Guest guest Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Hi Francesca: Well as you know from previous discussions here, I am not one who accepts the proposition that white bread can be just absolutely dreadful for health while, at the same time, whole grain bread is just wonderful. The reason of course is that ~82% of whole grain bread is the very same (supposedly dreadful) white flour that white bread is made of. So if white bread is as dreadful as many people would have us believe, then so is whole grain bread. Presumably the same, approximately, applies to the various constituents of the other grains. More likely, imo, is that **starch** is either a neutral but prolific source of empty calories at best; or at worst, a cancer-causing source of empty calories. I don't think it is yet known for sure which. But I do believe it is clear that it is one of the very best sources of empty calories available. For example, take a look at Fitday's analysis of an entire cup of cornstarch. It contains zero of all of the following: potassium, vitamins A, C, D, E, B-6, B-12, thiamine, niacin, riboflavin and folic acid. This cupful contains a mere one third of a GRAM of protein, and less than one fifth of a gram of fat. It does contain very small amounts - 3% or less of the daily values - of the five remaining nutrients Fitday lists. Yet it contains 488 kcalories - about 27% of a day's caloric needs - a ton of calories accompanied by a trace of micronutrients. Here are a couple of articles related to a possible carcinogenic connection. The first from ScienceDaily: " Study Suggests A Possible Link Between High-Starch Diet And Pancreatic Cancer " http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/09/020904073950.htm (After lung, colon, breast and prostate cancers, pancreatic cancer is the next most common. So this is not a minor detail.) Another relatively recent study, that has previously been posted here, showed that mexican women who ate large amounts of carbohydrates had higher breast cancer rates. Of course breast cancer is more common than pancreatic cancer. Their main sources of carbohydrates were reported to be " corn tortillas, fried chips, white bread, and soft drinks " - the first three on that list contain considerable amounts of starch. (See post #14583). I agree that there is no general agreement yet as to whether starch is dangerous beyond its substantial caloric content. But most of us here regard eating foods that are high in caloric content and low in non-calorie nutrients as not beneficial to health, even if they present no suspected cancer risk. And it is clear to me that those who believe whole grain products are so wonderful should be eating the germ and bran only - avoiding the starch - for the benefits usually attributed to whole grain products. Unfortunately it is also *possible* that the results of studies that show benefits of whole grains are confounded by the fact that only people who are quite health-conscious seek out whole grain products. Since these people are also no doubt taking many other steps to preserve their health - not just eating whole grain bread - the benefits they show may simply be provided by those other things they are doing, rather than the whole grain. I do not know whether any studies have made sure this particular wrinkle is controlled for. Although the benefits of the bran component do seem to be pretty clear. There is also the acrylamide/cancer link, where carbohydrates heated to high temperatures create acrylamide which has been shown to cause cancer. The original study was done in Sweden, I believe, and posted here around that time. The study results were subsequently confirmed elsewhere, IIRC. Over the years I have eaten a lot of starch from one source or another. I still eat more than I regard as healthy. I am resolved to reduce it over time. But I will certainly never be able to eliminate it entirely. Rodney. > > > > > Hi : > > > There are some vague hints that starch, despite its very widespread > > use in human nutrition, may not be entirely benign, for reasons in > > addition to its caloric content. And in the mouse CR experiments the > > only material difference between the diets of the control mice and > > the subjects on CR was that the CR mice had starch very nearly > > completely eliminated from their diet. Of course the mice without > > the starch lived 40% longer. So there seems to be no risk associated > > with going without it. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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