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>>> But it seems to me that since, if one is going to practice

CR, calories must be reduced somewhere, concentrated sources of

calories (starch is one such concentrated source) that have a high GI

(or probably better, a high II); low levels of micronutrients and

antioxidants per calorie;

Outside of " non Starchy " vegetables and many fruits, starchy vegetables may be

the next most concentrated source of nutrients per calorie. Next to vegetables

and fruits, they are also very low in calorie density. And, in regard to II,

they actually have lower II than many foods " thought " to be low in II.

For example...

The insulin scores for the following foods may be eye opening

(all numbers based on equal caloric portions)

Beef 51

Fish 59

Cheese 45

Brown pasta 40

Porridge (Oatmeal) 40

Brown rice 62

Apples 59

Oranges 60

So, Whole Wheat Pasta, and Oatmeal actually produced lower insuling reactions

that fish or beef or cheese. Apples and oranges produced a response not much

different than Fish.

In overall nutrient density, I will double check , but i think its the oatmeal

that wins out of the above.

>>Let me put it this way: it is probably better to reduce those than

to reduce sources which have a low II; high levels of micronutrients

and antioxidants per calorie; and low susceptibility to aflatoxin.

Can you be more specific about which foods these are? If not nonstarchy

vegetables, some fruits, and some lower calorie dense legumes (though I dont

know many " higher " CD legumes outside of the chickpea).

thanks

Jeff

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