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Hi :

Well let's be the devil's advocate for a moment, lol.

I get the feeling that people who are sufficiently rigid - even about

the possible health risks of occasional candy consumption - to

totally exclude a behaviour that many/most of the rest of us do enjoy

without evidence of harm, are exhibiting a (psychological) behaviour -

rigidity - that may not set them up ideally for longevity.

Similarly for wine consumption. In the danish wine study of ~ten

years ago, unlike this candy study, the data indicated a beneficial

dose-response for wine out to quite high levels of consumption (much

higher levels than I think desirable). But as in the candy study,

those with the highest mortality in the wine study were, again, those

who consumed none at all. Possibly in part because of a similar,

perhaps undesirable, rigidity about the issue.

Taking this one step further (this is where the Devil makes his

appearance) perhaps those of us who show enough determination to drop

our caloric intake as much as we do, are showing signs of a rather

similar ability to be 'rigid'.

In the case of the mice that lived 40% longer, that they ate less was

not a function of their psychology/determination/rigid approach to

life, but rather, instead, that they were only given a restricted

amount of food to eat, all of which they wolfed down with

enthusiasm. So perhaps this is a factor that may tend to dilute the

restriction effects when the results are transferred from mice to

humans?

Something to think about. fwiw wmnbm

Rodney.

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> I just came by this by accident so I figured I'd run it by you guys:

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> http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=28747

>

> What I find interesting is that almost all people who live a really

> long time just happene to be really happy people.

>

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Funny, Rodney,

I reached a pkg of Stover pecan delights for a 90yo lady, at Walmart recently. She said she ate one each day. (80 kcals)

"When you're 90yo, one can't hurt." she said.

Regards.

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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:06 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Candy & Longevity

Hi :Well let's be the devil's advocate for a moment, lol.I get the feeling that people who are sufficiently rigid - even about the possible health risks of occasional candy consumption - to totally exclude a behaviour that many/most of the rest of us do enjoy without evidence of harm, are exhibiting a (psychological) behaviour -rigidity - that may not set them up ideally for longevity.Similarly for wine consumption. In the danish wine study of ~ten years ago, unlike this candy study, the data indicated a beneficial dose-response for wine out to quite high levels of consumption (much higher levels than I think desirable). But as in the candy study, those with the highest mortality in the wine study were, again, those who consumed none at all. Possibly in part because of a similar, perhaps undesirable, rigidity about the issue.Taking this one step further (this is where the Devil makes his appearance) perhaps those of us who show enough determination to drop our caloric intake as much as we do, are showing signs of a rather similar ability to be 'rigid'. In the case of the mice that lived 40% longer, that they ate less was not a function of their psychology/determination/rigid approach to life, but rather, instead, that they were only given a restricted amount of food to eat, all of which they wolfed down with enthusiasm. So perhaps this is a factor that may tend to dilute the restriction effects when the results are transferred from mice to humans?Something to think about. fwiw wmnbmRodney.

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Yup. We even have people who smoke who live to a ripe old age. No doubt

genes play a role.

OTOH, too much rigidity leads to mental problems, obsessive behavior and

eating disorders (IMO). I always relax my eating habits for rare social

occasions and a meal out every so often. Even Walford did.

on 4/1/2005 10:02 AM, jwwright at jwwright@... wrote:

> Funny, Rodney,

> I reached a pkg of Stover pecan delights for a 90yo lady, at Walmart

> recently. She said she ate one each day. (80 kcals)

> " When you're 90yo, one can't hurt. " she said.

>

> Regards.

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