhaps cases like this may help raise the awareness of those who

> read the article, to the scientific evidence regarding the food-

> related causes of heart disease and cancer. So noting this possible

> connection may even be helpful.

>

> Rodney.

>

>

> > And what is this supposed to mean? I feel bad for both men, but

> this isn't

> > evidence of anything by any stretch of the imagination.

> >

> > JR

> >

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> > From: Rodney [mailto:perspect1111@y...]

> > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:42 PM

> >

> > Subject: [ ] Mc's CEO has Cancer

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi folks:

> >

> > " Mc's CEO steps down to battle cancer

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Hi :

I do not have much experience of eating at Mcs since I

discovered, a very long time ago, that even their 'apple pies' were

DEEP FRIED!!! That was the last straw for me.

And after discovering that of all the items on the menu at Burger

King the one that contained THE HIGHEST percentage of calories as fat

was one of their salads - when you put dressing on it, as pretty much

everyone does, of course.

Rodney.

> > > And what is this supposed to mean? I feel bad for both men, but

> > this isn't

> > > evidence of anything by any stretch of the imagination.

> > >

> > > JR

> > >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: Rodney [mailto:perspect1111@y...]

> > > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:42 PM

> > >

> > > Subject: [ ] Mc's CEO has Cancer

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi folks:

> > >

> > > " Mc's CEO steps down to battle cancer

> >

> >

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Hi Rodney,

Old news, their pies are said to be baked now. They don't appear to be greasy. they have great coffee and clean restrooms usually. And they give anyone who has survived their fare until 65 a Sr's discount on coffee. They have a pretty good (and cheap) caesar salad and you can leave off the mayo. They have a grilled chicken sandwich, chicken and salad combo's.

And they NEVER fried their potatoes in animal fat, much to chagrin of the vegans. They used hydrogenated fat - Crisco type, which is much worse, IMO.

I'm just biased, I guess, because they space their restaurants along the highway at pee breaks.

And finally, it's the calories that count, IMO.

Regards.

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Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:20 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Mc's CEO has Cancer

Hi :I do not have much experience of eating at Mcs since I discovered, a very long time ago, that even their 'apple pies' were DEEP FRIED!!! That was the last straw for me.And after discovering that of all the items on the menu at Burger King the one that contained THE HIGHEST percentage of calories as fat was one of their salads - when you put dressing on it, as pretty much everyone does, of course. Rodney.

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Agreed. McD's and like establishments have been particularly unhealthy

places to eat, as a rule. In the past I occasionally dined at the

's salad bar, but never used dressing myself. Unfortunately,

consumers are not blameless in their preference of unhealthy fast

food, IMO. In any event, I don't know what the dietary history of

either of the recent McD's CEOs so I don't know if their unfortunate

health problems can be attributed to McD's fare in any way.

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 22:20:56 -0000, Rodney <perspect1111@...> wrote:

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>

> Hi :

>

> I do not have much experience of eating at Mcs since I

> discovered, a very long time ago, that even their 'apple pies' were

> DEEP FRIED!!! That was the last straw for me.

>

> And after discovering that of all the items on the menu at Burger

> King the one that contained THE HIGHEST percentage of calories as fat

> was one of their salads - when you put dressing on it, as pretty much

> everyone does, of course.

>

> Rodney.

>

>

> > > > And what is this supposed to mean? I feel bad for both men, but

> > > this isn't

> > > > evidence of anything by any stretch of the imagination.

> > > >

> > > > JR

> > > >

> > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > From: Rodney [mailto:perspect1111@y...]

> > > > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:42 PM

> > > >

> > > > Subject: [ ] Mc's CEO has Cancer

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi folks:

> > > >

> > > > " Mc's CEO steps down to battle cancer

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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The irony is obvious but I don't find any amusement or lessons here. While I

would love to blame the food industry for my previous bad diet, the simple

reality is I (we?) choose to eat what we eat. The food industry will pander

to our weaknesses but we can't blame them for our choices.

I shouldn't defend Mcs, since I am a stockholder. True they have made

changes recently but I suspect the changes are more reflective of changing

" want's " from the buying public. Their sales are up and I won't guess

whether it is due to or in spite of offering healthier food, but few major

corporations are that altruistic. You rarely gain market share offering

foods that people don't want.

They are no doubt painfully aware of the consequences of diet at the highest

levels, who knows where they as a company will end up. I haven't eaten at a

micky d's in many years and will sell the stock when it stops going up.

JR

-----Original Message-----

From: Rodney [mailto:perspect1111@...]

Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 2:50 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Mc's CEO has Cancer

Hi JR:

" What is this supposed to mean? "

The point that came home to me from this article is the irony of it.

The CEOs of a company that for a very long time has promoted the

consumption of products which clearly increase the incidence of heart

disease and colon cancer, are coming down with them.

No one can prove the specific causes in their cases (nor anyone

else's case either, for that matter). Indeed they may have had the

good sense never to eat at outlets selling their company's products.

As you will be aware, the evidence is that a low fat diet reduces the

incidence of colon cancer by 50% (Giovannucci, Willett, Draser);

avoidance of red meats reduces incidence of colon cancer by 63%

(PMID: 10479227); high folic acid intake - something no doubt

deficient in Mcs fare until the flour from which they make the

buns came to be fortified with it by government edict - reduces colon

cancer incidence by 75% (Glynn and Albanes); the 'lack of emphasis'

at Mcdonalds on fruit and vegetables, many of which have been shown

to have a protective effect against colon cancer (cruciferous

vegetables as one example show 46% protection - I have mislaid my

source for that one); ..................

You are right it doesn't prove anything. But it is ironic, and

perhaps cases like this may help raise the awareness of those who

read the article, to the scientific evidence regarding the food-

related causes of heart disease and cancer. So noting this possible

connection may even be helpful.

Rodney.

--- In , " " <crjohnr@b...>

wrote:

> And what is this supposed to mean? I feel bad for both men, but

this isn't

> evidence of anything by any stretch of the imagination.

>

> JR

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Rodney [mailto:perspect1111@y...]

> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:42 PM

>

> Subject: [ ] Mc's CEO has Cancer

>

>

>

>

> Hi folks:

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> " Mc's CEO steps down to battle cancer

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The pies may be baked, but seems like they may as well be fried given

all the fat & trans fat content. But hey, there's no cholesterol! :-)

http://snipurl.com/ay5u

Rodney wrote:

> I do not have much experience of eating at Mcs since I

> discovered, a very long time ago, that even their 'apple pies' were

> DEEP FRIED!!! That was the last straw for me.

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Sure, the trans fat threat is true of many prepared products. They might even be improved deep fried in oil. Hydrogenated fat DOESN'T SPOIL. Ergo, they won't/can't quit using it. All we can do is not eat it.

I read where Canada is considering outlawing it. Canada is cold.

Regards.

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Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:01 PM

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The pies may be baked, but seems like they may as well be fried given all the fat & trans fat content. But hey, there's no cholesterol! :-)http://snipurl.com/ay5uRodney wrote:> I do not have much experience of eating at Mcs since I > discovered, a very long time ago, that even their 'apple pies' were > DEEP FRIED!!! That was the last straw for me.>

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> I read where Canada is considering

> outlawing it. Canada is cold.

The snow storms always stop at the border, but I love taking Mc's

take-out back to the igloo... Actually, it's warm in Edmonton right now.

There's still colour in the city, rather than the grey of winter, and it

will remain so as long as we stay on the plus side of the thermostat.

There's usually snow by Thanksgiving, but October was actually quite

pleasant. {grins}

Seriously, I personally hope we do outlaw transfats -- there's no purpose in

them and their health risks when other equally viable alternatives are

available. Many major food producers in Canada have already switched over

to stay ahead of the potential for this stuff to be removed from the food

chain.

Cheers,

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Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:01 PM

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The pies may be baked, but seems like they may as well be fried given

all the fat & trans fat content. But hey, there's no cholesterol! :-)

http://snipurl.com/ay5u

Rodney wrote:

> I do not have much experience of eating at Mcs since I

> discovered, a very long time ago, that even their 'apple pies' were

> DEEP FRIED!!! That was the last straw for me.

>

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I agree with the law, FWIW.

We lived in Seattle for a while and I noticed that the ground was cold. Everything set on the kitchen counter migrated to 40 deg. We could leave tea out of the frig several days and it wouldn't spoil. Not so in Texas.

Not making fun of Canada. Here, stuff can spoil before you get to eat it, especially things like breads. Beef is the only meat that doesn't have added salt. A few local chickens maybe don't have salt, but any meats at Walmart are packed in salt.

The law won't fly here. They'll have to add other preservatives and I'm not sure I want those, either.

I think American mfgs need to use hydrog fat just to keep the machinery lubricated.

We just have to quit eating it.

Regards.

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Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:11 AM

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> I read where Canada is considering> outlawing it. Canada is cold.The snow storms always stop at the border, but I love taking Mc'stake-out back to the igloo... Actually, it's warm in Edmonton right now.There's still colour in the city, rather than the grey of winter, and itwill remain so as long as we stay on the plus side of the thermostat.There's usually snow by Thanksgiving, but October was actually quitepleasant. {grins}Seriously, I personally hope we do outlaw transfats -- there's no purpose inthem and their health risks when other equally viable alternatives areavailable. Many major food producers in Canada have already switched overto stay ahead of the potential for this stuff to be removed from the foodchain.Cheers,

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> Not making fun of Canada.

All in good fun.

> Here, stuff can spoil before you get

> to eat it, especially things like

> breads. Beef is the only meat that

> doesn't have added salt.

I do find this curious. As I'm fond of mentioning, I spend my summers in

Greece, and I've never noticed a problem with getting fresh foods (without

preservatives, often in an open market), even when the temperatures exceed

40 Celsius (anyone know that in Fahrenheit? I'm sure it rivals anything in

Texas). In general, I'd imagine Greeks would oppose any kind of added fat

other than olive oil, and food is taken *very* seriously there... Then

again, distribution networks don't necessarily have to spread as far.

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That's about 108 deg F. Here 98 deg.

Fresh stuff is kept "fresh" with ice water sprays, in A/C environment.

What I observed is a diff in ground temperature. You won't have a good basement here, eg, unless you want it 72deg. I don't think it's just the air temp involved here. Latitude perhaps?

I have to keep my fish oil caps in the frig. It's obvious when they spoil.

I'm not against the law. I don't eat most of that stuff anyway, if it were made with oil (Neuman's does make "Oreos" with oil). Any oil. I inquired once why they put so much sodium in bread, after all, a yeast rising product and the answer was they couldn't keep it on the shelf if no salt. We keep what breads we buy in the frig.

I am seeing more RTE cereals no sodium added.

How much does spoilage enter into the health equation? Can they argue that as a good thing?

Regards.

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Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 12:37 PM

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> Not making fun of Canada.All in good fun.> Here, stuff can spoil before you get> to eat it, especially things like> breads. Beef is the only meat that> doesn't have added salt.I do find this curious. As I'm fond of mentioning, I spend my summers inGreece, and I've never noticed a problem with getting fresh foods (withoutpreservatives, often in an open market), even when the temperatures exceed40 Celsius (anyone know that in Fahrenheit? I'm sure it rivals anything inTexas). In general, I'd imagine Greeks would oppose any kind of added fatother than olive oil, and food is taken *very* seriously there... Thenagain, distribution networks don't necessarily have to spread as far.Cheers,

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Hi JW:

Have you tried keeping bread in the FREEZER rather than the fridge?

It seems to me to keep in much better shape much longer than if kept

in the fridge. It can be toasted straight from frozen, or a couple

of slices can be unthawed in the microwave for ~12 seconds on HI.

After this treatment it tastes better to me than fresh!

Rodney.

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Microwave will somewhat restore slightly stale break by releasing internal

moisture, of course this only works to a point. I can't remember the last

time I ate bread. Used to make my own bagels but eventually even they

dropped below acceptable bang for the calorie thresholds.

JR

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Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:37 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Mc's CEO has Cancer

Hi JW:

Have you tried keeping bread in the FREEZER rather than the fridge?

It seems to me to keep in much better shape much longer than if kept

in the fridge. It can be toasted straight from frozen, or a couple

of slices can be unthawed in the microwave for ~12 seconds on HI.

After this treatment it tastes better to me than fresh!

Rodney.

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................ We keep what breads we buy in the frig .........

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Yes we do just that. She does, ie.

What we do mostly is make low sodium banana bread with ground whole kernel wheat. Make 2-3 and freeze. Use applesauce in place of oil. Don't eat much store bot stuff. Even muffins have hydrog fat.

Between straining for hydrog fat, corn syrup or sodium, it leaves nothing except non-sugared mini-wheats.

Regards.

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Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:37 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Mc's CEO has Cancer

Hi JW:Have you tried keeping bread in the FREEZER rather than the fridge? It seems to me to keep in much better shape much longer than if kept in the fridge. It can be toasted straight from frozen, or a couple of slices can be unthawed in the microwave for ~12 seconds on HI. After this treatment it tastes better to me than fresh!Rodney.

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In all this digression, it occurs to me that we have overlooked other stuff like kidney, liver diseases. We dwell on avoiding heart disease, even discussed prostate, but the reality is there are a LOT of people on dialysis, and living with other diseases, like cancer.

In other CR groups I hear of heart muscle loss, anorexia, osteoporosis, but how about damage to the liver caused by low body fat? Is that a problem? How about kidney damage? How about being so underweight, some jokester puts you in a garbage can? There are tradeoffs we need to consider.

We think we can get a new kidney if ours fail, but the reality is that most of those patients will live on dialysis - not fun but it beats the alternative. I don't think it's good for extending life or squaring the curve.

How many of these CEO's are living with dialysis, or liver problems and that shortens their life, or effects their heart? How many drink too much?

A successful CEO may be one that can pass stress onto subordinates. In that regard we are different from all the other animals we test. Other animals do not build high rise apartments to a schedule, drive cars thru Houston, work in fields laden with pesticides and spores grown on animal feces. It's difficult thinking that CR can help those folks extend lifespan.

So how do we "cure" (deal with) anorexia? Heart muscle loss? Liver damage due to CR if indeed we suffer those if we go too far? All I know is go slow in weight loss -really slow - like a pound a month or less depending on how overweight one is. I might switch to 1 pound in 2 months as I approach my insurance table nominal weight. Maybe 1 # per year after that.

Why hurry? (I'm still working on my new D-in-law's fabulous dressing. One cup per day)

Regards.

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From: Rodney

Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:20 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Mc's CEO has Cancer

Hi :I do not have much experience of eating at Mcs since I discovered, a very long time ago, that even their 'apple pies' were DEEP FRIED!!! That was the last straw for me.And after discovering that of all the items on the menu at Burger King the one that contained THE HIGHEST percentage of calories as fat was one of their salads - when you put dressing on it, as pretty much everyone does, of course. Rodney.

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Hi JW:

You raise an important point here, I think.

While I am trying to gradually accumulate data that may help avoid

the major (most 'popular') diseases (the list of which is, of course,

very well known), I have no real knowledge of the problems to which

those on CRON may be especially prone.

You mention muscle loss, anorexia, osteoporosis and liver disease

caused by excessively low BF%.

It seems to me that if there is someone here competent to do it, a

file on the topic would be very helpful. But I wonder whether the

worldwide sample of people on CRON is so small that no one really

knows which diseases especially affect people like us.

It seems like something we would all really benefit from knowing.

Any more suggestions, folks? Or offers to put together a list?

Rodney.

--- In , " jwwright " <jwwright@e...>

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> In all this digression, it occurs to me that we have overlooked

other stuff like kidney, liver diseases. We dwell on avoiding heart

disease, even discussed prostate, but the reality is there are a LOT

of people on dialysis, and living with other diseases, like cancer.

>

> In other CR groups I hear of heart muscle loss, anorexia,

osteoporosis, but how about damage to the liver caused by low body

fat? Is that a problem? How about kidney damage? How about being so

underweight, some jokester puts you in a garbage can? There are

tradeoffs we need to consider.

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Recent evidence of heart muscle loss was a comment about Ben Best who has a website. I wondered how that showed itself but apparently he decided to eat more food. And I have no idea else or how much. (first incident I've heard).

In a small group maybe 3000 people, mostly younger than me, I thought it odd I would hear about several with osteoporosis/osteopenia. Even in the classic tv "Nutrition" series (PBSYOU, ch377), Young is reported as a little problem with bone loss.

In addition, Saul, Lynn, Dean, are quick remembrances.

As for anorexia, one case, and it has occurred to me that it may be a failure of the liver to make certain enzymes or cholesterol. I know little about that process as yet. And no cirrhosis has been reported to my knowledge.

These are anecdotal, but interesting to me. My aunt died of cirrhosis (56yo), arguably cancer or malnutrition. She had become a health food fanatic before folks knew much about it.

What do we know about glutathione the supplement as an aid to liver?

Regards.

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From: Rodney

Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 11:27 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Mc's CEO has Cancer

Hi JW:You raise an important point here, I think.While I am trying to gradually accumulate data that may help avoid the major (most 'popular') diseases (the list of which is, of course, very well known), I have no real knowledge of the problems to which those on CRON may be especially prone. You mention muscle loss, anorexia, osteoporosis and liver disease caused by excessively low BF%.It seems to me that if there is someone here competent to do it, a file on the topic would be very helpful. But I wonder whether the worldwide sample of people on CRON is so small that no one really knows which diseases especially affect people like us. It seems like something we would all really benefit from knowing. Any more suggestions, folks? Or offers to put together a list?Rodney.> In all this digression, it occurs to me that we have overlooked other stuff like kidney, liver diseases. We dwell on avoiding heart disease, even discussed prostate, but the reality is there are a LOT of people on dialysis, and living with other diseases, like cancer. > > In other CR groups I hear of heart muscle loss, anorexia, osteoporosis, but how about damage to the liver caused by low body fat? Is that a problem? How about kidney damage? How about being so underweight, some jokester puts you in a garbage can? There are tradeoffs we need to consider.

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Hi All,

Do trans-fat rules work? The below seems to respond: " Yes. "

C B C . C A N e w s - F u l l S t o r y :

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French fry maker to drop trans fat

Last Updated Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:55:00 EST

SUMMERSIDE, P.E.I. - Cavendish Farms says it will start using non-

hydrogenated vegetable oil in all of its products in an effort to

reduce unhealthy trans fats.

Scientists say trans fats are a serious contributor to heart disease.

Food processors are trying to find alternatives to hydrogenated

vegetable oil for french fries.

INDEPTH: Banning trans fats

The news comes on the heels of a federal government motion that calls

for regulations to limit the amount of trans fats in food sold in

Canada. The company said it had already started on plans to eliminate

trans fats from its products before MPs voted for the limits.

FROM NOV. 24, 2004: MP's trans fat comments no small deal

" As the new information became available on trans fats, it sparked us

to look forward to the horizon and spark changes in response to that

consumer demand, " said Buckler, vice-president of marketing

for Cavendish Farms.

Cavendish Farms announced all of its North American products, both

retail and fast-food, will be free of trans fat within the year.

The company's main competitor, McCain Foods, switched to non-

hydrogenated vegetable oil last year. McCain is still working on

switching its fast food clients to trans fat-free methods of frying.

Trans fats are found in about 40 per cent of foods on the shelves of

grocery stores, but finding alternatives to hydrogenated oils poses a

challenge to the food processing industry.

Reading fat labels

" Others have tried and still have not found the alternative because

there's also a goal to maintain the overall quality and acceptability

to the consumer, " said Carolyn O'Brien of Food and Consumer Products

of Canada, which represents 150 food companies in Canada.

Dieticians say it's important to pay attention to " Nutrition Facts "

label, which will soon be required by law on all packaged foods. The

label lists trans fat as well as saturated fat, both of which are

linked to heart disease.

" When you're looking at a product that claims zero trans fats, you

also want to look at saturated fats, " said Pam Balderston, a

registered dietician. " Manufacturers are promising that they won't

take the trans fat out and just add more saturated fats. "

Health Canada will be forming a task force trying to find

alternatives to trans fats, with the goal of banning them altogether.

So far, Denmark is the only country in the world to have banned trans

fats.

Written by CBC News Online staff

Cheers, Alan Pater

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> > discovered, a very long time ago, that even their 'apple pies'

were

> > DEEP FRIED!!! That was the last straw for me.

> >

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