Re: Cancer-Enabling Enzyme Can Be Blocked Naturally

[Guest guest]

Logan: once again you've come up with an unscrupulous quack. Here's

another take on Dr Rath: http://www.drmirkin.com/nutrition/8466.html

And of course he is discussed on Quackwatch:

http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/rath.html

on 3/22/2005 7:12 AM, Logan at loganruns73@... wrote:

>

> Cancer-Enabling Enzyme Can Be Blocked Naturally:

> Danish Research Confirms Cancer Breakthrough Approach

> by Matthias Rath, M.D.

>

> Market Wire

>

> 21 Mar 2005

>

> FREMONT, CA. -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 30-11-2004 -- A

> discovery made by Dr. Matthias Rath on how nutrient

> synergy can halt the cascading series of events that

> lead to the metastasis of cancer has been recently

> confirmed by Research done at Copenhagen University

> and published in the International Journal of Cancer.

>

> The Danish study found that the lack of the enzyme

> urokinase plasminogen activator (uPA) can stop the

> spread of cancer, as shown in mice genetically

> modified to not have the enzyme. The absence of uPA

> prevents the ability of cancer cells to dissolve

> collagen and metastasize to other parts of the body,

> but today there are no pharmaceutical solutions to

> block uPA.

>

> Dr. Matthias Rath's research shows that blocking this

> enzyme can be achieved naturally. In 1992, Dr. Rath

> published research suggesting the use of amino acid

> lysine as a natural inhibitor of plasmin and other

> enzymes (matrix metalloproteinases) involved in

> collagen digestion. Recently, Dr. Rath and his team of

> researchers at the Matthias Rath Research Institute in

> Cellular Medicine, Santa Clara, CA have identified a

> specific combination of nutrients that can inhibit the

> activity of collagen dissolving enzymes and stop the

> spread of cancer cells. Dr. Rath's research shows that

> Vitamin C, the amino acids L-lysine and L-proline, and

> a green tea extract known as Epigallocatechin Gallate

> (EGCG) work together to synergistically block the

> spread of cancer cells through connective tissue. In

> addition, this specific nutrient synergy can reduce

> new blood vessel formation, which supplies blood to

> tumors (angiogenesis), inhibit cancer cell

> replication, and induce a natural " suicide " cycle in

> cancer cells (apoptosis).

>

> " The most effective way to control cancer is by

> attacking cancer simultaneously at all four ways it

> threatens health: its spread, growth, lifespan and

> survival, " says Dr. Rath.

>

> Dr. Rath's research, published in scientific journals

> and presented at many scientific conferences, points

> the way to a new era in the natural control of cancer,

> which is both more effective and safer than

> pharmaceutical methods.

>

> For more information on Dr. Rath's research, go to

> www.drrathresearch.org.

>

[Guest guest]

Francesca already pointed out that Dr. Matthias Rath does not have a

good reputation and provided a couple of links.

When I started reading the post, three things caught my attention:

1) The words " MARKET WIRE " which sounds like a press release of some

kind, and not a scientific article.

2) The third person account of himself claiming a discovery. This is

a sign of an egotist.

3) The lack any substantiating refereed journal references. This

makes the article only an unvalidated opinion.

These are all signs of a self-promoting, unscrupulous person who

probably cannot be trusted.

Tony

>>>

From: Logan <loganruns73@y...>

Date: Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:12 am

Subject: Cancer-Enabling Enzyme Can Be Blocked Naturally

Cancer-Enabling Enzyme Can Be Blocked Naturally:

Danish Research Confirms Cancer Breakthrough Approach

by Matthias Rath, M.D.

Market Wire 21 Mar 2005

FREMONT, CA. -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 30-11-2004 -- A

discovery made by Dr. Matthias Rath on how nutrient

synergy can halt the cascading series of events that

lead to the metastasis of cancer has been recently

>>>

Blah, blah, blah ...

[Guest guest]

BINGO Tony (and Francesca):

This is what Market Wire does, according to its own website:

" What We Do

Market Wire provides comprehensive press release distribution of

corporate news and media advisories directly to leading newspapers,

broadcast outlets, newswires, consumer and trade publications,

analyst terminal systems, Web sites and online databases around the

globe. "

So that Matthias piece looks like it is a press release written by

someone in his organization. Probably him.

Rodney.

>

> Francesca already pointed out that Dr. Matthias Rath does not have a

> good reputation and provided a couple of links.

>

> When I started reading the post, three things caught my attention:

> 1) The words " MARKET WIRE " which sounds like a press release of some

> kind, and not a scientific article.

> 2) The third person account of himself claiming a discovery. This

is

> a sign of an egotist.

> 3) The lack any substantiating refereed journal references. This

> makes the article only an unvalidated opinion.

>

> These are all signs of a self-promoting, unscrupulous person who

> probably cannot be trusted.

>

> Tony

>

> >>>

> From: Logan <loganruns73@y...>

> Date: Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:12 am

> Subject: Cancer-Enabling Enzyme Can Be Blocked Naturally

>

> Cancer-Enabling Enzyme Can Be Blocked Naturally:

> Danish Research Confirms Cancer Breakthrough Approach

> by Matthias Rath, M.D.

>

> Market Wire 21 Mar 2005

>

> FREMONT, CA. -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 30-11-2004 -- A

> discovery made by Dr. Matthias Rath on how nutrient

> synergy can halt the cascading series of events that

> lead to the metastasis of cancer has been recently

> >>>

> Blah, blah, blah ...

[Guest guest]

don't you mean others ?

what we need here Logan is for you check the " source " of your info before posting. If you're searching out these quacks on the web, then what Tony, Rodney and I found on the web about Dr Rath should have been easy for you to check, just as it was for us.

If vitamins could cure cancer, you can be sure major cancer researchers (not to speak of vitamin companies) would have found this out by now and we wouldn't need some shyster who hawks vitamins to tell us.

on 3/22/2005 5:52 PM, Logan at loganruns73@... wrote:

>

>> once again you've come up with an unscrupulous quack

>

> " once again " ? Who was the other?

>

> It appears Dr. Rath is hijacking the referenced study

> for his own purposes. I see no connection between the

> claims in the news release and the actual study below.

>

> Logan

>

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

Rath has published in an apparently reputable journal.

Roomi MW, Ivanov V, Kalinovsky T, Niedzwiecki A, Rath M.

In vivo antitumor effect of ascorbic acid, lysine, proline and green

tea

extract on human colon cancer cell HCT 116 xenografts in nude mice:

evaluation

of tumor growth and immunohistochemistry.

Oncol Rep. 2005 Mar;13(3):421-5.

PMID: 15706410 [PubMed - in process]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=15706410

>

> >

> >> once again you've come up with an unscrupulous quack

> >

> > " once again " ? Who was the other?

> >

> > It appears Dr. Rath is hijacking the referenced study

> > for his own purposes. I see no connection between the

> > claims in the news release and the actual study below.

> >

> > Logan

> >

[Guest guest]

> don't you mean others ?

Maybe my definition of " quack " is different. After

joining the list last year, I did post many times with

evidence that didn't meet the " published,

peer-reviewed " standard that I had to be made aware

of. That doesn't make other forms of evidence

" quacky " . Otherwise, I have no idea of the " others "

you're referring to or just don't remember.

> what we need here Logan is for you check

> the " source " of your info beforeposting. If you're

> searching out these quacks on the web, then what

> Tony, Rodney and I found on the web about Dr Rath

> should have been easy for you to check, just as it

> was for us.

I'm not " searching out these quacks " ! I'm merely

posting health-related news that come across the news

wires to broaden perspective. Because that

effectively seems to be the only information that

makes it past the moderators nowadays besides

abstracts and trivial discussions on the same subjects

over and over.

> If vitamins could cure cancer, you can be sure major

> cancer researchers (not to speak of vitamin

> companies) would have found this out by now and we

> wouldn't need some shyster who hawks vitamins to

> tell us.

As the in vitro study from Al showed, it may be that

Rath is not a " quack " at all. He may be a huckster

and a fervent one at that, but not all hucksters are

" quacks " .

Logan

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Logan: I apologize if I was harsh with you.

Most of us seem to know what is science rather than pseudo-science. I would

suggest that if one is not sure of the difference to be suspicious of

anything you read on the web that is not from an impeccible source. The web

is notorious for nonsense; I guess I assume that most people have figured

that out and that the members of this group are sophisticated enough to able

to sift the wheat from the chaff. You posted something from a

questionable source IIRC. And Dr Rath's website was a dead giveaway as to

his motives. Easy to check out.

I hope that helps.

on 3/23/2005 10:17 PM, Logan at loganruns73@... wrote:

>

>> don't you mean others ?

>

> Maybe my definition of " quack " is different. After

> joining the list last year, I did post many times with

> evidence that didn't meet the " published,

> peer-reviewed " standard that I had to be made aware

> of. That doesn't make other forms of evidence

> " quacky " . Otherwise, I have no idea of the " others "

> you're referring to or just don't remember.

>

>> what we need here Logan is for you check

>> the " source " of your info beforeposting. If you're

>> searching out these quacks on the web, then what

>> Tony, Rodney and I found on the web about Dr Rath

>> should have been easy for you to check, just as it

>> was for us.

>

> I'm not " searching out these quacks " ! I'm merely

> posting health-related news that come across the news

> wires to broaden perspective. Because that

> effectively seems to be the only information that

> makes it past the moderators nowadays besides

> abstracts and trivial discussions on the same subjects

> over and over.

>

>> If vitamins could cure cancer, you can be sure major

>

>> cancer researchers (not to speak of vitamin

>> companies) would have found this out by now and we

>> wouldn't need some shyster who hawks vitamins to

>> tell us.

>

> As the in vitro study from Al showed, it may be that

> Rath is not a " quack " at all. He may be a huckster

> and a fervent one at that, but not all hucksters are

> " quacks " .

>

> Logan

>