Re: Re: Inflammation and heart disease

[Guest guest]

Hi Judy,

How are you controlling your PA?

In a message dated 1/15/2003 5:21:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, PA@...

writes:

> Hi everyone, It has been almost a yr since I have logged on

> to this

> > site due to the blessing of my PA being under control :-)

> > ...

[Guest guest]

TK: Your study " suggests a hypothesis " only . While it may be true about

viruses (who knows?) - a 5 year old reference isn't very recent.

on 4/27/2005 4:10 PM, tigerpatronus at tigerpatronus@... wrote:

>

>

>

>> Antibiotics don't help prevent heart attacks, show two large new

> studies

>> in The New England Journal of Medicine. The findings deal a blow

> to a

>> popular theory that bacteria found lurking in heart tissue could

> spark

>> inflammation and disease. <snip>

>

> TK:

>

> While it is true that antibiotics did not prevent heart attacks,

> antibiotics only attack bacteria. Viruses, such as HCMV, are also

> thought to be involved in the inflammatory response that can lead to

> MI.

>

> PMID: 11034939 : Muhlestein JB, et al. Circulation. 2000 Oct 17;102

> (16):1917-23. " CMV seropositivity and elevated CRP, especially when

> in combination, are strong, independent predictors of mortality in

> patients with CAD. This suggests an interesting hypothesis that a

> chronic, smoldering infection (CMV) might have the capacity to

> accelerate the atherothrombotic process. "

>

> TK

>

[Guest guest]

I suspect this was most disappointing to large drug companies looking for

another market

to sell some patented drug into.

The lack of a concise proof in this case is probably just as well. There are

other

probably more significant vectors for heart disease to focus on.

(Too much) Inflammation is bad, bacteria (in heart tissue) is probably bad, so

what?

Too much antibiotics is bad, too much water is bad, too much FOOD......

Only 3 percent of the population are following what the Govt thinks is a healthy

lifestyle

and they don't set the bar very high.

It seems they're missing the forest for the trees.

JR

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Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:51 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Inflammation and heart disease

TK: Your study " suggests a hypothesis " only . While it may be true about

viruses (who knows?) - a 5 year old reference isn't very recent.

on 4/27/2005 4:10 PM, tigerpatronus at tigerpatronus@... wrote:

>

>

>

>> Antibiotics don't help prevent heart attacks, show two large new

> studies

>> in The New England Journal of Medicine. The findings deal a blow

> to a

>> popular theory that bacteria found lurking in heart tissue could

> spark

>> inflammation and disease. <snip>

>

> TK:

>

> While it is true that antibiotics did not prevent heart attacks,

> antibiotics only attack bacteria. Viruses, such as HCMV, are also

> thought to be involved in the inflammatory response that can lead to

> MI.

>

> PMID: 11034939 : Muhlestein JB, et al. Circulation. 2000 Oct 17;102

> (16):1917-23. " CMV seropositivity and elevated CRP, especially when

> in combination, are strong, independent predictors of mortality in

> patients with CAD. This suggests an interesting hypothesis that a

> chronic, smoldering infection (CMV) might have the capacity to

> accelerate the atherothrombotic process. "

>

> TK

>