Guest guest Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 I'm not sure what you're saying... While it would be convenient to just disown the actions of " our " government, they only do what " we " allow them to do. I suggest any critical of past gov't actions should get more proactive about making your voice heard. Enough people with the same or similar message will make an impact. Sure government is often manipulated by interest groups, but I consider us a fairly enlightened interest group... Lets do more than whine among ourselves. JR PS: I applaud all who already are... -----Original Message----- From: Nofziger [mailto:joelnofziger@...] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 1:41 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Mc's " I hope we (the Gov't) have the wisdom to steer the cattle to a better result than their unbridled taste buds. " I hope we (the people) steer the cattle (the gov't) towards a better result. " USDA remains committed to helping America's farmers and ranchers. " http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_1OB?navtype=MA & navid=ABOUT_USD\ A I hope this in light of how poorly the government seems to care about public health as opposed to corporate health. " The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Food Guide Pyramid recommends that meat, poultry, fish, and eggs comprise 14% of the diet, yet 52% of USDA food promotion resources are allocated to these foods. The pyramid recommends 33% of the diet from fruits and vegetables, but they receive 5% of the USDA budget. The meat and dairy industries " outlobby " the fruit and vegetable sectors by orders of magnitude. " http://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/2005/0105/overfeeding.cfm Peace, I'm convinced I'd rather be retarded and happy than an intellectual cynic. - Nofziger Message: 4 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:25:51 -0600 From: " " <crjohnr@...> Subject: RE: Mcs We are surely in some tiny monority of the population who actually evaluate nutrition and energy content of food, considering the consequences of eating it before the fact. This is why things like food labeling, and even that stupid food pyramid are important to apply whatever subtle influence on the general population to stop them harming themselves. It appears to work if just adding trans-fats to labels can drive several food companies to avoid them. Then they advertise that they don't use them, further raising the awareness that transfers may be bad. I hope we (the Gov't) have the wisdom to steer the cattle to a better result than their unbridled taste buds. I'm not so sure about that in the wild, but with the huge distortions caused by abundance and engineering of processed foods, combined with modern technological labor savings, it appears we need to try to help. Or all pay the price to support health care of a sicker and sicker population. JR Yes I own MCD stock, no I don't eat there, but thanks for the report.:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Not to disagree. The economic aspects of paying taxes, growing animals versus crops, the population req't for protein, cost of transportation, and the prices of production drive what we GET to eat as well as taste. Imagine growing everything you must eat on say, 5 acres. If you choose the best nutrition crop, IMO, romaine, you will likely be disappointed in most areas. While a goat can graze almost anywhere. Even your front yard. Realistically, we are importing many food items right now and it's sure to increase, maybe it will get to the point where we can blame the other's gov't? The trick may be to cut down on the amounts of animal protein that people eat. Regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:56 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Mc's I'm not sure what you're saying... While it would be convenient to just disown the actions of "our" government, they only do what "we" allow them to do. I suggest any critical of past gov't actions should get more proactive about making your voice heard. Enough people with the same or similar message will make an impact. Sure government is often manipulated by interest groups, but I consider us a fairly enlightened interest group... Lets do more than whine among ourselves.JRPS: I applaud all who already are...-----Original Message-----From: Nofziger [mailto:joelnofziger@...]Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 1:41 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Mc's"I hope we (the Gov't) have the wisdom to steer the cattle to a better result than their unbridled taste buds."I hope we (the people) steer the cattle (the gov't) towards a better result."USDA remains committed to helping America's farmers and ranchers."http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_1OB?navtype=MA & navid=ABOUT_USDAI hope this in light of how poorly the government seems to care about public health as opposed to corporate health."The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Food Guide Pyramid recommends that meat, poultry, fish, and eggs comprise 14% of the diet, yet 52% of USDA food promotion resources are allocated to these foods. The pyramid recommends 33% of the diet from fruits and vegetables, but they receive 5% of the USDA budget. The meat and dairy industries "outlobby" the fruit and vegetable sectors by orders of magnitude."http://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/2005/0105/overfeeding.cfmPeace, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Es verdad, I have an idea for you. I have a friend whose footballer son at Ga, died in his dorm of 86% plugged arteries. A good " public health " concern is the lack of football college's health monitoring of footballers. Like, an angiogram for all athletes. These are expensive and that's why they don't do them as a routine check of physical fitness. Based on cost - not health. Only a major lawsuit, which takes a major part of their football income, will cause the college officials to change the paradigm. In your setting, seems apropos. If you want to be successful writer, choose an appropriate topic for the group you're writing to. Like what are your ideas for determining scientifically how to measure % CR? We have many open issues vital to anyone wanting to do CR. Regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: " Nofziger " <joelnofziger@...> < > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 2:35 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Mc's > > You bet I am proactive. I am studying to work in public health and I write > column about food politics in my school newspaper and I'd be glad to post > them as I write them. > > - Nofziger > > Message: 19 > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:39:44 -0600 > From: " jwwright " <jwwright@...> > Subject: Re: Re: Mc's > > Not to disagree. The economic aspects of paying taxes, growing animals > versus crops, the > population req't for protein, cost of transportation, and the prices of > production drive what we > GET to eat as well as taste. > Imagine growing everything you must eat on say, 5 acres. If you choose the > best nutrition crop, > IMO, romaine, you will likely be disappointed in most areas. > > While a goat can graze almost anywhere. Even your front yard. > > Realistically, we are importing many food items right now and it's sure to > increase, maybe it > will get to the point where we can blame the other's gov't? The trick may be > to cut down on the > amounts of animal protein that people eat. > > Regards. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:56 PM > Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Mc's > > > I'm not sure what you're saying... > > While it would be convenient to just disown the actions of " our " > government, > they only do what " we " allow them to do. I suggest any critical of past > gov't actions should get more proactive about making your voice heard. > > Enough people with the same or similar message will make an impact. > Sure government is often manipulated by interest groups, but I consider > us a fairly enlightened interest group... > > Lets do more than whine among ourselves. > > JR > > PS: I applaud all who already are... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nofziger [mailto:joelnofziger@...] > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 1:41 PM > > Subject: [ ] Re: Mc's > > > > " I hope we (the Gov't) have the wisdom to steer the cattle to a better > result than their unbridled taste buds. " > > I hope we (the people) steer the cattle (the gov't) towards a better > result. > > " USDA remains committed to helping America's farmers and ranchers. " > > http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_1OB?navtyp e=MA & navid=ABOUT_USDA > > I hope this in light of how poorly the government seems to care about > public > health as opposed to corporate health. > > " The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Food Guide Pyramid recommends that > meat, poultry, fish, and eggs comprise 14% of the diet, yet 52% of USDA > food > promotion resources are allocated to these foods. The pyramid recommends > 33% > of the diet from fruits and vegetables, but they receive 5% of the USDA > budget. The meat and dairy industries " outlobby " the fruit and vegetable > sectors by orders of magnitude. " > http://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/2005/0105/overf eeding.cfm > > Peace, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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