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I recall reading years ago that Pres Bush II was a sub-20 Min 5K runner, while

not world class it is

quite respectable and clearly a notch above Pres Clinton's jogging between

burger joints. His

fitness has surely suffered due to the demands of office and he admitted to

eating a few too many

donuts during his re-election campaign. Not quite as bad as what some candidates

get fed during

elections in the former soviet union.

JR

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From: Rodney [mailto:perspect1111@...]

Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 1:35 PM

Subject: [ ] GWB's Data

Hi folks:

At nearly 6 feet tall, Bush was found in his 2003 physical to weigh

194 pounds, with a 14.5 percent body fat, a healthy resting blood

pressure of 110/62 and a resting pulse rate (45 beats per minute)

that puts him in the range of a well-trained athlete.

Rodney.

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5K runners do not weigh 194 lbs :)

--- In , " " <crjohnr@b...>

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> I recall reading years ago that Pres Bush II was a sub-20 Min 5K

runner, while not world class it is

> quite respectable and clearly a notch above Pres Clinton's jogging

between burger joints. His

> fitness has surely suffered due to the demands of office and he

admitted to eating a few too many

> donuts during his re-election campaign. Not quite as bad as what

some candidates get fed during

> elections in the former soviet union.

>

> JR

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Rodney [mailto:perspect1111@y...]

> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 1:35 PM

>

> Subject: [ ] GWB's Data

>

>

>

>

> Hi folks:

>

> At nearly 6 feet tall, Bush was found in his 2003 physical to weigh

> 194 pounds, with a 14.5 percent body fat, a healthy resting blood

> pressure of 110/62 and a resting pulse rate (45 beats per minute)

> that puts him in the range of a well-trained athlete.

>

> Rodney.

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Despite your smiley face what you say is indeed funny since I've run in 5 & 10Ks

for well over 20

years, prior to getting my diet under control, at weights ranging as high as

perhaps 210-215#. FWIW

I was rarely the heaviest runner in those races.

I concede running at 150# is quite a bit easier, and these days I beat some

people who used to beat

me in local races, but it's probably as much due to my consistency in training

and their loss of

condition than my weight. I am not as fast now as I was around the time I ran my

one (and only)

marathon, some 20# heavier than I am now. Mileage has a lot to do with it.

JR

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From: chuinyun [mailto:chuinyun@...]

Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 3:05 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: GWB's Data

5K runners do not weigh 194 lbs :)

--- In , " " <crjohnr@b...>

wrote:

> I recall reading years ago that Pres Bush II was a sub-20 Min 5K

runner, while not world class it is

> quite respectable and clearly a notch above Pres Clinton's jogging

between burger joints. His

> fitness has surely suffered due to the demands of office and he

admitted to eating a few too many

> donuts during his re-election campaign. Not quite as bad as what

some candidates get fed during

> elections in the former soviet union.

>

> JR

>

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Greeting. good that you run much healthy. Heavier weight not good for

running, LOOK:

No man six feet tall and weighing 176lbs (79.8kg) will ever win the

London Marathon

Matching the figures to reality

How do these figures compare to past record holders? Here is a list of

some of them:

Emile Zatopek - 5'81/2' (1.740m)/154lbs (69.8kg): same as the average man

Herb Elliott - 5'101/2' (1.791m)/147lbs (66.6kg): 11 per cent below

average

Kip Keino - 5'9' (1.753m)/146lbs (66.2kg): 9 per cent below average

Seb Coe - 5'10' (1.778m)/120lbs (54.4kg): over 20 per cent below average

Steve Cram - 6'11/2' (1.867m)/153lbs (69kg): 15 per cent below average

Linford Christie - 6'21/2' (1.89m)/170lbs (77kg): 10 per cent below

average

Sly - 5'51/2' (1.66m)/113lbs (51kg): 11 per cent below average

Murray - 5'7' (1.70m)/111lbs (50kg): 18 per cent below average

Sally Gunnell - 5'6' (1.67m)/124lbs (56kg): 5 per cent below average

Ingrid Kristiansen - 5'61/2' (1.68m)/128lbs (58kg): 4 per cent below

average

Tatyana Kazankina - 5'31/2' (1.61m)/110lbs (49kg): 6 per cent below

average

Greta Waitz - 5'61/2' (1.689m)/110lbs (49kg): 17 per cent below average

Good health to you and all that here this board! Lots of life!! : )))

http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0048.htm

> > I recall reading years ago that Pres Bush II was a sub-20 Min 5K

> runner, while not world class it is

> > quite respectable and clearly a notch above Pres Clinton's jogging

> between burger joints. His

> > fitness has surely suffered due to the demands of office and he

> admitted to eating a few too many

> > donuts during his re-election campaign. Not quite as bad as what

> some candidates get fed during

> > elections in the former soviet union.

> >

> > JR

> >

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Public figures are always trying to impress us with their physical

prowess to reassure us that we have " strong " leaders.

On 16 July 1966, chairman Mao swam in the Yangtze River to show that

he was physically fit and able to lead China during the Cultural

Revolution.

With regard to Bush, yes he was a runner, but years of running three

miles in 21 minutes ruined his knees from the high impact exercise. In

1997, he had arthroscopic surgery to repair cartilage damage to his

left knee and in 2003, at age 57, he had " post-traumatic degenerative

changes " of his right knee and had to switch to lower impact

exercises.

At 6 feet and 194 lb, his BMI is 26.4 -- about 10.8 lb overweight.

However, if the 14.5% figure for body fat is true, the extra 10.8 lb

is pure muscle!

Tony

citpeks <=> skeptic

>>>

From: " Rodney " <perspect1111@y...>

Date: Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:34 pm

Subject: GWB's Data

At nearly 6 feet tall, Bush was found in his 2003 physical to weigh

194 pounds, with a 14.5 percent body fat, a healthy resting blood

pressure of 110/62 and a resting pulse rate (45 beats per minute)

that puts him in the range of a well-trained athlete.

====

From: " " <crjohnr@b...>

I recall reading years ago that Pres Bush II was a sub-20 Min 5K

runner

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Hi:

Yes, most serious long distance runners are thin. It certainly seems

logical that it should help. But is anyone here old enough to

remember Chattaway? He held the world record for either the

5,000 metres or the 10,000 metres (or the 3 or 5 miles?), I forget

which, back in the late 1950s or early 1960s. At the time it never

occurred to me, but I now realize he must have been one of the

greatest runners of all time, as he was far from thin.

One wonders what times he might have achieved if he had lost twenty

pounds.

(He was one of the participants in the race where the four-minute

mile 'barrier' was broken for the first time).

At age 73 he is still running and put in a time of 1:40:00 recently

in a race won by a kenyan in a time of about 59 minutes.

Rodney.

> > I recall reading years ago that Pres Bush II was a sub-20 Min 5K

> runner, while not world class it is

> > quite respectable and clearly a notch above Pres Clinton's jogging

> between burger joints. His

> > fitness has surely suffered due to the demands of office and he

> admitted to eating a few too many

> > donuts during his re-election campaign. Not quite as bad as what

> some candidates get fed during

> > elections in the former soviet union.

> >

> > JR

> >

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Hi folks:

This is the source of the GWB data:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,141235,00.html

Certainly the 194 pounds and 14.5 BF% do look surprising contrasting.

Rodney.

>

> Public figures are always trying to impress us with their physical

> prowess to reassure us that we have " strong " leaders.

>

> On 16 July 1966, chairman Mao swam in the Yangtze River to show that

> he was physically fit and able to lead China during the Cultural

> Revolution.

>

> With regard to Bush, yes he was a runner, but years of running three

> miles in 21 minutes ruined his knees from the high impact exercise.

In

> 1997, he had arthroscopic surgery to repair cartilage damage to his

> left knee and in 2003, at age 57, he had " post-traumatic

degenerative

> changes " of his right knee and had to switch to lower impact

> exercises.

>

> At 6 feet and 194 lb, his BMI is 26.4 -- about 10.8 lb overweight.

> However, if the 14.5% figure for body fat is true, the extra 10.8 lb

> is pure muscle!

>

> Tony

> citpeks <=> skeptic

>

> >>>

> From: " Rodney " <perspect1111@y...>

> Date: Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:34 pm

> Subject: GWB's Data

> At nearly 6 feet tall, Bush was found in his 2003 physical to weigh

> 194 pounds, with a 14.5 percent body fat, a healthy resting blood

> pressure of 110/62 and a resting pulse rate (45 beats per minute)

> that puts him in the range of a well-trained athlete.

> ====

> From: " " <crjohnr@b...>

> I recall reading years ago that Pres Bush II was a sub-20 Min 5K

> runner

> >>>

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> Public figures are always trying to impress us with their physical

> prowess to reassure us that we have " strong " leaders.

>

> On 16 July 1966, chairman Mao swam in the Yangtze River to show that

> he was physically fit and able to lead China during the Cultural

> Revolution.

>

> With regard to Bush, yes he was a runner, but years of running three

> miles in 21 minutes ruined his knees from the high impact exercise. In

> 1997, he had arthroscopic surgery to repair cartilage damage to his

> left knee and in 2003, at age 57, he had " post-traumatic degenerative

> changes " of his right knee and had to switch to lower impact

> exercises.

Hi Tony.

Funny you should mention about W's knees, as I noticed on the news

earlier today a limp that I hadn't noticed before; he was walking toward

the stair of an aircraft (Airforce 1, I suppose) with his back to the

camera.

He is definitely somewhat lame (no sarcasm intended).

Al

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Rodney,

It is worse than I thought.

Read carefully the link that you provided. It says: " At nearly 6 feet

tall, Bush's weight increased to almost 200 pounds from 194 pounds 17

months ago. His body fat percentage increased to 18.25 percent from

14.5 percent. Bush, a devoted exerciser who prides himself on his

discipline, seemed to take the gain hard. "

What you quoted was the LAST YEAR'S data. The Washington post says

Bush is 5'11.75 " tall, 199.6 pounds and 18.25 percent body fat.

This makes Bush's BMI 27.3, which means that he is 17.6 pounds

overweight.

Tony

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