Re: Another New Member Intro

[Guest guest]

Hi, Bridget!

Welcome. Just remember that all vaccinations carry risk. There is no such

thing as a safe vaccination.

I recently spoke with my children's daycare provider about this subject (my

children are now 9 and 11). I was calling to tell her that my daughter had just

been diagnosed with Long Term Chronic Mercury Poisoning from her vaccines (my

daughter is Epileptic, Autistic and Mentally Retarded). We live in Connecticut.

She was telling me that she recently had a visit from the state health

department who wanted to make sure all the kids were up to date on their

vaccinations. The health department has now told her that she cannot accept

children who are not vaccinated. Period. No exemptions allowed.

This sounds illegal to me, but to parents who need daycare, I doubt they would

be willing to wait around to fight the health department (and for that matter,

the State of Connecticut) over the regulations. I know the laws here in CT, but

most parents are ignorant. At least you are educating yourself about this

issue.

In retrospect, I wish I had never vaccinated. I haven't allowed my children to

be vaccinated in over three years. Both of my children have been damaged by

vaccinations in many ways. Once you have done it, you can't undo it. My own

mother still believes that it is necessary to vax. I am very resentful that she

never questioned it as I have had terrible health problems due to the

vaccinations I received. It has really been a lifetime sentence for us, and it

always puzzles me when people tell me they have had no problems. I guess I

always wonder if they know what they are talking about, and if they are just in

denial. Usually if you start questioning people, you start uncovering things

that they hadn't thought about as vaccination related.

another New member intro

Hi I am Bridget, stay at home, homeschooling mom to Steph 9, and Desirae 2.

We have not vacc Desi at all, Steph was done to age 18 months(with the salk vacc

even back then). I hear such conflicting stories, my dr says there is no

mercury in any vacs anymore and really wants me to start Desi. I was not vacc,

my mother and all her siblings were not. I guess you can say we are an anti

vacc family. Just looking for current info. We dont have any homeopathic drs

around here....

Looking now for what exemption I am going to use. They dont offer anything

but medical and religious in my state. So I guess it will be religious.

Was thinking of having Desi in a preschool next year, but am sure none around

here are familiar with an exemption, and they dont even have to allow the child

if there is an exemption, I think. Any experience with these? Private

preschools dont have to follow any laws regarding this from what I have read.

[Guest guest]

>aAt 08:30 PM 10/19/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>> Hi I am Bridget, stay at home, homeschooling mom to Steph 9, and Desirae

2. We have not vacc Desi at all, Steph was done to age 18 months(with the

salk vacc even back then). I hear such conflicting stories, my dr says

there is no mercury in any vacs anymore and really wants me to start Desi.

I was not vacc, my mother and all her siblings were not. I guess you can

say we are an anti vacc family. Just looking for current info. We dont

have any homeopathic drs around here....

>>Looking now for what exemption I am going to use. They dont offer

anything but medical and religious in my state. So I guess it will be

religious.

>>Was thinking of having Desi in a preschool next year, but am sure none

around here are familiar with an exemption, and they dont even have to

allow the child if there is an exemption, I think. Any experience with

these? Private preschools dont have to follow any laws regarding this from

what I have read.

>

Welcome.

Where do you live? What state/town?

Life and living can happen without humans invention of injecting crap into

bodies ;-)

Sheri

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[Guest guest]

great.. it sounds like you are on a good path... enjoy and welcome. This stuff

seems so

obvious, but apparently is obscure to the general public.

JR

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From:

[mailto: ]On Behalf Of wachendorfia

Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:35 PM

Subject: [ ] Another New Member Intro

Hi, everybody--

My name is Liz and I'm new to this group. I've been CRONing for about

two years, but didn't know what it was called or that other people

were doing the same thing. I had spent many lonely hours plugging away

on Medline, trying to design an ideal anti-inflammatory diet in hopoes

it would help with my recent-onset severe asthma. And boy did it! I'm

in complete remission, taking no medications, for the first time in

over 3 years.

[Guest guest]

A couple of questions below, between asterisks:

--- In , " wachendorfia " <leroy23@b...>

wrote:

>

>

> Hi, everybody--

>

> My name is Liz and I'm new to this group. I've been CRONing for

about

> two years, but didn't know what it was called or that other people

> were doing the same thing. I had spent many lonely hours plugging

away

> on Medline, trying to design an ideal anti-inflammatory diet in

hopoes

> it would help with my recent-onset severe asthma. And boy did it!

I'm

> in complete remission, taking no medications, for the first time in

> over 3 years.

***** So is your anti-inflammatory diet mainly fewer calories? Or

is it mainly based on specific food types? If the latter which foods

have you found to be the best? *****

> Then I in my searches accidentally stumbled across some CR web

sites,

> and realized: D'oh! I had done all that work just to reinvent the

> wheel. Anyway, I'm really happy to discover fellow travelers.

>

> I'm especially ecstatic to learn that low white blood cell counts

are

> a normal par for the course thing with CR. For several years, my

> doctor has been watching my WBC count drop below 3 and lower, and

> although the differential count remains normal, she's been

> increasingly concerned and had me worried it might be something like

> Lupus or a lymphoma. Even though I'm healthy as a horse and other

than

> the asthma, never get sick. This is such a relief, and such good

> information.

>

> I currently weigh in at 106 pounds, 5'4 " , 14.6% body fat (I get it

> measured with a Futrex 5000 at the gym every 2 months) I lift

weights

> mainly for the sheer pleasure of getting stronger every day, but in

> the process I serendipitously manged to correct a severe scoliosis

by

> building up the muscles in my back. I also dance, more for the joie

de

> vivre factor than the exercise, and because it's a great way to

> structure an active social life that doesn't revolve around food.

>

> I eat between 1100 and 1600 calories a day, depending if I'm in a

> cutting cycle (losing fat) or bulking cycle (adding muscle--this is

a

> weight lifter's way of life). I'm constantly revovling through ~2-

week

> cycles, with a week or so of maintenance (1300-1400 cals.) in

between.

> I eat at least 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight except

when

> I'm cutting; then I kick it up to 1.5 g/lb in an effort to minimize

> muscle loss (a " protein sparing modified fast " or psmf).

>

> I had noticed that my asthma always got worse during bulking cycles

> and better during cutting cycles, and that's what got me researching

> the effects of diet on inflammation. I've tweaked my ratio of omega-

3s

> to omega-6s and added a rainbow balance of antioxidants and other

> anti-inflammatory foods, and the results on my asthma have been

simply

> astounding to me. But there's still more tweaking to do in search of

> that ultimate goal of " optimal. " I find the science stuff

fascinating,

> and the challenge of it all really fun.

***** And if it isn't confidential, what antioxidants and other

supplements do you find useful? Thanks. *****

>

> Anyway, that's me. I'm enjoying reading all the intelligent

> contributions here and slowly figuring out who's who. I've started a

> fledgling blog called " See Spot CRON " at:

>

> http://seespotcron.blogspot.com/

>

> Cheers,

>

> -Liz

[Guest guest]

>

> A couple of questions below, between asterisks:

>

>

> ***** So is your anti-inflammatory diet mainly fewer calories? Or

> is it mainly based on specific food types? If the latter which foods

> have you found to be the best? *****

>

Hi, Rodney--

My anti-inflammatory diet started out being just lower calories. Then

I noticed that taking fish oil (6 capsules/day) seemed to really help.

I figured that when my calories are lower, my total fat is also lower,

which was affecting the ratio of n-3 to n-6 fatty acids. This seemed

to help dramatically, so I took a closer look at what kinds and

amounts of fat I was eating during maintenance and bulking cycles as

well, and adjusted those so n-3 would always have a favorable ratio to

n-6. Big results, within days.

Encouraged by this, I started using Medline to search for any studies

indicationg that certain foods might have an anti-inflammatory effect,

and then worked them into my diet. For example, I recently started

adding tumeric to my egg white omelettes and tuna-veggie salad (and

dyed my whole kitchen & wardrobe bright yellow in the process ;-). I

figured that most foods that have lots of anti-oxidants probably have

some anti-inflammatory action, so I try to include as many of those as

possible every day.

But I suspect the lower calories and the fatty acid ratios are the

primary factors that have been most effective in breaking the

inflammation cycle in my lungs so they could heal and settle down.

It's amazing how much better I feel now that I can breathe. I have so

much more energy, plus it's REALLY good to not be dependent on daily

AdVair and Albuterol inhalers any more.

>

> ***** And if it isn't confidential, what antioxidants and other

> supplements do you find useful? Thanks. *****

>

Not confidential at all! The only supplements I take right now are a

multivitamin, extra Vitamin C, selenium, and zinc. Plus of course the

fish oil. I'm still in the process of trying to figure out if I need

any others, what amount, etc. I've never used any sports or weight

loss supplements, like creatine or ephedrin or yohimbine. Nor any

illegal androgens or anything like that.

My anti-oxidants all come from food. I'm particularly intrigued by

synergistic effects. For instance, I sprinkle a mixture of sesame

seeds and flax seeds wherever they'll be tasty (cottage cheese,

stir-fry brocolli, oatmeal, etc.) after I read a study showing that

the lignans in sesame seed may enhance the anti-oxidant activity of

vitamin E and increase levels of gamma-tocopherol. I drink a LOT of

green tea, with meals and between meals, mainly because I love it. But

there does seem to be some evidence that it works synergistically with

other foods...I just read something the other day about green tea

enhancing the effects of tumeric.

I'm looking forward to learning more and appreciate any feedback or

suggestions.

Cheers,

-Liz