raw food

[Guest guest]

Dear Marabel

Oh thank you, thank you! I was worrying that eneryone would be bored

and cheesed off, (what an unvegan expression!!!), with it!!!

>I have to say that when I

eat

> raw food all day long- fruit, vegetables, nuts- I feel vibrant,

> fantastic. In fact, it's hard for me to get to sleep at night after

> eating alot of raw food, because I'm bounding with energy. I have

heard

> that this is generally what's to be expected if you eat alot of raw

food.

This is exactly what I have experienced with a high raw lifestyle. I

eat about 35-45% fruit, 15-25% salad and the rest cooked at the mo and

I do feel FAR more energised. It's also the experience of my friend.

Keep it up! If anyone wants to know the whys and wherefores of the

high energy feeling from raw food, I'll be happy to explain, and I'll

try to keep it both brief and simple.=)

> But I continue to think there are certain cases and situations where

> animal products provide the most expedient remedy.

This may even be the case in some instances, ie the genetic problems

we were discussing yesterday. I need to look into this in detail and

I assure you I will, (in time). I'm hoping to write a book on

veganism and health and I must honestly say that I am TRULY indebted

to linda for her information and the other responses to it as being

made aware of these unusual situations will enable me to research into

areas that most would not even know existed. So, I thank you most

sincerely for that and heartily wish you well - FAST!=)

>In his

> opinion, meat sustains him through laborious tasks to a greater

extent

> than our regular, mostly-vegetarian diet. He says he WANTS to be a

> vegetarian, he just doesn't think he can do hard labor without meat.

> Perhaps we haven't approached the task with our best effort, though?

I think you'll find that it is possible to do hard work on a vegan,

even a raw vegan diet, as there are plenty of people who manage it,

including top athletes! You may find that it could be something along

the lines of temporary detoxification symptoms that are making him

tired. If you want more on this, just let me know and I'll put

something together for you.=)

love and energy to you!

beth

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I would love to have you recommend some sites and books. I am following

the Eat Right 4 Your Type Diet, I'm a type A and am recommended to eat

Vegetarian, I feel better than ever following this program and never thought

I could go with out flesh protein, I don't miss it nearly as much as I

thought, just found out my husband and 2 son's are Type A also, so I am

slowly trying to change my family's eating habits.

Laurie

Mancuso wrote:

Dear Jonah,

I can't say that going raw was easy. It still is,

after a year, a struggle to fight the urge to eat

cooked food. I've been a vegetarian for most of my

life but after moving to Japan I started eating fish.

To say that I saw dramatic results after going vegan

and then raw is putting it mildly.

For the past 12 years I have had

to fight a losing

battle with what one doctor said was the worst case of

panic attacks he has ever heard of. I was saved just

hours before taking my own life, but that's another

story. It seems that this condition runs in my

family--it probably was the main cause of my

grandfather's premature death, it was killing my

father and I was going to take my own life before it

did me in. Going raw, in my opinion, was THE factor

to get me off of ALL medication and on the road to a

better way of life.

To answer your question, I saw results

in just a few

days of going 100% vegan, but the real miracle (for

me) was when I stopped with the cooked food and that

came in about a month's time (I'm about 90-95% raw).

I'm not there yet but it takes years to clean up an

unhealthy body. Hey, just because someone is a

vegetarian does not mean they're leading a healthy

life! If you're faced with some health problems then

I can recommend some web sites and books for you to

check out.

At the start, I would recommend

going slow and trying

to incorporate as much raw food as possible into

your day. Don't over do it. It should feel good to

you and that you're not depriving yourself of

anything.

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

,

How's your health generally after following that diet

for so long? I am

trying to do something similar for my own health,

hoping it'll make a

big difference for me..

I year seems like a pretty good amount of time to see

if any diet

works.

Were you quite ill before?

Thanks,

Jonah

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[Guest guest]

Me too, please

laurie kerr wrote:

Hi ,

I would love to have you recommend some sites and books. I am following

the Eat Right 4 Your Type Diet, I'm a type A and am recommended to eat

Vegetarian, I feel better than ever following this program and never thought

I could go with out flesh protein, I don't miss it nearly as much as I

thought, just found out my husband and 2 son's are Type A also, so I am

slowly trying to change my family's eating habits.

Laurie

Mancuso wrote:

Dear Jonah,

I can't say that going raw was easy. It still is,

after a year, a struggle to fight the urge to eat

cooked food. I've been a vegetarian for most of my

life but after moving to Japan I started eating fish.

To say that I saw dramatic results after going vegan

and then raw is putting it mildly.

For the past 12 years I have had

to fight a losing

battle with what one doctor said was the worst case of

panic attacks he has ever heard of. I was saved just

hours before taking my own life, but that's another

story. It seems that this condition runs in my

family--it probably was the main cause of my

grandfather's premature death, it was killing my

father and I was going to take my own life before it

did me in. Going raw, in my opinion, was THE factor

to get me off of ALL medication and on the road to a

better way of life.

To answer your question, I saw results

in just a few

days of going 100% vegan, but the real miracle (for

me) was when I stopped with the cooked food and that

came in about a month's time (I'm about 90-95% raw).

I'm not there yet but it takes years to clean up an

unhealthy body. Hey, just because someone is a

vegetarian does not mean they're leading a healthy

life! If you're faced with some health problems then

I can recommend some web sites and books for you to

check out.

At the start, I would recommend

going slow and trying

to incorporate as much raw food as possible into

your day. Don't over do it. It should feel good to

you and that you're not depriving yourself of

anything.

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

,

How's your health generally after following that diet

for so long? I am

trying to do something similar for my own health,

hoping it'll make a

big difference for me..

I year seems like a pretty good amount of time to see

if any diet

works.

Were you quite ill before?

Thanks,

Jonah

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[Guest guest]

Thanks so much !

Mancuso wrote:

Dear Laurie,

It's great that you're getting off the flesh. It's a

total myth that humans need it to live. What's for

dinner? And Got milk? Are total propaganda used to

fool us into thinking that we need that garbage. Good

for you and your family to waking up and eating what

WILL make you feel and look SO much better.

I highly recommend that you check out

www.rawfood.com. This is an organization called

Nature's First Law (NFL) and they are a 100% raw food

company that publishes and stocks only raw food

related products. I also recommend Wolfe's

book, The Sunfood Success Diet System. He's one of

the founders of NFL. has an e-group called

Rawimmortal and you can get some wonderful advice. If

you sign up, it would be better to get the digest

version since the group is very active and the posts

are many in number. Another great site is:

www.livingnutrition.com.

Well that's a good start. If I can help some more,

feel free to ask.

Have a wonderful raw day!!

Message: 2

Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 08:33:46 -0700

From: laurie kerr <laurker@...>

Subject: Re: Raw Food

Hi ,

I would love to have you recommend some sites and

books. I am following the Eat Right 4

Your Type Diet, I'm a type A and am recommended to eat

Vegetarian, I feel better than ever

following this program and never thought I could go

with out flesh protein, I don't miss it

nearly as much as I thought, just found out my husband

and 2 son's are Type A also, so I am

slowly trying to change my family's eating

habits.

Laurie

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[Guest guest]

I wouldn't say that having to eat meat is a total myth. The Eat Right

For Your Type explains how everyone is different and canot exist on the

same diet. No one diet is meant for everyone. This is why some people

do well on protein-based diets like Atkins (and people do!) and some don't

and vice-versa with vegetarian diets.

Different populations

of the earth have evolved differently in their different environments.

An eskimo, whose natural diet is a fat/protein based diet wouldn;t

do so well on a vegetarian diet. They've adapted to their

cold harsh environment, which the fat in their diet helps protect them

against. And there's more to it also.

One thing for certain is, " unnatural " foods which are a RECENT addition to

the human diet such as bread, white rice, sugar and

other refined carbohydrates are not beneficial to us.

Vito

>From: Mancuso <nyguyinjapan@...>

>Reply-bowel cleanse

>bowel cleanse

>Subject: Raw Food

>Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:01:51 -0700 (PDT)

>

>Dear Laurie,

> It's great that you're getting off the flesh. It's a

>total myth that humans need it to live. What's for

>dinner? And Got milk? Are total propaganda used to

>fool us into thinking that we need that garbage. Good

>for you and your family to waking up and eating what

>WILL make you feel and look SO much better.

> I highly recommend that you check out

>www.rawfood.com. This is an organization called

>Nature's First Law (NFL) and they are a 100% raw food

>company that publishes and stocks only raw food

>related products. I also recommend Wolfe's

>book, The Sunfood Success Diet System. He's one of

>the founders of NFL. has an e-group called

>Rawimmortal and you can get some wonderful advice. If

>you sign up, it would be better to get the digest

>version since the group is very active and the posts

>are many in number. Another great site is:

>www.livingnutrition.com.

> Well that's a good start. If I can help some more,

>feel free to ask.

>

>Have a wonderful raw day!!

>

>

>Message: 2

> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 08:33:46 -0700

> From: laurie kerr <laurker@...>

>Subject: Re: Raw Food

>

>Hi ,

>I would love to have you recommend some sites and

>books. I am following the Eat Right 4

>Your Type Diet, I'm a type A and am recommended to eat

>Vegetarian, I feel better than ever

>following this program and never thought I could go

>with out flesh protein, I don't miss it

>nearly as much as I thought, just found out my husband

>and 2 son's are Type A also, so I am

>slowly trying to change my family's eating

>habits.

>Laurie

>

>

>

>

>__________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Kim:

In some instances raw foods are recommended indeed yes because of the enzymes.

In the case of Hulda 's programme because she has found that herbal

remedies and amino acids combine well with cooked food and dairy and that the

combination accrues good result, this

combo then becomes her suggestion.

Dairy and cooked vegetables all on their own leave alot to be desired. Mucus

etcc. But

if you are following her herbal and amino acid programme along with the ozonated

Olive Oil and Lugol " s solution (5% iodine...one drop in water but be careful for

allergy to this!). Then that combo is what helps to knock out the parasites.

So yes, I agree with you. It can be confusing. But when you do the programme

from the first page of her book to the end you begin to experience the benefits

of the cleanse. However one must have lots of time and be very strong of heart

because its not exactly for pussy-cats.

I hope this helps a little.

Regards

Joan

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[Guest guest]

There have to bee a global movement somewhere to ensure safe and

clean food. A really powerful movement on a global scale. It

should have a form of combination between Greenpeace and the AA

movement ( The AA movement is without a head and based on a

humanitarian Christianity - and it is proved to work)

[Guest guest]

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[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

I looked into the raw food diet after reading that Walford

follows a 75% raw vegan diet. The other 25% is cooked, and I

understand that this is by volume. My conclusion is that anyone

venturing into a 100% raw food diet should proceed with extreme

caution. 100% raw may be a good temporary (1 month?) method for

breaking away from the standard American diet, but long-term

adherence easily results in nutritional deficiencies. Anyone

seriously contemplating such a path should read the scientific

articles and personal experiences collected on the website

www.beyondveg.com. I decided that a completely raw approach was not

the optimal diet for me (you may be different!) based on the

following:

1. With calorie restriction, I find that I need a significant

amount of protein to keep my energy levels up and feel satiated. It

would be very difficult for me to achieve this on a 100% raw vegan

diet.

2. Many of the approaches advocated by raw food gurus contain

inordinate amounts of sugar in the form of fresh fruits, agave

nectar, honey, and dried fruits. My family has a history of

diabetes, and I worry that such a high sugar diet would be harmful to

me.

3. Many of the approaches are also very high fat in the form of

nuts, avocados, coconuts, olive oil, cacao nuts, etc. The gourmet

preparations in the raw books look like caloric nightmares!

4. The gourmet preparations rely substantially on the use of

dehydrators to make all types of breads, juicers, and blenders. This

might be nice for a change of pace, but it violates the volumetrics

satiety principles, namely that water-filled foods, whole fruit, and

chunky soups are more satisfying than dry foods, juice, and purees.

All that being said, I have found some interesting preparations that

allow me to incorporate more raw vegetables into my diet. One of my

favorites is raw marinated greens. The recipe is from Rhio:

http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/home/home_a.html. I have also gained

inspiration from some of the psychological struggles that raw

foodists detail in their blogs. Rhio has some nice pointers on her

website about the importance of a positive mind set for anti-aging.

Here is a link http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/home/home_a.html. Because

of the satiating nature of raw fruits and vegetables and the fact

that many raw fruits and vegetables lose some of their vitamin

content during cooking, I think we can learn some great techniques

from the raw foodists. As with anything else, take what works and

leave the rest. Just my thoughts!

It's spring – drink some water, get some sunshine, and eat your leafy

greens!

[Guest guest]

laura: The website you mentioned has a conflict of interest associated with

it. Not only Rhio's book up for sale, but clothes, skin preparations,

supplements, even a " phone consultation " with the originator of the website.

Also I didn't see any place on the website listing her credentials for all

this preaching and selling.

One reason to stay away IMHO.

on 3/31/2005 9:16 AM, inga1800e at inga1800e@... wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I looked into the raw food diet after reading that Walford

> follows a 75% raw vegan diet. The other 25% is cooked, and I

> understand that this is by volume. My conclusion is that anyone

> venturing into a 100% raw food diet should proceed with extreme

> caution. 100% raw may be a good temporary (1 month?) method for

> breaking away from the standard American diet, but long-term

> adherence easily results in nutritional deficiencies. Anyone

> seriously contemplating such a path should read the scientific

> articles and personal experiences collected on the website

> www.beyondveg.com. I decided that a completely raw approach was not

> the optimal diet for me (you may be different!) based on the

> following:

>

> 1. With calorie restriction, I find that I need a significant

> amount of protein to keep my energy levels up and feel satiated. It

> would be very difficult for me to achieve this on a 100% raw vegan

> diet.

>

> 2. Many of the approaches advocated by raw food gurus contain

> inordinate amounts of sugar in the form of fresh fruits, agave

> nectar, honey, and dried fruits. My family has a history of

> diabetes, and I worry that such a high sugar diet would be harmful to

> me.

>

> 3. Many of the approaches are also very high fat in the form of

> nuts, avocados, coconuts, olive oil, cacao nuts, etc. The gourmet

> preparations in the raw books look like caloric nightmares!

>

> 4. The gourmet preparations rely substantially on the use of

> dehydrators to make all types of breads, juicers, and blenders. This

> might be nice for a change of pace, but it violates the volumetrics

> satiety principles, namely that water-filled foods, whole fruit, and

> chunky soups are more satisfying than dry foods, juice, and purees.

>

> All that being said, I have found some interesting preparations that

> allow me to incorporate more raw vegetables into my diet. One of my

> favorites is raw marinated greens. The recipe is from Rhio:

> http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/home/home_a.html. I have also gained

> inspiration from some of the psychological struggles that raw

> foodists detail in their blogs. Rhio has some nice pointers on her

> website about the importance of a positive mind set for anti-aging.

> Here is a link http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/home/home_a.html. Because

> of the satiating nature of raw fruits and vegetables and the fact

> that many raw fruits and vegetables lose some of their vitamin

> content during cooking, I think we can learn some great techniques

> from the raw foodists. As with anything else, take what works and

> leave the rest. Just my thoughts!

>

> It's spring – drink some water, get some sunshine, and eat your leafy

> greens!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

HI NICOLE,

I believe this site is more to do with health food shop and I have

the feeling that they do sell good supplements too. But I do know that eat raw

foods are the best for us. There are many interesting sites on that. Eat raw

food to get the best energy! If I find a nice site I will let you know ok? If

you know more about raw foods , let me know too. Interesting about losing

celulite...wow!!!!!!!! great!

Take Care

Joana

[Guest guest]

Joana,

I have been doing the raw thing for years. Although, due to my travel

schedule I can't do it as completely as I would like. I did go completely raw

for three weeks as I had to do a scene in a bikini ... I was amazed at how

quickly I thinned down ... not to mention, the excitement of watching the

cellulite just disappear!!

That site is a health food shop but they are part of a raw foods message group

and that is why I associated it with that. I literally had just gotten that

email right before you sent it through here. I get my supplements elsewhere

though. Nothing against that store, I just have an herbalist who takes care of

me. I like being taken care of.

Feel free to ask me anything on raw foods. I'll answer what I can. If

you are new to it, the best cookbook I can recommend to get started is " The Raw

Gourmet " by Nomi . Her recipes are easier to follow than a lot of those

books and they are delicious ... especially the pies!!!!

OK ... I think I have to go shopping now as this has made me hungry!

Take care,

[Guest guest]

Hey Dirk,

This is not exactly the perview of of this group, but I would say that the whole

parasite thing is overblown, and applies much much more to fresh water fish than

land based raw meat. Unless you are eating human flesh I wouldn't be concerned

about parasites in raw meat. I would suggest that you read We Want To Live,

and/or The Recipe For Living Without Disease, both by Aajonus Vonderplanitz.

They offer a completely new perspective on these issues. Great food for thought,

as well.

Tonio

Raw food

Hey! Anybody here a raw food dieter? I would like to eat raw meat, but

parasties freak me out. I was wondering if there was a way to overcome this

through curing or fermentation...