Re: Mc's

[Guest guest]

" I hope we (the Gov't) have the wisdom to steer the cattle to a better

result than their unbridled taste buds. "

I hope we (the people) steer the cattle (the gov't) towards a better result.

" USDA remains committed to helping America's farmers and ranchers. "

http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_1OB?navtype=MA & navid=ABOUT_USD\

A

I hope this in light of how poorly the government seems to care about public

health as opposed to corporate health.

" The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Food Guide Pyramid recommends that

meat, poultry, fish, and eggs comprise 14% of the diet, yet 52% of USDA food

promotion resources are allocated to these foods. The pyramid recommends 33%

of the diet from fruits and vegetables, but they receive 5% of the USDA

budget. The meat and dairy industries " outlobby " the fruit and vegetable

sectors by orders of magnitude. "

http://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/2005/0105/overfeeding.cfm

Peace,

I'm convinced I'd rather be retarded and happy than an intellectual cynic.

- Nofziger

Message: 4

Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:25:51 -0600

From: " " <crjohnr@...>

Subject: RE: Mcs

We are surely in some tiny monority of the population who actually evaluate

nutrition and energy

content of food, considering the

consequences of eating it before the fact.

This is why things like food labeling, and even that stupid food pyramid are

important to apply

whatever subtle influence on the

general population to stop them harming themselves. It appears to work if

just adding trans-fats

to labels can drive several food

companies to avoid them. Then they advertise that they don't use them,

further raising the

awareness that transfers may be bad.

I hope we (the Gov't) have the wisdom to steer the cattle to a better result

than their

unbridled taste buds. I'm not so sure about

that in the wild, but with the huge distortions caused by abundance and

engineering of processed

foods, combined with modern

technological labor savings, it appears we need to try to help. Or all pay

the price to support

health care of a sicker and sicker

population.

JR

Yes I own MCD stock, no I don't eat there, but thanks for the report.:-)

[Guest guest]

I periodically change my personal signature. With it, I was not saying

anything about anyone's intellect.

I'm just saying I think it will also take more than proper nutrional

information labeling and there's no denying the government affects what we

eat through promotion. It promotes too much meat, poultry, fish, and eggs

than is healthy because the USDA serves opposing ideas (eating lots of meat

vs. healthy eating patterns such as CRON) and so I am not so sure I trust

the government to inform people about healthy choices.

You bet I am proactive. I am studying to work in public health and I write

column about food politics in my school newspaper and I'd be glad to post

them as I write them.

Of course people need to take responsibilty for what they're eating. One

cannot blame the government for that. However, not everyone has equal access

to quality food. For example, researchers took information about places to

buy food in Mississippi, North Carolina, land and Minnesota departments

of health and agriculture. They found four times fewer supermarkets in

black neighborhoods than white neighborhoods. They conclude, “Without

access to supermarkets, which offer a wide variety of foods at lower prices,

poor and minority communities may not have equal access to the variety of

healthy food choices available to nonminority and wealthy communities.”

Morland, K., Wing, S., Roux, A. D., Poole, C. (2002). Neighborhood

characteristics associated with the location of food stores and food service

places. American Journal of Preventive Medicine. 22(1), 23-29.

It's a balance. People are responsible for eating good food, but not if they

can't easily buy it and the government tells us to mostly eat meat.

I'm convinced I'd rather be retarded and happy than an intellectual cynic.

- Nofziger

Message: 19

Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:39:44 -0600

From: " jwwright " <jwwright@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Mc's

Not to disagree. The economic aspects of paying taxes, growing animals

versus crops, the

population req't for protein, cost of transportation, and the prices of

production drive what we

GET to eat as well as taste.

Imagine growing everything you must eat on say, 5 acres. If you choose the

best nutrition crop,

IMO, romaine, you will likely be disappointed in most areas.

While a goat can graze almost anywhere. Even your front yard.

Realistically, we are importing many food items right now and it's sure to

increase, maybe it

will get to the point where we can blame the other's gov't? The trick may be

to cut down on the

amounts of animal protein that people eat.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From:

Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:56 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Mc's

I'm not sure what you're saying...

While it would be convenient to just disown the actions of " our "

government,

they only do what " we " allow them to do. I suggest any critical of past

gov't actions should get more proactive about making your voice heard.

Enough people with the same or similar message will make an impact.

Sure government is often manipulated by interest groups, but I consider

us a fairly enlightened interest group...

Lets do more than whine among ourselves.

JR

PS: I applaud all who already are...

-----Original Message-----

From: Nofziger [mailto:joelnofziger@...]

Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 1:41 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Mc's

" I hope we (the Gov't) have the wisdom to steer the cattle to a better

result than their unbridled taste buds. "

I hope we (the people) steer the cattle (the gov't) towards a better

result.

" USDA remains committed to helping America's farmers and ranchers. "

http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_1OB?navtype=MA & navid=ABOUT_USD\

A

I hope this in light of how poorly the government seems to care about

public

health as opposed to corporate health.

" The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Food Guide Pyramid recommends that

meat, poultry, fish, and eggs comprise 14% of the diet, yet 52% of USDA

food

promotion resources are allocated to these foods. The pyramid recommends

33%

of the diet from fruits and vegetables, but they receive 5% of the USDA

budget. The meat and dairy industries " outlobby " the fruit and vegetable

sectors by orders of magnitude. "

http://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/2005/0105/overfeeding.cfm

Peace,