Re: Trans Fat in Peanut Butter

[Guest guest]

>>>I, like many people, had assumed that any food with a label listing

partially hydrogenated vegeatable oil was a food to avoid, because it

must be high in unhealthy trans fat. However, it appears that the mere

presence of partially hydrogenated oil on a nutrition label is not a

reliable indication that the food is high in trans fat.

Trans fat is a by product of the process of converting a PUFA into a

hydrogenated oil. Hydrogenating a PUFA produces a product that is

chemically/structurally similar to a SFA.

Regardless of the trans fat content, arent you worried about ingesting

hydrogenated oils just because of the hydrogenation process?

I am.

Regards

Jeff

[Guest guest]

For some time I have wondered about the trans fat content of peanut

butter. From the links that were posted, the amount is negligible,

but we have to consider that one of the links was a peanut industry

web site. Many of the zeros in the Nutrition Facts are the result of

using small serving sizes.

I have seen natural peanut butter at Whole Food stores and Trader

Joe's. These peanut butters separate into an oil layer and a

sediment. In a few stores you can even make your own peanut butter by

grinding whole peanuts which also separate when you bring them home.

The peanut butters with hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated fats

stay homogeneous and do not separate into oil and sediment. This

brings up a couple of questions about the manufacturing process. Do

manufacturers drain the good peanut oil to sell it separately and then

add something like Crisco to the sediment to make commercial peanut

butter? Or, do they hydrogenate the separated peanut oil and then add

it back to the sediment?

In either case, the fats that they substitute in the " unnatural "

peanut butters are a lot more solid than the natural peanut butter.

This indicates that the fats are more saturated, plus they contain

trans fats from the partial hydrogenation process, and obviously they

are worse for your diet than the natural peanut butter would be.

IMO,

Tony

>>>

From: " Clyde " <nash.p@c...>

Date: Wed Feb 9, 2005 3:48 pm

Subject: Trans Fat in Peanut Butter

I, like many people, had assumed that any food with a label listing

partially hydrogenated vegeatable oil was a food to avoid, because

it must be high in unhealthy trans fat. However, it appears that

the mere presence of partially hydrogenated oil on a nutrition label

is not a reliable indication that the food is high in trans fat.

.....

>>>

[Guest guest]

I remember when Jiffy came out about 1956 and everyone really liked the non separating feature. In 1978, I showed my 3rd son I could pour off the oil and stir in a stick of oleo to make smooth peanut butter, after he commented on the "crappy" separated Mormon PB.

From then on, we only ate ground roasted peanuts. We don't use peanut butter.

I think it was about 1976, they passed a law PB had to contain at least 15% peanuts. I don't know what PB contains now, but if it's not on the label I don't buy it.

Even in SR17, I can't distinguish PD types because they overlap. Peanuts, OTOH, dry roasted are half the 18:1 and 18:2 of oil roasted or raw. Walnuts look similar to raw peanuts.

If you let them play in your food, they'll play in your food.

Pick a label that says ingredients: peanuts, salt. Else eat the peanuts.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: citpeks

Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 5:34 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Trans Fat in Peanut Butter

For some time I have wondered about the trans fat content of peanutbutter. From the links that were posted, the amount is negligible,but we have to consider that one of the links was a peanut industryweb site. Many of the zeros in the Nutrition Facts are the result ofusing small serving sizes.I have seen natural peanut butter at Whole Food stores and TraderJoe's. These peanut butters separate into an oil layer and asediment. In a few stores you can even make your own peanut butter bygrinding whole peanuts which also separate when you bring them home. The peanut butters with hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated fatsstay homogeneous and do not separate into oil and sediment. Thisbrings up a couple of questions about the manufacturing process. Domanufacturers drain the good peanut oil to sell it separately and thenadd something like Crisco to the sediment to make commercial peanutbutter? Or, do they hydrogenate the separated peanut oil and then addit back to the sediment?In either case, the fats that they substitute in the "unnatural"peanut butters are a lot more solid than the natural peanut butter. This indicates that the fats are more saturated, plus they containtrans fats from the partial hydrogenation process, and obviously theyare worse for your diet than the natural peanut butter would be.IMO,Tony

[Guest guest]

How about: forget peanuts altogether (lots of calories, and,

ESPECIALLY in the peanut butter, aflatoxin) except perhaps as an

occasional treat.

Instead, daily, a couple of brazils (for the selenium), a tablespoon

of sesame seeds (for the gamma-E and lignans), and a tablespoon of

sunflower seeds (for the linoleic)?

Rodney.

--- In , " jwwright " <jwwright@e...>

wrote:

> I remember when Jiffy came out about 1956 and everyone really liked

the non separating feature. In 1978, I showed my 3rd son I could pour

off the oil and stir in a stick of oleo to make smooth peanut butter,

after he commented on the " crappy " separated Mormon PB.

> From then on, we only ate ground roasted peanuts. We don't use

peanut butter.

>

> I think it was about 1976, they passed a law PB had to contain at

least 15% peanuts. I don't know what PB contains now, but if it's not

on the label I don't buy it.

>

> Even in SR17, I can't distinguish PD types because they overlap.

Peanuts, OTOH, dry roasted are half the 18:1 and 18:2 of oil roasted

or raw. Walnuts look similar to raw peanuts.

>

> If you let them play in your food, they'll play in your food.

>

> Pick a label that says ingredients: peanuts, salt. Else eat the

peanuts.

>

>

> Regards.

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: citpeks

>

> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 5:34 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: Trans Fat in Peanut Butter

>

>

>

> For some time I have wondered about the trans fat content of

peanut

> butter. From the links that were posted, the amount is

negligible,

> but we have to consider that one of the links was a peanut

industry

> web site. Many of the zeros in the Nutrition Facts are the

result of

> using small serving sizes.

>

> I have seen natural peanut butter at Whole Food stores and Trader

> Joe's. These peanut butters separate into an oil layer and a

> sediment. In a few stores you can even make your own peanut

butter by

> grinding whole peanuts which also separate when you bring them

home.

>

> The peanut butters with hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated

fats

> stay homogeneous and do not separate into oil and sediment. This

> brings up a couple of questions about the manufacturing process.

Do

> manufacturers drain the good peanut oil to sell it separately and

then

> add something like Crisco to the sediment to make commercial

peanut

> butter? Or, do they hydrogenate the separated peanut oil and

then add

> it back to the sediment?

>

> In either case, the fats that they substitute in the " unnatural "

> peanut butters are a lot more solid than the natural peanut

butter.

> This indicates that the fats are more saturated, plus they contain

> trans fats from the partial hydrogenation process, and obviously

they

> are worse for your diet than the natural peanut butter would be.

>

> IMO,

> Tony

[Guest guest]

>>> Instead, daily, a couple of brazils (for the selenium), a tablespoon of

sesame seeds (for the gamma-E and lignans), and a tablespoon of sunflower seeds

(for the linoleic)?

Or rotate 1/2 - 1 oz of each of them over the course of a week 1-2x with some

almonds!!

Now we are talking!

Jeff

[Guest guest]

Have you looked at the sterols in walnuts, peanuts, corn oil?

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff Novick

Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:30 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Trans Fat in Peanut Butter

>>> Instead, daily, a couple of brazils (for the selenium), a tablespoon of sesame seeds (for the gamma-E and lignans), and a tablespoon of sunflower seeds (for the linoleic)?Or rotate 1/2 - 1 oz of each of them over the course of a week 1-2x with some almonds!!Now we are talking!Jeff