Re: SAD in an institution

[Guest guest]

My original post meant SAD as in: Standard American Diet. Upon reading

MM's response I realised that the word " sad " equally applies.

Mambo: I don't know about Holland, but here in the U.S. most institutions

and hospitals have a dietitian on board to plan meals. So it is even more

" sad " that such fare is what the dietitian has planned.

on 12/5/2004 9:05 AM, Mambo Mambo at mambomambo@... wrote:

> Hello Francesca and all,

> Here in Holland the health care is considered excellent. Yet they normally

> serve things like 2 slices of white bread, a slice of cheese, a pat of

> butter, pudding, some biscuits, and orange juice or soda for lunch. This is

> normal fare. (!!!!) Even healthy people would get sick on this stuff.

> And to top it off, they often put men with women in the same rooms, even for

> colonoscopies and other indelicate operations where bedpans and potty chairs

> are standard. The men fare better and the women don't sleep for all the

> snoring.

>

> Worse yet, they have an old peoples' home in Amsterdam that overlooks the

> crematorium.

>

> oh oh oh

> MM

[Guest guest]

>> here in the U.S. most institutions

and hospitals have a dietitian on board to plan meals. So it is even more

" sad " that such fare is what the dietitian has planned.

A former intern (RD) called this week. S he is working at NY Presb Hosp and

wanted me to know that their " low sodium " therapeutic diet is set at 3000 mgs.

The IOM now recommends 1200-1500 mgs with 2300 mgs as the upper limit. WHen she

asked about it, she was told that the patients are on BP medications so they can

have more salt in their diet.

Its more than SAD!!

[Guest guest]

My brother who was a neurosurgeon (when he was alive) used to warn me:

" Stay out of hospitals if at all possible. If you weren't that sick when

you went in, you will be by the time you get out " .

on 12/5/2004 11:04 AM, Jeff Novick at jnovick@... wrote:

>>> here in the U.S. most institutions

> and hospitals have a dietitian on board to plan meals. So it is even more

> " sad " that such fare is what the dietitian has planned.

>

> A former intern (RD) called this week. S he is working at NY Presb Hosp and

> wanted me to know that their " low sodium " therapeutic diet is set at 3000 mgs.

> The IOM now recommends 1200-1500 mgs with 2300 mgs as the upper limit. WHen

> she asked about it, she was told that the patients are on BP medications so

> they can have more salt in their diet.

>

> Its more than SAD!!

>

[Guest guest]

An opportunity for one of my favorite urls:

http://www.cce.cornell.edu/food/expfiles/topics/mccormick2/mccormick2overview.html

Point out that if you go into a hospital low sodium, it may be difficult for the head nurse to find an IV vein. That's the only thing I can recall bad about <1500 mgs. Next time I'll pump up before I go in.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff Novick

Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 10:04 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] SAD in an institution

>> here in the U.S. most institutionsand hospitals have a dietitian on board to plan meals. So it is even more"sad" that such fare is what the dietitian has planned.A former intern (RD) called this week. S he is working at NY Presb Hosp and wanted me to know that their "low sodium" therapeutic diet is set at 3000 mgs. The IOM now recommends 1200-1500 mgs with 2300 mgs as the upper limit. WHen she asked about it, she was told that the patients are on BP medications so they can have more salt in their diet.Its more than SAD!!