Guest guest Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 Hi : Thanks for those observations on Zyflamend. Helpful. Also, the following is interesting for HOW MARGINAL the benefits of soy isoflavones appear to be for prostate cancer: " Serum total PSA decreased or was unchanged in 69% of the subjects in the isoflavone treated group compared to 55% in the placebo group. " One wonders whether there is ANY significance to data like that. This is the abstract of the study: PMID: 15042614. This morning I have spent a little time trying to figure if it really is the soy products that cause the low prostate cancer in Asia. The above suggests it is not (materially) the isoflavones. It doesn't seem likely it is the alpha-linolenic acid in soy products! 'Positive Dennis' reported here a sizeable decline in his PSA with soy PROTEIN supplementation. (But that is just one anecdotal case). So maybe it is one of the amino acids that is found in greater quantity in soy products? Of course it could be some micronutrient no one has discovered yet. Or maybe it is some other aspect of the asian diet? (fish? iodine from many sources including seaweeds? .........). Or perhaps the absence from the asian diet of some food item common in north America and Europe? Rodney. > Tough to take this too seriously given the history of herbal > supplements and prostate cancer treatment. This supplement appears to > have many good ingredients, and may indeed have a beneficial and > substantial effect in fighting prostate cancer, but it has a few > hurdles to jump before it becomes an accepted, viable alternative > therapy. As noted above, there is the PC-SPES scandle and the > proprietary backing of Zyflamend. > > > On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:17:05 -0000, Rodney <perspect1111@y...> wrote: > > > > > > Hi folks: > > > > http://www.healthday.com/view.cfm?id=521353 > > > > Rodney. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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