Oh Boy!!! Was: Re: polymeal

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Hi folks:

The following should provoke some discussion here, LOL.

I just got around to reading the abstract of the study reported upon

in the link in my post to Rad, below. (Seems like a good idea to

read it, lol).

Here are what seem to me to be the key excerpts from the abstract

that appear highly relevant to us here, edited without, I hope, in

any way changing the meaning:

" Results: ........... BP levels ............. were positively

correlated with LBM. "

Now read that again folks, just in case it didn't sink in. ***LBM***

is positively correlated with BP. And .......... :

" Multiple regression analyses that included ethnicity, sex,

angiotensin II, and measures of body composition indicated the

following: a) LBM was the best predictor of stress systolic

BP ................. "

Abstract source: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?

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Or you might want to try instead:

http://snipurl.com/bvsg

So then, are we to presume from this that the loss of LBM in CRON is

a ***positive*** benefit for blood pressure? That seems to be the

implication.

And taking the above one step further, should people on CRON be

making efforts to preserve LBM? Or, on the contrary, should we be

happy to see it decline along with BF% in our transitions from our ad

lib BF%s to 'fully established CRON status' of 5% to 10% BF%?

Just trying to draw logical conclusions from the evidence. (Of

course, as I have noted before, that is a process which not

infrequently can get you into trouble!). BP is only one measure of

human health. How are the other important measures (lipids, cell

proliferation, inflammation, etc ........ ) related to LBM?

Is there a message here for the most muscular among us? Or am I out

to lunch for even thinking to raise the issue? I am quite sure that

this will sound like heresy to many here : ^ )))

Critiques of the above are more than welcome.

Rodney.

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > Some time back, the polymeal was discussed.

> >

> > Here is the actual article which was printed in the British

Medical

> > Journal:

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/329/7480/1447

> >

> > At the end of the article is an interesting section called rapid

> > responses.

> >

> > Actually, BMJ is an overall good publication to bookmark.

> >

> > One related question: what does the group suggest in terms of

diet

> > and nutrition to bring down stubbornly moderately high blood

> pressure?

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Rad