Re: Safe Sources of ALA (???)

[Guest guest]

As long as we're dealing with speculation here, I will speculate that we can't

completely avoid exposure to carcinogens.

While there is no doubt a dose dependant response for larger amounts, I suspect

our body survives as long as it does by managing low

level exposure of sundry stressors.

Since I believe we should focus our personal strategies on what might kill " us "

rather than general population studies, I am

concerned about cancer as it has taken a number of relatives and one sibling.

So in addition to keeping harmful exposure to a minimum, I am very interested in

approaches that up-regulate our bodies defense

mechanisms.

By this I am not suggesting that managing exposure is not a useful strategy only

that IMO a perfect barrier approach may not be

possible so defense mechanisms should also be cultivated.

JR

-----Original Message-----

From: Rodney [mailto:perspect1111@...]

Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 10:02 AM

Subject: [ ] Safe Sources of ALA (???)

Hi folks:

If, as I have hypothesized here recently, the link between ALA and

prostate cancer is aflatoxin, then plant products that are never

affected by aflatoxin might represent safe sources of ALA.

ALA definitely has clear benefits for CVD which it would be nice to

take advantage of (not that WE need it) if it were possible to do so

without increasing the risk of advanced prostate cancer.

Are walnuts ever infected with aflatoxin? My guess is probably not.

My guess is that flax can be when grown, or stored, in excessively

damp conditions. If anyone has good information on which food

products that contain ALA and are not affected by aflatoxin it would

be helpful. Thanks folks.

Rodney.

[Guest guest]

Hi JR:

That makes a lot of sense to me. What specific defense mechanisms do

you have in mind? It seems to be generally agreed that everyone's

immune system deteriorates with age. And that is often given as the

reason cancer rates escalate rapidly as we enter old age.

I remember posting a study here which showed that tea drinkers have a

five times stronger immune response to some types of bacterial

infection than non-tea drinkers. If we could put together a list of

half a dozen such strategies it would be very helpful.

Rodney.

--- In , " " <crjohnr@b...>

wrote:

> As long as we're dealing with speculation here, I will speculate

that we can't completely avoid exposure to carcinogens.

>

> While there is no doubt a dose dependant response for larger

amounts, I suspect our body survives as long as it does by managing

low

> level exposure of sundry stressors.

>

> Since I believe we should focus our personal strategies on what

might kill " us " rather than general population studies, I am

> concerned about cancer as it has taken a number of relatives and

one sibling.

>

> So in addition to keeping harmful exposure to a minimum, I am very

interested in approaches that up-regulate our bodies defense

> mechanisms.

>

> By this I am not suggesting that managing exposure is not a useful

strategy only that IMO a perfect barrier approach may not be

> possible so defense mechanisms should also be cultivated.

>

> JR

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Rodney [mailto:perspect1111@y...]

> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 10:02 AM

>

> Subject: [ ] Safe Sources of ALA (???)

>

>

>

>

> Hi folks:

>

> If, as I have hypothesized here recently, the link between ALA and

> prostate cancer is aflatoxin, then plant products that are never

> affected by aflatoxin might represent safe sources of ALA.

>

> ALA definitely has clear benefits for CVD which it would be nice to

> take advantage of (not that WE need it) if it were possible to do so

> without increasing the risk of advanced prostate cancer.

>

> Are walnuts ever infected with aflatoxin? My guess is probably not.

> My guess is that flax can be when grown, or stored, in excessively

> damp conditions. If anyone has good information on which food

> products that contain ALA and are not affected by aflatoxin it would

> be helpful. Thanks folks.

>

> Rodney.

[Guest guest]

Hi folks:

Correction. Walnuts *can* be affected by aflatoxin. But much less

likely to be than peanuts or corn. And different varieties of

walnuts have varying susceptibility, apparently.

Here is a note on aflatoxin that appears to be authoritative:

http://www.aflatoxin.info/maig.asp

Another random thought related to this topic .......... given the

many similarities between prostate cancer and breast cancer, might

aflatoxin be a factor for the latter as well as the former?

Rodney.

--- In , " Rodney " <perspect1111@y...>

wrote:

>

> Hi folks:

>

> If, as I have hypothesized here recently, the link between ALA and

> prostate cancer is aflatoxin, then plant products that are never

> affected by aflatoxin might represent safe sources of ALA.

>

> ALA definitely has clear benefits for CVD which it would be nice to

> take advantage of (not that WE need it) if it were possible to do

so

> without increasing the risk of advanced prostate cancer.

>

> Are walnuts ever infected with aflatoxin? My guess is probably

not.

> My guess is that flax can be when grown, or stored, in excessively

> damp conditions. If anyone has good information on which food

> products that contain ALA and are not affected by aflatoxin it

would

> be helpful. Thanks folks.

>

> Rodney.