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Hello, I thought I would throw in my two cents here. I, too, exercise

daily. This is a long standing habit for me, and the most effective

way I have found of battling what happens to my body that I can't

control. On bad days, this means I stretch on a soft mat in the

floor, and drive my dogs to the park so I can throw the ball for

them. On better days, I walk for an hour with my dogs, the pace

depends on my pain and fatigue levels. The onset of my illness

coincided with a severe car accident, so from day one I was forced to

do very painful PT, and stuck to a strict regimen in order to heal. I

guess I learned then to push very gently past the pain, in order to

help myself. Some days it took all day to finish my two hour PT

regimen. But then I celebrated the fact that I did it at all. I also

found that the exercise helps tremendously with the depression and

anger I felt at losing the life I had. 9 years later, I still grieve

my losses, and give myself plenty of time to honor my grief and

anger. I have also reached the place that I can honestly applaud

myself for allowing my body to have days off when it asks for them. I

Celebrate the fact that I have learned to respect my body and its

wishes. I Celebrate the small and slow things I DO accomplish on

those bad days, even if it's sitting up long enough to eat my soup. I

have learned from the days I can't get out of the recliner, that I

can honor and celebrate Everything I do that does still make my life

mine. During the worst times, I make collages, cutting pictures,

quotes, whatever out of magazines, sticking them on cardboard. This

helps me to express my anger, frustration, and self-pity, as well as

my dreams, goals, and ideas for making it better. My attitude towards

life is much more positive now than it ever was before illness. I

decided it was up to me to choose my future, even though I couldn't

make my body well, I could choose to be happy anyway. That is the key

for me, celebrating everything that is positive in my life, and

venting and moving on past the negative. Those little daily

celebrations make life much better.

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,I so admire you. I have had fibro so long now and I have not reached your level of acceptance. I too exercise. I have two horses and have ridden all my life. I was a very serious competitor but that is not in my future anymore it would seem,although my filly is of international quality. Only on the very,very worst days do I not move. As I read what you wrote I start to have this panic. Panic that if I am like you,responsible,practicing "Radical Acceptance" and at peace all will be lost for me. I will lose my dreams { Ride in Spain with the great Classical Dressage masters} and goals. I will be on the couch most days. That it is all to easy for me to give in to the

pain,exhaustion and tears. This is not rational I know. I am working on a more stress reduced life,a less complicated life. I work on this with my therapist.{ She does not know much about Fibro so although she is a great DBT therapist I am not sure she understand the Fibro piece.} I am most afraid I lie to myself. That I will never be able to do what I dream of and that I have to accept it and be happy if I can just get up and get the mail. I am so terrified I can barely breath. SueFrom: Hilyer <mountnsage@...>To:

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Hello, I thought I would throw in my two cents here. I, too, exercise

daily. This is a long standing habit for me, and the most effective

way I have found of battling what happens to my body that I can't

control. On bad days, this means I stretch on a soft mat in the

floor, and drive my dogs to the park so I can throw the ball for

them. On better days, I walk for an hour with my dogs, the pace

depends on my pain and fatigue levels. The onset of my illness

coincided with a severe car accident, so from day one I was forced to

do very painful PT, and stuck to a strict regimen in order to heal. I

guess I learned then to push very gently past the pain, in order to

help myself. Some days it took all day to finish my two hour PT

regimen. But then I celebrated the fact that I did it at all. I also

found that the exercise helps tremendously with the depression and

anger I felt at losing the life I had. 9 years later, I still grieve

my losses, and give myself plenty of time to honor my grief and

anger. I have also reached the place that I can honestly applaud

myself for allowing my body to have days off when it asks for them. I

Celebrate the fact that I have learned to respect my body and its

wishes. I Celebrate the small and slow things I DO accomplish on

those bad days, even if it's sitting up long enough to eat my soup. I

have learned from the days I can't get out of the recliner, that I

can honor and celebrate Everything I do that does still make my life

mine. During the worst times, I make collages, cutting pictures,

quotes, whatever out of magazines, sticking them on cardboard. This

helps me to express my anger, frustration, and self-pity, as well as

my dreams, goals, and ideas for making it better. My attitude towards

life is much more positive now than it ever was before illness. I

decided it was up to me to choose my future, even though I couldn't

make my body well, I could choose to be happy anyway. That is the key

for me, celebrating everything that is positive in my life, and

venting and moving on past the negative. Those little daily

celebrations make life much better.

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H. I had no idea that you had neuropathy. I had not seen that in your posts. Where did you get your testing for that? Did you have specific testing for small fiber neuropathy due to dysautonomia? I am very interested in this and would like more info from you on this. I rarely meet someone with this peculiar, devastating and uncommon disorder.

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Our neighbor gave us hers it didn't help her it is small egg shaped

she got it at Dillard's on sale. we have 8 year old pillow top mattress

and I still ache. Read an article in FM NET NEWS and it appears I need

more pillows near me one under my Hips and spine I have tons of more

bone loss in my hips and lower spine than upper spine then one in

between my knees but I move around alot so much too i ache then I toss

and get comfy again. even sometimes sleeping on my stomach. But I have

heard they are good too same thing with cervical pillows. i just spend

my big bad ugly monster dragon flare time in the recliner with the

heater on not doing much but then I also move around get something to

eat too. Not much of staying in bed even when I am sick even when my

hair hurts. Heidi

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Hi , I never mentioned that I had neuropathy because I thought this was mainly a group for people with Fibromyalgia. I don't know much about the neuropathy and haven't really checked into this further because of this flare that I've been in. If you recall all of this is very new to me having been diagnosed within the year.

I have learned to get all my reports when I go to the doctor's because of how many I've gone to, so that I have them for the next doctor so there's no guess work. The report I have in front of me from the last Neurologist I saw in July reads as such: Impression is, Primary Sensory Neuropathy and states that the Neuropathy will get worse over time. He had ordered a Blood Panel of B12, folate, SPEP, IPEP, etc is all it says in his report.

Hope this helps . Like I said I don't know too much about the Neuropathy, can you tell me more about this? All I know is that I have loss of feeling, I do get alot of tingling though. Soft hugs to you H.

From: kmtrs1@... <kmtrs1@...>Subject: Re: Re: a couple of odd thingsdominie@groups .comDate: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 2:55 PM

Heidi: Good for you on the not staying in bed. It just makes our symptoms worse. I force myself out of bed after 8 hours regardless of how miserable I feel. Not easy, but necessary. Depression can really bring you down and the pain gets worse the longer you lie there in my experience. S. Re: a couple of odd things

Our neighbor gave us hers it didn't help her it is small egg shaped she got it at Dillard's on sale. we have 8 year old pillow top mattress and I still ache. Read an article in FM NET NEWS and it appears I need more pillows near me one under my Hips and spine I have tons of more bone loss in my hips and lower spine than upper spine then one in between my knees but I move around alot so much too i ache then I toss and get comfy again. even sometimes sleeping on my stomach. But I have heard they are good too same thing with cervical pillows. i just spend my big bad ugly monster dragon flare time in the recliner with the heater on not doing much but then I also move around get something to eat too. Not much of staying in bed even when I am sick even when my hair hurts. Heidi

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Thank you and as I stated prior to this, I am in a very emotional state, including confusion, frustration, depression, no confidence in these doctors, chronic daily pain, etc., so I apologize if I did take it the wrong way. We are all suffering in different but similar ways and like you my

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that in your posts.? Where did you get your testing for that?? Did

you have specific testing for small fiber neuropathy due to

dysautonomia?? I am very interested in this and would like more info

from you on this.? I rarely meet someone with this peculiar,

devastating and uncommon disorder.

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H. I have recently been diagnosed with peripheral neuropathy, I am on 600mg of gabapentin at bed time for it. So far it is working. I had an EMG done is how it was diagnosed, as I had constant burning and tingling in my legs even at rest. I can remember that 20 years ago there was no treatment for it all. The Dr who did the test said that Lyrica or gabapentin were the treatments for it. Sandie -- Re: a couple of odd things Our neighbor gave us hers it didn't help her it is small egg shaped she got it at Dillard's on sale. we have 8 year old pillow top mattress and I still ache. Read an article in FM NET NEWS and it appears I need more pillows near me one under my Hips and spine I have tons of more bone loss in my hips and lower spine than upper spine then one in between my knees but I move around alot so much too i ache then I toss and get comfy again. even sometimes sleeping on my stomach. But I have heard they are good too same thing with cervical pillows. i just spend my big bad ugly monster dragon flare time in the recliner with the heater on not doing much but then I also move around get something to eat too. Not much of staying in bed even when I am sick even when my hair hurts. Heidi McCain or Obama? Stay up to date on the latest from the campaign trail with AOL News. McCain or Obama? Stay up to date on the latest from the campaign trail with AOL News. McCain or Obama? Stay up to date on the latest from the campaign trail with AOL News. Head prepared by Sweet Assembled by Sandie Oct 2008

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Hi Sandie, I've tried Lyrica and Gabapentin and couldn't tolerate either, for the pain and tingling. I seem to not tolerate most meds with bad side effects either by making me very dizzy, zombie like, nauseous or they just don't work. At present I'm not on anything for the Neuropathy. I am prone to vertigo though and have to carry medication for that. Thank you very much for the information. I appreciate any information provided. Soft Hugs

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From: memommy1947 <MEMOMMY1947@...>Subject: Re: Re: a couple of odd thingsdominie Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:00 AM

H. I have recently been diagnosed with peripheral neuropathy, I am on 600mg of gabapentin at bed time for it. So far it is working. I had an EMG done is how it was diagnosed, as I had constant burning and tingling in my legs even at rest.

I can remember that 20 years ago there was no treatment for it all. The Dr who did the test said that Lyrica or gabapentin were the treatments for it.

Sandie

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Our neighbor gave us hers it didn't help her it is small egg shaped she got it at Dillard's on sale. we have 8 year old pillow top mattress and I still ache. Read an article in FM NET NEWS and it appears I need more pillows near me one under my Hips and spine I have tons of more bone loss in my hips and lower spine than upper spine then one in between my knees but I move around alot so much too i ache then I toss and get comfy again. even sometimes sleeping on my stomach. But I have heard they are good too same thing with cervical pillows. i just spend my big bad ugly monster dragon flare time in the recliner with the heater on not doing much but then I also move around get something to eat too. Not much of staying in bed even when I am sick even when my hair hurts. Heidi

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Sue,

I very much understand your feelings. It is with the help of a very,

very skilled therapist, who is also a CFS, Chronic Pain patient that

I have gotten here. Rest assured, I still have angry, fearful days in

which I rage against the body that has let me down, and declare I

will never accept this " life sentence " because I WILL BEAT IT!!! When

I have those days, I express that feeling just as strongly as the

happiness I have on other days. I, too, have dreams that are no

longer possibilities. I will never backpack in the Beartooth

Mountains again. That DOES NOT mean I can't hire a horse-packer to

haul me and my stuff up that mountain, so I can sit in the wilderness

and feel the serenity. I will never ride a bicycle across Europe.

That doesn't mean I can't go there and have just as much fun doing

other things. I have accepted what is real, that my body has

said " no " , and I cannot change that no matter how stubborn or

determined I am. I simply have learned to revise my dreams, and

appreciate that there are a thousand other dreams I CAN still attain,

and thousands of things I have learned, seen, and done that I never

would have if it were not for my illness. I have learned how to sew,

knit, make jewelery, quilts, and dog stuff in all the newfound " spare

time " I have. In the beginning, I saw these as wasted hours. I had to

learn to see it differently. I had to learn, as the saying goes, to

accept the things I cannot change, change the things I can, and

recognise the difference, so I am not still banging my head on the

wall of defeat. I have learned I have every right to be angry, sad,

angry, depressed, and angry about my losses. I was forced to change

careers, work fewer hours, take narcotics on a daily basis, accept

that I cannot do what I want or expect from myself on a daily basis.

But the reality is that I cannot change these things, or help me a

bit to be angry about it. It does help me to see the remaining

possibilities as a positive force in my life, as there are many, many

possibilities left for me, even from a wheelchair if that is the

outcome. You cannot always choose how you feel on any given day, but

you can learn to change your focus, accept what is real, and make

lemonade out of your lemons. You may not be able to follow all of

your dreams, but if you cannot ride with the masters, you can still

breed top quality horses, and give them the ground training to go on

to those top circuits. You can still teach others to ride at that

level. Your dreams may have to be adjusted a bit, and that is a huge

loss for you to greive, but if you greive it well, you can find joy

in new and unexpected places. You may even find things inside

yourself that you never knew were there... Bless you, and hang in

there. Peace comes to those who seek it. Gentle Hugs,

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> I so admire you. I have had fibro so long now and I have not

reached your level of acceptance. I too exercise. I have two horses

and have ridden all my life. I was a very serious competitor but that

is not in my future anymore it would seem,although my filly is of

international quality. Only on the very,very worst days do I not move.

> As I read what you wrote I start to have this panic. Panic that if

I am like you,responsible,practicing " Radical Acceptance " and at

peace all will be lost for me. I will lose my dreams { Ride in Spain

with the great Classical Dressage masters} and goals. I will be on

the couch most days. That it is all to easy for me to give in to the

pain,exhaustion and tears. This is not rational I know. I am working

on a more stress reduced life,a less complicated life. I work on this

with my therapist.{ She does not know much about Fibro so although

she is a great DBT therapist I am not sure she understand the Fibro

piece.} I am most afraid I lie to myself. That I will never be able

to do what I dream of and that I have to accept it and be happy if I

can just get up and get the mail. I am so terrified I can barely

breath.

> Sue

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Hi! I could not take Lyrica as well. I was dizzy,I felt so tired that I was worried I was going to go into a coma! My eye sight got very bad,My hands & face became tingling,etc...Matter of Fact,I don't feel that my eye sight ever did go completely back to normal. I've had a slight vision problem since,and I never had it before taking Lyrica! So,obviously,I was taken off of it right away. I'm VERY sensitive to meds anyways,so that probably didn't help matters. Thanks & Take Care,Pam.S

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