Re: question on metabolism...

[Guest guest]

I suppose Francesca will chime in with " read the book or files! "

I favor regular moderate exercise including resistance exercise (free

weights for me), aerobics (walking, eliptical trainer, etc. for me),

balance enhancing exercise, and flexibility training (yoga applies to

the latter two items for me).

On 4/21/05, ymmas808 <ymmas808@...> wrote:

>

>

> okay if CR slows the metabolism thereby decreasing free radicals from

oxidation of energy

> (ae less cellular stress/damage) then wouldnt it make sense that exercising is

bad because

> it also increases free radicals?

>

> also, i have read that severe calorie restriction really only can decrease

metabolism by at

> most 30%, so wouldn't it make sense that fasting is the quickest and most

effective way to

> burn fat stores?

>

> excuse my ignorance, but it just doesnt add up to me.

> CR=slowed metabolism=less oxidative stress and free radical damage=longer

lifespan

>

> but

>

> exercise=more oxidation, higher metabolism= better health and longer lifespan?

>

> is there a scientist in the house?

>

> and on that note, what exercise do our fellow cronies incorporate into their

lives or do you

> all just try and lead active lifestyles?

>

> sammy

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't incorporate much of any special exercise. I find that if I exercise very much it tends to create food cravings and a mental justification for overeating. I do stretching exercises, pushups, crunches, and use a heavy dumbell. It doesn't burn that many calories, but helps me feel and look stronger.

I also walk whenever not absolutely necessary to take transportation, but it doesn't amount to much in the way of calorie burning -- maybe 100 a day.

chrisymmas808 <ymmas808@...> wrote:

and on that note, what exercise do our fellow cronies incorporate into their lives or do you all just try and lead active lifestyles?sammy__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Sammy:

This has been discussed extensively here previously. Some exercise

seems to be absolutely necessary - bed-ridden people do not live

long. Beyond that how much do we need?

There are many studies showing cardiac benefit from exercise. But

one wonders whether it adds any further benefit beyond the huge

cardiac benefits of CRON. It also clearly benefits bone strength.

In addition if we are hoping to live to 100+ then when we get there

we are going to need the strength, endurance and flexibility to do

the things we will want to still be able to do. That likely does not

mean a huge amount of exercise. But it does suggest some extra-

curriclar exercise would be beneficial.

People generally seem to agree that a lot of exercise is not

necessary and does produce extra free radicals.

Walford took, by my standards, a huge amount of exercise.

Rodney.

--- In , " ymmas808 " <ymmas808@y...>

wrote:

>

> okay if CR slows the metabolism thereby decreasing free radicals

from oxidation of energy

> (ae less cellular stress/damage) then wouldnt it make sense that

exercising is bad because

> it also increases free radicals?

>

> also, i have read that severe calorie restriction really only can

decrease metabolism by at

> most 30%, so wouldn't it make sense that fasting is the quickest

and most effective way to

> burn fat stores?

>

> excuse my ignorance, but it just doesnt add up to me.

> CR=slowed metabolism=less oxidative stress and free radical

damage=longer lifespan

>

> but

>

> exercise=more oxidation, higher metabolism= better health and

longer lifespan?

>

> is there a scientist in the house?

>

> and on that note, what exercise do our fellow cronies incorporate

into their lives or do you

> all just try and lead active lifestyles?

>

> sammy

[Guest guest]

Here is the file on How much Exercise. I would encourage everyone to read

the files. That's the reason they''re there.

Dr. Walford explains on pp 246-248 of " Beyond the 120 Year Diet " and in

several other places in the book that too much exercise is incompatible with

CRON. However some people find that their quality of life suffers without

lots of exercise.

Here a few posts from the group which summarize the salient points about

exercise:

/message/16770

/message/11196

/message/10234

/message/11742

Francesca

on 4/21/2005 2:24 AM, ymmas808 at ymmas808@... wrote:

>

> okay if CR slows the metabolism thereby decreasing free radicals from

> oxidation of energy

> (ae less cellular stress/damage) then wouldnt it make sense that exercising is

> bad because

> it also increases free radicals?

>

> also, i have read that severe calorie restriction really only can decrease

> metabolism by at

> most 30%, so wouldn't it make sense that fasting is the quickest and most

> effective way to

> burn fat stores?

>

> excuse my ignorance, but it just doesnt add up to me.

> CR=slowed metabolism=less oxidative stress and free radical damage=longer

> lifespan

>

> but

>

> exercise=more oxidation, higher metabolism= better health and longer lifespan?

>

> is there a scientist in the house?

>

> and on that note, what exercise do our fellow cronies incorporate into their

> lives or do you

> all just try and lead active lifestyles?

>

> sammy

>