Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 Hi , I went to a doctor once for a flu shot. It was probably in 1992. He brought his nurse in to talk with me, as well. They spent a lot of time talking me out of it. They sited the case of a Sydney woman who had at that time become paralysed after a flu injection. Even though there had been only the one known case of paralysis - the doctor was adamant - no flu shot! It's probably scared me off...for good. hugs Carlene http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/11/18/do-flu-shots-work-ask-a-vaccine-manufacturer.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 I am a strong advocate for the flu shot. When I was in boot camp in 1966, it was mandatory to get the flu shot. I spent my first leave in bed with the worst case of the flu. I was told not to get another as I was allergic to it. In 1997 I got a real bad case of the flu, that took 2 Months to get over. My Dr that I had then, told me with my asthma, that I needed to start taking the flu shot. When I told him about my reaction, He informed me that it was not made the same way anymore, and was safer. So I started getting them every year, plus I have had the pneumonia vaccine and booster, I have not had the flu or even a cold since I started getting the flu vaccine. Sandie -- Should we get flu shots? http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/11/18/do-flu- shots-work-ask-a-vaccine-manufacturer.aspx Above is a link for a Mercola video regarding the non advisability of getting a flu shot. I found it quite interesting. S. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 I had the same issue with getting a flu shot. Logic says that our immune systems are already weak from fighting infection and you have to ask yourself how much more will the virus already in us warp and evolve if we add the flu to it. I get the flu every year at Christmas and each time I end up somewhat different afterwards in the way that my body reacts to meds and such. Every year after I recover I have a harder time with meds, and some new food allergies are added to the list. I so miss shrimp, by the way, but I'm learning to deal with it. Regarding the oregano, there is this product called Sinu Orego that is a nasal spray. It works really good to get rid of the flu and colds. My 12 year old has been using it for a long time for his allergies and colds and it always gives him good results within 24-72 hours. He will swear by it if you ask him. This is a child who has had nose surgeries and a lifelong affliction of runny noses and pet allergies. THought I would share. Stacie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 I didn't get one last year because I couldn't afford it and was sick for over 2 months. This year I didn't think I could get one - again because of the cost, however I recently had a stay in the hospital where they offered it. I was soooo happy. I've also heard from many hospitals and nurses that there's a super bug going around and I've seen the extra precautions their taking. Constantly wiping things down and giving the germicide cloths to patients almost hourly. I'm so glad I was able to get the shot. I also 'heard' this year's vaccine is a good one - I'm guessing that means the virus hasn't mutated away from this vaccine strain. So...my results of the shot: 1. A little soreness for 2 days at injection site. Usually my whole arm is sore and I can't move it for a week, but the trick I've learned is to rub the heck out of it and massage my arm muscles up and down immediately after the shot. 2. No flu symptoms!!!! I have a very weak immune system too! I may be in the minority here....I may piss some of you off too....But I feel it's everyone's duty to get a flu shot (unless is really truly makes them ill). You're doing your part to not spread the virus to people like me (and most of you) where it can be potentially deadly to get the flu. My 2 cents. Thank you for reading! -Cat Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Cat I whole heartedly agree with you. This super bug going around is all over. My daughter in South Carolina has it, and my girlfriend in Largo, Fl has it. My immune system is weak, and all my Drs say for me to most definitely get it. I move my arm in circles and massage it after injections to help alleviate soreness. The soreness is caused from the immune system fighting off a foreign substance, like it would for any illness, but with the injection the problem is localized in one spot. Sandie -- Re: Should we get flu shots? I didn't get one last year because I couldn't afford it and was sick for over 2 months. This year I didn't think I could get one - again because of the cost, however I recently had a stay in the hospital where they offered it. I was soooo happy. I've also heard from many hospitals and nurses that there's a super bug going around and I've seen the extra precautions their taking. Constantly wiping things down and giving the germicide cloths to patients almost hourly. I'm so glad I was able to get the shot. I also 'heard' this year's vaccine is a good one - I'm guessing that means the virus hasn't mutated away from this vaccine strain. So...my results of the shot: 1. A little soreness for 2 days at injection site. Usually my whole arm is sore and I can't move it for a week, but the trick I've learned is to rub the heck out of it and massage my arm muscles up and down immediately after the shot. 2. No flu symptoms!!!! I have a very weak immune system too! I may be in the minority here....I may piss some of you off too....But I feel it's everyone's duty to get a flu shot (unless is really truly makes them ill). You're doing your part to not spread the virus to people like me (and most of you) where it can be potentially deadly to get the flu. My 2 cents. Thank you for reading! -Cat Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Just a small correction: some of flu vaccine this year still does contain thimerosal (a preservative containing mercury). See: http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/ABOUT/QA/thimerosal.htm Young children are usually given the thimerosal-free version but adults usually get the one with thimerosal. Like , I'm also a nurse and my hospital is really encouraging the vaccine for staff and patients. For a while we had some single-dose syringes without thimerosal for our patients, but then the pharmacy started supplying us with only the multi-dose containers that have the preservative in it. I personally am opting not to get the vaccine this year because I think my weakened immune system can't handle any more challenges. I have viruses, colds, and/or general flu-like malaise really frequently (probably due to FMS/CFIDS), and you're not supposed to get the vaccine when you're sick. I haven't gotten the flu the years I didn't take the vaccine. Debbie TOne site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Got mine today. I have never gotten sick from the shot, I did almost die from the flu when a couple years ago like you I couldn't afford it. As long as I can afford them I will get them. My arm isn't sore at all, I take a couple of tylenols every 6 to 8 hours for 48 hours to combat fever or other side effects and I'm good to go.Darlene From: Ms. Cat <dulcecat@...>Subject: Re: Should we get flu shots?"Dominie FM Group" <dominie >Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 11:19 AM I didn't get one last year because I couldn't afford it and was sick for over 2 months. This year I didn't think I could get one - again because of the cost, however I recently had a stay in the hospital where they offered it. I was soooo happy. I've also heard from many hospitals and nurses that there's a super bug going around and I've seen the extra precautions their taking. Constantly wiping things down and giving the germicide cloths to patients almost hourly. I'm so glad I was able to get the shot. I also 'heard' this year's vaccine is a good one - I'm guessing that means the virus hasn't mutated away from this vaccine strain. So...my results of the shot: 1. A little soreness for 2 days at injection site. Usually my whole arm is sore and I can't move it for a week, but the trick I've learned is to rub the heck out of it and massage my arm muscles up and down immediately after the shot. 2. No flu symptoms!!!! I have a very weak immune system too! I may be in the minority here....I may piss some of you off too....But I feel it's everyone's duty to get a flu shot (unless is really truly makes them ill). You're doing your part to not spread the virus to people like me (and most of you) where it can be potentially deadly to get the flu. My 2 cents. Thank you for reading! -Cat Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Hello, I'm a nurse, with asthma, and have had a flu shot every year for the last fifteen or so. The one year I didn't get the shot, I got the flu badly enough to be admitted to the hospital for two days. The risk of serious side effects is miniscule, but thousands die each year from flu. This years vaccine does not contain any thimerosol, so there are no concerns there either. So far this year, flu seems to be uncommon, but it's only November. > > I am in agreement with the no flu shot group.? I won't get them and worked with a doctor once who wouldn't take them nor his family members.? The studies often show no advantage and I don't want thimerorsal injected into me.? Vacccines aren't as benign as we sometimes think they are. > S. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 ,I think this house already had the flu. Or just a terrible cold that ended up in everone's chest. It lasted so,so long though. With aches and no appetite...My father of course when straight to Pneumonia,he has had three antibiotics and still has fluid.I am glad to hear your comment. I too have asthma and have always gotten a flu shot. Last year I did not and ended up very sick for about three months. It was terrible. I think I am going back to the flu shot. Daughter too. She has asthma.Thanks for the input.SueFrom: Hilyer <mountnsage@...>dominie Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:30:40 AMSubject: Re: Should we get flu shots? Hello, I'm a nurse, with asthma, and have had a flu shot every year for the last fifteen or so. The one year I didn't get the shot, I got the flu badly enough to be admitted to the hospital for two days. The risk of serious side effects is miniscule, but thousands die each year from flu. This years vaccine does not contain any thimerosol, so there are no concerns there either. So far this year, flu seems to be uncommon, but it's only November. > > I am in agreement with the no flu shot group.? I won't get them and worked with a doctor once who wouldn't take them nor his family members.? The studies often show no advantage and I don't want thimerorsal injected into me.? Vacccines aren't as benign as we sometimes think they are. > S. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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