Re: CDC Revises Obesity Toll DOWN DRAMATICALLY

[Guest guest]

Hi folks:

Sorry. Here is the link for my post above:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,153944,00.html

Rodney.

--- In , " Rodney " <perspect1111@y...>

wrote:

>

> Hi folks:

>

> I wouldn't want to be the statistican responsible for this foul-up.

>

> In January of 2005 the CDC attributed 365,000 deaths per year in

the

> US to obesity. Now they have revised the

number ...................

>

> Now, three months later, they say it is just 25,814.

>

> They are also saying that being 'somewhat over weight' (however

that

> is defined) is healthy.

>

> This kind of stuff is truly difficult to believe. Should we from

> here on believe ANYTHING that comes out from the CDC?

>

> Rodney.

[Guest guest]

Saw this on the news. I wonder how many people are going to reach for

another Big Mac or doughnut because of this.........

on 4/19/2005 8:10 PM, Rodney at perspect1111@... wrote:

>

> Hi folks:

>

> I wouldn't want to be the statistican responsible for this foul-up.

>

> In January of 2005 the CDC attributed 365,000 deaths per year in the

> US to obesity. Now they have revised the number ...................

>

> Now, three months later, they say it is just 25,814.

>

> They are also saying that being 'somewhat over weight' (however that

> is defined) is healthy.

>

> This kind of stuff is truly difficult to believe. Should we from

> here on believe ANYTHING that comes out from the CDC?

>

> Rodney.

>

[Guest guest]

Last year, a CDC study listed the leading causes of preventable death in order as

tobacco;

poor diet and inactivity, leading to excess weight; (is this one or two tings?)

alcohol; (excess alcohol?)

germs; (infectious diseases perhaps? preventable?)

toxins and pollutants; (preventable?)

car crashes; (preventable?)

guns; (accidental and on purpose?)

risky sexual behavior; (what kind isn't?)

and illicit drugs.

Death is due to heart failure and/or brain failure.

If I "properly" categorize the items I can prove anything.

If I emphasize a healthy diet, I might also avoid tobacco, excess alcohol, illicit drugs, and perhaps illicit sex. That clearly is singularly positive. Add just one of those, like tobacco, could completely erase the positive of a healthy diet.

The toxins, accidents and germs are separate issues.

Anyway the stats are always misleading.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Rodney

Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:17 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: CDC Revises Obesity Toll DOWN DRAMATICALLY

Hi folks:Sorry. Here is the link for my post above:http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,153944,00.htmlRodney.--- In , "Rodney" <perspect1111@y...> wrote:> > Hi folks:> > I wouldn't want to be the statistican responsible for this foul-up.> > In January of 2005 the CDC attributed 365,000 deaths per year in the > US to obesity. Now they have revised the number ...................> > Now, three months later, they say it is just 25,814.> > They are also saying that being 'somewhat over weight' (however that > is defined) is healthy.> > This kind of stuff is truly difficult to believe. Should we from > here on believe ANYTHING that comes out from the CDC?> > Rodney.

[Guest guest]

Stats simply do not convey a lot of intelligence to me and I've used them for years.

Take for example, the risk of an angiogram is 0.14%.

That means the doc tells you the risk is about 1 in 1000. Is that a comfort?

My wife was really worried about that until I pointed out the people who GET angiograms ARE mostly the sickies - those with obviously bad hearts and they're looking to fix it. Sometimes they poke around an artery and it's fragile. Some arteries cannot be stented or bypassed.

And they will try a stent or bypass when the angiogram shows a defect and sometimes those fail.

So how do I boil all that down to a decision whether to do an angiogram?

Realistically, how much does it cost is a better guide.

To the cardiologist who needs to raise his stats for the insurance company, he'd like an angiogram for a healthy person.

When do people quit eating Mac's? When people quit bringing them to their bedsides.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Francesca Skelton

Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:23 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] CDC Revises Obesity Toll DOWN DRAMATICALLY

Saw this on the news. I wonder how many people are going to reach foranother Big Mac or doughnut because of this.........on 4/19/2005 8:10 PM, Rodney at perspect1111@... wrote:> > Hi folks:> > I wouldn't want to be the statistican responsible for this foul-up.> > In January of 2005 the CDC attributed 365,000 deaths per year in the> US to obesity. Now they have revised the number ...................> > Now, three months later, they say it is just 25,814.> > They are also saying that being 'somewhat over weight' (however that> is defined) is healthy.> > This kind of stuff is truly difficult to believe. Should we from> here on believe ANYTHING that comes out from the CDC?> > Rodney.

[Guest guest]

There seems to be an oversight in their list, as I believe medical errors (incorrect medication/dose/diagnosis/etc) should be on the list somewhere.

Perhaps they just bury their mistakes.

JR

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of jwwrightSent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: CDC Revises Obesity Toll DOWN DRAMATICALLY

Last year, a CDC study listed the leading causes of preventable death in order as

tobacco;

poor diet and inactivity, leading to excess weight; (is this one or two tings?)

alcohol; (excess alcohol?)

germs; (infectious diseases perhaps? preventable?)

toxins and pollutants; (preventable?)

car crashes; (preventable?)

guns; (accidental and on purpose?)

risky sexual behavior; (what kind isn't?)

and illicit drugs.

Death is due to heart failure and/or brain failure.

If I "properly" categorize the items I can prove anything.

If I emphasize a healthy diet, I might also avoid tobacco, excess alcohol, illicit drugs, and perhaps illicit sex. That clearly is singularly positive. Add just one of those, like tobacco, could completely erase the positive of a healthy diet.

The toxins, accidents and germs are separate issues.

Anyway the stats are always misleading.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Rodney

Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:17 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: CDC Revises Obesity Toll DOWN DRAMATICALLY

Hi folks:Sorry. Here is the link for my post above:http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,153944,00.htmlRodney.--- In , "Rodney" <perspect1111@y...> wrote:> > Hi folks:> > I wouldn't want to be the statistican responsible for this foul-up.> > In January of 2005 the CDC attributed 365,000 deaths per year in the > US to obesity. Now they have revised the number ...................> > Now, three months later, they say it is just 25,814.> > They are also saying that being 'somewhat over weight' (however that > is defined) is healthy.> > This kind of stuff is truly difficult to believe. Should we from > here on believe ANYTHING that comes out from the CDC?> > Rodney.