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[Guest guest]

Dear List,

I am not sure if we're doing the NET part of this well, but the only time

Isaac seems cheerful lately is if we let him do what he wants, usually a

non-productive activity or if he is going places. He has taken to the mixed

drill format at a faster pace very well, and for twenty minutes including

cards and a puzzle, he did not whine and act miserable which is how he has

been acting for a couple/few weeks far too often for our liking. I am not

sure what to do. Is it really productive to do less table time and try

other things? This is an older child who has limited skills, and you can

not leave by himself, unless he has a video and even then you have to check

on him a lot.

However, he is burning out, and so are we. I need my therapists to see this

in action and I need to find some balance.

How do you do the balance between your drill work, other areas of need and

recreation? I know most of the kids are younger, so it is not exactly the

same, but there must be some struggle to figure out what is a good ratio of

work to play to learning in the environment assuming that is going to

happen? Lastly, Isaac was very happy walking through the mall and each time

he examined the candles we labeled the colors and sniffed them and set them

back, etc., and talked a lot about everything we saw, but this seems so, I

don't know, basic?

Jennie

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I meant to send this to my husband! Oops!

Alia

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Can you add a line for kids bracelets and one for adult bracelets??

Also, can you make a word version??

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[Guest guest]

Hi all, Let me reintroduce myself. My name is 48 married. I have been doing cron now since May. My husband does not care to eat the way I do, so I have different meals at dinner. Before I started Cron I was in DR Phil's weight loss group, still am.

I joined them a year ago for I was having problems with accountability. I am 5'2" 106lb. Four years ago I was 148lb lost 40 pounds, then it was creeping up last fall. This support I get from the meeting has enable me to get back to 106 and stay. The problem I am having is that I could not follow the way DR Phil say's to eat. I did away with my equal. And no long drink soda. They can't or won't do the same. They are all having trouble losing and DR Phil say's one does not need to count calories. I tell them it works for me to and they all seem to want to just follow the book.

I can see how is finding it frustrating at work. If I go to the mall I take my own lunch. It scares me to see what people eat in the food court. I have to tell you all that I feel better then when I was 25.

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone.

I was wondering if anyone has had problems with lose bowel movements that

come from no ware? I am not sure if he has a virus or what. We have never had

problems with leaky gut before. Could the medication be causing it? He is

taking (Famvir Nizoral and Celexa) I am seeing slow improvement but for some

reason I have this new bonus. I will be talking to Dr. G. today but I

always love hearing from you guys.

Any thoughts are wonderful.

[Guest guest]

, I just spoke with Dr. G earlier about this today, recently he

prescribed an antibiotic for my son because I had noted that when on an

antibiotic he seemed to be more alert. When my son was on the antibiotic

regularly (in addition to a probiotic)not only was he more alert, but his

bowel movements are now normal. He also had loose bm's for sometime prior

to the antibiotic.

Mindy

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Hi everyone.

I was wondering if anyone has had problems with lose bowel movements that

come from no ware? I am not sure if he has a virus or what. We have never

had

problems with leaky gut before. Could the medication be causing it? He is

taking (Famvir Nizoral and Celexa) I am seeing slow improvement but for

some

reason I have this new bonus. I will be talking to Dr. G. today but I

always love hearing from you guys.

Any thoughts are wonderful.

[Guest guest]

We too expereinced looses BMs, then normal while on antibiotic.

But I would 1st try a probiotic (acidophilus or kyodophilus)....Dr G

recommends either one, and see if it helps put.

> , I just spoke with Dr. G earlier about this today, recently

he

> prescribed an antibiotic for my son because I had noted that when

on an

> antibiotic he seemed to be more alert. When my son was on the

antibiotic

> regularly (in addition to a probiotic)not only was he more alert,

but his

> bowel movements are now normal. He also had loose bm's for

sometime prior

> to the antibiotic.

>

> Mindy

>

> Re: Re: Changes

>

>

> Hi everyone.

>

> I was wondering if anyone has had problems with lose bowel

movements that

> come from no ware? I am not sure if he has a virus or what. We

have never

> had

> problems with leaky gut before. Could the medication be causing

it? He is

> taking (Famvir Nizoral and Celexa) I am seeing slow improvement

but for

> some

> reason I have this new bonus. I will be talking to Dr. G. today

but I

> always love hearing from you guys.

>

> Any thoughts are wonderful.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if any of you have had sudden changes in bowel movements?

We just upped or SSRI (Celexa) and he is doing really well across the board

expect for bowel movements (lighter in color and much softer). He seems happy

and social and is moving forward. So as you might guess I am confused.

We also added Epson salt baths, Enzymes and Probiotics, all of which I know

Dr. G is not a big fan of. Anyway I guess it could be that. He has been on

all of them before and done great so I don't think so. I also thought maybe

he has become GC sensitive. Something we have never been before. The only

thing is I don't see any negative behavior changes. I was thinking of taking

him off all but the Dr. G. medication to see what happens but it the enzymes

etc are helping is that the right thing? I also thought maybe the Epson salt

baths have been pulling out toxins.

Any thoughts would be great, sorry for rambling

[Guest guest]

Hi --

How many days have his stools been like this? That happens to my son

every single time we up the SSRI. Although his stools are usually

quite dark because of all the iron he takes. It only lasts for about

two days.

Dr. G doesn't have a problem with probiotics -- in fact, he recommends

certain brands. He likes Kyodophilus and single-strain probiotics

such as acidophilus.

Donna

> Hi everyone,

>

> I was wondering if any of you have had sudden changes in bowel

movements?

> We just upped or SSRI (Celexa) and he is doing really well across

the board

> expect for bowel movements (lighter in color and much softer). He

seems happy

> and social and is moving forward. So as you might guess I am confused.

>

> We also added Epson salt baths, Enzymes and Probiotics, all of which

I know

> Dr. G is not a big fan of. Anyway I guess it could be that. He has

been on

> all of them before and done great so I don't think so. I also

thought maybe

> he has become GC sensitive. Something we have never been before.

The only

> thing is I don't see any negative behavior changes. I was thinking

of taking

> him off all but the Dr. G. medication to see what happens but it

the enzymes

> etc are helping is that the right thing? I also thought maybe the

Epson salt

> baths have been pulling out toxins.

>

> Any thoughts would be great, sorry for rambling

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I do recall having loose BMs, even diarrhea, when first starting an

SSRI (either Celexa or Paxil, not sure which). I believe it is also listed

as a possible side effect, check your RX. Dr. G said it would not likely

be a side effect, but it sure seemed to be.

We had light colored stools (some alarmingly light--almost white) off/on

for over a year. His liver panel was always fine, which I worried about.

Once we started enzymes his stools became much darker and normal looking.

We are still on a very limited diet, in addition to the enzymes. We once

ran out of the enzymes, and the stools turned light again.

hth, Becky

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> Hi everyone,

>

> I was wondering if any of you have had sudden changes in bowel movements?

> We just upped or SSRI (Celexa) and he is doing really well across the

board

> expect for bowel movements (lighter in color and much softer). He seems

happy

> and social and is moving forward. So as you might guess I am confused.

>

> We also added Epson salt baths, Enzymes and Probiotics, all of which I

know

> Dr. G is not a big fan of. Anyway I guess it could be that. He has been

on

> all of them before and done great so I don't think so. I also thought

maybe

> he has become GC sensitive. Something we have never been before. The

only

> thing is I don't see any negative behavior changes. I was thinking of

taking

> him off all but the Dr. G. medication to see what happens but it the

enzymes

> etc are helping is that the right thing? I also thought maybe the Epson

salt

> baths have been pulling out toxins.

>

> Any thoughts would be great, sorry for rambling

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Veri,

Do you have a Neighbor or a Friend who could also be around just in case

needs help? is 13 and it might be good for her to do

something's on her own. This is a Normal stage for kids also. Umm The pulling

away

from Mom stage. But remind her you will be a call away plus you will be home it

is not going to take all your time from her. Sit down and talk with her on

what she can do that would help you when she get's home. With she will

help me with most of the cleaning around here. Outside work she will not

help me with lololol. I have to hand it to her though Dang she is a GREAT cook.

Alittle at a time give this to her before you start the new job. Lunch

money can always be put in the Back Pack and have her get everything needed

done the night before school. Put reminder notes around the house as well. But

another thing is you can put something special in her back pack. Even if it is

a Note with a Smiley face on it saying your doing good and I love you

sweetie :-). Little thing's mean so much to a child.

Robbin

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[Guest guest]

Robbin,

thanks for that. I know Jaye is a bit concerned but for the most part I

think she is trying to put the guilt trip on me all the while just smiling and

letting me think she is really worried and knowing it is ok. She can do

perfectly well on her own at home all day when I am at work. As it is now she

rarely calls me when she is home ill, just when she is at school not feeling

well. And yes, she knows that she can still call me but she probably should not

call as often as she does now. She also was a bit upset that she will not be

able to walk to see me at work next summer. Now I work just five blocks from the

house, soon it will be over a couple of miles. She will get past this and it

will be fine, she just is not the easiest one to adjust to change. You would

think she was the old one and not me when it comes to being able to accept

change.

Veri & Jaye 13 poly

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Veri,

Do you have a Neighbor or a Friend who could also be around just in case

needs help? is 13 and it might be good for her to do

something's on her own. This is a Normal stage for kids also. Umm The pulling

away

from Mom stage. But remind her you will be a call away plus you will be home it

is not going to take all your time from her. Sit down and talk with her on

what she can do that would help you when she get's home. With she will

help me with most of the cleaning around here. Outside work she will not

help me with lololol. I have to hand it to her though Dang she is a GREAT cook.

Alittle at a time give this to her before you start the new job. Lunch

money can always be put in the Back Pack and have her get everything needed

done the night before school. Put reminder notes around the house as well. But

another thing is you can put something special in her back pack. Even if it is

a Note with a Smiley face on it saying your doing good and I love you

sweetie :-). Little thing's mean so much to a child.

Robbin

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[Guest guest]

Veri:

Congratulations on the new job It's amazing what even a small raise can do

and awesome you will finally have insurance for yourself. As far as

Jaye, goes I know she will be fine. Yes the comfort zone will be tested, but

she'll do great. I've learn with Jay (who is also 13) that we get everything

organized the night before. The backpack, clothes for the next day etc. The

only thing we do in the morning is pack lunches (my fridge is too small to do

ahead of time). If we forget there is always money in the lunch account if

needed (my kids rarely eat hot lunch at school). Sometimes I will do like

Robbin suggested an put little notes in his backpack or binder..things like I'm

proud of you, hope your having a great day etc. Nothing embarrassing though,

just in case.

Have a great trip to Texas and hope the weather holds out for you. Be safe &

Happy Thanksgiving!

Beth & Hannah, 11, unspecified arthritis; asthma; gerd; migraines

Sending prayers & happy thoughts,

Beth :-)

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Well Jaye is frustrated and worried that she is loosing me when she needs

me. I will be changing jobs beginning December 3rd and will not be as accessable

to my kids. Of course I will be there if they really need me but I have told

Jaye that means emergency kind of stuff. I told her that forgetting her

back pack or leaving home work at home?and forgetting lunch money will not be on

the list of reasons for me to run to her school any more. She is going to have

take on that responsibility.

I am going to be working at a Health Clinic for the uninsured and underinsured.

I think this is very exciting and going to be a great change for me. I will be

the Administrative Assistant there and will get about $1 per hour increase in

wages which will help out very much. I will also now be able to get medical

insurance for myself and dental, vision and other if I want them. I have not had

insurance on me for a while and so have neglected a few things. Nothing major

but some things that need to be checked out now can be done. I will keep working

here at the church 10 hours a week and that will help me as well.? I have been

on the Board of Directors for a while at the Health Clinic and so am familiar

with some of what happens there. One neat thing is that they know about

Jaye and her jra and are fine to work with me. I start on the 3rd and they

already know that December 10th I will be off all day while we are traveling to

Kansas City to see the

rheumy and optho. I think I will get sick pay for that day as well after only

being there a week. But if I don't get the sick pay I will not complain, I will

just keep on keeping on.

Veri & Jaye 13 poly

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[Guest guest]

Hey ,

someone may have mentioned this already (I am making my way through

the digests and haven't reached today yet) but your little one's

reaction with the swollen and red foot sounds a lot like gout -

perhaps the oxalic acid in the raw spinach or chard is not agreeing?

Sheila

[Guest guest]

,

I know Sally Fallon of Weston Price does not recommend juicing swiss chard, spinach, or kale because of the oxalic acid.

Good luck!

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Hey ,someone may have mentioned this already (I am making my way throughthe digests and haven't reached today yet) but your little one'sreaction with the swollen and red foot sounds a lot like gout -perhaps the oxalic acid in the raw spinach or chard is not agreeing?Sheila

[Guest guest]

I know that Donna Gates of BED recommends that cruciferous vegetables

be cooked or fermented because of how difficult they are to digest. So

even for those without oxalate issues, it seems best to not consume

them raw and I also believe I have read that they can slow down

thyroid function (unless someone has an overactive thyroid, then it

could help).

Millie

>

> ,

>

> I know Sally Fallon of Weston Price does not recommend juicing swiss

chard, spinach, or kale because of the oxalic acid.

>

> Good luck!

[Guest guest]

I am just getting into juicing more and am expanding my garden.

Great for building immunity:

Garlic

Onion

Cilantro

Parsley

Also cilantro and parsley -- flat leaf and regular -- are great to

juice. They help the body detox heavy metals. Also great to add to

bone broth.

I am also growing stinging nettle to add to broth.

Dandelion is great juiced or you can dry and make tea. It supports

kidney and liver function.

Celery and carrots -- use in broth and juicing.

Beets - make kvass

Cabbage - make sauerkraut

Tomatoes pepper onion garlic - lacto fermented salsa

Tomatoes - lacto fermented ketchup

Just some quick ideas!

Ann Marie

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 14, 2008, at 11:19 AM, " Webster "

<creativemess10@...> wrote:

> We are planning a large garden (a few weeks late, but not

> TOO late yet!). This info about oxylates is confusing. Do any of

> you garden and then juice lots of what you grow? Any suggestions on

> musts to grow and/or things not to grow? I'd been thinking kale would

[Guest guest]

What parts of the dandelion do you juice?

Alison

>

> > We are planning a large garden (a few weeks late, but not

> > TOO late yet!). This info about oxylates is confusing. Do any of

> > you garden and then juice lots of what you grow? Any suggestions on

> > musts to grow and/or things not to grow? I'd been thinking kale would

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for all the great gardening ideas! Especially the garlic and cilantro--never occurred to me, although I'd heard both were good for detoxing. And boy, are the dandelions springing up all over the place! Another great idea--for juicing rather than for our garden, of course!

I'm placing my order for Heirloom Seeds tomorrow, so your suggestions were most timely!

in TN