Flax and Prostate Cancer and a lot more

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Hi all,

A subject one could consider here, when speaking about ALA and

prostate cancer, and flax and that disease, is that ALA is not flax

and flax is not ALA. I mean that when you go for flax, you are

ingesting a lot more than ALA, like flavonoids, lignans and so...,

and a lot of those substances have strogenic effects, what you could

consider when studying cancers in organs or tissues that have strogen-

like receptors as breast or prostate ones.

I have thought a lot about all of your posts reading about this

subject, and think it's a bit difficult to decide the healthiest

option here... but the big things in life are not so easy usually!

Maybe some walnuts provide the needed ALA while will give us w6 too,

and letting cis-w9 to be the rest of the fat in our diet.

By the other hand, I'm confused about olive oil and % of fat in my

diet, because I have been following CRON for about 6 years now, and I

have been fighting for being healthy changing my diet. I went from

being vegetarian to vegan to mediterranean to paleodiet to raw

foodist to zone-like now. I have found the real health in the zone-

like (C/L/P about 30-40/30-40/20/35), but I am concerned about the

amount of fat in my diet (som times I reach 40+ percentage of energy

from it!). I saw a paper in wich they fed green monkeys (primates)

with lard, olive oil and w6 oil, for some years (and a lot of

cholesterol) and when you looked at blood lipids, the olive oil diet

was the better (> HDL, < LDL, >HDL/TCHO ratio, less oxidiced

lipoproteins...) but when they looked at the real thing, studying the

arteries in the death animal, olive oil and saturated fad feeded

animals had the same degree of atherosclerosis and blood vessels

(intima) damage and lost of diameter. w6 feeded ones did better at

the end, besides lowest HDL. Some light here? Some advises? in my

life-diet tour, I found I had the lower cholesterol when low-

fat/vegan diet (70 total, 30 HDL), having medium levels in the

mediterranean diet (130 total, 60 HDL), and the highest when in the

paleodiet (204 total cho, 63 HDL); Nowadays (zone-like diet, 4 pounds

of vegetables a day, 1-2 pounds of fruit, 5 ounces of fish, and

another 4 of poultry or one/two eggs a day, +fair amounts of walnuts,

seeds and olive oil) I enjoy levels of 184 TC and 71 HDL. You see,

conventional medicine would see these data as amazing when looking

for protection against CVD, but I always remember the monkeys'paper...

Another question...: Walford says in his 120 years diet that when he

fed the computer with nutrituinal data in order to look for the best

nutrients per calorie ratio in food, he ever found vegetables, nor

grains neither pulses nor meats, as beating all records. Then, he

promoted whole grains, breads, pulses... and no so much vegetables.

He says Pritikin thought a grain based diet looking at " primitive

foods " , but that he (Pritikin) was mistaken when thought agricultural

men being earlier enough. Pritikin promotes a really low-fat diet....

An yes, I know you have debated this question up to saciety, but low-

fat have left the way towards high-fat nowadays, and people use olive

oil as water here (in Europe)... I hope CR was only matter of

calories, because Low-fat promotes insulin-diseases and High-fat

blocks arteries in spite however HDL would want to be. Low-prot bad

(starvation, bad inmune response...); High-prot bad (renal problems,

calcium loss, cancer promotion...)... Grains, good; grains bad...

etc. etc. etc... You guess...

OK. Yesterday finished da day making polymeal-chocolates ;-D (I

blended 100 grams half-defattened cocoa podwer, two bananas (175

grams), 3 ounces of dried grapes, 4 ounces of lamb's lettuce, 150 ml

of organic red wine, 70 grams of walnuts -instead of almonds-... and

thought about adding the 63 grams of fish, but really didn't have the

courage to do it; this turned in 30 chocolate balls I put into the

freezer). I enjoyed one of them as the dinner's dessert... WOW! Was

really good for its 135 kcal (and I can sure you my spouse is not

going to steal me just one! he, he...)

Cheers.

Willie.

PS: I have the references for all the papers I refered to.