Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 you will find that the okinowans eat lots of soy that has been carefulyl fermented over years. not soy products that are just quickly extracted from the beans. _____ From: Jen [mailto:jennydance@...] Sent: Monday, 20 October 2003 8:35 AM Subject: Okinawan diet I have osteoporosis and I am confused on the whole soy issue so from my understanding... osteo is virtually unknown in Okinawa because they consume so much soy phytoestrogens which protect them. I'm confused because Sally contraindicates this and says soy causes osteoporosis... could someone clarify this for me? thanks jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 Jen, in Japan, Okinawans are more famous for their pork consumption than their tofu consumption (I used to live in Japan). As you can see below, Okinawa is often referred to as the island of pork! This site does say that they also eat a lot of tofu but it is almost always combined with pork. Soy advocates like to ignore Okinawan's huge pork consumption! http://www.wonder-okinawa.jp/026/e/pork.html Okinawa - The Island of Pork: Pork appears so frequently in the Okinawan diet that to say " meat " is really to say " pork. " Everything from head to tail is used. As the saying has it, only the " oink " and the toenails go begging. It is no exaggeration to say that the present-day Okinawan diet begins and ends with pork. Especially in the case of hogs, what the meat lacks in (vitamin A, D and others), the entrails more than make up for it. The stomach and innards are cooked together in a clear " Nakami " soup. The liver and heart, together with vegetables, make " Motsu " (giblet) dishes. These dishes contain high-quality protein and are rich in vitamins and minerals. We have the belief in Okinawa, based on the philosophy of food as medicine, that when one or more of your internal organs is out of kilter, it is good to eat the same innards of animals. The idea is to eat a food that supplies whatever is lacking. Pig feet and pork with the skin on are washed under boiling water and then simmered and eaten. The skin contains a high-quality protein called collagen. The Tofu Kingdom: Okinawans eat a lot of pork, but even more tofu. Okinawa boasts the number one spot in Japan for tofu consumption. Chanpuru, the quintessential family dish, is a stir-fried dish based on tofu, which is easy to get year-round, plus pork, processed pork meats, and seasonal vegetables. Chanpuru dishes use various ingredients and a particular variation will be called " such-and-such Chanpuru " depending on the name of the main ingredient. If the dish has lots of bean sprouts, then it is bean-sprout Chanpuru. If Goya (bitter melon) is the featured ingredient, then you are eating Goya Chanpuru. Whatever else there is, if tofu is the main ingredient, then it is tofu Chanpuru. The protein in the tofu and pork complements the vitamins and minerals in the vegetables to make Chanpuru a dish offering well-balanced nutrition. Besides Chanpuru, it is fair to say that tofu graces the dinner table daily in other dishes - soups, fried foods and as a side with sake. Okinawan diet I have osteoporosis and I am confused on the whole soy issue so from my understanding... osteo is virtually unknown in Okinawa because they consume so much soy phytoestrogens which protect them. I'm confused because Sally contraindicates this and says soy causes osteoporosis... could someone clarify this for me? thanks jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Hi All, The below is from an erudite scientist studying Japanese lifestyles by permission. I believe it to be somewhat of interest. " The archetypal Spartan (or peasant) diet in Japanese was traditionally a bowl of steamed rice (not too appetizing alone) with a bowl of miso soup and a few slices of pickled radish to lend flavor to the rice. (Although in fact it seems that very few Japanese farmers could afford to eat rice until the late 19th c. They grew rice to turn over to the tax collectors, and ate millet or barley except on festive occasions.) ... Contrary to what anyone dining at restaurants in N.A. might well assume, traditional Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Thai and Indian diets are basically vegetarian, out of necessity though also of course to varying degrees for ethical reasons. ... The sub-tropical climate of Okinawa sustains a wider variety of fruits, and vegetables can be eaten fresh most of the year (hence less pickling). ... the Okinawan diet is not low in sodium (7 g / day), but lower than that of the Japanese (more than 12 g / day ... The wartime forced calorie restriction of the Japanese (and Okinawan) population certainly did not entail adequate nutrition. " Cheers, Alan Pater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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